Rove... No Charges. (Plans celebration in Philly)

[sukie]

Karl Rove won't face charges in CIA leak probe

Last Updated Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:57:04 EDT
CBC News

Top White House aide Karl Rove will not be charged in an investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity, his lawyer said Tuesday.

"On June 12, 2006, special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald formally advised us that he does not anticipate seeking charges against Karl Rove," said Robert Luskin in a statement.

Luskin said Fitzgerald's decision should "put an end to the baseless speculation about Mr. Rove's conduct."

For 22 months, Fitzgerald and a grand jury have been trying to determine who told journalists that Valerie Plame was a covert operative for the Central Intelligence Agency.

Federal law in the U.S. makes it illegal to identify such CIA employees.

Plame's name was leaked to reporters in 2003 after her husband, former ambassador Joe Wilson, publicly criticized the Bush administration's handling of the war in Iraq.

Fitzgerald's probe had zeroed in on Rove, President George W. Bush's top political strategist, and Lewis (Scooter) Libby, Vice-President Dick Cheney's chief of staff.

...more...
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/06/13/rove-cia.html

:arizona: :arizona: :arizona: :arizona: :arizona: :arizona:

[JLB]

:arizona: :arizona: :arizona: You beat me to it just started the read.
Yeah I heard it would be in Philly.
Parade at 4:00 pm Yeah !!! :arizona: :arizona: :arizona: This restores faith in the justice system you guys know what I mean???

[uppy]

A leftie witch hunt down in flames


life is good.

[TRIPLE P]

I hope he gets hit by a truck.

[Meathead]

yeah its great when a traitor to america gets off

you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. im sure ashamed of you

[sukie]

Traitor? What traitor? admit it... you were wrong. The witch hunt failed... Again.

[uppy]

Witch hunt

[pmoon6]

Is King Nehemiah going to be the parade's Grand Marshal? I know at least he will be in attendance to celebrate this triumph of American Justice.:D

[uppy]

The King will be pissed.....LOL

[sukie]

He loves parades.

He also doesn't lose an chips from his silly Rove Indictment Bet thread...
http://buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=88453&highlight=Karl+Rove

[sukie]

http://www.steubenparade.com/images/parade/parade-map-pre2004.gif

[JLB]

Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:54 a.m. EDT
'Fitzmas in July' Canceled, Dems Distraught





Rove Won't Be Charged in CIA Leak Case
'Fitzmas' Canceled, Dems Distraught
Bil Clinton: U.S. Should Not Pull Out of Iraq


Democrats are distraught over reports that Leakgate Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has decided not to indict senior White House advisor Karl Rove.

A sampling of liberal web sites shortly after the news was announced Tuesday morning featured reaction ranging from disbelief to denial to the desperate hope that Rove has turned states evidence against Vice President Dick Cheney.

From Newsmax.com

[sukie]

:rofl:

[Meathead]

everyone knows what he tried to do. he just got away with it. hes still a traitor to america and so is anybody that supports him

[JLB]

:rofl: You can check out anytime you like but you can never leave.

[nehemiah]

this thread is going to be hilarious when rove hits the witness stand, eh?

:rofl:

[nehemiah]

also, btw, it's nice to have a prosecutor who doesn't go off on wild goose chases, eh? unlike the joke of a prosecutor in the lewinsky case.

it's called "class", "competence", and "integrity", boys. republicans have none of those things. Fitz, on the other hand, has massive amounts of all three.

:clapper:

[sukie]

still grasping afterall. good for you and hogeboom

[nehemiah]

still grasping afterall. good for you and hogeboomit's funny that you cheer for the fat, rich, white guy that gets off. but you rant and rave about the other guys who get thrown in jail for some bull****.

it must be nice to be like that. makes life so easy. now, i'm not calling you a hypocrite... but your foot is the perfect size for that shoe.

:duel:

[sukie]

rant and rave when?

[Gibby]

I hope he gets hit by a truck.

Let me call a few friends I just might be able to have that arranged of course I might be posting from Gitmo if I can pull it off. :D

[sukie]

it's funny that you cheer for the fat, rich, white guy that gets off. but you rant and rave about the other guys who get thrown in jail for some bull****.

it must be nice to be like that. makes life so easy. now, i'm not calling you a hypocrite... but your foot is the perfect size for that shoe.

:duel:
I cheer that you are disappointed. If there was enough... Rove would have been indicted. Awwww so sorry. Don't miss the parade. i included the parade route for easy reference.

