Afinogenov signs multi year deal

[TheAnswer74]

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=173003&hubname=nhl

[phishhead220]

http://www.sabres.com/newsarchive.cfm?id=593

multi year deal

WGR said 3 years.

[Jimi7862]

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=173003&hubname=

signs multiyear deal.

[CrazzyLegs10]

YES! .....unless we trade him
whats the numbers?

[sukie]

Merged two threads into here... TheAnswer74 won the posting by a mere 15 seconds.

[TheAnswer74]

YES! .....unless we trade him
whats the numbers?


I would say 3-3.5 per.

BUT, the way the Sabres have structured these deals, I bet he gets in the 2-2.5 mil range year 1 and his contract will increase significantly each year.

[Chewbacher]

This is good news. Could the Sabres possibly want to keep Max instead of Danny? It was a smart move by not letting Max go to Arbitration like Danny did.

[Scary Good]

That Blows

[Sabres244]

I hope its 3 to 3.5, if Dumont and Biron go, Briere staying is possible

[ckg68]

Why does part of me still think Regier's got something up his sleeve......?

[beTough54]

This is the sign we have been waiting for.

Tommy G has loosened the purse strings. He wants to win more than make money.

There is no way they would have signed Maxim unless this was true.

This is great, great news.

[TheAnswer74]

This is the sign we have been waiting for.

Tommy G has loosened the purse strings. He wants to win more than make money.

There is no way they would have signed Maxim unless this was true.

This is great, great news.

I dont think thats his thinking. Like any business man, you gotta spend money to make money.

Buffalo is ready to make a run for 5 or more years, he would be stupid to break this team up.

The city is ready to buy up everything to do with the Sabres.

[Yellow Dog]

if you plan on dumping Briere, sure, we could afford Max at $3.5mil. which is a total waste, Max should've been dumped sometime after January of last year...

[Thumper]

Wow. When I first read this, I thought "So long, Danny......" and I felt bad. I don't know if I can think Briere is going bye-bye just yet....But this makes it seem more likely.

But this can't be a 4 million dollar per year deal. I'm very, very suprised.

I don't think Golisano is just opening up his wallet.....He's a buisness man first. A fan second.

There's a decently sized trade brewing.

It involves 1, 2, or 3 of these players....

Briere
Afinogenov
Dumont
Kalinin

[Iggy72]

I have to say that I'm impressed; surprised, but impressed. For all the criticism we were pre-empting at Max, it seems he's willing to stick around for 3 years with a team that has a good chance of going further.

Pax.
Iggy72

[TheAnswer74]

if you plan on dumping Briere, sure, we could afford Max at $3.5mil. which is a total waste, Max should've been dumped sometime after January of last year...

We have no clue what we can afford.

In the past, yeah we had no choice but to spend at around 30 million, but Tommy G wipes his ass with more money he gave Briere.

Man I hope this guy buys the Bills.

The best part about this is Max's hot tennis girlfriend will be in Buffalo more.

[ddpderek]

YES !!!!!!

This is great news and last night i posted in another thread that I thought Buffalo would get something done with Max soon and they actually did.

To Yellow Dog you wont be complaining when max puts up some 90 point years. You can not judge this guy on one playoff alone.

[Yellow Dog]

We have no clue what we can afford.

In the past, yeah we had no choice but to spend at around 30 million, but Tommy G wipes his ass with more money he gave Briere.

Man I hope this guy buys the Bills.

from what we've heard so far is that Tom G. isn't expecting to pay out much more than he did last year. this is common knowledge. something has to be up. getting rid of Briere AND failing to bring about a killer logo would surely sink the ship ;)

[bduff54]

interested to see the numbers, i am not a fan of max. he is exciting but i bet his numbers go down this year.

[thisisfunah]

"Max is one of the most exciting players in the NHL," said Regier. "We look forward to keeping him in Buffalo for years to come."

thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[Yellow Dog]

To Yellow Dog you wont be complaining when max puts up some 90 point years. You can not judge this guy on one playoff alone.

i believe he fell apart around January of last year. all he could do was take the puck, skate around (dazzlingly, of course) and then either lose the puck or make a lame pass. we've given this guy enough time, he should've have 90 pts/35-40 goals last year. i love him, just like the rest of us, but...

[dasaybz]

:clapper: This is a great signing ... my favorite so far (at least until I see the numbers)

[Yellow Dog]

Dumont for Osgood, in lieu of the Max signing. Then Marty to St. Louis.

i like the sound of this...

