Roethlisberger will miss season opener

[admarc]

AP (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5931928?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5): PITTSBURGH - Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger didn't practice with his teammates Sunday afternoon.

The Steelers say Roethlisberger will miss Thursday's season opener against Miami after having an emergency appendectomy Sunday.

[Merk]

WTF!?!?!?!




The one GD time I want Ben R. to play and do well he F's it up




Heres to C.Batch having the game of his life Thursday :rockon:

[г]

And there's a face-off in the corner...no, wait it's Roethlisberger

[Bosco]

Well as usual the Dolphins get ALL the breaks !!!

[JLB]

AP (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5931928?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5): PITTSBURGH - Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger didn't practice with his teammates Sunday afternoon.

The Steelers say Roethlisberger will miss Thursday's season opener against Miami after having an emergency appendectomy Sunday.

Unbelieveable the Dolphins it figures.

[gilchristfan]

In other league developments:

Off-duty police officer shoots Chargers LB Foley

Chargers linebacker Steve Foley was shot by an off-duty policeman in front of his suburban home. Coach Marty Schottenheimer said the wounds were not life-threatening.

"All we're worried about is that he's OK," Schottenheimer told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

The early-morning shooting occurred after the officer reported seeing a suspected drunken driver weaving in and out of traffic on an area highway and attempting to pull him over, said sheriff's Lt. Dennis Brugos.

"My understanding is he was shot three times in front of his house by an off-duty officer and that he's in surgery," Foley's agent, David Levine, told The Associated Press.

Paramedics were called to the suburban San Diego neighborhood at 3:47 a.m. and transferred a trauma victim to Sharp Memorial Hospital, according to a fire department dispatcher.

Hospital spokeswoman Kathy Gambito said she did not have any information on a patient named Steve Foley.

"We have confirmed that linebacker Steve Foley was shot early this morning," team spokesman Bill Johnston said in a statement. "We'll try to provide more information as it becomes available. Right now all of our thoughts are with Steve."

Foley has played eight seasons in the NFL, for Cincinnati, Houston and San Diego.

The shooting came eight days before the Chargers were scheduled to open the season at Oakland, and was the second time in four months that Foley has been involved in an incident with police.

Foley was arrested April 21 on charges of resisting arrest after police said he scuffled with officers. Foley also was booked on charges of battery on a police officer and public drunkenness.

The district attorney's office said recently it was not pursuing charges against Foley in that incident.

Tell me that's not messed up.

[MiamiMasterpiece]

Well as usual the Dolphins get ALL the breaks !!!

Oh give it a rest. Its very unfortunate this happened to Big Ben. However things like this do happen unfortunately.

[Carl J. Ironsides]

This is such ******in bullsh-t. We were finally supposed to see Miami squirm after their offseason of hype, and now it's over. I'm so pissed.

[MiamiMasterpiece]

Well i refuse to get my hopes up and think of it as a sure win. There's no such thing in the NFL as a sure win.

[MiamiMasterpiece]

So you guys know Hines Ward is now Questionable.

[Carl J. Ironsides]

So you guys know Hines Ward is now Questionable.

Yep, enjoy your easy Week 1 win over the defending champs. A team with Charlie Batch and Cedrick Wilson or Santonio Holmes as its No. 1 WR is definitely not as good as Buffalo, so that's the Fins first real test. What a joke.

[gilchristfan]

So you guys know Hines Ward is now Questionable.

Cowher's just spotting you players. You don't think Mularkey's play calling really scares him, do you?

[BillsRGreat]

This is such ******in bullsh-t. We were finally supposed to see Miami squirm after their offseason of hype, and now it's over. I'm so pissed.

ok, so let's say the Phins win.... is it only because Big B. isn't playing?? What if the Phins play well?? SO WHAT DUDE??

We will watch them squirm when the team that is supposed to be drafting Brady Quinn next draft beats them twice

[DolphinDevil28]

ok, so let's say the Phins win.... is it only because Big B. isn't playing?? What if the Phins play well?? SO WHAT DUDE??

We will watch them squirm when the team that is supposed to be drafting Brady Quinn next draft beats them twice


Uh huh.

[shulafan]

Well as usual the Dolphins get ALL the breaks !!!

Oh yeah, the Dolphins get all the breaks. All through the 90's we got all the breaks. More recently; '04 we got all the breaks. Hmmmmm. I just don't see it. Actually in '04 you guys got one hell of a break opening day. I think you guys are getting a break for your 1st game this year as well. The Pats are questionable at Wr. Injuries and question marks at LB and RB, as well.

