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CupCrazy

July 8th, 2006, 1:10:06 PM

Carl J. Ironsides

July 8th, 2006, 1:18:01 PM

I'm pretty sure it was an issue with waivers. The Sabres didn't have much of a choice.

shotgun

July 8th, 2006, 2:54:14 PM

he is grabage why the hell would u even want him around

SHINEdown30

July 8th, 2006, 3:01:48 PM

Another disappointing development for the Sabres franchise as a whole.

:rolleyes2

buffalofan19

July 8th, 2006, 3:10:56 PM

Another disappointing development for the Sabres franchise as a whole. This will definitely hurt the Amerks.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060708/SPORTS0101/607080311/-1/COLUMNS

How much was this guy making that the Sabres couldn't afford to keep him around??
It wasn't so much the money as the roster spot. Because the Sabres are splitting the Amerks with Florida, they are only allowed something like 11 roster spots. With draft picks like Stafford et al. coming in, they probably need to clear room.

Hockeystud1414

July 8th, 2006, 3:29:31 PM

Another disappointing development for the Sabres franchise as a whole. This will definitely hurt the Amerks.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060708/SPORTS0101/607080311/-1/COLUMNS

How much was this guy making that the Sabres couldn't afford to keep him around??
Believe it or not, there are rumors going around that he may sign with the Amerks top rivals, the Syracuse Crunch! Well, he did want to play for Gary Agnew here but Agnew just got promoted to the parent Columbus Blue Jackets, so who really knoiws what he's thinking at this point.

Hockeystud1414

July 8th, 2006, 3:31:59 PM

It wasn't so much the money as the roster spot. Because the Sabres are splitting the Amerks with Florida, they are only allowed something like 11 roster spots. With draft picks like Stafford et al. coming in, they probably need to clear room.
Not so much of that than the ahl veteran rule! Anyone not familiar with that? Well ahl teams may only dress 4 vets now, so there may not be any room for Taylor. Does anyone see Jeff Jillson staying in Buffalo or getting moved? He counts as a vet.....Not sure how many vets the panthers have, but there may not be any room. 7 years with one team is a long time anyways.....

Scary Good

July 8th, 2006, 4:06:23 PM

Wow I'm heartbroken...oh wait

Hockeystud1414

July 8th, 2006, 4:54:11 PM

I remember how much Roby loved this guy...taylor is a good hockey player and a decent checking center in the nhl, but more of a minor-leaguer.

Carl J. Ironsides

July 8th, 2006, 4:58:57 PM

Chris Taylor is to the Buffalo Sabres as Jeff Manto (ex-Bison) was to the Cleveland Indians.

Two great minor-leaguers who couldn't make it in the pros.

two4trippn

July 8th, 2006, 8:37:44 PM

He's a career AHL with zero NHL contributing talents remaining - it happens.

SabresFan220

July 8th, 2006, 8:51:23 PM

Taylor wasn't an NHL player, but he was important to the Amerks and helping develop our young players. Screw Florida, why the hell do they have any right to infringe on our AHL affiliate? Are we getting any sort of compensation from them for allowing them to learn under our coaches? Sure they have some top notch players coming from high draft picks, but the Amerks weren't even a playoff team last year, I guess they helped so much. Were Miller, Roy, Gaustad, and Pommer really the entire team last season? The Amerks were the best team in the AHL during the lockout, then they drop out of the playoffs. I remember reading about how Florida lost their affiliation with their old AHL club because they pissed them off. As I recall, Jay Boumeester and Nathan Horton were sent down to the AHL after the season ended to "gain playoff experience," unfortunately their team was nowhere near the playoffs. That sounds like the Panthers' own fault, no reason why the Sabres should be making up for their poor management's mistakes.

