Terrorism is winning.....

[TRIPLE P]

Isn't the entire goal of terrorism to change our way of life, and to make the threat of harm something we constantly think about?

This recent BS with the liquids on airlines is just another "W" for terrorism.....just another example of perceived threats causing an overreaction....

Lipstick, baby formula, shampoo.....****ing pathetic...... you guys are pussies.

[ChesapeakeBills]

You are right. Asymmetric warfare. Every time they show a guy with a turban, people freak out.

[г]

And it costs them what, $4.99 to send all you all running like skeered rabbits ?

Apparently all they needed was a bottle of Gatorade and a story, LOL

[rob on the job]

You are right. Asymmetric warfare. Every time they show a guy with a turban, people freak out.

I know what you mean:

http://thumbs.photo.net/photo/394618-sm.jpg

[Lucidvizion]

Recent events and casual knowledge of modern history lead me to believe terrorism(in the broad sense) is the only way to win wars.

[njsue]

We as American's have to endure different obstacles every day. This is all apart of life as a human being.. Learning how to over come these obstacles which Americans do. American's will never stop living there lives. The day we stop over coming obstacles is the day Terroists will win. This won't happen ever.

Telling people they cant bring on a bottle of water or lipstick. Is so minor. So what. Pack the lipstick in the check in bag. Ask the stewardess for a cup of water. Its free.

[notacon]

Terrorism is not winning…the fearmongers are. Conservatives and especially the GOP has become the THE FEAR PARTY.

Here is a good explanation on the distorted perspective…


Perspective: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Get a Grip (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/14/65537/7743)


I know there are millions of brave, decent conservatives. My apologies to those folks for the following. But good grief, when did the Republican Party become infested with what sound like so many loud, whining cowardly pundits? One second Reagan is up there standing toe-to-toe with the Rooskis, negotiating cool as a cucumber with 20,000 nukes pointed at him, and the next thing I know, the likes of Limbaugh or the crew at Powerwhine and Freeperland, are all shrieking like a class full of tweaked-out, neurotic fifth-graders having a panic attack every time OBL pops up in a grainy video with a rusty AK in the background. What the hell happened to the GOP I once knew?

Death and injury are every bit as tragic as they are inevitable for human beings. Understandably, we worry about both, we all cry and mourn when either strike, especially with ourselves or those we love playing the starring role. And I have no desire to down play the loss that anyone feels when someone they love is struck down, be it by terrorism or leukemia. But ...some perspective maybe?

Heart disease and cancer will claim about 1.5 million American lives each and every year. As far as accidental deaths (~100,000/year), motor vehicle accidents far and away lead the pack (+40,000/year), with accidental poisoning and falls in place and show1. You can play with those stats all kinds of ways. But the bottom line is that over the course of a civilian lifetime, the odds of falling victim to Al Qaeda rank somewhere between falling off a ladder to your death and being struck by lightning inside your home.

How does Al Qaeda compare with past threats?

…snip…

Here's a message for both our homegrown Neoconservative, bloggy, gutless wonders and the Jihadi nutcases overseas: I grew up in the cold-war, my parents went through WW2 for crying out loud. We are not paralyzed with fear over Osama. Despite your best efforts, I'm not obsessed with terrorism. Sheesh, I barely even think about it. I face bigger statistical risks, in every way, every day, and on every scale, just driving across a set of railroad tracks and down the interstate smoking a cigarette in the rain, and I don't worry much about that either.

And if you want me to be afraid for my very nation's survival, Jebus H Christ, you damn well better be able to wave around a threat considerably more convincing than a rag-tag group of zealots who shit in caves and beg other people to put on suicide belts sporting a rip cord detonator.


The only thing I can figure is that fear has been the ONLY thing that right wing conservatives have based their whole political philosophy on for decades…if not centuries. They know no other way.

Now with their domestic and foreign policy agenda in literal tatters this is the only way they have left to remain in power.

It really is rather pathetic.

[г]

We as American's have to endure different obstacles every day. This is all apart of life as a human being.. Learning how to over come these obstacles which Americans do. American's will never stop living there lives. The day we stop over coming obstacles is the day Terroists will win. This won't happen ever.

Telling people they cant bring on a bottle of water or lipstick. Is so minor. So what. Pack the lipstick in the check in bag. Ask the stewardess for a cup of water. Its free.