[JLB]

Dolphins still lose the game.
Pitt won't lose at home in their opener.

[DolphinDevil28]

Dolphins still lose the game.

How can you be so positive of this?

[Bosco]

Oh yeah, the Dolphins get all the breaks. All through the 90's we got all the breaks. More recently; '04 we got all the breaks. Hmmmmm. I just don't see it. Actually in '04 you guys got one hell of a break opening day. I think you guys are getting a break for your 1st game this year as well. The Pats are questionable at Wr. Injuries and question marks at LB and RB, as well.

Question marks at LB ?? I though you guys worshipped Jr. Seau ?? Now that he is a Pat your eyes are opened ?

[shulafan]

Question marks at LB ?? I though you guys worshipped Jr. Seau ?? Now that he is a Pat your eyes are opened ?

I don't believe I've ever made any statements to you or anyone else that would lead one to believe that I "worship" Seau. There's little doubt JR will be in the HOF, however today, in 2006 Seau is past his prime and can't stay healthy. That's why he was cut by the Dolphins. Also JR isn't the only LB on the Pats squad; nor is he the only question mark in that group.

[JLB]

How can you be so positive of this?

It could always go the opposite.

I think that Defense will eat Culpepper alive.

Turnovers will be a major factor as in any game.

Troy P. will cause problems.

To be honest it's just a gut feeling.

Not trying to upset any fans of the Dolphins.

I'm personally very happy you guys are here.

How do you see the game going in your minds eye?

[Bosco]

I don't believe I've ever made any statements to you or anyone else that would lead one to believe that I "worship" Seau. There's little doubt JR will be in the HOF, however today, in 2006 Seau is past his prime and can't stay healthy. That's why he was cut by the Dolphins. Also JR isn't the only LB on the Pats squad; nor is he the only question mark in that group.

"You" is a matter of speach meaning Dolphin fans in general.

Most fans, when he was signed by the Fins, thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

But everyone else in the NFL knew he wasn't the Jr of the past. Maybe you also knew.

[DolphinDevil28]

It could always go the opposite.

I think that Defense will eat Culpepper alive.

Turnovers will be a major factor as in any game.

Troy P. will cause problems.

To be honest it's just a gut feeling.

Not trying to upset any fans of the Dolphins.

I'm personally very happy you guys are here.

How do you see the game going in your minds eye?


No, it's cool. I was just really asking how you were so sure that the Steelers would win.

I'm not going to sit here and tell you it will be easy now that Ben is out. You are right, their D is still very good.
However, in my mind, Carolina has the best D in the whole league. Daunte and our offense moved the ball against them very effectively in week 3 of the preseason. I know it's preseason, but it was in the game where both teams did a little game planning.

And he hasn't turned the ball over yet.

I'm more concerned about the environment that we'll be playing in Thursday night.

[pigpen65]

Daunte and our offense moved the ball against them very effectively in week 3 of the preseason.

You're gonna need more than 3 points this week.

[DolphinDevil28]

You're gonna need more than 3 points this week.

What?

[gilchristfan]

What?

work on it.

[DolphinDevil28]

work on it.


Boy you got me there.


Anyway, the "what?" was because if he's implying we only scored 3 points against Carolina's D, that was not indicative of how the offense was moving the ball on them.

[pigpen65]

Anyway, the "what?" was because if he's implying we only scored 3 points against Carolina's D, that was not indicative of how the offense was moving the ball on them.


moving the ball and not scoring points is completely indicative of a Mike Mularkey offense. Get used to it.

[DolphinDevil28]

moving the ball and not scoring points is completely indicative of a Mike Mularkey offense. Get used to it.


Man you guys are full of piss and vinegar when it comes to him, huh? lol.

[Carl J. Ironsides]

moving the ball and not scoring points is completely indicative of a Mike Mularkey offense. Get used to it.

Don't forget about the obligatory "Statue of Liberty" play in which MM orders Culpepper to get down and bark like a dog while Ronnie Brown tucks the ball into his shirt to hide it, then runs into the end zone for a score.

[pigpen65]

Man you guys are full of piss and vinegar when it comes to him, huh? lol.

no, a lot of people aren't. I am though. losing the last game of the season with the playoffs on the line to 2nd and 3rd stringers never sat well with me.