[nehemiah]

i'm not disappointed. i am not into railroading people. i'm not a republican.

but... if you think this is the end of it - you're crazy.

#1 it was rove's atty that released the info. not Fitz.
#2 check the language "does not anticipate filing", not "will not file" - seems highly likely that rove has agreed to testify to certain stuff... if he ****s with Fitz - you can be sure that charges will be filed.

so have your little party. enjoy it while it lasts.

:rockon: to rove's atty!

[sukie]

Innocence is ugly to you lefties... that is if it is a Reub that is innocent.

[nehemiah]

you make-a-no sense.

[sukie]

You relish the witch hunt.

[JLB]

this thread is going to be hilarious when rove hits the witness stand, eh?

:rofl:

Its already hilarious.
But you guys really don't think he is in any trouble.
Your upset because he is doing a fine job right?:rofl:

[nehemiah]

You relish the witch hunt.you'll excuse me if i laugh?

:rofl:

you are not a fan of justice. you are the witch-hunter extraordinaire.

fo' da record --> all of you [:::] who post about monica lewinsky can now do 2 things: (1) admit that you're a bunch of hypocrites or (2) STFU.

have a nice day. i have to go to the "rove release" rally. :D

[sukie]

Lewinsky broke no laws. Neither did Rove. Oops... look down Nehe... your clutched straws yeilded a dropsy.

[pmoon6]

Nehe makes a good point, it is unclear whether Rove is guilty, but the same thing applies in Clinton's case. They both used their power to shield themselves.

[JLB]

Clinton wow he sure did try to use that power but IMO he still lost.
When you have to appear on national television lie to the country then return and admit you lied. Then get your arse impeached I think he lost a little more than Karl Rove. He was the President he lost much more and so did this country. IMHO

[nehemiah]

talkleft is reporting that rove made no deal. he is walking completely clean. talkleft has been wrong before, but not often. :dunno:

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/015080.html

[uppy]

Clinton wow he sure did try to use that power but IMO he still lost.
When you have to appear on national television lie to the country then return and admit you lied. Then get your arse impeached I think he lost a little more than Karl Rove. He was the President he lost much more and so did this country. IMHO


Don't forget he was disbarred by the USSC as well and can't sit on the
board of directors, also called board of trustees, board of governors, board of managers of any public company in America....like honest GOP X-Prez's do
and rake in the big bucks.....why?

Because Disbarred Lawyers are not allowed ......LMAO

[JLB]

Don't forget he was disbarred by the USSC as well and can't sit on the
board of directors, also called board of trustees, board of governors, board of managers of any public company in America....like honest GOP X-Prez's do
and rake in the big bucks.....why?

Because Disbarred Lawyers are not allowed ......LMAO


Thanks for the reminder. He certainly lost a little more than old Karl Rove did now didn't he. Thank You Upstart. I am a LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER TODAY!!
Heavy meds kicking my arse freakin poison oak or ivy. You take 8 pills day one 7 the next and so on. I just took the 8 so not up to par yet.
:arizona: :arizona:

[uppy]

He loves parades.

He also doesn't lose an chips from his silly Rove Indictment Bet thread...
http://buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=88453&highlight=Karl+Rove


I don't know about that....I think he should pay me,you and gibby something
after reading the link.....LOLOLOLOLO

life is good

Mr Bush is in Iraq being cheered on by the Troops,its been a fine week so
far.

[uppy]

Thanks for the reminder. He certainly lost a little more than old Karl Rove did now didn't he. Thank You Upstart. I am a LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER TODAY!!
Heavy meds kicking my arse freakin poison oak or ivy. You take 8 pills day one 7 the next and so on. I just took the 8 so not up to par yet.
:arizona: :arizona:

You seem as sharp as always jlb.

[JLB]

You seem as sharp as always jlb.

Thanks but the wife is going to kick my arse into bed soon.
I got the crap on the FACE !!! it sucks but I will return with more determination than ever before.
:rofl: Determination thats not one of my words I must be losing it take care everybody.

[nehemiah]

btw, tony snow, now that karl rove is no long under investigation - how about you answer some questions about him?

[JLB]

http://www.cbsnews.com/images/2006/05/16/image1b96253e-a786-4fdc-839d-11f548c03aa6.jpg

Ok you there trying to sneak out what's your question.

[ckg68]

Criminially,Rove may not face charges.

But...he's not out of the woods yet:

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/06/valerie-plame-and-joe-wilson-may-sue.html

[sukie]

yeah... Rov is terrified of that... lets gut and open both of those two's life in court. Hope Joe's spotless.

