Who is the most electible Dem candidate?

[NorthwesternFan]

I would like to know who everyone thinks is the most likely dem candidate to get elected in the next presidential election. Al Gore was on the tonight show a few weeks ago and was actually personable and funny. I think if his handlers would have let him be humorous he would have burried dub in the 2000 election. There would have been no need for the recount.

So again... Who is the most electible candidate? Not who you agree with..Not who is the biggest bleeding heart, treehugging, getting it in the rear liberal... Who can actually connect with moderate america?

[JLB]

I asked this question the silence was deafening.

To get actually elected is tough.

[BillsCAfan]

Evan Bayh

[JLB]

http://www.jinsa.org/documents/200409/2674.jpgEvan Bayh

Is he from Indiana?

Hell he looks smart enough to be a Republican.

[BillsCAfan]

http://www.jinsa.org/documents/200409/2674.jpg

Is he from Indiana?

Hell he looks smart enough to be a Republican.

Evan Bayh will win the dem primary and be president come 2008.

[JLB]

Evan Bayh will win the dem primary and be president come 2008.

He does look Presidential gotta give you that.
How did he vote on the WAR?

[BillsCAfan]

He does look Presidential gotta give you that.
How did he vote on the WAR?

He voted for using force on Iraq, but voted no on a timetable to bring troops home the last time Kerry brought up the bill.

The reason why I think Bayh will win the presidency is because he is tremendously popular in Indiana. As a dem he had the highest job approval rating of any governor in Indiana...almost need 80% level. He is currently a senator in Indiana and still VERY popular. He will win Indiana, and has the absolute best chance among all Dems of winning Ohio, Iowa, Virginia and Missouri.

[JLB]

He voted for using force on Iraq, but voted no on a timetable to bring troops home the last time Kerry brought up the bill.

The reason why I think Bayh will win the presidency is because he is tremendously popular in Indiana. As a dem he had the highest job approval rating of any governor in Indiana...almost need 80% level. He is currently a senator in Indiana and still VERY popular. He will win Indiana, and has the absolute best chance among all Dems of winning Ohio, Iowa, Virginia and Missouri.

Good Post seems like a good candidate.
I like his votes on what I asked you.
Is he considered a moderate in most camps?

[BillsCAfan]

Good Post seems like a good candidate.
I like his votes on what I asked you.
Is he considered a moderate in most camps?

He is a moderate, but I think he's a winner when it comes to general elections. Hardcore liberals will vote for any dem. The election needs to be won in the middle, and Bayh appeals to independents and conservative dems/liberal repubs.

Mark Warner is also another great candidate. A Bayh-Warner ticket will go straight to the white house.

[JLB]

He is a moderate, but I think he's a winner when it comes to general elections. Hardcore liberals will vote for any dem. The election needs to be won in the middle, and Bayh appeals to independents and conservative dems/liberal repubs.

Mark Warner is also another great candidate. A Bayh-Warner ticket will go straight to the white house.

I was going to suggest a viable dem governor.
What about the governor from New Mexico any chance there?
Richardson I believe.

[uppy]

Members of congress don't do well in Prez elections...JFK was the last one
that won.

[LVBillsfan]

General Wesley Clark retired. The guy is very intelligent and knows how to lead. He is one of the many generals who cautioned the President that we needed a complete plan for entering Iraq and that the way we were/are doing it would not be effective. He voiced his concerns and reventually had to retire.

[JLB]

Members of congress don't do well in Prez elections...JFK was the last one
that won.

He sounds better than you know who.
But your right it's rare that they are succesful.
If you know who is their nominee the Republicans will turn out in droves.
Evan Bayh I'm not to sure about the turnout to oppose him.

[uppy]

The only Demo that I fear is Wesley Clark he is a clinton puppet.

[uppy]

He sounds better than you know who.
But your right it's rare that they are succesful.
If you know who is their nominee the Republicans will turn out in droves.
Evan Bayh I'm not to sure about the turnout to oppose him.