[rufc05]

Oh yeah, the Dolphins get all the breaks. All through the 90's we got all the breaks. More recently; '04 we got all the breaks. Hmmmmm. I just don't see it. Actually in '04 you guys got one hell of a break opening day. I think you guys are getting a break for your 1st game this year as well. The Pats are questionable at Wr. Injuries and question marks at LB and RB, as well.

What kind of a break did we get to start 04. We lost to the Jags on a freak play. No break there.

[DolphinDevil28]

no, a lot of people aren't. I am though. losing the last game of the season with the playoffs on the line to 2nd and 3rd stringers never sat well with me.

That would be more of an indictment of his head coaching abilities rather than his work as an offensive coordinator, no?

[JLB]

No, it's cool. I was just really asking how you were so sure that the Steelers would win.

I'm not going to sit here and tell you it will be easy now that Ben is out. You are right, their D is still very good.
However, in my mind, Carolina has the best D in the whole league. Daunte and our offense moved the ball against them very effectively in week 3 of the preseason. I know it's preseason, but it was in the game where both teams did a little game planning.

And he hasn't turned the ball over yet.

I'm more concerned about the environment that we'll be playing in Thursday night.

Yes very true the environment is also a key.
Even though it was pre-season it's significant if you moved the ball against their first defense.With it being game three makes it even more significant.
That's as you know everybodies dress rehearsal.

[pigpen65]

That would be more of an indictment of his head coaching abilities rather than his work as an offensive coordinator, no?


well, IMO he never really ventured much from coordinating the offense, even as a HC. the DC was a leftover from the previous regime and already had a solid system in place (along with Lebeau who was the assistand HC.) and it was pretty much public knowledge that MM was calling all the shots on offense, including the playcalling last year. The Bills offense had MM's stamp all over it. Jerky playcalling, poor execution, poor gameplanning, and low redzone numbers. Give it a couple games, you'll start to see it yourself. i would say we've already seen it this year, but the "it's only preseason" excuse is a little too much to argue over for the moment.

And yes, the Defense had it's fair share of blame in that loss to Pitt two years ago, but it's just human nature to direct the blame towards the guy at the top. But, the Bills also went the first 4 games into that season without an offensive TD. It probably should have never come down to that game.

[gilchristfan]

Boy you got me there.


Anyway, the "what?" was because if he's implying we only scored 3 points against Carolina's D, that was not indicative of how the offense was moving the ball on them.

moving the ball and not scoring points is completely indicative of a Mike Mularkey offense. Get used to it.

Well, pigpen tried to warn you.

[shulafan]

What kind of a break did we get to start 04. We lost to the Jags on a freak play. No break there.

Sorry, I got my years mixed up. The break (and opening day game) I was referring to was actually in '03. NE cut Milloy right before the beginning of the season, you guys picked him up and subsequently killed the Pats 31-0.

[rufc05]

Sorry, I got my years mixed up. The break (and opening day game) I was referring to was actually in '03. NE cut Milloy right before the beginning of the season, you guys picked him up and subsequently killed the Pats 31-0.

No offense, but I don't see how a break we got 3 years ago in a year we went 6-10 is relevant to the break you guys have received this year when we are trying to beat you out for a playoff spot.

[DolphinDevil28]

well, IMO he never really ventured much from coordinating the offense, even as a HC. the DC was a leftover from the previous regime and already had a solid system in place (along with Lebeau who was the assistand HC.) and it was pretty much public knowledge that MM was calling all the shots on offense, including the playcalling last year. The Bills offense had MM's stamp all over it. Jerky playcalling, poor execution, poor gameplanning, and low redzone numbers. Give it a couple games, you'll start to see it yourself. i would say we've already seen it this year, but the "it's only preseason" excuse is a little too much to argue over for the moment.

And yes, the Defense had it's fair share of blame in that loss to Pitt two years ago, but it's just human nature to direct the blame towards the guy at the top. But, the Bills also went the first 4 games into that season without an offensive TD. It probably should have never come down to that game.


Well, like I said, he's in a completely different situation now and he doesn't have to worry about running the whole team. The Fins have a plethora of coaches, so he can focus on play calling.

I don't know, we'll see. I just always give someone a shot before I rip anything.

[shulafan]

No offense, but I don't see how a break we got 3 years ago in a year we went 6-10 is relevant to the break you guys have received this year when we are trying to beat you out for a playoff spot.

