View Full Version : Text of Iran’s letter to George W. Bush
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 12:33:59 PM
I know how much you guys hate shooting off your mouths without knowing what you're talking about, so...
Can anyone find it for me? And post it? The whole thing?
Thanks
coastal
May 11th, 2006, 12:40:21 PM
http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-17/0605094639235358.htm
"In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful,
Mr George Bush,
President of the United States of America,
For sometime now I have been thinking, how one can justify the undeniable contradictions that exist in the international arena -- which are being constantly debated, especially in political forums and amongst university students. Many questions remain unanswered. These have prompted me to discuss some of the contradictions and questions, in the hope that it might bring about an opportunity to redress them.
Can one be a follower of Jesus Christ (PBUH), the great Messenger of God,
feel obliged to respect human rights, present liberalism as a civilization model, announce one’s opposition to the proliferation of nuclear weapons and WMDs, make “War on Terror” his slogan, and finally, work towards the establishment of a unified international community – a community which Christ and the virtuous of the Earth will one day govern, but at the same time, have countries attacked. The lives, reputations and possessions of people destroyed and on the slight chance of the presence of a few criminals in a village, city, or convoy for example, the entire village, city or convoy (are) set ablaze.
Or because of the possibility of the existence of WMDs in one country, it is occupied, around one hundred thousand people killed, its water sources, agriculture and industry destroyed, close to 180,000 foreign troops put on the ground, sanctity of private homes of citizens broken, and the country pushed back perhaps fifty years. At what price? Hundreds of billions of dollars spent from the treasury of one country and certain other countries and tens of thousands of young men and women – as occupation troops – put in harms way, taken away from family and loved ones, their hands stained with the blood of others, subjected to so much psychological pressure that everyday some commit suicide and those returning home suffer depression, become sickly and grapple with all sorts of ailments; while some are killed and their bodies handed to their families."
coastal
May 11th, 2006, 12:42:27 PM
here is an easier site to get to the other pages...
http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-727571,36-769886,0.html
Gibby
May 11th, 2006, 12:44:04 PM
you know whats sad about this letter, it proves my theory that George Bush makes other people look sane. The other thing about this letter -other than its take on Israel and democracy- is that I generally agree with it. Why can't the Democrats speak like this?
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 12:47:00 PM
It says below is the full text but I can't find how to get to the rest of it.
Apparently it's 18 pages long and I don't trust anyone in the media or gov't to excerpt it.
Oops just noticed your second link. I will try that. Thanks.
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 12:49:26 PM
you know whats sad about this letter, it proves my theory that George Bush makes other people look sane. The other thing about this letter -other than its take on Israel and democracy- is that I generally agree with it. Why can't the Democrats speak like this?
Why do you think the gov't won't release it?
Iran is calling out the Bush administration AND the MSM.
He's bang on.
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 12:59:22 PM
All governments have a duty to protect the lives, property and good standing of their citizens. Reportedly your government employs extensive security, protection and intelligence systems – and even hunts its opponents abroad. September eleven was not a simple operation. Could it be planned and executed without coordination with intelligence and security services – or their extensive infiltration? Of course this is just an educated guess. Why have the various aspects of the attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities? And, why aren't those responsible and the guilty parties identified and put on trial?
All governments have a duty to provide security and peace of mind for their citizens. For some years now, the people of your country and neighbours of world trouble spots do not have peace of mind. After 9.11, instead of healing and tending to the emotional wounds of the survivors and the American people – who had been immensely traumatised by the attacks – some Western media only intensified the climates of fear and insecurity – some constantly talked about the possibility of new terror attacks and kept the people in fear. Is that service to the American people? Is it possible to calculate the damages incurred from fear and panic?
American citizen lived in constant fear of fresh attacks that could come at any moment and in any place. They felt insecure in the streets, in their place of work and at home. Who would be happy with this situation? Why was the media, instead of conveying a feeling of security and providing peace of mind, giving rise to a feeling of insecurity?
Some believe that the hype paved the way – and was the justification – for an attack on Afghanistan. Again I need to refer to the role of media. In media charters, correct dissemination of information and honest reporting of a story are established tenets. I express my deep regret about the disregard shown by certain Western media for these principles. The main pretext for an attack on Iraq was the existence of WMDs. This was repeated incessantly – for the public to, finally, believe – and the ground set for an attack on Iraq.
Will the truth not be lost in a contrived and deceptive climate? Again, if the truth is allowed to be lost, how can that be reconciled with the earlier mentioned values? Is the truth known to the Almighty lost as well?
coastal
May 11th, 2006, 1:10:00 PM
Is the truth known to the Almighty lost as well?
My favorite proverb... 11:1
A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight.
Karma is coming for America.
If we should fearful of anything, this is it.
rob on the job
May 11th, 2006, 1:27:32 PM
... Why can't the Democrats speak like this?
Because the Democrats' collective hands would palsy before they could write ""In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful ... "
rob on the job
May 11th, 2006, 1:34:28 PM
My favorite proverb... 11:1
A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight.
Karma is coming for America.
If we should fearful of anything, this is it.
This isn't from Proverbs, but it is apropos:
1JO 4:16 And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love.
Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.
17 In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have
confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him.
18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because
fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in
love.
coastal
May 11th, 2006, 1:47:49 PM
This isn't from Proverbs
http://www.godrules.net/library/kjv/kjvpro11.htm
"11:1 A false balance [is] abomination to the LORD: but a just weight [is] his delight."
but it is apropos:
1JO 4:16 And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love.
Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.
17 In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have
confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him.
18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because
fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in
love.
blow me.
rob on the job
May 11th, 2006, 1:55:44 PM
blow me
Your invitation aside, when I wrote "this isn't from Proverbs," I wasn't talking about what you had posted.
I was talking about the Scripture I was posting.
coastal
May 11th, 2006, 1:57:37 PM
Your invitation aside, when I wrote "this isn't from Proverbs," I wasn't talking about what you had posted.
I was talking about the Scripture I was posting.
oic...
my offer still stands.
rob on the job
May 11th, 2006, 2:07:10 PM
oic...
my offer still stands.
No thanks.
sukie
May 11th, 2006, 2:17:43 PM
Okay so the letter, Shiva, how was I shooting my mouth of by starting my previous thread?
TRIPLE P
May 11th, 2006, 2:24:17 PM
If we should fearful of anything, this is it.
I ain't never skeer'd
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 2:35:08 PM
Okay so the letter, Shiva, how was I shooting my mouth of by starting my previous thread?
Did you think I was referring to you?
sukie
May 11th, 2006, 2:39:12 PM
Who else brought up the letter or even mentioned it?
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 2:40:54 PM
Then I guess I must have been referring to you.
rob on the job
May 11th, 2006, 3:05:48 PM
Shiva, are you drunk?
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 3:09:23 PM
No, are you?
rob on the job
May 11th, 2006, 3:10:42 PM
No, are you?
No sir. It just seems that you are off your game today.
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 4:06:36 PM
No sir. It just seems that you are off your game today.
Are you confused? Having a "senior moment"?
http://www.patandkat.com/pat/weblog/images/rummy-confused.jpg
rob on the job
May 11th, 2006, 4:08:49 PM
Does your colostomy bag need changing?
http://www.geocities.com/simpsonshq2000/Pictures/characters/grampastartled.JPG
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 4:50:07 PM
Does your colostomy bag need changing?
Don't worry, my nurse takes good care of me...
http://www.gamingreport.com/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Gencon/Gen%20Con%20Costumes/BadNun.jpg
rob on the job
May 11th, 2006, 6:32:34 PM
Sister, I've been bad.
Get out the ruler.
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