I hope you know who gets the demo nod.

[JLB]

The only Demo that I fear is Wesley Clark he is a clinton puppet.

If Hillary runs he will definately not be available.
Is everybody sure she's running.
I will be the first to say she doesn't run.
I've been wrong before although very rare.

:bbq2:

[JLB]

I hope you know who gets the demo nod.

If she runs she loses bigtime and her career is over IMO.

[BillsCAfan]

Well if Senators don't do well in presidential election thing is taken seriously, McCain, Allen and Frist for the Repubs wouldn't have a chance either.

As for Bayh, it won't matter. He has ran very successful elections in a very conservative state. He got more votes for senate in Indiana than Bush got for president in 2004. The midwest is the new south for the dems....and with Bayh dems will win Indiana, and will most likely win Iowa and Ohio, especially if Strickland wins the governors seat in Ohio, which he should since he is currently up by 13 points.

[nehemiah]

Russ Feingold.

real democrat runs this time around.

stop being a bunch of pussies, democrats.

[JLB]

Well if Senators don't do well in presidential election thing is taken seriously, McCain, Allen and Frist for the Repubs wouldn't have a chance either.

As for Bayh, it won't matter. He has ran very successful elections in a very conservative state. He got more votes for senate in Indiana than Bush got for president in 2004. The midwest is the new south for the dems....and with Bayh dems will win Indiana, and will most likely win Iowa and Ohio, especially if Strickland wins the governors seat in Ohio, which he should since he is currently up by 13 points.


I agree it will be tough.
Right now who knows.
Allen might be a little different.

Was he governor of Va.?

[uppy]

Russ Feingold.

real democrat runs this time around.

stop being a bunch of pussies, democrats.


Feingold is a good man...he has honor, I belive He voted to convict
Clinton in his impeachment

[nehemiah]

btw, i tell democrats to stop being pussies b/c they have a choice.

republicans don't... being a pussy is actually a requirement for membership in the republican party.

are you scared yet? terrorists, man.... go run and hide.

[BillsCAfan]

Feingold is a good man...he has honor, I belive He voted to convict
Clinton in his impeachment

ahh...upstart misinformed yet again....REALLY? Why am I not suprised.
Feingold voted to not dismiss the case against Clinton. He said that the prosecuters had every right to prove their case, and once he case was heard, Feingold voted against all charges brought on clinton.

However he is pushing for the censure of Bush, so yes, he has honor and is a good man.

[BillsCAfan]

btw, i tell democrats to stop being pussies b/c they have a choice.

republicans don't... being a pussy is actually a requirement for membership in the republican party.

are you scared yet? terrorists, man.... go run and hide.

Well I'm not a "true" democrat. Evan Bayh views are more alligned with mine. I don't blame the democrats who voted for the force on Iraq because the info and intel they had was falsified and they were lied to by the president. I can let that slide.

Feingold is a great senator and does have a good chance of winnig the primary. But honestly, I don't think a liberal jewish democrat from wisconsin can win a national campaign. The dems have to win 2 of the 4 states to win: Iowa, Ohio, Virginia and Florida. I don't know if Feingold can do it.

[uppy]

ahh...upstart misinformed yet again....REALLY? Why am I not suprised.
Feingold voted to not dismiss the case against Clinton. He said that the prosecuters had every right to prove their case, and once he case was heard, Feingold voted against all charges brought on clinton.



Thankyou for that info,I knew Feingold did something honorable.

[nehemiah]

Well I'm not a "true" democrat. Evan Bayh views are more alligned with mine. I don't blame the democrats who voted for the force on Iraq because the info and intel they had was falsified and they were lied to by the president. I can let that slide.

Feingold is a great senator and does have a good chance of winnig the primary. But honestly, I don't think a liberal jewish democrat from wisconsin can win a national campaign. The dems have to win 2 of the 4 states to win: Iowa, Ohio, Virginia and Florida. I don't know if Feingold can do it.IMO, "electability" is horseshit. run the honest guy and let him speak his mind. not saying evan bayh is a liar, but he's a neo-liberal and his economic ideas really plow my snakes.

this whole country is sick of republicans. lying-ass, criminal republicans. the only way to lose the white house is to be concerned about electability.