LOL, but in the meantime, you'll look pretty stupid having to walk through airport security naked, shoeless and looking forward to the obligitory cavity search if you want to take a one hour flight to Charlotte.

[TRIPLE P]

Terrorism is not winning…the fearmongers are. Conservatives and especially the GOP has become the THE FEAR PARTY.

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Well... isn't it essentially the same thing.... since 9/11 there hasn't been a successful attack on US soil and yet we keep getting stricter.....and if we had used the information we had, pre 9-11, then there wouldn't have been a 9-11.....

If we have the same dumb shits running the show, what is more security gonna do....it will still be misinterpreted, not taken seriously, or fall victim to the dreaded..."bad intel"

[JLB]

We as American's have to endure different obstacles every day. This is all apart of life as a human being.. Learning how to over come these obstacles which Americans do. American's will never stop living there lives. The day we stop over coming obstacles is the day Terroists will win. This won't happen ever.

Telling people they cant bring on a bottle of water or lipstick. Is so minor. So what. Pack the lipstick in the check in bag. Ask the stewardess for a cup of water. Its free.

Great Post Sue! :n4clapping: :rockon: :usaflag:

[njsue]

USA USA USA USA :usaflag:

[rob on the job]

We as American's have to endure different obstacles every day. This is all apart of life as a human being.. Learning how to over come these obstacles which Americans do. American's will never stop living there lives. The day we stop over coming obstacles is the day Terroists will win. This won't happen ever.

Telling people they cant bring on a bottle of water or lipstick. Is so minor. So what. Pack the lipstick in the check in bag. Ask the stewardess for a cup of water. Its free.

Good observation, Sue.

Think of what the Israelis have had to endure since 1947. Makes our security measures look like the rent-a-cops at Six Flags Darien Lake.

[njsue]

Good observation, Sue.

Think of what the Israelis have had to endure since 1947. Makes our security measures look like the rent-a-cops at Six Flags Darien Lake.

I agree. Then there would still be two buildings still standing in lower manhattan. ;)

[TRIPLE P]

I agree. Then there would still be two buildings still standing in lower manhattan. ;)

There would be had the governement acted on information they had, or some sense of urgency been taken when 4 planes were no longer on there flight paths....

[notacon]

Well... isn't it essentially the same thing.... since 9/11 there hasn't been a successful attack on US soil and yet we keep getting stricter.....and if we had used the information we had, pre 9-11, then there wouldn't have been a 9-11.....

If we have the same dumb shits running the show, what is more security gonna do....it will still be misinterpreted, not taken seriously, or fall victim to the dreaded..."bad intel"

The really bad thing about it is that the “security” that is being foisted on everyone is not very effective…except to annoy people.

The reason we have not been attacked since 9-11 is because the real bin Laden followers have not had to and hence have not tried.

Bush has reacted perfectly for bin Laden’s purposes.

The real weakness is in the containers coming into the country and security in the water supply and such. Shopping malls are a prime target. Want to throw America’s economy into a sustained tailspin…bomb a few shopping malls in Nowhere, USA.

The bottom line is that instead of reacting to ensure any kind of real security after 9-11 the neo-con cabal has brought up the unrelated and distracting invasion and occupation of Iraq with fear mongering lies and distortions of reality instead of addressing the real issues of security and the root causes of terrorism.

As long as Bush and the GOP is in charge it will never be addressed since they really have no clue as what to do…except smear anyone who does not back the disastrous 5 years of counterproductive measures of the Bush administration.

[Meathead]

i clearly see nipple

warning point

[njsue]

The really bad thing about it is that the “security” that is being foisted on everyone is not very effective…except to annoy people.

The reason we have not been attacked since 9-11 is because the real bin Laden followers have not had to and hence have not tried.

Bush has reacted perfectly for bin Laden’s purposes.

The real weakness is in the containers coming into the country and security in the water supply and such. Shopping malls are a prime target. Want to throw America’s economy into a sustained tailspin…bomb a few shopping malls in Nowhere, USA.

The bottom line is that instead of reacting to ensure any kind of real security after 9-11 the neo-con cabal has brought up the unrelated and distracting invasion and occupation of Iraq with fear mongering lies and distortions of reality instead of addressing the real issues of security and the root causes of terrorism.

As long as Bush and the GOP is in charge it will never be addressed since they really have no clue as what to do…except smear anyone who does not back the disastrous 5 years of counterproductive measures of the Bush administration.


Halleluiah.

