If the Holocaust Did NOT Happen, Would There Have Been a State of Israel?

[SpikedLemonade]

Many here have hypothesized that it was The First World's guilt about their lack of involvement to stop the Holocaust that caused them to sledge-hammer a Jewish Homeland in between Arab countries and on Palestine land.

So if that is true, what if there was NO Holocaust?

Would there be a state of Israel?

Please, if there are some nuts out there that claim the Holocaust NEVER happened, please save your idiotic ideas for another thread.

The second question is -- if $6 million plus Jews did NOT die in the Holocaust, what would this world look like?

Think about it.

Take the 6 Million Jews (YES they were NOT all Jews, but to keep the issue simplier, assume they were) and project that out with birthrates since the Holocaust. What is that 12 Million? 18 Million? 24 Million?

What would the world look like with that much larger Jewish population?

What would Europe look like including Russia?

What would the US look like?

Would there have been much less Jews in the US if they did NOT have to flee Europe?

What would the influence of the Jewish people be if its population was much much larger, but the Holocaust guilt factor was NOT there?

Thoughts?

[Soviet_Canuckastani]

Hard to say.

[SpikedLemonade]

Nice edit Shiva's alter ego.

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Ask Ernst Zundel

[SpikedLemonade]

Ask Ernst Zundel

Didn't we deport him?

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Just recently...

[SpikedLemonade]

Just recently...

Where did we send him to -- Israel?

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http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/pix/zundel_e2003_cp_4422750.jpg

Germany. He can get a haircut for 4 dm over there
(1 mark a side)

[shiva2999]

Many here have hypothesized that it was The First World's guilt about their lack of involvement to stop the Holocaust that caused them to sledge-hammer a Jewish Homeland in between Arab countries and on Palestine land.

So if that is true, what if there was NO Holocaust?

Would there be a state of Israel?

There would be no need for the state of Israel.

Jews would already be ruling the world.

[uppy]

The second question is -- if $6 million plus Jews did NOT die in the Holocaust, what would this world look like?



Thoughts?

Is the $ some kind of inside joke ?

[sukie]

The jews have been slaughtered and massacred and exhiled throughout history. what would the world be like if none of that never happened. Shocking that there were 6 million around for the holocaust.

[smashingt2312]

Hmm hard to say, my immediate reaction was no.

[SpikedLemonade]

Is the $ some kind of inside joke ?

NO.

Sorry just a typo.

I'm NOT used to typing numbers that big without a dollar sign in front of it.

[SpikedLemonade]

There would be no need for the state of Israel.

Jews would already be ruling the world.

Hmmmmm....:rolleyes2

[uppy]

Thanks for the answer spike

[Player6600]

There probably would be Israel only because 1/3 of the population in Palestine was Jewish and many were coming in. Also, it was not a country under Arab rule it was a colony and after WWII the British empire fell allowing those living in that country to take over.

[SpikedLemonade]

Thanks for the answer spike

Hey, I'm much more direct if I want to insult a whole religion.

Besides, experience tells me that NOT all Jews are either cheap, good with money or filthy rich.

They are just like everyone else.

I love Jews.

I hate Israel.

The problem is when Jews defend Israel to irrational ends.

Then when I attack their position, they call me a N, A-S or R.

[Gibby]

No, probably not, at least not as a sovereign entity. There would probably be some type of British protectorate that had space for Jews and Arabs but neither would have statehood.

[SpikedLemonade]

No, probably not, at least not as a sovereign entity. There would probably be some type of British protectorate that had space for Jews and Arabs but neither would have statehood.

That's the correct answer.:n4clapping:

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Then when I attack their position, they call me a N, A-S or R.

Add a letter here and a letter there and it spells NASCAR.

What a coinky-dink...

[SpikedLemonade]

Add a letter here and a letter there and it spells NASCAR.

What a coinky-dink...


Well they have called me a C*** as well?

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I got slapped for calling someone a Lazy C*** the other day, right Sukie ?

[sukie]

Abiding by the rules of TOS are SOOOOOO simple... A cave man could do it.

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As pennance, they made me listen to 50 cent (or something like that)

[Stealth01]

There would be no need for the state of Israel.

Jews would already be ruling the world.

LOL. Funny guy!

[Gibby]

There would be no need for the state of Israel.

Jews would already be ruling the world.

I take it that you are joking, anyway read Protocols of the Elders of Zion and then tell me that this forgery doesn't read like a run away conspiracy theory or a funny episode of Pinky and the Brain. Pobedenetsev and his people at the Okhrana should have stopped hunting down revolutionaries and kept to fiction. They weren't that good at either, but they were the first do do a Dave Brown. That is copying someone else's work and then claiming their fiction is fact.

[shiva2999]

Read "Foucault's Pendulum" by Umberto Eco.

[Gibby]

Read "Foucault's Pendulum" by Umberto Eco.

I have, interesting stuff.

[shiva2999]

http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html

[SpikedLemonade]

Abiding by the rules of TOS are SOOOOOO simple... A cave man could do it.

That's NOT the four-letter C word that we are referring to by C***.

[SpikedLemonade]

NOT really sure what we have concluded here.:rolleyes2