CupCrazy

July 8th, 2006, 10:07:49 PM

It wasn't so much the money as the roster spot. Because the Sabres are splitting the Amerks with Florida, they are only allowed something like 11 roster spots. With draft picks like Stafford et al. coming in, they probably need to clear room.
Ahhh...I forgot about that stupid deal. Okay, that makes sense...still a shame, but I get it.

CupCrazy

July 8th, 2006, 10:16:08 PM

Not so much of that than the ahl veteran rule! Anyone not familiar with that? Well ahl teams may only dress 4 vets now, so there may not be any room for Taylor.
Wow...I did not know about that...though I haven't followed the AHL as much since the lockout ended. :) What do they consider an AHL "vet"?

Does anyone see Jeff Jillson staying in Buffalo or getting moved? He counts as a vet.....Not sure how many vets the panthers have, but there may not be any room. 7 years with one team is a long time anyways.....
I don't see Jillson being much of anything except a big disappointment. The thing with him is, I think it's all mental...he's got the skills, but just doesn't consistently give 100% every game. I would trade him in an instant...even if it was for Curtis Brown to come back to Buffalo.

CupCrazy

July 8th, 2006, 10:21:22 PM

I remember how much Roby loved this guy...taylor is a good hockey player and a decent checking center in the nhl, but more of a minor-leaguer.
Exactly. He'll never be an NHLer, but he served a very important role in Rochester as a leader and teacher. We send young draft picks to Rochester to learn what it means to be a pro athlete...THAT's what Chris Taylor was there for.

He knew his role and he was very good at it. I'm not sure if the Sabres/Amerks have anyone to fill that void now. Too bad.

ckg68

July 8th, 2006, 10:26:28 PM

CupCrazy: I think it has something to do with how many pro games you've played in,regardless of the league. Most of the minor pro leagues have something similar to that in their rulebook.

The ECHL limits each team to 4 veterans-defined as someone who has played 260 regular season games of professional hockey.

http://www.echl.com/faq.shtml explains it a bit better.

The UHL limits it to 7 veterans(classified as anyone who's played 300 games;a goalie gets the designation if he has 18,000 minutes or more in goal).

TRIPLE P

July 9th, 2006, 11:23:30 AM

Chris Taylor? Who gives a shit about Chris Taylor? seriously...he played OK when he was called up a few times a few years ago but c'mon....

The guy isn't "new nhl" material, he isn't in the Sabres plans, he was never a regular nhl player.... if you haven't got value, you don't stick around.

Hockeystud1414

July 9th, 2006, 12:10:16 PM

Wow...I did not know about that...though I haven't followed the AHL as much since the lockout ended. :) What do they consider an AHL "vet"?

Last time I checked it was 260 AHL, IHL, euro, NHL, ect. games. The rule could very well have changed since then.

Hockeystud1414

July 9th, 2006, 12:20:42 PM

CupCrazy

July 9th, 2006, 4:12:20 PM

Chris Taylor? Who gives a shit about Chris Taylor? ... The guy isn't "new nhl" material, he isn't in the Sabres plans, he was never a regular nhl player.... if you haven't got value, you don't stick around.
He hasn't been part of the Sabres' NHL plans for a long time...but he was an important part of the organization.

Remember all those great players that we pulled from Rochester last year? That didn't just happen on it's own...those guys had veteran leadership teaching them how to play the game and how to behave like a pro athlete. Chris Taylor was one of the teachers...losing him will have an effect on the franchise as a whole.

Carl J. Ironsides

July 9th, 2006, 4:15:09 PM

He hasn't been part of the Sabres' NHL plans for a long time...but he was an important part of the organization.

Remember all those great players that we pulled from Rochester last year? That didn't just happen on it's own...those guys had veteran leadership teaching them how to play the game and how to behave like a pro athlete. Chris Taylor was one of the teachers...losing him will have an effect on the franchise as a whole.

You're getting a little melodramatic here. An impact on the franchise as a whole is a pretty large stretch. The guy's not Steve Yzerman, he's Chris Taylor.

