Yanks get Abreu, Lidle

[CoachC.]

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[CoachC.]

The New York Yankees are the tentative winners of the Bobby Abreu sweepstakes, ESPN.com and FoxSports.com reported Sunday.

The Yankees worked out a tentative deal for Abreu, ESPN reported. The Yankees will send 18-year-old shortstop C.J. Henry — the franchise's No. 1 pick in 2005 — and 27-year-old reliever Matt Smith to the Phillies for Abreu and pitcher Cory Lidle, ESPN reported.

The Yankees are expected to either pay Abreu a $1 million bonus or pick up his $16 million option for 2008, the New York Daily News reported.

The Red Sox were also in talks with the Phillies about Abreu, but most believe Boston was simply trying to drive up the price for the Yankees, FoxSports.com reported.

Abreu is hitting .277 with eight homers and 65 RBIs in 99 games.


Abreu sounded excited about possibly joining the Yankees on Saturday night. He sat out the Phillies' win over the Marlins but spoke about his situation.

"Of course, when you hear the Yankees, one of the best teams in baseball, and you hear the rumors, it makes you feel good," Abreu said, the Allentown, Pa., Morning Call reported. "They have such great players. They have such a good team. That would not be such a bad situation."

The Yankees are hurting in the outfield, where Gary Sheffield and Hideki Matsui are expected to be out until September with injuries.

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[Merk]

Per ESPN News



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[sukie]

Merged.

[Merk]

I cant believe we gave up M.Smith



CJ Henry I really dont care about. He could be a good player but he is a SS and is stuck behind Jeter



Oh well I dont think the deal improves the Yanks all that much


Lidle sucks and Abreu is nothing more than avg at this point. The short pourch in Right might help him though

[Jayhawk]

yawn, rich get richer

[Pinstripes81]

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Phillies general manager Pat Gillick is expected to move several other players in addition to Abreu, including outfielder Pat Burrell, right-handed starter Jon Lieber and left-handed reliever Arthur Rhodes.

lets bring back Lieber while we're at it

[BigPapi]

I cant believe we gave up M.Smith



CJ Henry I really dont care about. He could be a good player but he is a SS and is stuck behind Jeter



Oh well I dont think the deal improves the Yanks all that much


Lidle sucks and Abreu is nothing more than avg at this point. The short pourch in Right might help him though

Abreu doesn't make any sense to me at all. Lidle will help out but the Abreu thing just didn't strike me as something the Yanks needed.

[Orange Nation]

This trade could work out well for the Yankees or completely blow up in the faces. Abreu was underrated for so long he very quickly become overrated. Despite his production, he's never been a fan favorite as everyone keeps calling him. There's been a noticeable lack of effort on his part the past year or two, he shies away from the media, he refuses to play anywhere in the lineup other than 3. 4, or 5, he's not a good clutch hitter. A lot of that comes from being in a losing clubhouse for so many years, so the change might be just what he needed to revitalize his attitude. On the other side though, the Yankees may find they have their very own Edgar Renteria on their hands.

[cones5108]

Merk you can't call Abreu average at all. Yes if you just look at his average and home run total you may think that. But is OBP is tied for 5th in the league with Jeter at .427. He also has 65 rbis, 20 stolen bases, and 25 doubles. Yes he has a career low .861 OPS but I except that to come up when he gets his power back. With RISP he bats .320 which he will see a lot of with the Yanks. With RISP and 2 outs he bats .324. With men on and 2 outs he bats .353. With just runners on he bats .333. It's with the bases empty were he struggles which shouldn't be a problem on the Yanks, batting a low .224.

[BigPapi]

He's also ranked 109th in the majors with 147 total bases which is also a good measuring stick 38th among outfielders so I would also say he is about average.

[cones5108]

He's also ranked 109th in the majors with 147 total bases which is also a good measuring stick 38th among outfielders so I would also say he is about average.

And his numbers will significantly improve with runners on base in New York.

[njsue]

Who is worse Corey Lidle or Sidney Ponson?

[BigPapi]

"And his numbers will significantly improve with runners on base in New York."

Total bases has nothing to do w/ RISP.

[Merk]

Merk you can't call Abreu average at all. Yes if you just look at his average and home run total you may think that. But is OBP is tied for 5th in the league with Jeter at .427. He also has 65 rbis, 20 stolen bases, and 25 doubles. Yes he has a career low .861 OPS but I except that to come up when he gets his power back. With RISP he bats .320 which he will see a lot of with the Yanks. With RISP and 2 outs he bats .324. With men on and 2 outs he bats .353. With just runners on he bats .333. It's with the bases empty were he struggles which shouldn't be a problem on the Yanks, batting a low .224.

The times I've seen Abreu play I have never really been that impressed w/ him


It just seems like every time the Phills needed a big hit in the 2nd half last year he came up short.


I really dont care all that much about the HR's b/c w/ the short pourch in Right I think those will go up. I'm more worried about the .280 avg right now and the total bases that BP pointed out


I will say though that he did do decent against other AL East teams during inter-league play so that is somewhat encouraging.


I still think he is at this point an Avg to above avg RF right now. I hope he proves me wrong and I think he will be better than the platoon were running right now but I'm not going to get to hyped up about this trade yet untill I see him get at least 15 games under his belt. The Blue Jays series will be a good gauge on him and Lidle

[Merk]

Who is worse Corey Lidle or Sidney Ponson?

at this point Ponson

[cones5108]

"And his numbers will significantly improve with runners on base in New York."

Total bases has nothing to do w/ RISP.

All of his numbers improve with RISP and runners on so yeah it does. He has 17 of his doubles with runners on and the other 8 with runners empty. 7 of his 8 homers are with runners on and his OPS is over 1.000 with runners on. His slugging percentage jumps from .299 to .576.

[njsue]

Corey Lidle Stunk when he was a Seattle Mariner.

[BigPapi]

All of his numbers improve with RISP and runners on so yeah it does. He has 17 of his doubles with runners on and the other 8 with runners empty. 7 of his 8 homers are with runners on and his OPS is over 1.000 with runners on. His slugging percentage jumps from .299 to .576.

So what your saying is that he is going to bat like .750 for the Yanks seeing as someone will be on base 75% of the time he bats. I highly doubt it all it means is that those numbers will level out.

[BigPapi]

Since the all star break here are his numbers.

.192 0 hr 6 rbi obp% .306

[ckg68]

Corey Lidle Stunk when he was a Seattle Mariner.

And when he was a Blue Jay too,let's not forget.

[Sabres244]

Corey Lidle Stunk when he was a Seattle Mariner.

Who doesnt suck when theyre a Mariner besides Ichiro

[Orange Nation]

Who doesnt suck when theyre a Mariner besides Ichiro

arod didnt, but now he does.

[Sabres244]

arod didnt, but now he does.

yea he's so terrible, winning the MVP is just brutal

[Orange Nation]

haha some people on here are so serious

btw what has he done this yr but lead all 3B in errors?