[JLB]

http://www.cbsnews.com/images/2006/05/16/image1b96253e-a786-4fdc-839d-11f548c03aa6.jpg

Ok you there trying to sneak out what's your question.


OK you young fella ckg68 do you have a question.
Your comment could be dead nuts on.

Or maybe its over I don't personally think its over yet for some.
But I am probably wrong this time its most likely over.
I normally bet the opposite it still works out about 50/50.
Have a good one always enjoy your comments whether or not I think I agree.
Always hold your comments and opinions with a great deal of respect have a good evening. :arizona: :arizona:

[uppy]

Joe and his wife are low level politcal hacks.Thay are playing with fire

[ckg68]

And it's possible that Rove could get burned,uppy.

Has anyone forgotten the O.J. Simpson matter? Dude was found not guilty criminally,but in civil court he was found liable. See,they have a much lesser standard of evidence than a criminal court does.

[sukie]

he was tried first however.

[ckg68]

Exactly the point.

Just because you get off criminally does not mean you're totally off the hook.

[uppy]

And it's possible that Rove could get burned,uppy.

Has anyone forgotten the O.J. Simpson matter? Dude was found not guilty criminally,but in civil court he was found liable. See,they have a much lesser standard of evidence than a criminal court does.


karl Rove and O.J. are not in the same league.

Rove is one of the most powerfull men in the world.

[JLB]

Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:54 a.m. EDT
'Fitzmas in July' Canceled, Dems Distraught





Rove Won't Be Charged in CIA Leak Case
'Fitzmas' Canceled, Dems Distraught
Bil Clinton: U.S. Should Not Pull Out of Iraq


Democrats are distraught over reports that Leakgate Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has decided not to indict senior White House advisor Karl Rove.

A sampling of liberal web sites shortly after the news was announced Tuesday morning featured reaction ranging from disbelief to denial to the desperate hope that Rove has turned states evidence against Vice President Dick Cheney.

From Newsmax.com


This does say some libs are upset so thats good right or we win you lose Jackie Mason Caddy Shack II.:arizona: :rofl: :steamin: :steamin: :steamin:
Free Beer everybody in the pool !!!
Hey lets just wait and see it will be alright !! Another great tune !!

[ckg68]

Even powerful men can be brought down.

And it's usually due to their own stupidity.

Just like your common criminal.

[JLB]

karl Rove and O.J. are not in the same league.

Rove is one of the most powerfull men in the world.

Thank You I thought we would come to that realization a little sooner but now were there thanks for pointing that detail out. Sweet and short Very Good Post !!!:duel: :duel:

[JLB]

Even powerful men can be brought down.

And it's usually due to their own stupidity.

Just like your common criminal.


This is also short and Sweet and makes sense thank you Very good comment and very true. All the best ckg68.:arizona:

[uppy]

Sorry Carl,the demo's have shot their wad on this witch hunt.Even CNN will
will stop pimping this story.

[sukie]

Son of a crap... I forgot to ask Nehemiah how the parade went.

[sukie]

http://hoffmania.blogspot.com/RoveThumbNose.jpg

[uppy]

The King should pay Sukie,Gibby and me at least 10 chips....

http://buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=88453&highlight=Karl+Rove

[JLB]

The King should pay Sukie,Gibby and me at least 10 chips....

http://buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=88453&highlight=Karl+Rove

It was as you say a relentless attack of good judgement and a total command of the thread congrats. I expect and accept no less !!:usaflag: :beerpimp: For Sukie

[uppy]

The lefties hate this Thread......LOL

[JLB]

The lefties hate this Thread......LOL

I think they hate them all just kidding.:grouphug: They need an emergency group hug so I thought here you go.

[shiva2999]

He loves parades.

He also doesn't lose an chips from his silly Rove Indictment Bet thread...
http://buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=88453&highlight=Karl+Rove

If you check the thread you'll see that I didn't buy into the Rove will be indicted excitement.

A lot of this Fitzmas stuff was generated over at DU by the centrist dems who don't cotton much to the more rabid Repub bashers like myself.

As I've mentioned before I was banned from DU in under 24 hours.

Their heart is in the right place but they still can't face the truth about what's REALLY happening in America.

Rove and his fellow pirates are guilty of crimes of several magnitudes past just outing a CIA agent.

As far as I'm concerned, getting all worked up about Rove going down for lying to the Grand Jury or other related charges is like getting excited when Al Capone went down for tax evasion.

Until Democrats get over the idea that Republicans will EVER play fair they are destined to keep taking it in the ass.