[TRIPLE P]

The really bad thing about it is that the “security” that is being foisted on everyone is not very effective…except to annoy people.

The reason we have not been attacked since 9-11 is because the real bin Laden followers have not had to and hence have not tried.

Bush has reacted perfectly for bin Laden’s purposes.

The real weakness is in the containers coming into the country and security in the water supply and such. Shopping malls are a prime target. Want to throw America’s economy into a sustained tailspin…bomb a few shopping malls in Nowhere, USA.

The bottom line is that instead of reacting to ensure any kind of real security after 9-11 the neo-con cabal has brought up the unrelated and distracting invasion and occupation of Iraq with fear mongering lies and distortions of reality instead of addressing the real issues of security and the root causes of terrorism.

As long as Bush and the GOP is in charge it will never be addressed since they really have no clue as what to do…except smear anyone who does not back the disastrous 5 years of counterproductive measures of the Bush administration.

I'm with you man....you're preching to the choir

[shiva2999]

Bush has reacted perfectly for bin Laden’s purposes.

Or Bin Laden has conveniently provided the excuse for Bushy's reactions.

[Dontdieman]

NEWSFLASH:

You cant defeat Terrorism.....Its a tactic.

[Green Lantern]

NEWSFLASH:

You cant defeat Terrorism.....Its a tactic.

You can counteract it.

[SpikedLemonade]

i clearly see nipple

warning point

Shhhhhh!

It's nice nipple.

[35Pete]

i clearly see nipple

warning point

Janet Jackson is on this thread?

[anEinherjer]

Terrorism is not winning…the fearmongers are. Conservatives and especially the GOP has become the THE FEAR PARTY.

Here is a good explanation on the distorted perspective…


Perspective: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Get a Grip (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/14/65537/7743)



The only thing I can figure is that fear has been the ONLY thing that right wing conservatives have based their whole political philosophy on for decades…if not centuries. They know no other way.

Now with their domestic and foreign policy agenda in literal tatters this is the only way they have left to remain in power.

It really is rather pathetic.

Come on man, you claim to be independent minded, you claim to only want to talk about the facts, then you produce posts like this.

As I see it, BOTH parties deal in fearmongering. It's the American political way of life. Ever notice that when the right was trying to change welfare, medicare, or social security how the left responds?

You act here as though the right has some sort of monopoly on fear.

[35Pete]

Come on man, you claim to be independent minded, you claim to only want to talk about the facts, then you produce posts like this.

As I see it, BOTH parties deal in fearmongering. It's the American political way of life. Ever notice that when the right was trying to change welfare, medicare, or social security how the left responds?

You act here as though the right has some sort of monopoly on fear.
I agree with this. The problem that I have is that the left is just plain mean around here sometimes. So I am giving them a taste of their own medicine. But doing it within the rules and shining some humor on things to.

[TRIPLE P]

Come on man, you claim to be independent minded, you claim to only want to talk about the facts, then you produce posts like this.

As I see it, BOTH parties deal in fearmongering. It's the American political way of life. Ever notice that when the right was trying to change welfare, medicare, or social security how the left responds?

You act here as though the right has some sort of monopoly on fear.

Global Warming vs Terrorism.......

Washington, and politics in general, is a ****ing brothel..... nothing good comes out of it.

The problem is we, as humans, can one another with a call from a cell phone, or with a laser guided missle.....

[anEinherjer]

Right on WXP. Now, I can see complaining that the GOP has lost its way and given in to fearmongering, but I'm not sure they ever weren't doing such (the 'social' right is always whining about the decline of western civilization).

[TRIPLE P]

Right on WXP. Now, I can see complaining that the GOP has lost its way and given in to fearmongering, but I'm not sure they ever weren't doing such (the 'social' right is always whining about the decline of western civilization).

The difference is that using terrorism...or percieved terrorism.....is a dirty trick.

Forcing people to wait in 3 hour lines and throw away thier belongings to board a commuter flight is an overreaction......

The caught the guys trying to bring liquid explosives on a plane without these measures..... they can again.

[shiva2999]

I guess no one saw the 2004 RNC, did you?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kcz4_JL5b7c

[dasaybz]

Isn't the entire goal of terrorism to change our way of life, and to make the threat of harm something we constantly think about?

This recent BS with the liquids on airlines is just another "W" for terrorism.....just another example of perceived threats causing an overreaction....

Lipstick, baby formula, shampoo.....****ing pathetic...... you guys are pussies.