Pondslider

July 9th, 2006, 8:14:01 PM

You're getting a little melodramatic here. An impact on the franchise as a whole is a pretty large stretch. The guy's not Steve Yzerman, he's Chris Taylor.

And I wonder how guys like Gaustad, Pominville, and Roy were helped by having a veteran like Chris Taylor in Rochester to learn from. You don't have to be Steve Yzerman to be important to a franchise.

Carl J. Ironsides

July 9th, 2006, 8:25:50 PM

And I wonder how guys like Gaustad, Pominville, and Roy were helped by having a veteran like Chris Taylor in Rochester to learn from. You don't have to be Steve Yzerman to be important to a franchise.

Maybe so, but I just think the earlier statement was a stretch. Let's not crucify the organization for not having a choice in this matter. They didn't have the roster spots. Who would you rather keep? Nathan Paetsch or Chris Taylor? Come on.

Pondslider

July 9th, 2006, 10:09:22 PM

Maybe so, but I just think the earlier statement was a stretch. Let's not crucify the organization for not having a choice in this matter. They didn't have the roster spots. Who would you rather keep? Nathan Paetsch or Chris Taylor? Come on.

That's fine, but it's not making any fans in Rochester. Moves like this and letting Dominic Pittis go, and letting Tom Askey, another fan favorite, go to Europe last year show the fans and the players that they have no commitment to winning. Two years ago the Amerks had a great team and fell in the playoffs because of injuries. (sound familiar?) Players like Roy, Pominville, Gaustad, Vanek, Paille, and Miller came together and were a big part of that. Going through that together was important to their development as a team in Buffalo. A good minor league system is important to the success of the future. That's why minor league veterans are good for teams. I understand the Sabres have a bottomline, but it's not going to help the future of the team to have Rochester unstable. I guess that's the saddest part. That the affiliation with Rochester that used to be so close seems to be falling apart. Chris Taylor not being an Amerk isn't going keep the Sabres out of the playoffs this year, but I'm sure it would have helped Drew Stafford and the other rookies.

CupCrazy

July 9th, 2006, 11:18:21 PM

Maybe so, but I just think the earlier statement was a stretch. Let's not crucify the organization for not having a choice in this matter. They didn't have the roster spots. Who would you rather keep? Nathan Paetsch or Chris Taylor? Come on.
Nobody's suggesting that Taylor was a linch-pin to the Sabres and now it's all gonna fall apart without him...I'm just saying that the Sabres have a lot of potentially great young players coming to Rochester and they may not develop as quickly without a leader like Taylor.

What this all comes down to is...why was this deal to split the Amerks roster made in the first place? The Sabres had a beautiful arrangement with their AHL farm team an hour down the road...I think it was a mistake to dillute that by sharing Rochester with the Panthers. I guess it was a financial thing...as usual.

itslonganditsgood

July 10th, 2006, 6:09:27 AM

The Sabres/Amerks have a bunch of good young players coming to play in Rochester, they probably needed the room. Just think about it, you will probably have Dylan Hunter, Patrick Koleta, Drew Stafford, Marek Zagrapan, Clark McCarthur, and Mark Mankare all starting there this year and there are a couple others that might also.

stuuuuuuuuuuu

July 10th, 2006, 8:01:03 AM

Rochester is an affiliate, but its not owned by Golisano. They are free to keep/ take whatever they can get from each franchise. That being said I think the AMerk/Sabre relationship has been rocky these past years to say the least. I don't blame the Amerks owner for signing a deal with the Panthers organization just in case the Sabres AMerks relationship goes sour.

ricogarion

July 10th, 2006, 8:07:56 AM

Sabres and their owner are responsible to Rochester to do what they can to keep that franchise competitive. At the same time its tough being a farm club cause you never feel the parent team is doing enough to provide a quality club on the field or ice.Taylor should have been a given for that club but the Sabres may be maxed out in roster spots as it seems a lot of youngsters will be on this roster come September.