[BillsCAfan]

IMO, "electability" is horseshit. run the honest guy and let him speak his mind. not saying evan bayh is a liar, but he's a neo-liberal and his economic ideas really plow my snakes.

this whole country is sick of republicans. lying-ass, criminal republicans. the only way to lose the white house is to be concerned about electability.

Economically, Evan Bayh and Clinton are very very similar, and I like both their styles.

[JLB]

IMO, "electability" is horseshit. run the honest guy and let him speak his mind. not saying evan bayh is a liar, but he's a neo-liberal and his economic ideas really plow my snakes.

this whole country is sick of republicans. lying-ass, criminal republicans. the only way to lose the white house is to be concerned about electability.


Feingold would be difficult to debate IMO.

[shiva2999]

The only Demo that I fear is Wesley Clark he is a clinton puppet.

The Republicans fear Wes Clark more than anyone.

They'd kill him before they would allow him to be President.

[shiva2999]

IMO, "electability" is horseshit. run the honest guy and let him speak his mind. not saying evan bayh is a liar, but he's a neo-liberal and his economic ideas really plow my snakes.

this whole country is sick of republicans. lying-ass, criminal republicans. the only way to lose the white house is to be concerned about electability.

+1.

Evan Bayh and Mark Warner might as well be Republicans.

[BillsCAfan]

The Republicans fear Wes Clark more than anyone.

They'd kill him before they would allow him to be President.

Kerry made a lot of mistakes in 2004, but his biggest mistake was picking Edwards over Clark to be his running mate.

[JLB]

Has anyone chosen Hillary?
If not why?
Who would run with her?

[BillsCAfan]

+1.

Evan Bayh and Mark Warner might as well be Republicans.

The funny thing is that Evan Bayh doesn't consider himself a republican or a true democrate. He actually puts himself in the Third Way group instead of the traditional left-right debate.

But he sure as hell isn't republican.

Can you explain to me why you think he is republican?

Just because they were popular democrats in traditionally republican states, doesn't make the republican. They both remind of Bill Clinton if you ask me.

[shiva2999]

The funny thing is that Evan Bayh doesn't consider himself a republican or a true democrate. He actually puts himself in the Third Way group instead of the traditional left-right debate.

But he sure as hell isn't republican.

Can you explain to me why you think he is republican?

Just because they were popular democrats in traditionally republican states, doesn't make the republican. They both remind of Bill Clinton if you ask me.

Evan Bayh has just never impressed me. He looks like a Republican and sounds like a Republican.

Seems like a WASP Joe Lieberman to me.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/the-wimpy-empty-suits-und_b_15388.html

David Sirota

02.09.2006
The Wimpy Empty Suits Undermining Dems on National Security

I promised myself that on my vacation this week, I would try to block out politics, but in even briefly reading the newspapers from my vacation outpost, it becomes painfully clear why the Democratic Party is perceived so poorly throughout America: because for every courageous, stand-on-convictions Democrat out there, there are other wimpy empty suit Democrats running around undermining the party for their own personal gain - no matter how stupid, pathetic, hypocritical and weak they make themselves look in the process.

The case in point this week is Democratic Senator Evan Bayh (D). You remember Bayh - he's the stiff, corpse-impersonating guy from Indiana who likes to tell everyone what a great, strong, macho national security leader he is and what a supposedly "tough and smart" national security strategy he has. Every morning this week I have opened a new paper - USA Today, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times - and there is the smug, smiling Bayh making headlines running around the country with this "tough and smart" mantra, creating straw men in his own party that he says are "afraid" of national security, and essentially regurgitating Fox News talking points about Democrats supposedly being "weak" on security. Adding insult to injury, this sententious, chest-thumping, just-bomb-em-all-back-to-the-stone-ages lecture aimed at courageous war critics like Marine veteran Jack Murtha comes from the privileged son of a Senator who has never had to serve in a combat area and who unapologetically voted for the Iraq War - a war which Americans believe has severely weakened U.S. national security.