[pigpen65]

Wow!!! I feel like a normal fan for once. Finally we can start talking about the NHL cap instead of Buffalo's cap.

[TheAnswer74]

from what we've heard so far is that Tom G. isn't expecting to pay out much more than he did last year. this is common knowledge. something has to be up. getting rid of Briere AND failing to bring about a killer logo would surely sink the ship ;)

The last I heard Darcy, which was after they sign Connolly, he was asked if they would have to dump players salaries, but he said it was up to ownership.

Normally he gives a #, but this time I got the feeling he is working with the NHL cap instead of the self imposed 30-34 million cap he normally has to work with.

[M76]

i want the numbers!! but as a fan that has been a bit soured.. this is great.. i am thinking about eating crow and loving Bthomas G.. mutli's for everyone.. only real concerns now are drury after this year briere after this year.. miller we have by defualt and maybe kalinen

[GrapeDRINK]

interested to see the numbers, i am not a fan of max. he is exciting but i bet his numbers go down this year.
I bet the Leafs suck again and don't win a game in HSBC as usual.

[GrapeDRINK]

if you plan on dumping Briere, sure, we could afford Max at $3.5mil. which is a total waste, Max should've been dumped sometime after January of last year...
Go away troll...

[Sabres244]

I bet the Leafs suck again and don't win a game in HSBC as usual.
I second that

[CrazzyLegs10]

cant trade speculate until the n umbers now give the numbers!

[bduff54]

I second that

ok, not really sure what any of that has to do with this signing.

I don't like the mccabe signing either.

[CrazzyLegs10]

I second that

agreed

[ddpderek]

Hell if we keep Danny I be thrilled just seem realistic and if we do he will be gone after tehis year anyways i promise you he will walk for the cash even if it isnt a huge difference.

I think Maxs contract will be 3 million, 3.5 million and 3.75

Yellowdog Max will be fine you give him some good line mates like Connelly and he can light it up.

[Smapdi]

I can't argue against the signing, keeps the team together. If Golisano has given Darcy the thumbs up on spending to the cap limit then great, this team is set for the next 4 or 5 years.

Biron has to be moved at some point because they may be risking hitting the cap.

[CupCrazy]

YES!!!!

Happy Happy Happy!!!!!

[smashingt2312]

Wow, really really surprised by this, looks like golisano wants to win now.

[iloathepats]

This is the sign we have been waiting for.

Tommy G has loosened the purse strings. He wants to win more than make money.

There is no way they would have signed Maxim unless this was true.

This is great, great news.

true, true. the sabres made about as much money as theyre going to last year, and it was a few million.

tom's a billionare so hed probly rather win than have the extra spare change

[Sabres244]

3 yrs 10 mil?

[SabresFan220]

$3 million a year sounds great for Max, I'll bet it could be backloaded like the other guys we've signed long term. I wouldn't be shocked to see a guy packaged with Marty for something/someone, then we sign a cheap backup. Now Kalinin seems like the guy we'd let go, and again I would hesitate to do that unless we got a solid player in return. Kalinin deserves a chance to rebound off a bad year and I think he'll do that, but it could be in a different city.

[beTough54]

3 yrs 10 mil?

Are you just guessing?

If that's true:

I <3 http://pages.prodigy.net/oldchl/dregier2indy.jpg

[Sabres244]

I dunno how accurate they are because they corrected Timmys but ... http://www.sabrefans.com/

[CrazzyLegs10]

good deal, love it, finally agree its been a good postseason

[Poz51]

3 years at $10 million - I guess I can live with that, seeing that the arbitrators most likely would've given him at least $4 million.

[CrazzyLegs10]

live with it? i believe this is a "steal" as most people see it, and 3 years? told you max for long term may be better than briere for 1 year, but who knows what will happen

[Yellow Dog]

Go away troll...

2 questions, why would you call me a troll? and, how old are you? can i get you a soda? oh wait, that's three questions. weird...

[Smapdi]

He was talking to bduff I believe...

[Yellow Dog]

Yellowdog Max will be fine you give him some good line mates like Connelly and he can light it up.

like i said, i love the guy too. i guess we'll see.

[Yellow Dog]

He was talking to bduff I believe...

naw, he quoted me. i must've given my own opinion that he didn't agree with. strange reaction. funny stuff, right there...