It was all in response to a statement made by another poster "as usual the Dolphins get ALL the breaks".
Now you know of course we're going to be guilty of hijacking this thread. Anyway, I guess I was just trying to illustrate that even though we got a break this time there have been other times when the breaks went other ways. Also in another post in this thread I pointed out that you guys are in fact getting some breaks your way with your game against NE. IMO they have some issues at WR, LB and RB. Then of course I was rebuked for that by another poster.

[zanthrax54]

the steelers can't win without big ben PERIOD.

[westphal]

the steelers can't win without big ben PERIOD.
I doubt that. A big reason why Big Ben has seen so much success early in his career is because he inherited a very good football team. I think the Steelers can make any mediocre quarterback look good. If the Steelers play solid defense, the QB will have to only manage the game and not make mistakes. They will focus on the run as always. Charlie Batch did o.k. (not great, mind you) starting for a bad Detriot team. Batch is a veteran, and I think he is up to handling this situation. What I'm saying is that I don't think that just because Roethlisberger is out means that Miami wins the game...but it does give Miami an edge. Maybe this is karma for all you bastards that made fun of Roethlisberger after his accident.

[pigpen65]

the steelers can't win without big ben PERIOD.

If the fish score a TD, it will be on special teams or a fumble / int return.

[Sparx]

charlie batch is gonna get RAPED!

[MiamiMasterpiece]

Question marks at LB ?? I though you guys worshipped Jr. Seau ?? Now that he is a Pat your eyes are opened ?

I never really liked him. All he was to me was another body but with knowlege of the game.

[MiamiMasterpiece]

Yep, enjoy your easy Week 1 win over the defending champs. A team with Charlie Batch and Cedrick Wilson or Santonio Holmes as its No. 1 WR is definitely not as good as Buffalo, so that's the Fins first real test. What a joke.

You guys are such babies. You act like injuries never occur in the NFL and if they do im sure Buffalo has never played a team with an injury.........

[westphal]

You guys are such babies. You act like injuries never occur in the NFL and if they do im sure Buffalo has never played a team with an injury.........
Look here, Buffalo has been getting the short end of the stick for a while now. I can relate to what happened to the Seahawks in the Superbowl because I've seen that happen to Buffalo teams time and time again. Call me a crybaby, and I'll skull you - because it is a fact..Buffalo Sabres game 6 in the Stanley Cup playoffs...triple over-time against Dallas...the refs GIVE the damn game to Dallas on one of the most imfamous bad calls of all time. IN THE CREASE. This is not even disputed by anybody. Don't even get me started. That is but one example.

[BillsRGreat]

well, IMO he never really ventured much from coordinating the offense, even as a HC. the DC was a leftover from the previous regime and already had a solid system in place (along with Lebeau who was the assistand HC.) and it was pretty much public knowledge that MM was calling all the shots on offense, including the playcalling last year. The Bills offense had MM's stamp all over it. Jerky playcalling, poor execution, poor gameplanning, and low redzone numbers. Give it a couple games, you'll start to see it yourself. i would say we've already seen it this year, but the "it's only preseason" excuse is a little too much to argue over for the moment.

And yes, the Defense had it's fair share of blame in that loss to Pitt two years ago, but it's just human nature to direct the blame towards the guy at the top. But, the Bills also went the first 4 games into that season without an offensive TD. It probably should have never come down to that game.

I think this may be a big reason why we went from the #2 overall defense. to #29. Two players don't make this much of an impact... i could see #2 to #15 with 2 players gone... but with a HC "knowing" offense (not that well it also turned out) your defense will suffer the burn

[njsue]

Willie Parker will win it for the Steelers.

[Victor7]

The dolphins are gonna win this game now. If there's ever been a freeloader who got rich for being a very very very bad quarteback in the NFL thats Charlie Batch.

Lucky break for the fish !! :(

[MiamiMasterpiece]

You guys really think Big Ben is a goddess huh?

[FinNasty]

It could always go the opposite.

I think that Defense will eat Culpepper alive.

Turnovers will be a major factor as in any game.

Troy P. will cause problems.

To be honest it's just a gut feeling.

Not trying to upset any fans of the Dolphins.

I'm personally very happy you guys are here.

How do you see the game going in your minds eye?

Well, I think it will be a true test for our new offense. They still are 100% on defense, which is what won them a Super Bowl. We have alot of talent on offense, but it is all on paper right now. We need to see it in action for real.

I think we will be ok when they have the ball though. The questionmarks on our defense are in the secondary... and with Big Ben and possibly Ward out, we should be ok. They will be forced to pound the rock, and our front 7 is very very good.

