View Full Version : Do you believe the US threatened to bomb Pakistan "back to the stone age"?
Meathead
September 22nd, 2006, 10:54:44 AM
and please no depleting
Musharraf, in an interview with CBS News’ magazine show “60 Minutes,” to air on Sunday, said (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14943975/) that after the Sept. 11 attacks, Armitage had told Pakistan’s intelligence director, “’Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the Stone Age.’”
White House spokesman Tony Snow said Richard Armitage, who was deputy secretary of state at the time, had denied warning Musharraf that the United States would bomb his country if it did not cooperate with the U.S. campaign against the Taliban in Afghanistan.
JLB
September 22nd, 2006, 11:01:25 AM
absolutely No Question About It!!!
Green Lantern
September 22nd, 2006, 11:16:21 AM
Hyperbolic rhetoric and eccentricity are the hallmarks of this administration.
rob on the job
September 22nd, 2006, 11:27:10 AM
Actually, the Stone Age would be an advancement for Pakistan.
JLB
September 22nd, 2006, 11:34:38 AM
Actually, the Stone Age would be an advancement for Pakistan.
I get it a helping hand sorta!!:arizona:
deconstruction
September 22nd, 2006, 11:36:21 AM
Based on everything else this administration has done, is there any question?
Green Lantern
September 22nd, 2006, 11:41:25 AM
Actually, the Stone Age would be an advancement for Pakistan.
I think that was the joke for Afghanistan a few years ago. Recycler.
JLB
September 22nd, 2006, 11:47:16 AM
I think that was the joke for Afghanistan a few years ago. Recycler.
Rob is a very thoughtful Re-gifter!! :arizona:
JLB
September 22nd, 2006, 11:52:24 AM
Based on everything else this administration has done, is there any question?
None whatsoever CBS News reported this a couple days ago releasing the contents of the interview.
"BIASED":partysmilies:
voicekiller
September 22nd, 2006, 12:34:29 PM
wouldn't surprise me...this administartion thinks it is above everything and everyone...i just wish someone would remind bush and his chimps that he was hired by the people of this country...he is a power hungry texan who thinks he is god...i can't wait till he is out of office
George W Bush = Worst President in the History of the US
JLB
September 22nd, 2006, 12:37:10 PM
wouldn't surprise me...this administartion thinks it is above everything and everyone...i just wish someone would remind bush and his chimps that he was hired by the people of this country...he is a power hungry texan who thinks he is god...i can't wait till he is out of office
George W Bush = Worst President in the History of the US
You have Shiva's avatar !! Part of it anyway.:arizona:
ticatfan3
September 22nd, 2006, 3:42:09 PM
You have Shiva's avatar !! Part of it anyway.:arizona:I am beginningt to think ,most of these left posters is shiv himself,so it looks like he has following of minions behind him.
Meathead
September 22nd, 2006, 3:47:10 PM
None whatsoever ABC News reported this a couple days ago releasing the contents of the interview. I wonder if their trying to even it up because they helped the RNC so much just lately? Probably thats it just evening the score a little you know to show they are not really partisan or ?
in engrish prease
uppy
September 22nd, 2006, 5:10:13 PM
No..
JLB
September 22nd, 2006, 5:41:13 PM
I am beginningt to think ,most of these left posters is shiv himself,so it looks like he has following of minions behind him.
Thanks thats exactly what I believe.
JLB
September 22nd, 2006, 5:51:01 PM
in engrish prease
CBS News I mistakenly said ABC my bad!!
But the BIASED CHARGE STANDS!!
I wouldn't be surprised if he actually didn't say it at all.
Right now all we have is the network's insinuation lets hear the interview and then say what we think we heard..