[PhoenixSabreFan]

Just cause Max signed a deal doesn't mean he stay's...Max under contract looks much more attractive to other teams than Max with a 1 or 2 year rediculous arbitor ruling...can we please not speculate on the terms of the deal and if we do please leave a link cause sorry but I'm not gonna take your word for it

[Yellow Dog]

speculation is all we got. it doesn't hurt anyone to take a stab. i'm gonna say 3 years, $12m: $3m/4m/5m.

[CrazzyLegs10]

Just cause Max signed a deal doesn't mean he stay's...Max under contract looks much more attractive to other teams than Max with a 1 or 2 year rediculous arbitor ruling...can we please not speculate on the terms of the deal and if we do please leave a link cause sorry but I'm not gonna take your word for it

yeah but he's signed and Briere isn't, big difference right now

[beTough54]

When was the last time somebody signed a 3-year deal with a team and was promptly traded by that same team in the NHL???

The answer is never or extremely rarely. If Maxim was going anywhere, this contract would have come from the team he was going to. That's how it works with RFA trades.

He is here to stay. Thumper's list of those who might go is accurate, but only if you take off Afinogenov.

[CrazzyLegs10]

When was the last time somebody signed a 3-year deal with a team and was promptly traded by that same team in the NHL???

The answer is never or extremely rarely. If Maxim was going anywhere, this contract would have come from the team he was going to. That's how it works with RFA trades.

He is here to stay. Thumper's list of those who might go is accurate, but only if you take off Afinogenov.

agreed, the only way trade was coming if he went to arbitration and got 4 mill

[Thumper]

2 questions, why would you call me a troll? and, how old are you? can i get you a soda? oh wait, that's three questions. weird...

Now I know you're not any kind of troll, Yellow Dog. But if you're going to be asking how old someone is, you better have your age on display as well ;)

[PhoenixSabreFan]

The good thing about Briere's situation is that it's in Buffalo's hands and not that of Briere or some greedy agent so at least we won't have to deal with any holdout

[Thumper]

When was the last time somebody signed a 3-year deal with a team and was promptly traded by that same team in the NHL???

The answer is never or extremely rarely. If Maxim was going anywhere, this contract would have come from the team he was going to. That's how it works with RFA trades.

He is here to stay. Thumper's list of those who might go is accurate, but only if you take off Afinogenov.


I don't know when the last time that happend. But I'm sure it has. If Regier really signed Max on the cheaper side for this year, with a back loaded contract, you absolutely could see Max dealt. Maybe not this season, but I wouldn't rule anything out. He'd be even more attractive to certain teams, knowing that they'll have him locked up for a pretty good price with a multi-year contract....That would sweeten the deal for any team willing to attempt to trade for him.

[Yellow Dog]

Now I know you're not any kind of troll, Yellow Dog. But if you're going to be asking how old someone is, you better have your age on display as well ;)

ha! 32 and old enough to talk on a message board ;)

[Junior]

As per TSN.CA its 3 years 10 million 3, 3.5, 3.5

[Thumper]

As per TSN.CA its 3 years 10 million 3, 3.5, 3.5

Damn. Darcy is awesome, and kudos to Afinogenov for signing, when he knew he'd probably get more for 1 year of an arbitration deal.

Tells me he likes where he is. And what more can anyone ask for?!

[Cornellian]

So we're at $29,806,000. Including Briere's contract, $34,806,000. That leaves us a shade under $10,000,000 to ink Dumont, Mair, Kalinin, Miller, and Novotny, more once we trade Biron.

I think this is going to work.
Thank you, Tom G.

[ddpderek]

Im starting to think like the rest of that we will keep danny and max... I still wouldnt keep danny tho as we will give him 5 million. Then he will play good this year and walk and I hate when players do that.

I dont know why I have that feeling about him. Oh well.

[Sabres244]

like I said earlier in the thread 3 yrs 10 mil, no I wasnt messing around blue, so I take it you love Darcy

[beTough54]

Yes I do, but that's been known for a while. He just continues to prove me right.

[smashingt2312]

3 years at 10 mil, wow, very good darcy, its very unfortunate though he couldnt pull something off with danny for around 4-4.5.

[Papaduke]

When was the last time somebody signed a 3-year deal with a team and was promptly traded by that same team in the NHL???

The answer is never or extremely rarely. If Maxim was going anywhere, this contract would have come from the team he was going to. That's how it works with RFA trades.

He is here to stay. Thumper's list of those who might go is accurate, but only if you take off Afinogenov.