The pathetic nature of Bayh's behavior is two-pronged. First, from a political perspective, Bayh thinks he is making himself look "tough." In fact, he is making himself - and the party he claims to care about - look like a cowering, wimpy, whiney, gutless coward. He is behaving like a kid who was beaten up on the schoolyard, and now is so emotionally damaged by that treatment, he feels the need to run around as an adult telling everyone what a wimp he and his party is - when in fact its just not true.

...more...

[BillsCAfan]

Evan Bayh has just never impressed me. He looks like a Republican and sounds like a Republican.

Seems like a WASP Joe Lieberman to me.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/the-wimpy-empty-suits-und_b_15388.html

David Sirota

02.09.2006
The Wimpy Empty Suits Undermining Dems on National Security

I promised myself that on my vacation this week, I would try to block out politics, but in even briefly reading the newspapers from my vacation outpost, it becomes painfully clear why the Democratic Party is perceived so poorly throughout America: because for every courageous, stand-on-convictions Democrat out there, there are other wimpy empty suit Democrats running around undermining the party for their own personal gain - no matter how stupid, pathetic, hypocritical and weak they make themselves look in the process.

The case in point this week is Democratic Senator Evan Bayh (D). You remember Bayh - he's the stiff, corpse-impersonating guy from Indiana who likes to tell everyone what a great, strong, macho national security leader he is and what a supposedly "tough and smart" national security strategy he has. Every morning this week I have opened a new paper - USA Today, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times - and there is the smug, smiling Bayh making headlines running around the country with this "tough and smart" mantra, creating straw men in his own party that he says are "afraid" of national security, and essentially regurgitating Fox News talking points about Democrats supposedly being "weak" on security. Adding insult to injury, this sententious, chest-thumping, just-bomb-em-all-back-to-the-stone-ages lecture aimed at courageous war critics like Marine veteran Jack Murtha comes from the privileged son of a Senator who has never had to serve in a combat area and who unapologetically voted for the Iraq War - a war which Americans believe has severely weakened U.S. national security.

The pathetic nature of Bayh's behavior is two-pronged. First, from a political perspective, Bayh thinks he is making himself look "tough." In fact, he is making himself - and the party he claims to care about - look like a cowering, wimpy, whiney, gutless coward. He is behaving like a kid who was beaten up on the schoolyard, and now is so emotionally damaged by that treatment, he feels the need to run around as an adult telling everyone what a wimp he and his party is - when in fact its just not true.

...more...

Well that is one opinion of one guy. I could start a website and be on Bayh jock, would that then be justified to change your opinion of him.

Evan Bayh is pro public education, he is for stem cell research, he is for protecting the woman's right to abortion with restrictions on late term abortions, he is also for educating young people on the dangers of STDs and pregnancy, but by approach that equally emphasizes contraceptives. He is also a pro union guy, he is also for a tigher gun control laws, he is also pro-protecting the environment...like preventing oil drilling in wildlife reserves and he recognizes the effects of global warming. His voting record is more anti-corporate than it is pro-business, but it's pretty mixed...and the list goes on. He isn't leftist liberal by any stretch of the imagination. He isn't the best candidate, but he shares many of the values I share with republicans and this is why I like him.

But we'll see what happens.

Just out of curiousity, who would you want running as the dem's candidate?

[Stealth01]

He voted for using force on Iraq, but voted no on a timetable to bring troops home the last time Kerry brought up the bill.

The reason why I think Bayh will win the presidency is because he is tremendously popular in Indiana. As a dem he had the highest job approval rating of any governor in Indiana...almost need 80% level. He is currently a senator in Indiana and still VERY popular. He will win Indiana, and has the absolute best chance among all Dems of winning Ohio, Iowa, Virginia and Missouri.

