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    New Trump rule would target legal immigrants who get public assistance

    That's SO racist of the President demanding that people who want to come here also find gainful employment instead of having the citizens pay for them. How dare he!

    New Trump rule would target legal immigrants who get public assistance

    U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration unveiled a sweeping rule on Monday that would limit legal immigration by denying visas and permanent residency to hundreds of thousands of people for being too poor.

    The long-anticipated rule, pushed by Trump’s leading aide on immigration Stephen Miller, takes effect Oct. 15 and would reject applicants for temporary or permanent visas for failing to meet income standards or for receiving public assistance such as welfare, food stamps, public housing or Medicaid.

    Immediately after the rule was announced, the National Immigration Law Center (NILC) said it would file a lawsuit to stop it from taking effect. The group’s executive director said the rule was racially motivated.

    The overhaul is part of Trump’s efforts to curb both legal and illegal immigration, an issue he has made a cornerstone of his presidency.

    The 837-page rule could be the most drastic of all the Trump administration’s policies targeting the legal immigration system, experts have said. Advocates for immigrants have criticized the plan as an effort to cut legal immigration without going through Congress to change U.S. law.

    The new rule is derived from the Immigration Act of 1882, which allows the U.S. government to deny a visa to anyone likely to become a “public charge.”



    Most immigrants are ineligible for the major aid programs until they qualify for green cards, which grant legal permanent residence status. However, the new rule announced in the Federal Register by the Department of Homeland Security expands the definition of a public charge and stands to disqualify more people.

    Ken Cuccinelli, the acting director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) said at a White House media briefing announcing the rule that “the law has required foreign nationals to rely on their own capabilities and the resources of their families, sponsors and private organizations in their communities to succeed”

    “However,” Cuccinelli said, “Congress has never defined the term ‘public charge’ in the law and that term hadn’t been clearly defined by regulation. That is what changes today with this rule.”

    The new rule defines public charge as an immigrant who receives one or more designated public benefits for more than 12 months, within any 36-month period, according to a fact sheet from USCIS. The benefits would count in the aggregate, such that a receipt of two benefits in one month would count as two months, for example, the fact sheet said. The definition of public benefits is cash aide including Supplemental Security Income, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), most forms of Medicaid, and a variety of public housing programs, the fact sheet said.

    The regulation also excludes benefits for individuals in the U.S. armed forces, as well as their spouses and children. Cuccinelli said it would have no impact on humanitarian-based immigration programs for refugees and people seeking asylum.

    The rule requires career admission officers to assess at a minimum each applicant’s age, health, family status, assets, resources and financial status, and their education and skills, among other factors, Cuccinelli said at the briefing.

    “The principle driving it is an old American value and that’s self-sufficiency,” Cuccinelli said in a Fox News interview published on Monday before the White House briefing.

    “It will also have the long-term benefit of protecting taxpayers by ensuring people who are immigrating to this country don’t become public burdens, that they can stand on their own two feet, as immigrants in years past have done,” he told Fox.

    Before the rule was published, the Migration Policy Institute, a research organization, estimated more than half of all family-based green card applicants could be denied under the new system. Some 800,000 green cards were granted in 2016.
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    I don't think it's even legal for immigrants to receive any kind of federal assistance.

    For example, my wife is canadian and she got her green card, however she's not able to apply for any kind of welfare/food stamps for 10 years. I have to be financially responsible for her no matter what, for 10 years, it's a part of the deal for her to get a green card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughing Coffin View Post
    I don't think it's even legal for immigrants to receive any kind of federal assistance.

    For example, my wife is canadian and she got her green card, however she's not able to apply for any kind of welfare/food stamps for 10 years. I have to be financially responsible for her no matter what, for 10 years, it's a part of the deal for her to get a green card.
    It isn't legal but it hasn't been enforced for 25 years depending on what demographic you fit into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughing Coffin View Post
    I don't think it's even legal for immigrants to receive any kind of federal assistance.

    For example, my wife is canadian and she got her green card, however she's not able to apply for any kind of welfare/food stamps for 10 years. I have to be financially responsible for her no matter what, for 10 years, it's a part of the deal for her to get a green card.
    Look at the bright side. Your marriage will probably last at least 10 years then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cba fan View Post
    Look at the bright side. Your marriage will probably last at least 10 years then?
    lol, nah she could leave right now and im still responsible financially for 10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughing Coffin View Post
    I don't think it's even legal for immigrants to receive any kind of federal assistance.

    For example, my wife is canadian and she got her green card, however she's not able to apply for any kind of welfare/food stamps for 10 years. I have to be financially responsible for her no matter what, for 10 years, it's a part of the deal for her to get a green card.
    Who does she root for when the US plays Canada in the olympics? 😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc856 View Post
    Who does she root for when the US plays Canada in the olympics? 😎
    She doesn't care about sports at all she hates it lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughing Coffin View Post
    lol, nah she could leave right now and im still responsible financially for 10 years
    Shhhhh... don't tell her that!
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    The NILC is racist. Them suggesting this is racially motivated is to suggest only minorities are poor and using assistance. That’s terrible.

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