Hossa but that was a much larger contract, he is making $6,000,000

[anEinherjer]

The news from 1 Sabres Drive (they need to rename a street down there) is nothing but good, and never quits. Just one more notch on the "best offseason ever" thread.

[two4trippn]

Good numbers, remains a moveable asset. This contract better not cost the club Dumont or Briere.

[bduff54]

Good numbers, remains a moveable asset. This contract better not cost the club Dumont or Briere.

lol, i doubt they can keep them all.

[Yellow Dog]

someone's got to give...

[anEinherjer]

One thing I've noticed is the absolute certainty with which some posters KNOW what the Sabres must or mustn't do. And the Darcy comes along and blows 'em all away. Consistantly.

So why bother trying to be so sure about anything relating to Sabres finances?

Let's just let it play out - do I believe JP, Briere and Max will all be here this year? Less than 50/50, but anything can happen (and HAS BEEN!).

[TheAnswer74]

Yes I do, but that's been known for a while. He just continues to prove me right.
Im a big Darcy fan as well. The trades this guy has made have been amazing.

Drury, Connolly, Briere, Lydman, and Hecht. Basically the only decent player He gave up was Peca, and he is on the decline.

[CrazzyLegs10]

3 years at 10 mil, wow, very good darcy, its very unfortunate though he couldnt pull something off with danny for around 4-4.5.

too bad, who knows what the offer was, Briere long term better than max

[ddpderek]

Good numbers, remains a moveable asset. This contract better not cost the club Dumont or Briere.


Why are you so high on two guys that were not willing to sign 2 or 3 deals to stay here?

Danny got 5

JP 2.9

They are worried about one thing and that is the cash and if we keep either of them I promise you that they will walk next summr. Some team will offer Danny about 5.75 or 6 million a year and JP will be offered 3 or 3.5 from some team. We will not match these offers and there is no way we should as they are not worth that kind of money espec with our budget.

If we trade them for some grit and role guys and picks we will with out a doubt still be a top contender this year but more importantly for the next 3 or 4. We can not put all our eggs into one season.

One of them needs to go now as they will be going next year anyways.

Both have health issues that concern me and I think they are both replaceable.

I know Danny is good, but is it worth paying him 5 million then watch him leave for nothing in return?

[two4trippn]

Who was the last Sabres player that could contribute more than 1 pt a game, with his regular linemates?
I dont care if Dumont is traded as long as Briere remains. To me, Dumont is more valuable than Kotalik and others. Pay them now and move whoever is not performing up to or better than last season's pace during the season.

Health issues are stronger with Connolly and Afinogenov, both with severe concussions. Hecht worries me with 2 bad knees and seems jinxed with nagging problems.

As far as keeping either Dumont or Briere beyond June '07, its very possible as long as Darcy dumps those under performing during the next season.

[noocllez]

Why are you so high on two guys that were not willing to sign 2 or 3 deals to stay here?

Danny got 5

JP 2.9

They are worried about one thing and that is the cash and if we keep either of them I promise you that they will walk next summr. Some team will offer Danny about 5.75 or 6 million a year and JP will be offered 3 or 3.5 from some team. We will not match these offers and there is no way we should as they are not worth that kind of money espec with our budget.

If we trade them for some grit and role guys and picks we will with out a doubt still be a top contender this year but more importantly for the next 3 or 4. We can not put all our eggs into one season.

One of them needs to go now as they will be going next year anyways.

Both have health issues that concern me and I think they are both replaceable.

I know Danny is good, but is it worth paying him 5 million then watch him leave for nothing in return?

yeah, but if you win a cup with danny this year. i think he's the type that would chill for the remainder of his career at 4-4.5/5yrs here. just a hunch and i know whats happening now makes my comment look like absolute crap. but, hey, putting all your eggs in one basket can sometimes yeild some wicked results. what do you think they do in DET, PHILLY, COL, etc. EVERY YEAR? exactly that, they push to the max salary to give themselves a chance at glory. get with the times, this is not a sport, its a crap shoot - played only by the rich and l33t.

just my rant.. no worries ; ]

hope they keep em all... heh


jay
Brooklyn

[ddpderek]

No your right if Buffalo could spend the cap we be a great team but we just cant.

Also Max played the whole year last year and was perfectly fine. I thik the Hernia issue is one not to dismiss so lightly.

You speak of getting rid of the "under performers", but who will replace these guys ? If we invest to much into Danny we will not be as deep of a team which is the main thing we have going for us.