Good post. I'd never heard of this guy. Will have to check him out. I'd vote for just about anyone over Kerry or Jeb.

[ckg68]

How about a Bayh-Clark ticket,if it comes to pass?

You cover the Midwest(as BillsCA has noted)and the South.

[BillsCAfan]

How about a Bayh-Clark ticket,if it comes to pass?

You cover the Midwest(as BillsCA has noted)and the South.

Bayh-Clark would be a great ticket, because having the military background of someone like Clark would be beneficial, however, I think Clark would be better used if he was appointed secretary of defense if dems get elected.

I think a Bayh-Warner ticket would be put the dems in the white house. I am very very certain of that. That ticket will bring Indiana and Virginia to the dems side which alone should be enough, but I think Iowa and Ohio will sure to follow. That ticket will be as powerful as a Clinton-Gore ticket in a general election.

[JLB]

Has anyone chosen Hillary?
If not why?
Who would run with her?


ANYBODY FOR HILLARY?

ANYBODY AGAINST HILLARY?

[Stealth01]

I would push needles into my testicles before voting for Hillary. She's an ice-bitch who changes her stance on things in order to get votes or because the polls tell her to.

[sukie]

thinking of things I would do prior to voting to Hillary and it's a long list but the list ends at impailing my testicles with needles.

[JLB]

ANYBODY FOR HILLARY?

ANYBODY AGAINST HILLARY?


Anyone with more to add these guys are certainly negative.

Needles in the balls and all that sounds pretty bad.

[shiva2999]

Well that is one opinion of one guy. I could start a website and be on Bayh jock, would that then be justified to change your opinion of him.

Evan Bayh is pro public education, he is for stem cell research, he is for protecting the woman's right to abortion with restrictions on late term abortions, he is also for educating young people on the dangers of STDs and pregnancy, but by approach that equally emphasizes contraceptives. He is also a pro union guy, he is also for a tigher gun control laws, he is also pro-protecting the environment...like preventing oil drilling in wildlife reserves and he recognizes the effects of global warming. His voting record is more anti-corporate than it is pro-business, but it's pretty mixed...and the list goes on. He isn't leftist liberal by any stretch of the imagination. He isn't the best candidate, but he shares many of the values I share with republicans and this is why I like him.

But we'll see what happens.

Just out of curiousity, who would you want running as the dem's candidate?

I just posted that article because it outlined some of the things that bug me about Bayh that I was too lazy to write myself.

I'm sure you know my views. I don't think there is a left in America.

I think as long as the center right and the right wings of the Democratic Party ignore the center in favor of acting like Republicans, the real republicans will win every time.

I would like to see the Dems run Wes Clark.

For a ton of different reasons, I think he'd be the best guy to get your country back on track.

[notacon]

I would vote for Senator Clinton in a heartbeat, I think that she is the strongest leader of the (rumored) aspiring Democratic candidates. I love the ideas and rhetoric of Barack Obama. He is the future of the Democratic Party.

I also like John Edwards’ positive message and Governor Richardson…Richardson has the most experience with foreign policy to start to fix the abysmal mess that Bush will leave the country in.

Clark is a great American and I would vote for him too.

[uppy]

Give me Hillary before Clark

[uppy]

Richardson has issues from the time he headed up the DOE...the GOP will make a point that He let the Chi-coms run free at Los Alamos Nuclear Lab. Hurting the Security of the US.

The other demos might bring up this issue to knock him out in their primarys

[BillsCAfan]

I just posted that article because it outlined some of the things that bug me about Bayh that I was too lazy to write myself.

I'm sure you know my views. I don't think there is a left in America.

I think as long as the center right and the right wings of the Democratic Party ignore the center in favor of acting like Republicans, the real republicans will win every time.

I would like to see the Dems run Wes Clark.

For a ton of different reasons, I think he'd be the best guy to get your country back on track.

