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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Pigworth View Post
    It seems to me that you're referring to private healthcare, and then criticising it for not being free or almost free like public healthcare generally is. I don't know much about Switzerland, except to say that they have always marched to a different beat-- they were just about the only European country not involved in the two world wars, are not part of the EU, etc.-- but here in the UK I've never had to pay anything for my healthcare. The same with several other European countries I've lived in.

    I don't understand why you or anyone else would not want universal healthcare coverage paid through taxes.
    That’s all they have in Switzerland is private healthcare, that’s how they limit their cost through a competitive market. Its universal and private. You are REQUIRED to purchase private healthcare that’s what makes it “universal”. And the government “can” help you pay premiums but they make sure you are seeking employment and that’s not the free lunch that people think it is. They pay a less percentage of their GDP on healthcare than the US. Thats the point of this conversation in regards to the deficit. We are paying too much for healthcare.

    Some leftist friends of mine refer to Switzerland being the shinning light of socialism and I wanted to know the scoop over dinner with my new Swiss friends. They told me that people think they are wealthy being from Switzerland. Although they have a high income, they have extemely high living expenses. So as a result many are living paycheck to paycheck like a lot of people are elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    $500 a month??? lolz... I pay $900 a month for me and my 2 kids.

    Did they tell you that $500 a month covers EVERYTHING???? My buddy had a heart attack in Germany a few yrs ago. 3 days later, he walked out of the hospital with a $214 bill.
    They were also younger people. It’s privitized universal healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcas0308 View Post
    That’s all they have in Switzerland is private healthcare, that’s how they limit their cost through a competitive market. Its universal and private. You are REQUIRED to purchase private healthcare that’s what makes it “universal”. And the government “can” help you pay premiums but they make sure you are seeking employment and that’s not the free lunch that people think it is. They pay a less percentage of their GDP on healthcare than the US. Thats the point of this conversation in regards to the deficit. We are paying too much for healthcare.

    Some leftist friends of mine refer to Switzerland being the shinning light of socialism and I wanted to know the scoop over dinner with my new Swiss friends. They told me that people think they are wealthy being from Switzerland. Although they have a high income, they have extemely high living expenses. So as a result many are living paycheck to paycheck like a lot of people are elsewhere.
    And this is exactly where the Health Care act was headed - Universal Private Healthcare with a mandate that everyone purchase healthcare with government assistance for citizens under a certain adjusted gross income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HipKat View Post
    $500 a month??? lolz... I pay $900 a month for me and my 2 kids.

    Did they tell you that $500 a month covers EVERYTHING???? My buddy had a heart attack in Germany a few yrs ago. 3 days later, he walked out of the hospital with a $214 bill.
    ER visits are the only good part of socialized medicine. Usually you won’t see a doctor aside from surgeries and ER visits.

    And your job needs to kick in a little more lol. I pay 600 for a family of 4, not that that’s great either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Byrds View Post
    ER visits are the only good part of socialized medicine. Usually you won’t see a doctor aside from surgeries and ER visits.

    And your job needs to kick in a little more lol. I pay 600 for a family of 4, not that that’s great either
    There's a bit more to the story. I added supplemental and life insurance this year, although those don't add up to a whole lot, and went back to $1000 deductible
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