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    Breaking Down Which DT the Bills should draft in 1st round: Ed Oliver, Houston

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    Sources say that Oliver is not Donald, and that such a comparison is off because Oliver doesn't have nearly the same strength as Donald. Donald has great strength, while Oliver lacks it. Sources say Oliver is a lot lighter than Donald and, as a result, they are different players.

    Oliver is an impactful interior pass-rusher with rare ability to harass the quarterback as an inside rusher. His pass-rush potential is very hard to find, and it should make him a beloved prospect across the scouting community. Oliver is extremely fast at the point off attack. He explodes out of his stance and immediately penetrates into the backfield. On top of his speed and tremendous pad level, Oliver has active hands to slap away blockers' hands. Oliver can bend and has the agility to redirect to the quarterback. Oliver possesses rare explosive speed off the ball and constantly lives in the backfield.
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    Ed Oliver's ability to penetrate with quickness off the snap and utilize his hands to play through contact makes him an ideal fit as a three-technique in a 4-3 alignment. While he lacks size, Oliver plays with tremendous leverage and offers the play strength needed to exchange power on the interior. By year three, Oliver has the upside to become one of the NFL's premier defensive playmakers against the run and pass.

    Pass Rush - Explosiveness off the ball, active hands and rare flexibility leads to consistent interior pressure in the face of the quarterback. Knows how to attack half a man while bending rush angles. Does well to get hands up into throwing lanes if his rush stalls. Converts speed to power well.
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    NFL.com - Lance Zierlein
    Twitched-up ball of explosive fury from the moment he comes out of his stance, but his lack of NFL size and length creates challenges with his NFL projection. Oliver's athletic ability is beyond rare, but his ability to add and maintain mass could be the critical for his future success. He creates early advantages but must convert them into early disruption to prevent NFL size from swallowing him. Scheme fit will be critical with shade nose or three-technique as the obvious considerations. If Oliver's frame is maxed out, he might possess the speed, toughness and instincts to transition into an inside linebacker role.

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    Which one?

    How about none?

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    Oliver could end up being Zo.. that’s not good for a top 10 pick. Gary hasn’t done shit, I’m not on board with that pick either. Clowney was a similar prospect, but had DOMINATED in college.. then you get Gary, awesome physical specimen and has barley been noticed. Nope, pass

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    We’re gonna draft Christian Wilkins from Clemson. He’s viewed as a process guy and happens to play an area of huge need.

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    Do we take a shot at simmons in round 2? Let him come back mid season and grab late round DT as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whorlnut View Post
    We’re gonna draft Christian Wilkins from Clemson. He’s viewed as a process guy and happens to play an area of huge need.
    Christian Wilkins is the safer pick, Ed Oliver has more upside but is very raw and needs to develop pass rush moves.

    IMO Christian Wilkins will be the pick. He can play 3 tech DT at a high level, but is versatile enough to play 1 tech DT or DE .
    L*t is a losser


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    Quote Originally Posted by f8ta1ity54 View Post
    Do we take a shot at simmons in round 2? Let him come back mid season and grab late round DT as well.
    That is anther way of getting a 3 tech DT, a lot riskier way. The only thing against doing this IMO, is that you don't want Jordan Philips was your starting 3 tech DT, Jordan is ok in small amounts as a rotational guy, but forcing him to start will hurt the defenses ability to consistenly get a pass rush up the middle.
    L*t is a losser


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    Quote Originally Posted by junglesouljah View Post
    That is anther way of getting a 3 tech DT, a lot riskier way. The only thing against doing this IMO, is that you don't want Jordan Philips was your starting 3 tech DT, Jordan is ok in small amounts as a rotational guy, but forcing him to start will hurt the defenses ability to consistenly get a pass rush up the middle.
    So they kick Lawson inside on obvious passing downs.

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    I think the Bills need to draft either a DT or a WR in the top 15. Without a DT our defense is going to drop as Kyle Williams is not there any more to keep the line solid. Star is a average DT...next to Kyle he will do better than he is.
    Oliver could be very very good. The ability to shoot the gap quickly is extremely disruptive. Can he put on some muscle though and be able to push through a double team?
    Granted I think he is a bit on the smaller side....Ideally I like Q Williams but I think he will be gone before the Bills can pick. Unless there is a whole bunch of trade ups to aquire QB's. If Miami trades up, Giants take a QB and Jacksonville takes a QB.....that does pose a unique opportunity for the Bills to grab a top 5 player that drops down.

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    The size concern scares me but his combine measurements weren't that bad.

    » 6-foot-1 7/8
    » 287 pounds
    » 31 3/4 arms
    » 9 1/4 hands
    » 77 3/8 wingspan

    Not far off other successful Dt's.

    Michael Bennett 6020 293 33 5/8
    Geno Atkins 6013 293 32
    Mike Daniels 6004 291 32 1/2
    Aaron Donald 6006 285 32 5/8
    Mo Hurst 6012 292 32

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