I like Clark, and like I said before, Kerry's biggest mistake was not picking him as his runningmate. The only problem with Clark is his lack of political experience which he will get nailed on during the campaign. He also has the same characteristics of Kerry when it comes to being a charasmatic candidate.

I personally would welcome Clark, but again, I think the US would be much better off having Clark on a democratic cabinet as Sec. of Defense.

[JLB]

I like Clark, and like I said before, Kerry's biggest mistake was not picking him as his runningmate. The only problem with Clark is his lack of political experience which he will get nailed on during the campaign. He also has the same characteristics of Kerry when it comes to being a charasmatic candidate.

I personally would welcome Clark, but again, I think the US would be much better off having Clark on a democratic cabinet as Sec. of Defense.




So who's at the top of your ticket after everything is said and done?

[JLB]

I would vote for Senator Clinton in a heartbeat, I think that she is the strongest leader of the (rumored) aspiring Democratic candidates. I love the ideas and rhetoric of Barack Obama. He is the future of the Democratic Party.

I also like John Edwards’ positive message and Governor Richardson…Richardson has the most experience with foreign policy to start to fix the abysmal mess that Bush will leave the country in.

Clark is a great American and I would vote for him too.


Therefore is Hillary at the top of your ticket?
Or someone that has not been mentioned?

[BillsCAfan]

So who's at the top of your ticket after everything is said and done?

I would put Bayh and Warner on my ideal ticket. Honestly, I'd like Bayh to be the presidential candidate, but a Bayh-Warner or a Warner-Bayh ticket would make no difference to me.

[JLB]

I would put Bayh and Warner on my ideal ticket. Honestly, I'd like Bayh to be the presidential candidate, but a Bayh-Warner or a Warner-Bayh ticket would make no difference to me.



They sound good for the many reasons you gave earlier.
I was watching your responses to others.
To see if you would stick and to your credit you did.

[coastal]

Wes Clark is the best candidate but totally unelectable unless America has a lobotomy.

[shiva2999]

I like Clark, and like I said before, Kerry's biggest mistake was not picking him as his runningmate. The only problem with Clark is his lack of political experience which he will get nailed on during the campaign. He also has the same characteristics of Kerry when it comes to being a charasmatic candidate.

I personally would welcome Clark, but again, I think the US would be much better off having Clark on a democratic cabinet as Sec. of Defense.

One of the reasons I like Clark is he's the only guy IMO that can take on the military.

But that has to happen on a policy level.

As Sec of Def he'd just be carrying out policy, not creating it

As far as I can see, we in the Western World are ****ed as long as we accept the central myth Bushco has created, ie. crazy Muslims want to kill us.

The War on Terror is entirely bogus and yet it drives virtually all our attitudes today.

Like a big ****ing cancerous tumor eating away at the heart of our societies.

Clark knows this and Bushco knows he knows it.

[coastal]

ie. crazy Muslims want to kill us.
Some lunatic gave me "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" by Michael Savage.

The opener states that "The rise of Islamo-fascism is the number one problem America must face today."

I can't believe people buy that shit.

[jimmifli]

Some lunatic gave me "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" by Michael Savage.

Did you sleep with her?

[coastal]

Did you sleep with her?
yup.

[notacon]

Therefore is Hillary at the top of your ticket?
Or someone that has not been mentioned?

MUCH too early. I do not decide over two years before an election.

[JLB]

MUCH too early. I do not decide over two years before an election.

I agree anything can happen.
Is there somebody you wish would throw their hat in?

[JLB]

Anybody think Joe Biden should be on the top of the ticket?

[uppy]

yup.

Best pice of ass you ever had...she will save you.

[shiva2999]

Anybody think Joe Biden should be on the top of the ticket?

Joe Biden is a weakling.

[ckg68]

Anybody think Joe Biden should be on the top of the ticket?

HELL,NO!

[JLB]

Joe Biden is a weakling.


Not sure but didn't he try before maybe not.
He is from Delaware.
Not to many electoral votes.
Is he noted for anything in particular as a Senator?
Is he considered weak on defense is that what you mean by weakling?

