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    Buffalo Bills should add change-of-pace back for LeSean McCoy

    This is something I've been saying for ages. Regardless of QB, we cant leave him with 1 semi-healthy back against the league's top D and expect him to win. Can we picture the Pats without a healthy back, even though they have a QB capable of being 1 dimensional if he chooses? This lists the guys on the roster. I almost didnt remember Taiwan Jones and his epic/clutch catch an run. I'm curious what you guys think. I felt like a break from the Dennison/Taylor stuff for a bit. :)

    To me it felt criminally negligent not to have 1 decent back to help an injured Shady in that playoff game. In a 1 score game, I think a 2nd back could have made the difference(as could have numerous things). On a related note, is Karlos Williams' career beyond repair somehow for any team? He worked quite well with Shady as a rookie, so I figured I'd ask more out of curiosity than anything.


    The Bills’ unquestioned best offensive player could use some help in order to remain at peak effectiveness
    By Sean C. Murphy Jan 12, 2018, 11:00am EST


    LeSean McCoy has been the most dynamic player on the Buffalo Bills’ offense since he was acquired via trade from the Philadelphia Eagles prior to the 2015 NFL season. His speed, elusiveness, and explosiveness are elite and his overall production makes him a near-lock for the Hall of Fame whenever he decides to retire.

    However, as with all great athletes, Father Time stops for no man, and while Shady still looked as explosive as ever in 2017, he was forced to do some heavy-lifting throughout the season. Without a real backup option at the running back position, the offense was at least somewhat competent with McCoy on the field, and utterly lost whenever he needed a breather.

    As McCoy draws ever-closer to 30 years old, the Bills have to give him some help. With that in mind, our State of the Roster series continues by examining the offensive backfield. As always, financial data comes from Spotrac, while all statistical data and snap counts come from profootballreference.

    LeSean McCoy
    Contract status for 2018: signed; $8.95 million cap hit ($6.35 million cap savings is post-6/1 cut)
    Age: 29 (30 on 7/12/18)
    Playing time: 719 snaps (68.35% of offensive snaps)
    Key statistics: 287 carries, 1,138 yards (4 YPA), 6 TD, 77 Targets, 59 receptions, 448 yards (7.6 YPC), 2 TD, 3 FUM
    McCoy’s workload this season was much greater than one would anticipate for a 29-year old running back. His 287 carries was the third-highest total of his career, and his highest since his last season with the Eagles in 2014. His 77 targets and 59 receptions were both his highest totals since 2010. Of course, it makes sense that he was on the field so often given the lack of talent behind him, but this is not a sustainable pattern either for Shady’s success or Buffalo’s.

    His 4 yards-per-carry average was also the lowest total of his career, but that doesn’t mean that he lost a step in 2017. McCoy looked as agile and quick as ever, which certainly bodes well for his continued success in 2018. It’s hard to imagine Buffalo parting ways with 32% of its overall offensive production, so I anticipate that McCoy will be back with the Bills next season.

    Marcus Murphy
    Contract status for 2018: signed; $630,000 cap hit (no money guaranteed)
    Age: 26 (27 on 10/3/18)
    Playing time: 14 snaps (1.33% of offensive snaps), 2 ST snaps (.46%)
    Key statistics: 7 carries, 41 yards (5.9 YPA), 2 targets, 2 receptions, 7 yards (3.5 YPC), 1 kick return, 18 yards
    Aside from McCoy, the only other true running back under contract for 2018 is Murphy, who wasn’t even added to the active roster until December 26. All of his regular-season playing time came against the Miami Dolphins, and he looked at least to be an adequate running back when he went in the game. While watching, I thought that he would make a good future backup for McCoy.

    The issue with Murphy is that he isn’t as young as you’d think, but with a lack of NFL carries under his belt, there is far less mileage on his soon-to-be 27-year old legs than the usual NFL runner. Keeping him through training camp, though not a given, would make sense, especially since there is no real penalty for cutting him.

    Patrick DiMarco
    Contract status for 2018: signed; $2.05 million cap hit ($1.55 million cap savings if post-6/1 cut)
    Age: 28 (29 on 4/30/18)
    Playing time: 265 snaps (25.19% of offensive snaps), 168 ST snaps (38.44%)
    Key statistics: 2 carries, -2 yards (-1 YPA), 10 targets, 7 receptions, 28 yards (4 YPC)
    The Bills were panned for beginning the free agency period last season by signing two fullbacks, but they each played a healthy number of snaps in 2017. DiMarco served as the lead blocker for McCoy and company, and he performed adequately. $2 million dollars per year is a lot for a player who only appears on one of every four snaps, especially at a non-premium position such as fullback, but he is a strong overall contributor to the squad, especially when factoring in his special teams value.

    Mike Tolbert
    Contract status for 2018: unsigned; UFA
    Age: 32 (33 on 11/23/18)
    Playing time: 203 snaps (19.3% of offensive snaps), 87 ST snaps (19.91%)
    Key statistics: 66 carries, 247 yards (3.7 YPA), 1 TD, 17 targets, 14 receptions, 78 yards (5.6 YPC), 2 fumbles
    Tolbert served as McCoy’s primary backup essentially out of necessity, and he wasn’t exactly efficient in that role. He is a high-quality person with excellent leadership qualities, and his ability to contribute on special teams was enough to give Brandon Beane and Sean McDermott comfort in cutting a young running back (Jonanthan Williams) prior to the start of the regular season last year. An unrestricted free agent, I would be very surprised if Tolbert returns in 2018.