Gibby
September 22nd, 2006, 7:55:09 PM
While I hate war, I hate fuchers who are harboring those who helped cause pain and suffering for our civilians. If you are hiding OBL then you are not a friend of America. If Pakistan knows where OBL is and is not handing him over then they are clearly not an ally. We need to be willing to go in there and get the fucher who killed almost three thousand Americans on 9/11. We did it in Iraq, and they had nothing to do with 9/11. Why not go in and get this fucher if he's in Pakistan. No need to bomb the whole country but perhaps in the area where OBL is hiding. If he's alive I want him. I would free Saddam if he could give info pointing to exactly where OBL was.
JLB
September 22nd, 2006, 8:01:07 PM
While I hate war, I hate fuchers who are harboring those who helped cause pain and suffering for our civilians. If you are hiding OBL then you are not a friend of America. If Pakistan knows where OBL is and is not handing him over then they are clearly not an ally. We need to be willing to go in there and get the fucher who killed almost three thousand Americans on 9/11. We did it in Iraq, and they had nothing to do with 9/11. Why not go in and get this fucher if he's in Pakistan. No need to bomb the whole country but perhaps in the area where OBL is hiding. If he's alive I want him. I would free Saddam if he could give info pointing to exactly where OBL was.
But that would never be done because Saddam is being tried by the Iraqi's.
Gibby
September 22nd, 2006, 8:03:15 PM
But that would never be done because Saddam is being tried by the Iraqi's.
well.....
JLB
September 22nd, 2006, 8:06:12 PM
well.....
5300 Gibby your on a roll.
shiva2999
September 22nd, 2006, 8:25:50 PM
No..
+1.
uppy
September 22nd, 2006, 9:36:57 PM
+1.
LMAO
Our philosophys may be different on what is right and wrong,but we do agree
on how the world works.
You are a good Guy Shiva....wrong all the time,but a good man.
Gibby
September 22nd, 2006, 9:46:50 PM
LMAO
Our philosophys may be different on what is right and wrong,but we do agree
on how the world works.
You are a good Guy Shiva....wrong all the time,but a good man.
truer words were never spoken.
shiva2999
September 22nd, 2006, 9:52:48 PM
LMAO
Our philosophys may be different on what is right and wrong,but we do agree
on how the world works.
You are a good Guy Shiva....wrong all the time,but a good man.
Decided to play the flattery card, huh? It won't work.
You know I'm right.
:D
JLB
September 22nd, 2006, 9:55:00 PM
Decided to play the flattery card, huh? It won't work.
You know I'm right.
:D
Hello Sir!!
Enjoy your Beer!!
uppy
September 22nd, 2006, 9:58:27 PM
Decided to play the flattery card, huh? It won't work.
:D
It works with most lefties.
Time for a new tactic I see....lol
BTW,well said Gibby
shiva2999
September 22nd, 2006, 10:02:09 PM
It works with most lefties.
You forget I'm not a lefty.
I only advocate lefty policies for the good of the world.
As for myself, I play by my own rules.
uppy
September 22nd, 2006, 10:12:54 PM
You forget I'm not a lefty.
I do forget....what would you call your philosophy on politics ?
Green Lantern
September 22nd, 2006, 10:16:14 PM
I do forget....what would you call your philosophy on politics ?
Highwayman?
shiva2999
September 22nd, 2006, 10:18:43 PM
I do forget....what would you call your philosophy on politics ?
What exactly do you mean?
uppy
September 22nd, 2006, 10:21:57 PM
What exactly do you mean?
for one ..do you think you are a liberal ?
shiva2999
September 22nd, 2006, 10:22:31 PM
Highwayman?
The Highwayman
By Alfred Noyes
Part One
I
The wind was a torrent of darkness among the gusty trees,
The moon was a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas,
The road was a ribbon of moonlight, over the purple moor,
And the highwayman came riding-
Riding-riding-
The highwayman came riding, up to the old inn-door.
II
He'd a French cocked-hat on his forehead, a bunch of lace at his chin,
A coat of the claret velvet, and breeches of brown doe-skin;
They fitted with never a wrinkle: his boots were up to the thigh!