[BillsCAfan]

Anybody think Joe Biden should be on the top of the ticket?

Joe Biden would make another good cabinet candidate, but as the presidential candidate......no chance.

Another name that will come up as we get closer to primary time will be Ed Rendell.

He is an intriguing candidate.

[JLB]

Joe Biden is a weakling.

Great avatar you just got that.
The one you had was good.

Who was the last character?

[JLB]

HELL,NO!


Thats two against Biden.

[JLB]

Joe Biden would make another good cabinet candidate, but as the presidential candidate......no chance.

Another name that will come up as we get closer to primary time will be Ed Rendell.

He is an intriguing candidate.


You make three Joe's out.
Ed Rendell is very interesting first mention of him.
Pennsylvania lots of electoral clout.

[shiva2999]

Great avatar you just got that.
The one you had was good.

Who was the last character?

Seth Bullock. From Etobicoke, like me.

[JLB]

Seth Bullock. From Etobicoke, like me.

Looked like a character from Tombstone great movie.

[shiva2999]

Looked like a character from Tombstone great movie.

Deadwood.

[JLB]

Looked like a character from Tombstone great movie.


Google seth got this guy.


http://www.usmarshals.gov/district/sd/pages/profiles/sb/bullock.gif


Timothy Olyphant played Seth I see

[shiva2999]

Google seth got this guy.


http://www.usmarshals.gov/district/sd/pages/profiles/sb/bullock.gif

That's the original.

[JLB]

Deadwood is it good.


http://www.moviecitynews.com/static_images/images/2005/200x300/deadwood.jpg

[Dontdieman]

I came in on this thread but I think Howard Dean.

Besides the whole....you know, Hes Highly Qualified Smart and I would think do the best job

[JLB]

I came in on this thread but I think Howard Dean.

Besides the whole....you know, Hes Highly Qualified Smart and I would think do the best job




First vote for Howard who for running mate?

[shiva2999]

Deadwood is it good.


http://www.moviecitynews.com/static_images/images/2005/200x300/deadwood.jpg

Amazing.

You can rent the first two seasons at the video store.

[JLB]

Amazing.

You can rent the first two seasons at the video store.


Gonna check it out like the era. Looks like by what their wearing I'd like it.
Old West is that accurate?

[shiva2999]

Gonna check it out like the era. Looks like by what their wearing I'd like it.
Old West is that accurate?

Yup. That's Keith Carradine as Wild Bill Hickock next to Bullock in that pic.

[ckg68]

And,just like TV,they kill a good series just when it's getting good. While crap proliferates.

Can we all say HBO are :censor:suckers for basically killing the show?

As far as Olyphant: wasn't he born in the States? Honolulu,if I remember right.

[JLB]

Yup. That's Keith Carradine as Wild Bill Hickock next to Bullock in that pic.

I will like it I had Wild Bill as my avatar before Chris Farley.
Thanks for the info.
Gotta hit the hay have a good night.

[shiva2999]

And,just like TV,they kill a good series just when it's getting good. While crap proliferates.

Can we all say HBO are :censor:suckers for basically killing the show?

As far as Olyphant: wasn't he born in the States? Honolulu,if I remember right.

It's a tough and expensive series to do.

36 hours is like 18 feature films. In three years, that's a lot of work.

The real Seth Bullock was from Etobicoke.

Now a Toronto suburb.

[JLB]

And,just like TV,they kill a good series just when it's getting good. While crap proliferates.

Can we all say HBO are :censor:suckers for basically killing the show?

As far as Olyphant: wasn't he born in the States? Honolulu,if I remember right.



Timothy Olyphant (born May 20, 1968 in Honolulu, Hawaii) is an American actor. Although mostly a film actor, Olyphant currently stars on the HBO series Deadwood as sheriff Seth Bullock.


Gotta hit the hay have a good one guys.

[BillsCAfan]

I came in on this thread but I think Howard Dean.