[uppy]

The GOP always plays fair.......The demos just have nothing to run on.

[shiva2999]

The GOP always plays fair.......

No they don't and neither do you.

[ckg68]

Let me add this:

Over at Hoffmania(one of the blogs I frequent),there was a post mentioning the plagarism charges being tossed at You Know Who's new book,saying that it was insignificant. And my response was ":censor: that. If an author on the left who was that sloppy and irresponsible in their writing went on national TV and made some wild-ass statements,you'd never hear the end of it from the right. EVER." So I proposed going scorched-earth on folks like that,with whatever legal methods were necessary...facts,satire,smack(but nothing about how a person looks;no one can account for that)so they're never taken seriously again except by their base.

[notacon]

The Rove affair a “witch hunt”…now Republicans have redefined the meaning of that word like they have so many others.

Fitzgerald is a Republican who conducted a leak-free investigation and apparently decided (we have not heard a thing from him about this yet…all we have heard is from Rove’s lawyers) not to charge Rove. All indications are is that decision came because the burden of proof that Rove knowingly leaked classified information that outed an undercover CIA agent and perjury is very high.

Just because it is too difficult to charge him with a crime does not mean he did not do anything wrong.

This is what we know as FACT:.

Rove leaked the identity of a covert CIA agent in an attempt to discredit a political opponent who rightfully exposed the administrations misuse of intelligence in order to go to war against Iraq.

When it was apparent what he did…he lied about it.

From court filings from Fitzgerald and uncontradicted reportage, we know that Rove did what he was suspected of doing and the administration and Rove lied about it.

Additionally President Bush lied about what he would do about it. He said that anyone who leaked classified information in his administration would be fired.

The White House, in responding to charges that they leaked classified information to discredit a critic said that “that is not the way this President or this White House operates."

Well it is fact. That IS how this president and this white house operates, then they lie about it…and then opposite what they said they would do they reward that behavior.

This president is despicable. He cares more about his own power and the power of his political party than he does about the country.

[nehemiah]

uh oh... notacon just laid the smack down.

republicans getting knocked out! :box:

[pmoon6]

The GOP always plays fair.......The demos just have nothing to run on."Fair" and "political" parties don't belong in the same sentence, just as "honest" and "politician" don't.

[sukie]

unsubstantiated "FACTS" does not a smackdown make. Rove did no such things (prove otherwise)

[JLB]

unsubstantiated "FACTS" does not a smackdown make. Rove did no such things (prove otherwise)

I guess you made a comeback in this one KO goes to Sukie !!
No comments for that long can mean only one thing we win again
Life is good.:arizona: :arizona:

[notacon]

I guess you made a comeback in this one KO goes to Sukie !!
No comments for that long can mean only one thing we win again
Life is good.:arizona: :arizona:

No…all it means is that I have other things to do besides responding to purposely ignorant partisans.

Only those that put the Republican party before their country and the truth do not accept the fact that Rove leaked Valeria Plame’s identity to Mr. Cooper of Time mag and Mr. Novak of the Chicago Tribune.

Mr. Cooper wrote about his episode. The rest has been covered by every news organization in the world…even the right wing ones.

Mr. Fiztgerald has documented it in his court filings.

There is no disputing of these facts.

YOU find me someone who disputes the facts.

[nehemiah]

notacon, you should post in PRS more often.

:rockon:

[sukie]

Rove disputes the claim obviously 5 times now. No charges.

[JLB]

No…all it means is that I have other things to do besides responding to purposely ignorant partisans.

Only those that put the Republican party before their country and the truth do not accept the fact that Rove leaked Valeria Plame’s identity to Mr. Cooper of Time mag and Mr. Novak of the Chicago Tribune.

Mr. Cooper wrote about his episode. The rest has been covered by every news organization in the world…even the right wing ones.

Mr. Fiztgerald has documented it in his court filings.

There is no disputing of these facts.

YOU find me someone who disputes the facts.

I am partisan for sure. So are you my friend.
I put no party however before my country now Canada thats different.
Just kidding!!:getwell:

[JLB]

Rove disputes the claim obviously 5 times now. No charges.

They just don't know when there is a certain time to admit thats true. It was about a week ago somebody didn't do there reading as expected.:rofl:

[uppy]

Plame had not been a covert CIA agent for over five years,thats why this
was a witch hunt.Even if Rove had leaked her name their was no crime
since she was not a Covert Agent.

[sukie]

Here husband "joey" was introducing here at partiesas a CIAemplyee and bragging about here in a green room with retired generals (2) he's the treasonous douche bag if there is one. But no matter. Rove is innocent.

