Do kids, 10, belong in court?

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According to Canadian Conservative nut-job, Vic Toews, they do. Funny the author doesn't mention the successful restorative justice programs we have here, where youth are steered AWAY from the courts to be dealt with by the community in exactly the situations he thinks the (adversarial) court system will somehow help these kids.

Aug. 15, 2006. 06:56 AM
TRACEY TYLER
LEGAL AFFAIRS REPORTER

ST. JOHN'S - Justice Minister Vic Toews says the Youth Criminal Justice Act may need to be changed so children as young as 10 and 11 who "run afoul of the law" can be brought to court.

Speaking to members of the Canadian Bar Association at their annual meeting here yesterday, Toews said he is considering amending the legislation to give judges authority over alleged young offenders at a much earlier stage than allowed currently. The act now applies to youths between 12 and 18.

Toews said he is considering that possibility not because he thinks someone that young should be jailed, but because he thinks youth courts should have the power to intervene in the lives of younger children who have fallen "under the influence of criminal elements."

A judge could be given the power to "assist" a child by ordering treatment or some other "disposition," Toews said, adding that his main interest is treatment, not imprisonment.

Courts should be able to step in before a child has established a pattern of behaviour that could have harmful, long-term consequences, he said.

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[mighty peace warrior]

dumb idea..bring the parents to court if someone needs to go.

[nehemiah]

welcome to the right-wing revolution, canada.

have fun.

:popcorn:

[mighty peace warrior]

welcome to the right-wing revolution, canada.

have fun.

:popcorn:

you are so oppressed, i dont know how you even manage to breathe most days

[nehemiah]

you are so oppressed, i dont know how you even manage to breathe most days:dunno:

i can eat popcorn and watch canada go down the tubes, though.

:popcorn:

[35Pete]

you are so oppressed, i dont know how you even manage to breathe most days

:rofl:

[rob on the job]

Well, since they're Canadian kids, yeah, sure -- 10 year-olds belong in court.

[dasaybz]

A 10 year old kid doesn't even know what a dirty sanchez is. They have barely lived, how can we just toss them into the fire like that?

[NoCtUrNaL]

Do kids, 10, belong in court?

No...kids should be alllowed to commit whatever crime they want without need for consideration of punishment.

[35Pete]

A 10 year old kid doesn't even know what a dirty sanchez is. They have barely lived, how can we just toss them into the fire like that?

Don't believe what D3 is insinuating. Read the article. He didn't. No one is advocating tossing kids in the clink at the age of 10.

For him to call him a nutjob that is the only conclusion that I can reach.

[NoCtUrNaL]

Well, since they're Canadian kids, yeah, sure -- 10 year-olds belong in court.


Actually, I think the exchange rate is 0.889679 so a 10 year old Canadian kid is worth 9.36 American.

[rob on the job]

...kids should be alllowed to commit whatever crime they want without need for consideration of punishment.


God forbid we should traumatize them by making them accountable for their actions.

[35Pete]

God forbid we should traumatize them by making them accountable for their actions.

We need to understand them and get them into therapy while patting them on the head and telling them that "they are good at heart".

BS. If it is a chronic offender at age 10 then drag his ass in front of a judge, scare the living crap out of him (tough love) and then send his butt to therapy.

Man. At the age of 10 I would have been scared shitless being in a court. "Man, this is serious!" I would have thought.

[Dontdieman]

Before they know it these canadian kids will create their own sketch comedy show and start dressing in drag....

Making me laugh uncontrollably.

[rob on the job]

... At the age of 10 I would have been scared shitless being in a court. "Man, this is serious!" I would have thought.

JUDGE: "Young man, I'm releasing you into the custody of your father, Pete 35."

http://www.yaysports.com/mlb/scared%20black%20kid%20(3).jpg

[ticatfan3]

We need to understand them and get them into therapy while patting them on the head and telling them that "they are good at heart".

BS. If it is a chronic offender at age 10 then drag his ass in front of a judge, scare the living crap out of him (tough love) and then send his butt to therapy.

Man. At the age of 10 I would have been scared shitless being in a court. "Man, this is serious!" I would have thought.That is what they are trying to do, the kids they say are so **** up by 12 it is almost to late to do anything about it. So they hope to get to the kids earlier before it is to late. It is another liberal mess we have to clean up. Kids know the law and know that under a certain age they can get away with murder ,well you still get away with murdew here, but we are trying to change that. The libs have fopught eveything that trys to help out wayward kids. The liberal way of just letting them go wild till they grow out of it does not work.And I wish we could go afterr the parents of these kids.