Besides the whole....you know, Hes Highly Qualified Smart and I would think do the best job

I really hope you are kidding. I don't even like him running the party let along being the presidential candidate.

[Mouldsie]

Wes Clark pwns

[anEinherjer]

I saw NWF started this thread and though the title was asking for the most edible Democrat. I couldn't think of any.


Deadwood is about the best show on TV right now, will agree with anyone on that one. Al Swearengen's the best character and the actor that plays him is absolutely brilliant. Seth Bullock just has anger management issues.....

[JLB]

A little news about Evan Bayh.


Trying to get the link.

http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/7/8/210632.shtml?s=ic


He doesn't sound to bad.

[coastal]

I could never figure out why Biden never got the nod.

He's gotta have a little boy or bad $$$ deal in his closet.

[sukie]

I think the brain tumor undid Biden when he was running before or shortly after he withdrew.

[Papaduke]

Bill Richardson, Governor of New Mexico.
Very Popular Hispanic Governor of very marginal Red State in 2004 with a large democratic voter registration advantage.
Could galvanize Hispanic support in Southwest and could tip states like Colorado and Arizona into the Democrats column.
Is not a Senator.
Was UN Ambassador and noted for his skills as a negotiator, so he has foreign affairs experience.
Ran the Department of Energy so he has familiarity with the Energy issues of the United States.

Minus: Ran the Department of Energy during Wen Ho Lee fiasco.

[Papaduke]

I could never figure out why Biden never got the nod.

He's gotta have a little boy or bad $$$ deal in his closet.


Biden flopped because he has a propensity to rip off British Labour Party Speeches and for making comments like "You can't enter a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts without an Indian Accent" to an Indian-American on shows like Road to the White House. http://video.nationaljournal.com/Monday/BidenIndian.mov

[BillsCAfan]

Bill Richardson, Governor of New Mexico.
Very Popular Hispanic Governor of very marginal Red State in 2004 with a large democratic voter registration advantage.
Could galvanize Hispanic support in Southwest and could tip states like Colorado and Arizona into the Democrats column.
Is not a Senator.
Was UN Ambassador and noted for his skills as a negotiator, so he has foreign affairs experience.
Ran the Department of Energy so he has familiarity with the Energy issues of the United States.

Minus: Ran the Department of Energy during Wen Ho Lee fiasco.

The southwest is a wash if McCain runs. He will run the table on Arizona (obviously), New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado. Bayh and Warner can take the midwest away from McCain though and tip the scales towards the dems in the general.

With Richardson, we might get New Mexco, but that would be it in the region, and for 5 electoral votes?

Indiana has 11 electoral votes, Virginia 13, Iowa 7 and Ohio with 20. Thats 51 electoral votes that the went to the Repubs in 2004. All of those can be won over by the dems by running Bayh/Warner. This combo of moderate midwest/souther boys will win the white house. Richardson no good.

[JLB]

Biden flopped because he has a propensity to rip off British Labour Party Speeches and for making comments like "You can't enter a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts without an Indian Accent" to an Indian-American on shows like Road to the White House. http://video.nationaljournal.com/Monday/BidenIndian.mov

And to finish that quote he went on to say."I'm not kidding"

Duh!!

[JoeMama]

I'd love an Al Gore - Barack Obama ticket.

[BillsCAfan]

I'd love an Al Gore - Barack Obama ticket.

Gore and Kerry are worn out.

Barrack Obama has a great future and is on his way to making history by possiblity becoming the first african american president. For that reason, he should be wise where he invests his time, and running in 08 with Gore wont' do him much good.

[JoeMama]

Barrack Obama has a great future and is on his way to making history by possiblity becoming the first african american president. For that reason, he should be wise where he invests his time, and running in 08 with Gore wont' do him much good.

If the Dems screw up & lose in 2008, I'm pinning all my hopes on Barack Obama in 2012.

Your boy, Evan Bayh, looks like a winner though.