You actually think these "terrorists" are that smart?
hahahha

These guys duct tape paper clip bombs to their chests, blow up their own people, yet in the back of their minds they are really thinking, that they are going to **** up our well being?

haahahahahaha

[TRIPLE P]

You actually think these "terrorists" are that smart?
hahahha

These guys duct tape paper clip bombs to their chests, blow up their own people, yet in the back of their minds they are really thinking, that they are going to **** up our well being?

haahahahahaha

Can you not post in my threads?

[TRIPLE P]

I guess no one saw the 2004 RNC, did you?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kcz4_JL5b7c


:barf:

[anEinherjer]

:rofl:

[dasaybz]

Can you not post in my threads?

:beerme:

[JLB]

:guy: You actually think these "terrorists" are that smart?
hahahha

These guys duct tape paper clip bombs to their chests, blow up their own people, yet in the back of their minds they are really thinking, that they are going to **** up our well being?

haahahahahaha

:guy: Great Post!!

[nehemiah]

I agree with this. The problem that I have is that the left is just plain mean around here sometimes. So I am giving them a taste of their own medicine. But doing it within the rules and shining some humor on things to.:dunno:

[smashingt2312]

No matter what we do terrorism is here to stay. It's just like the war of drugs. As technology expands so will the way to perform a terrorist attack will. There pretty much is no way to fight it.

[njsue]

No matter what we do terrorism is here to stay. It's just like the war of drugs. As technology expands so will the way to perform a terrorist attack will. There pretty much is no way to fight it.



They will be contained.

[anEinherjer]

So like the war on drugs we should just legalize terrorism? :D

[rob on the job]

Terrorists can be beaten.

The Malayan Emergency was thwarted in 1948. The Mau-Maus were defeated in Kenya in the 1950s. Even the IRA put down the gun after Sinn Fein got its foot in the door of government.

[TRIPLE P]

It seems alot of you think http://thatskannada.oneindia.in/images/muslim_terror.jpg when you think of terrorists.....

Muslims aren't going to be the face of terrorism forever....it will be China, or Korea, or somewhere else.....but its clearly an effective strategy based on how its changed our country.....it will be used by others.

[smashingt2312]

They will be contained.

But i dont think it will ever be stopped.

[rob on the job]

But i dont think it will ever be stopped.

Well, hell, I don't think the common cold can ever be stopped. But most people would be satisfied if they got it only once in a blue moon.

[smashingt2312]

Well, hell, I don't think the common cold can ever be stopped. But most people would be satisfied if they got it only once in a blue moon.

And so far so good, for america at least.

[dasaybz]

It seems alot of you think http://thatskannada.oneindia.in/images/muslim_terror.jpg when you think of terrorists.....

Muslims aren't going to be the face of terrorism forever....it will be China, or Korea, or somewhere else.....but its clearly an effective strategy based on how its changed our country.....it will be used by others.

When's the last time you heard of a chinaman strapping explosives to his chest and hopping on a plane?

[TRIPLE P]

When's the last time you heard of a chinaman strapping explosives to his chest and hopping on a plane?

Not now, but in the future who knows....terrorism doesn't have to be muslim exclusive.

[rob on the job]

Not now, but in the future who knows....terrorism doesn't have to be muslim exclusive.

Let's face it -- the Muslims are in a class of their own when it comes to killing innocents.

The US will lead the world in popular culture; Italy will lead the world in wine production; and Muslims will stack bodies like cordwood.

[dasaybz]

Not now, but in the future who knows....terrorism doesn't have to be muslim exclusive.

I see where you are going with this, but the middle east terrorists have been doing this for hundreds of years. Most of this terrorism IMO has more to do with religion than anything else. The religious mecca for most of these middle eastern folks is in Jerusalem. This area has been in chaos for a very very long time.

Chinamen on the other hand, really have never shown to be a "terroristic" threat and it seems like there are many reasons why. The least of which is probably geography.

[TRIPLE P]

Let's face it -- the Muslims are in a class of their own when it comes to killing innocents.

The US will lead the world in popular culture; Italy will lead the world in wine production; and Muslims will stack bodies like cordwood.

Muslims haven't got SHIT on the christians and you know it.

[dasaybz]

Muslims haven't got SHIT on the christians and you know it.

I'll agree with you on this. More specifically European Christians.