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The courts are not our social services.
Only Conservative boneheads and the dummies that follow them make that association.

BTW, Ticat, how's that family of yours coming along ?
Have you managed to roofie the chick from Maryland, yet ?

[nehemiah]

The liberal way of just letting them go wild till they grow out of it does not work.:rolleyes:

[shiva2999]

Everyone should stop worrying.

No one anticipates throwing white kids in jail, just black kids.

It's only that ol' debbil political correctness that forces them to word it this way.

White 10 year olds only wanna play with dolls or toss the ball around whereas black kids are already drug pushers and junior gang members by this age.

[г]

I like this quote from the article;

A child wouldn't necessarily have to be charged criminally in order to be brought to court, Toews added.

That oughta draw the nazis here like flies to shit.

[dasaybz]

Everyone should stop worrying.

No one anticipates throwing white kids in jail, just black kids.

It's only that ol' debbil political correctness that forces them to word it this way.

White 10 year olds only wanna play with dolls or toss the ball around whereas black kids are already drug pushers and junior gang members by this age.

damn dude ...

[JLB]

Everyone should stop worrying.

No one anticipates throwing white kids in jail, just black kids.

It's only that ol' debbil political correctness that forces them to word it this way.

White 10 year olds only wanna play with dolls or toss the ball around whereas black kids are already drug pushers and junior gang members by this age.
How many 10 year old black kids do you know in jail right now?

[rob on the job]

How many 10 year old black kids do you know in jail right now?

He saw some in a movie.

[shiva2999]

How many 10 year old black kids do you know in jail right now?

That's the point.

There aren't any but there should be.

[ticatfan3]

''restorative justice programs '' This should be good,please explain?

[JLB]

That's the point.

There aren't any but there should be.
Why are you against black children?

[Green Lantern]

Do kids, 10, belong in court?



The only time 10 year-olds should be in court is during a messy divorce, when the judge needs to ask them which parent they want to go and live with.

[Green Lantern]

Actually, I think the exchange rate is 0.889679 so a 10 year old Canadian kid is worth 9.36 American.

Is that the exchange rate now? Jeez, our economy has TANKED.

[shiva2999]

Why are you against black children?

They're all potential criminals if they aren't criminals already.

Same goes for Muslim kids. Where do you think jihadists come from?

[ticatfan3]

The only time 10 year-olds should be in court is during a messy divorce, when the judge needs to ask them which parent they want to go and live with.That is the thing,by the time they do,it is to late to help most out. It is not that they want to throw them in adult jail,like the libs are now trying to say . But get them in front of a judge early to try and help them out.

[JLB]

They're all potential criminals if they aren't criminals already.

Same goes for Muslim kids. Where do you think jihadists come from?

Anti Black Children and Muslim Children you have issues.
Good Luck with all that.

[shiva2999]

Anti Black Children and Muslim Children you have issues.
Good Luck with all that.

Don't get me started on toddlers.

The worst of the worst.

They need to be sent to Baby Gitmo.

[Green Lantern]

That is the thing,by the time they do,it is to late to help most out. It is not that they want to throw them in adult jail,like the libs are now trying to say . But get them in front of a judge early to try and help them out.

First, I was just trying to be funny about the trauma of court appearances.

Second, The only ones I was afraid of as a child were my parents. If I ended up in court or in the back of a cop car, or even in the principle's office. What most frightened me was that they would call my parents. If your parents can't discipline you, I don't know what else could be done.

[JLB]

Don't get me started on toddlers.

The worst of the worst.

They need to be sent to Baby Gitmo.
Ok very well you hate all kids.:guy:
Very Funny be good Shiva.
Please don't ask me or what?
Unless you really want to.:bigasskiss:

[shiva2999]

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[shiva2999]

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[shiva2999]

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[shiva2999]

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[JLB]

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/baby_terrorist2.jpg
Where did you find that old picture I thought it was lost.

[shiva2999]

Google Baby terrorists

[35Pete]

I like this quote from the article;



That oughta draw the nazis here like flies to shit.

Jesus Christ. They are children!!!! By your logic parent cannot discipline their children lest they violate the poor 10 year olds civil rights.

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Thanks for proving my point.

[35Pete]

Thanks for proving my point.
What's that. That there are twelve sticks in a typical box of Crayola Crayons?

By the way. Ned Beasely and Wolfgang Flugenhorn want to interview you in an exclusive thread on TBN.

Are you game?

[г]

Nope, but I'm glad that you seem to be such an expert on Crayons.

Tell your imaginary friends to blow me.