[uppy]

The lefties must have a Sour Grapes taste in their mouths.

[notacon]

Plame had not been a covert CIA agent for over five years,thats why this
was a witch hunt.Even if Rove had leaked her name their was no crime
since she was not a Covert Agent.

False. The CIA said that her employment status was classified. Fitzgerald reiterated it when he indited Libby. It was the CIA that initiated the investigation by formally requesting one from the Justice dept. There was never a “witch hunt”.

Rove and Libby disclosed classified information…period!

They did this to denigrate a critic of the war…period!

They lied about it…period!

[notacon]

Here husband "joey" was introducing here at partiesas a CIAemplyee and bragging about here in a green room with retired generals (2) he's the treasonous douche bag if there is one. But no matter. Rove is innocent.

Nonsense. I am sure you heard that on right wing radio or read it on right wing Newsmax. It has no basis in fact.

OJ was found innocent.

Rove was just not charged with a crime.

He leaked classified infomation to discredit a critic and then lied about it.

[sukie]

No he didn't.

[shiva2999]

Plame had not been a covert CIA agent for over five years....

Link?

[shiva2999]

Here husband "joey" was introducing here at partiesas a CIAemplyee and bragging about here in a green room with retired generals (2) he's the treasonous douche bag if there is one. ...

Link?

[uppy]

False. The CIA said that her employment status was classified.

Link ?

[sukie]

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Plame_Leak_timeline

I can't find it...

[shiva2999]

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Plame_Leak_timeline

I can't find it...

Not surprised.

[uppy]

Link?



http://www.nationalreview.com/mccarthy/mccarthy200507180801.asp

[uppy]

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Plame_Leak_timeline

I can't find it...

I found it...its in the link I posted (Washingtion Times )

[shiva2999]

http://www.nationalreview.com/mccarthy/mccarthy200507180801.asp

I don't see it. Could you please cut and paste the appropriate sentences?

[shiva2999]

I found it...its in the link I posted (Washingtion Times )

Please post the relevant info.

[uppy]

Please post the relevant info.


And could the possibility that Plame's cover has long been blown explain why the CIA was unconcerned about assigning a one-time covert agent to a job that had her walking in and out of CIA headquarters every day? Could it explain why the Wilsons were sufficiently indiscrete to pose in Vanity Fair, and, indeed, to permit Joseph Wilson to pen a highly public op-ed regarding a sensitive mission to which his wife — the covert agent — energetically advocated his assignment? Did they fail to take commonsense precautions because they knew there really was nothing left to protect?

[uppy]

I found it...its in the link I posted (Washingtion Times )

I lost the Times link...I will look for it

[uppy]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20051009-111753-1731r.htm

[shiva2999]

And could the possibility that Plame's cover has long been blown explain why the CIA was unconcerned about assigning a one-time covert agent to a job that had her walking in and out of CIA headquarters every day? Could it explain why the Wilsons were sufficiently indiscrete to pose in Vanity Fair, and, indeed, to permit Joseph Wilson to pen a highly public op-ed regarding a sensitive mission to which his wife — the covert agent — energetically advocated his assignment? Did they fail to take commonsense precautions because they knew there really was nothing left to protect?

What does this prove? It's just speculation and not only that but speculation about events that happened AFTER Plame was outed.

Try again and this time, make it something you don't pull out of your ass.

[shiva2999]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20051009-111753-1731r.htm

Once again, please do me the favor of posting the quotes you're referring to.

[uppy]

Read both links.....and if you don't see my point...at least I provided you
with them.

[shiva2999]

Read both links.....and if you don't see my point...at least I provided you
with them.

I'm not gonna guess what lines you're referring to.

Please excerpt the relevant passages. You know what you're referring to (I hope).

I don't.

[notacon]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/20/AR2005072002517.html


A classified State Department memorandum central to a federal leak investigation contained information about CIA officer Valerie Plame in a paragraph marked "(S)" for secret, a clear indication that any Bush administration official who read it should have been aware the information was classified, according to current and former government officials.

Plame -- who is referred to by her married name, Valerie Wilson, in the memo -- is mentioned in the second paragraph of the three-page document, which was written on June 10, 2003, by an analyst in the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), according to a source who described the memo to The Washington Post.

The paragraph identifying her as the wife of former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV was clearly marked to show that it contained classified material at the "secret" level, two sources said. The CIA classifies as "secret" the names of officers whose identities are covert, according to former senior agency officials.