[smashingt2312]

It's not going to simply be muslim, there are a lot of terrorit organizations that hate the west as much as hezbollah, al-qaeda etc, and you have to consider other forms of terrorists attacks, not just the bombings, cyber terrorism, tainting supplies of food and water, but i think the next terrorist attack could be wiping out a power grid, it it hit southern california or the tri-state area that could get bad.

[TRIPLE P]

I see where you are going with this, but the middle east terrorists have been doing this for hundreds of years. Most of this terrorism IMO has more to do with religion than anything else. The religious mecca for most of these middle eastern folks is in Jerusalem. This area has been in chaos for a very very long time.

Chinamen on the other hand, really have never shown to be a "terroristic" threat and it seems like there are many reasons why. The least of which is probably geography.

The point is....if there are a desparate group of people with nothing to loose, and terrorism has been shown to effectively get the attention of the most powerful nation on the planet, it will be used.....

[rob on the job]

Muslims haven't got SHIT on the christians and you know it.

Where are the Christians blowing up planes these days, Willis?

[dasaybz]

The point is....if there are a desparate group of people with nothing to loose, and terrorism has been shown to effectively get the attention of the most powerful nation on the planet, it will be used.....

I don't know man. History repeats itself, and history has shown that the vast majority of terroristic behavior has been in the Middle East.

[TRIPLE P]

Where are the Christians blowing up planes these days, Willis?

They don't have too...every other religion has so much catching up to do.....

"the Muslims are in a class of there own...." Absolutely not true.... The Christians paved the way hundreds of years ago.

[rob on the job]

They don't have too...every other religion has so much catching up to do.....

"the Muslims are in a class of there own...." Absolutely not true.... The Christians paved the way hundreds of years ago.

But like the Asians and Europeans taking over America's car market, so too have the Middle Easterners usurped our once-dominant position in killing.

I mean, look at those videos where they saw off some American schmuck's head as he screams in agony -- perfection!

Look at the plotting to fly jetliners into skyscrapers, or to hide bombs in shoes to destroy planes, or to mix chemicals together to blow up 10 planes over the Atlantic -- unsurpassed excellence!

It takes real unreasoning hatred to come up with this kind of creativity in killing.

America and the West have so much ground to make up.

[shiva2999]

Where are the Christians blowing up planes these days, Willis?

http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/wtc-4small.jpg

[shiva2999]

Look at the plotting to fly jetliners into skyscrapers, or to hide bombs in shoes to destroy planes, or to mix chemicals together to blow up 10 planes over the Atlantic -- unsurpassed excellence!

It takes real unreasoning hatred to come up with this kind of creativity in killing.


You're the expert on unreasoning hatred all right.

[rob on the job]

You're the expert on unreasoning hatred all right.

Three months ago, you might have been right.

But my sabbatical has filled me with love.

I love all of you, even you brain-dead putrid piles of rancid piss lefties.

http://www.bobandtomstore.com/frames/store_2004/shirts_img/t02_sm.jpg

[TRIPLE P]

America and the West have so much ground to make up.




Since 9/11 more Muslims have died at the hands of America than Americans at the hands of Muslims.

[shiva2999]

Three months ago, you might have been right.

But my sabbatical has filled me with love.

I love all of you, even you brain-dead putrid piles of rancid piss lefties.

http://www.bobandtomstore.com/frames/store_2004/shirts_img/t02_sm.jpg

And some people say self-flaggelation is an anachronism with no relevance to the modern world!

It's like the Catholic version of electro-shock therapy.

Sounds medieval but you're living proof it works.

Score one for the Papists!

[rob on the job]

Since 9/11 more Muslims have died at the hands of America than Americans at the hands of Muslims.

Yeah, but we're waaaaaaay behind in sawing off people's heads and planting car bombs.

[TRIPLE P]

Yeah, but we're waaaaaaay behind in sawing off people's heads and planting car bombs.

But think of how we've cornered the "torture", "electrodes on POW nipples" and the "forced rape and execution style killing of 14 year old girls and her family" market.....

[rob on the job]

But think of how we've cornered the "torture", "electrodes on POW nipples" and the "forced rape and execution style killing of 14 year old girls and her family" market.....

Hey, you've got to stick with the time-honored classics.

[dasaybz]

But think of how we've cornered the "torture", "electrodes on POW nipples" and the "forced rape and execution style killing of 14 year old girls and her family" market.....

I thought that market dried up a long time ago.

[TRIPLE P]

I thought that market dried up a long time ago.


who knew?