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    Nick Swisher traded to White Sox

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3179423

    One of the stars of Moneyball is gone from Oakland.

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    I wonder if they're going to use Swisher in center field. But if they're planning on using him in LF, where's Carlos Quentin gonna play. I think he'll play CF though. He'll hit 35-40 in a hitter friendly ballpark in front of Thome and Konerko.

    Here's what Kevin Goldstein of BP had to say about the three White Sox prospects two months ago:

    1. Fautino de los Santos, RHP
    DOB: 2/15/86
    Height/Weight: 6-0/205
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Acquired: NDFA, 2005, Dominican Republic
    2007 Stats: 2.40 ERA at Low-A (97.2-49-36-121); 3.65 ERA at High-A (24.2-20-7-32)

    Year In Review: Beginning the year as an obscure Dominican arm in a weak system, de los Santos first blew away the coaching staff in spring training and then was almost literally unhittable in the Sally League, allowing one hit for every two innings pitched.
    The Good: Built like a tree trunk, de los Santos gets tremendous drive. His fastball sits at 91-95 mph, touching 98 at times; it also has late movement, and he commands it very well. His breaking pitch is a power curve with hard late bite, and it's a true out pitch when he’s on. He understands the importance of developing an offspeed pitch, and he improved his changeup over the course of the year.
    The Bad: De los Santos gets into bad habits at times, and can overthrow all of his pitches, costing him life on his fastball, break on his curve, and decreasing the velocity gap between the heat and his changeup. Some worry that his aggressiveness might work against him when facing more advanced hitters, and that he needs to learn how to set up batters and be more aware of the count, as opposed to challenging hitters with every pitch. If his changeup doesn’t continue to improve, some fear he’ll be limited to a relief role.
    Fun Fact: In 18 fifth innings, de los Santos allowed just three hits while striking out 26.
    Perfect World Projection: Star-level starter or closer.
    Timetable: De los Santos has the highest ceiling of any player in the system, but he’s still at least two years away. He’ll likely begin 2008 at High-A, with an expectation than he could be ready for a look at some point in 2009.

    2. Gio Gonzalez, LHP
    DOB: 9/19/85
    Height/Weight: 5-11/185
    Bats/Throws: R/L
    Draft: 1st round, 2004, Monsignor Pace HS (FL)
    2007 Stats: 3.18 ERA at Double-A (150-116-57-185)

    Year In Review: After a one-year sojourn in Philadelphia, Gonzalez returned to the team that drafted him but then dealt in the Freddy Garcia trade. He pitched much better in his second Double-A season, leading the minor leagues in strikeouts.
    The Good: Gonzalez has average velocity (89-91 mph) on his fastball, but he can reach back and touch 93 at times, and it features natural lefty movement, almost looking more like a cutter on occasion. He uses it effectively to get ahead in the count and set up his curveball, which is among the best in the minors. It’s a hard-breaking power pitch that comes in fast, then falls off the table. His changeup is improving, and his control made significant strides from the previous season.
    The Bad: Gonzalez’ smallish frame is a concern for some, but he’s proven to be highly durable so far in his career. Some wonder if he’ll need to pitch backwards more in the majors, and worry that he depends too much on the curve at times. Despite the improvements, his control problems still flare up from time to time.
    Fun Fact: Monsignor Pace’s most famous alum is actress Catherine Keener, although political commentator Bill O’Reilly taught history at the school for a brief time in the early 1970s.
    Perfect World Projection: An above-average left-handed starter.
    Timetable: Gonzalez will begin the year at Triple-A, and should see the big leagues at some point in 2008.

    8. Ryan Sweeney, OF
    DOB: 2/20/85
    Height/Weight: 6-4/215
    Bats/Throws: L/L
    Draft: 2nd round, 2003, Xavier HS (IA)
    2007 Stats: .270/.348/.398 at Triple-A (105 G); .200/.268/.333 at MLB (15 G)

    Year In Review: The former first-round pick spent his second year at Triple-A and went backwards. Many believe it’s time to stop talking about projection with him.
    The Good: Sweeney is big, athletic, and not without some offensive skills. He has a quick, short stroke, gap power, and a nice feel for contact. He works the count well and doesn’t strikeout often. He’s an average runner who can play center field in a pinch, and his arm is among the best in the system.
    The Bad: Always projected to develop power, Sweeney is now stuck as a tweener–-without true center field skills or the power to play everyday in a corner. He’s always struggled against good lefties, and failed to make adjustments in 2007 to address the problem. He played with little energy down the stretch, and did not get a September callup.
    Fun Fact: While at Triple-A Charlotte, Sweeney hit .314 while playing center field, but just .234 when penciled into one of the outfield corners.
    Perfect World Projection: At this point, it’s hard to see Sweeney as more than a fourth outfielder and occasional starter, though he still has some believers among scouts.
    Timetable: While Sweeney has clearly stagnated, it’s hard to see him avoiding a third year at Triple-A without a monster spring training. This next year is absolutely pivotal for him.
    The A's got the White Sox' first, second and eighth-best prospects, with the best-known being the eighth-best, for four guaranteed years of Swisher plus an option year.

    Swisher's contract:

    08:$3.5M, 09:$5.3M, 10:$6.75M, 11:$9M,
    12:$10.25M club option ($1M buyout)
    Look, Swisher is a valuable guy at a very reasonable salary, but he's already a LF-1B who gets put into CF and RF at the cost of several defensive runs allowed. He's really a first baseman, and I understand that the White Sox have a pretty good one. That outfield logjam is for real, and it'll probably lead to Swisher trying his best in CF with mixed results.

    If the Chicago White Sox don't reach the ALDS in 2008, I say that they lose the trade if any of the three prospects pan out

    Other thoughts:

    1) With Chicago in a "Go for it now" mode, Detroit and Cleveland looking very strong, and KC refusing to roll over and give up, the Twins should (and will) trade away Santana. 2008 isn't going to be their year.

    2) Oakland is going to look good in 2009-2010. They've really restocked their system with the Haren trade and this trade.

    3) I'd like to congratulate the California Angels for winning the AL West in 2008.

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    i was surprised by this trade i'd say both teams lose, swisher's numbers will go up but the chisox aren't winning anything.. de los santos is a few years away and the other 2 will need beane luck to do anything in the majors

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    Unreal.

    My favorite A is now gone. Im getting sick of BB, his theories and ways are getting old. Were going to be terrible this year, all these young prospects better pan out, even if they do, as soon as they get good, they'll be gone anyway.

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    White Sox got taken. There team needs starting pitching more than they think they do. Swisher can be good at times but he's about as streaky as the come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanditsRock11 View Post
    Unreal.

    My favorite A is now gone. Im getting sick of BB, his theories and ways are getting old. Were going to be terrible this year, all these young prospects better pan out, even if they do, as soon as they get good, they'll be gone anyway.

    Exactly, BB gets these prospects, they become good and then he trades them away with no title to show for it. At some point hes going to have to keep some of these guys get there owner to open the budget and make a push

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    You can also expect E.Chavez to be moved by the deadline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callaway View Post
    You can also expect E.Chavez to be moved by the deadline
    Good, hes a worthless, overpaid, slob.

    I was hoping he'd be the first to go, the A's have to have someone in their farm system that can play 3rd, for not even close to the cost, and can do the same job from the plate.

    The only thing hes good for still is his glove, but thats not worth keeping him around for.

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    Swisher is overrated I'm not happy with this deal...
    "You just better start sniffin' your own
    rank subjugation jack 'cause it's just you
    against your tattered libido, the bank and
    the mortician, forever man and it wouldn't
    be luck if you could get out of life alive"*

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