    Taiwan Jones
    Contract status for 2018: unsigned; UFA
    Age: 29 (30 on 7/26/18)
    Playing time: 3 snaps (.29% of offensive snaps), 128 ST snaps (29.29%)
    Key statistics: 2 targets, 1 catch, 11 yards, 2 kick returns, 50 yards
    Jones was one of Buffalo’s main special teams contributors before suffering a broken arm in the Thursday Night affair against the New York Jets. His lone offensive contribution was a catch and run that iced the Bills’ victory against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He will most likely be looking for work elsewhere next year.

    Travaris Cadet
    Contract status for 2018: unsigned; UFA
    Age: 28 (29 on 2/1/2018)
    Playing time: 103 snaps (9.79% of offensive snaps), 41 ST snaps (9.38%)
    Key statistics: 22 carries, 93 yards (4.2 YPA), 16 targets, 13 receptions, 93 yards (7.2 YPC)
    Cadet was a breath of fresh air for the roster when he signed on November 4. He was a solid receiver and a good enough runner, as his skill set mirror that of McCoy, albeit in a less-dynamic manner. He surpassed Tolbert as McCoy’s primary backup for a few weeks, but then suffered a gruesome ankle injury in Week 16 against the New England Patriots. While re-signing him isn’t a necessity, it’s also a move that wouldn’t surprise me, as he showed himself to be a solid fit in the offense over a limited period of time.

    Aaron Green
    Contract status for 2018: signed; $480,000 cap hit on reserve/future contract
    Age: 25 (26 on 10/15/18)
    Playing time: N/A
    Key Statistics: N/A
    Spotrac lists Green as an offensive tackle. (He’s not.) It’s safe to say that he isn’t someone who is expected to make many contributions to the team next season.

    Offseason Outlook
    It’s painfully obvious that the Bills have to add depth behind Shady, whether through the draft or other avenues, in order to ensure that he can remain the effective, dynamic runner he’s been throughout his illustrious career. The Bills just can’t justify giving carries to someone like Tolbert when he is neither efficient enough nor consistent enough at his age to contribute at a high level.

    Both Tolbert and Jones are players who the team can live without next year, and they should move on in order to add youth and explosiveness to the offensive backfield.

    If there were to be a surprise cut here, I don’t think it would be McCoy, but DiMarco, who would be the name we’d hear. I don’t think either player is likely to be released, but I’d go with the latter if you made me choose.

    Adding a young runner who serves as the thunder to McCoy’s lightning would serve two purposes for the Bills—they would accomplish Beane’s stated goal of adding youth to the roster while also giving the offense a different look for which opposing defenses would have to prepare. The team could then choose between Murphy or Cadet as a third option behind McCoy and a late-round rookie to round out the offensive backfield.
    https://www.buffalorumblings.com/201...travaris-cadet
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    How many long-winded threads do we need saying the same thing over and over again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psubills99 View Post
    How many long-winded threads do we need saying the same thing over and over again?
    I agree! I'm not sure why you're bringing up Taylor talk in here though! :) Keep it elsewhere!


    This is a change of pace thread, and a pretty decently written article. I'm curious what direction folks think we'll go. Even if Cadet heals(and he has a cool name, which I find a bonus), he was too similar to Shady, IMO. I'd like to see a guy more similar to the type Seandelevan talks about. I mean, I believe Sean posted that he'd be happy to get rid of Shady in favor of a "bell cow" type back due to Shady's age and injuries, so there are some differing opinions out there....
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightJ View Post

    I agree! I'm not sure why you're bringing up Taylor talk in here though! :) Keep it elsewhere!


    This is a change of pace thread, and a pretty decently written article. I'm curious what direction folks think we'll go. Even if Cadet heals(and he has a cool name, which I find a bonus), he was too similar to Shady, IMO. I'd like to see a guy more similar to the type Seandelevan talks about. I mean, I believe Sean posted that he'd be happy to get rid of Shady in favor of a "bell cow" type back due to Shady's age and injuries, so there are some differing opinions out there....
    You brought up Taylor. Not me. Way to go champ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psubills99 View Post
    You brought up Taylor. Not me. Way to go champ!
    You didnt get the joke. You asked how many threads we needed about the same thing over and over...and that is Tyrod :) I dont recall a bevy of threads addressing a change of pace back. I know it's not as exciting, but I think the article has some merit and is kind of important to the team, lol. I'm curious if Beane will draft any backs named Williams!! I'm trying to ready myself for more undrafted free agents, though. With all of the other holes, RB may not get any draft attention like it did with GMDW, and the 2 nice Williams with late picks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightJ View Post
    You didnt get the joke. You asked how many threads we needed about the same thing over and over...and that is Tyrod :) I dont recall a bevy of threads addressing a change of pace back. I know it's not as exciting, but I think the article has some merit and is kind of important to the team, lol. I'm curious if Beane will draft any backs named Williams!!
    And of course you didn’t get my joke. You’ve mentioned the second running back thing over and over again and now you created a new long winded thread. But whatever man...I don’t expect you to understand the irony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psubills99 View Post
    And of course you didn’t get my joke. You’ve mentioned the second running back thing over and over again and now you created a new long winded thread. But whatever man...I don’t expect you to understand the irony.
    You didnt make a joke, it was a straight complaint. I turned it around on you, but it's not as funny when it has to be explained. :) I get that RBs arent as exciting as Tyrod, but I found the article fairly well written. Right now I'm picturing a team that has 3 backs you can feed the ball to and have some degree of excitement, and not the dread we had when Tolbert was the only back on the field. I'm also picturing having 2 backs on the field at the same time, where the defense doesnt know which one will be getting the ball. We've had that before, and I miss it.

    Even Thurman had Kenneth Davis and others.
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    McCoy is going to be 30 this summer, around 30 is when running backs start to fall off the cliff.

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