And he rode with a jewelled twinkle,
His pistol butts a-twinkle,
His rapier hilt a-twinkle, under the jewelled sky.
III
Over the cobbles he clattered and clashed in the dark inn-yard,
And he tapped with his whip on the shutters, but all was locked and barred;
He whistled a tune to the window, and who should be waiting there
But the landlord's black-eyed daughter,
Bess, the landlord's daughter,
Plaiting a dark red love-knot into her long black hair.
IV
And dark in the old inn-yard a stable-wicket creaked
Where Tim the ostler listened; his face was white and peaked;
His eyes were hollows of madness, his hair like mouldy hay,
But he loved the landlord's daughter,
The landlord's red-lipped daughter,
Dumb as a dog he listened, and he heard the robber say-
V
"One kiss, my bonny sweetheart, I'm after a prize to-night,
But I shall be back with the yellow gold before the morning light;
Yet, if they press me sharply, and harry me through the day,
Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."
VI
He rose upright in the stirrups; he scarce could reach her hand,
But she loosened her hair i' the casement! His face burnt like a brand
As the black cascade of perfume came tumbling over his breast;
And he kissed its waves in the moonlight,
(Oh, sweet black waves in the moonlight!)
Then he tugged at his rein in the moonlight, and galloped away to the West.
Part Two
I
He did not come in the dawning; he did not come at noon;
And out o' the tawny sunset, before the rise o' the moon,
When the road was a gipsy's ribbon, looping the purple moor,
A red-coat troop came marching-
Marching-marching-
King George's men came marching, up to the old inn-door.
II
They said no word to the landlord, they drank his ale instead,
But they gagged his daughter and bound her to the foot of her narrow bed;
Two of them knelt at her casement, with muskets at their side!
There was death at every window;
And hell at one dark window;
For Bess could see, through the casement, the road that he would ride.
III
They had tied her up to attention, with many a s******ing jest;
They bound a musket beside her, with the barrel beneath her breast!
"Now keep good watch!" and they kissed her.
She heard the dead man say-
Look for me by moonlight;
Watch for me by moonlight;
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way!
IV
She twisted her hands behind her; but all the knots held good!
She writhed her hands till here fingers were wet with sweat or blood!
They stretched and strained in the darkness, and the hours crawled by like
years,
Till, now, on the stroke of midnight,
Cold, on the stroke of midnight,
The tip of one finger touched it! The trigger at least was hers!
V
The tip of one finger touched it; she strove no more for the rest!
Up, she stood up to attention, with the barrel beneath her breast,
She would not risk their hearing; she would not strive again;
For the road lay bare in the moonlight;
Blank and bare in the moonlight;
And the blood of her veins in the moonlight throbbed to her love's refrain.
VI
Tlot-tlot; tlot-tlot! Had they heard it? The horse-hoofs
ringing clear;
Tlot-tlot, tlot-tlot, in the distance? Were they deaf that they did
not hear?
Down the ribbon of moonlight, over the brow of the hill,
The highwayman came riding,
Riding, riding!
The red-coats looked to their priming! She stood up strait and still!
VII
Tlot-tlot, in the frosty silence! Tlot-tlot, in the echoing night
!
Nearer he came and nearer! Her face was like a light!
Her eyes grew wide for a moment; she drew one last deep breath,
Then her finger moved in the moonlight,
Her musket shattered the moonlight,
Shattered her breast in the moonlight and warned him-with her death.
VIII
He turned; he spurred to the West; he did not know who stood
Bowed, with her head o'er the musket, drenched with her own red blood!
Not till the dawn he heard it, his face grew grey to hear
How Bess, the landlord's daughter,
The landlord's black-eyed daughter,
Had watched for her love in the moonlight, and died in the darkness there.
IX
Back, he spurred like a madman, shrieking a curse to the sky,
With the white road smoking behind him and his rapier brandished high!
Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,
And he lay in his blood on the highway, with a bunch of lace at his throat.
* * * * * *
X
And still of a winter's night, they say, when the wind is in the trees,
When the moon is a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas,
When the road is a ribbon of moonlight over the purple moor,
A highwayman comes riding-
Riding-riding-
A highwayman comes riding, up to the old inn-door.
XI
Over the cobbles he clatters and clangs in the dark inn-yard,
And he taps with his whip on the shutters, but all is locked and barred;
He whistles a tune to the window, and who should be waiting there
But the landlord's black-eyed daughter,
Bess, the landlord's daughter,
Plaiting a dark red love-knot into her long black hair.
deconstruction
September 22nd, 2006, 10:25:23 PM
LMAO
Our philosophys may be different on what is right and wrong,but we do agree
on how the world works.
You are a good Guy Shiva....wrong all the time,but a good man.
Alliance of the unholy!!!
shiva2999
September 22nd, 2006, 10:27:11 PM
for one ..do you think you are a liberal ?
It depends what you mean by liberal.
uppy
September 22nd, 2006, 10:34:24 PM
Highwayman?
Highwayman where bold
Shiva is a Canadian. (this opinion does not apply to ticat)
uppy
September 22nd, 2006, 10:37:45 PM
It depends what you mean by liberal.
Never mind
I was wasting my time asking
shiva2999
September 22nd, 2006, 10:50:27 PM
Never mind
I was wasting my time asking
Not trying to be purposely evasive, but you aren't going to get anywhere trying to lump me in with anyone else.
As I said, I play by my own rules.
Don't forget uppy, I commanded companies of high priced mercenaries for 25 years.
People didn't hire me to tell me what to do, they hired me to tell THEM what to do.
I have no complaints personally. I made my life and I own it.
I just never thought I needed to step on other people to get what I wanted.
coastal
September 22nd, 2006, 11:39:13 PM
I made my life and I own it.
Amen brother.
uppy
September 23rd, 2006, 11:35:42 AM
Alliance of the unholy!!!
LMAO
Don't worry it could never happen
uppy
September 23rd, 2006, 11:44:18 AM
Don't forget uppy, I commanded companies of high priced mercenaries for 25 years.
High priced mercenaries...ummmm
are you talking about your time in hollwood ?
or in Africa's conflicts
JLB
September 23rd, 2006, 1:01:37 PM
I just never thought I needed to step on other people to get what I wanted.
We agree Amen to that.
Meathead
September 25th, 2006, 5:52:34 PM
ouch right to the kings gonads from americas best ally in the middle east
Musharraf spells out allegations of U.S. intimidation after 9/11 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15003128/)
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistan’s president says in his memoir released Monday that he had no choice after the Sept. 11 attacks but to switch from supporting the Taliban to backing the U.S.-led war on terror groups or face an American “onslaught.”
Gen. Pervez Musharraf, in his book “In The Line of Fire,” also criticizes the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, saying it has made the world “more dangerous.”
Unusual in publishing a memoir while still in power, Musharraf says Pakistan, the United States and Saudi Arabia created an extremist “monster” by supporting Islamic groups fighting the Soviet Union’s 1979-89 occupation of Afghanistan.
“We had assisted in the rise of the Taliban after the Soviet Union withdrew from Afghanistan, which was then callously abandoned by the United States,” Musharraf says.
“[After the 9/11 attacks] America was sure to react violently, like a wounded bear,” Musharraf writes. “If the perpetrator turned out to be al-Qaida, then that wounded bear would come charging straight toward us.”
“In what has to be the most undiplomatic statement ever made, Armitage ... told the director general not only that we had to decide whether we were with America or with the terrorists, but that if we chose the terrorists, then we should be prepared to be bombed back to the Stone Age,” Musharraf writes.
shiva2999
September 25th, 2006, 6:13:34 PM
I'd say Musharref's autobiography is about as believable as Dubya's inevitable screed.
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