Oh, and glad to be here... ;)

[Napalm]

Bills play NE week one. Not Pittsburgh. Why is this thread here?

[MiamiMasterpiece]

Bills play NE week one. Not Pittsburgh. Why is this thread here?

Because some people have nothing better to do then complain.

[B-loCrew]

Bens absence will make no difference in the outcome of this game. Ben is not a great QB, he is a game manager and Batch can manage this game. The Steelers will win with their superior run game and great defense. The steelers linebackers are going to knock DC out of the game and Willie Parker will have over 100yds in a Steelers 24-13 win.

[GoSabres3]

I still think the Dolphins lose against a great defense like Pittsburgh, They still have Willy Parker too whos gonna be great this year. Those fans are gonna be going crazy down their in Pitt for their defending champs.

[westphal]

There is a poll on nfl.com that asks "With Ben Roethlisberger out, will the Steelers or Dolphins win the regular season opener?" At the time I'm writing this, 51,514 have voted (I voted for the Steelers).

Here are the results:

Dolphins 71%
Steelers 29%

Looks like the majority side with the Dolphins.

[pigpen65]

I think this may be a big reason why we went from the #2 overall defense. to #29. Two players don't make this much of an impact... i could see #2 to #15 with 2 players gone... but with a HC "knowing" offense (not that well it also turned out) your defense will suffer the burn

when Lebeau left, Gray was exposed. I think back at how maddening the 3rd and longs that were consistently converted. Every 3rd down Milloy and a LB would blitz. Every 3rd down, the offense knew it was coming. Like 75% of the 3rd and longs were converted. And Gray never changed the stratedgy.

[FinNasty]

There is a poll on nfl.com that asks "With Ben Roethlisberger out, will the Steelers or Dolphins win the regular season opener?" At the time I'm writing this, 51,514 have voted (I voted for the Steelers).

Here are the results:

Dolphins 71%
Steelers 29%

Looks like the majority side with the Dolphins.

Its funny that the majority of the people on this board think we will lose... yet the majority of all other fans think we will win.

[JLB]

Its funny that the majority of the people on this board think we will lose... yet the majority of all other fans think we will win.

Who really knows we all just gotta wait until the bullets start flying for real.
You guys got a great chance. I just think your QB will have some trouble with Troy and the crew thats all.

[FinNasty]

Who really knows we all just gotta wait until the bullets start flying for real.
You guys got a great chance. I just think your QB will have some trouble with Troy and the crew thats all.

Their secondary doesnt worry me too much... just TroyP. The main thing that we will need to do against their defense is all on the offensive line. We need to open holes for Ronnie, and give Pepper time against their pass rush. Their CBs dont scare anyone... but its the pass rush that makes them serviceable...

[JLB]

Their secondary doesnt worry me too much... just TroyP. The main thing that we will need to do against their defense is all on the offensive line. We need to open holes for Ronnie, and give Pepper time against their pass rush. Their CBs dont scare anyone... but its the pass rush that makes them serviceable...

You know your team much better than I.
Troy is just such an animal when I think of Pitt I think of him not Big Ben.
It's getting close for you guys you gotta be getting pretty fired up right about now.

[njsue]

The steelers will beat miami with there ground game. Willie Parker is a pretty good RB.

[FinNasty]

The steelers will beat miami with there ground game. Willie Parker is a pretty good RB.

Eh, he is good, but nothing special... and our front 7 is stacked. I aint worried about their ground game... or really anyones...

I worry about teams passing attacks... because that is how to beat Miami this year.

[westphal]

Its funny that the majority of the people on this board think we will lose... yet the majority of all other fans think we will win.
What did you expect? Kinda tells you something, doesn't it?

It tells you that Bills fans are smart.

[FinNasty]

What did you expect? Kinda tells you something, doesn't it?

It tells you that Bills fans are smart.

lol

[Sparx]

If the fins D make charlie batch look good tomorrow, i will have to drop trow and shit on my living room floor, and stare at it for the next 7 days.

[BillsRGreat]

b-bump

[BillsRGreat]

If the fins D make charlie batch look good tomorrow, i will have to drop trow and shit on my living room floor, and stare at it for the next 7 days.

hope you have good dry cleaining

[pigpen65]

Its funny that the majority of the people on this board think we will lose... yet the majority of all other fans think we will win.


Stick around and you might learn something.