View Full Version : Dobbs to President: Do you take us for fools?
RabidBillsFan
May 10th, 2006, 6:59:02 PM
NEW YORK -- Reports this week that the Border Patrol is notifying the Mexican government of the locations of Minutemen volunteers are being denied by U.S. Customs and Border Protection. True or not, the Bush administration continues to follow absurd policies on both issues of border security and illegal immigration.
President Bush continues to push his guest worker program and amnesty for anywhere between 11 million and 20 million illegal aliens, and he insists still that nothing less than what he calls comprehensive immigration reform is acceptable.
And the lies keep coming from both political parties. This president is not enforcing the immigration laws enacted by Congress, and this Congress is failing in its duty of oversight to demand that those laws be followed.
Only a fool, Mr. President, Sen. Kennedy, Sen. McCain, would believe you when you speak of new legislation. You don't enforce the laws now.
Would you do so if the law were more to your liking? Would you secure our borders and ports? Would you halt illegal immigration? Those are rhetorical questions, only, I assure you. The answers are obvious; obvious because of your conduct.
As many as 3 million illegal aliens continue to cross our border with Mexico each year. Enforcement against illegal employers of illegal aliens in this country is all but nonexistent, Mr. President. How do you explain that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents have all but ended their investigations and inspections of employers that hire illegal aliens? Again, only a rhetorical question, because we all know the answer.
But here is the official record of your sense of duty: 318 employers out of five and a half million in this country have been fined for hiring illegal aliens since 2001. In 2004, only three employers were fined. That is a dismal record, Mr. President, as dismal as the fact that the number of ICE agents assigned to enforce immigration laws in the workplace has declined from only 240 back in 1999 to now less than 100.
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/10/dobbs.enforcement/index.html
35Pete
May 10th, 2006, 8:30:09 PM
Excellent post!
35Pete
May 10th, 2006, 8:33:22 PM
Don't at all mind Mexican immigrants. No, not at all. But I want EDUCATED guys like Victor7, who can contribute and enhance this great nation. I don't want Mexico's trash.
Victor7 = Contributor (educated) and net asset to our nation.
Typical illegal alien = parasite.
shiva2999
May 10th, 2006, 8:38:43 PM
... But I want EDUCATED guys like Victor7...
I'd rather have his ex-girlfriend, the one with the educated ass.
35Pete
May 10th, 2006, 8:47:24 PM
Funny Shiva. Victor spent time at my house in Ft. Lauderdale and a few days in Tampa. Meeting him you would NEVER know that he was Mexican. Impeccable perfect English. I mean NO accent! And he would love to work here. Can't get a Visa. Very very bright guy.We talked at length and this is what I inferred.
1.) He is proud of his heritage (as he should be!)
2.) He is a really hard worker.
3.) I think if he lived here he would be PROUD to be a citzen, but would still celebrate his background and culture (as he should).
4.) He would raise his children to be Americans, not meaning that he in any way feels that being Mexican is being less, because I assure you he does NOT feel that way, nor should he.
5.) When in America he respects our culture, as I do when I am in Mexico.
6.) He would not demand that everything be handed to him in spanish.
These are the type of immigrants that we NEED.
uppy
May 10th, 2006, 9:25:48 PM
Lou Dobbs has been trashing the Bush administration from the day he rejoined CNN.
He made a decision: the mainstream viewers went to Cavuto on FOXNEWS. In order to gain any traction, he had to stake out a position against the president.
So, he blamed outsourcing and offshoring on Bush, drew in the Buchananites, the Birchers, angry lunch bucket crowd, and he has focused on that demographic every since.
He's become a populist pundit, rather than a commentator on the financial world.
As long as that works, you'll hear more Bush-bashing, corporate-bashing, Republican-bashing.
He gives the Democrats and unions a pass.
35Pete
May 10th, 2006, 9:33:09 PM
Lou Dobbs has been trashing the Bush administration from the day he rejoined CNN.
He made a decision: the mainstream viewers went to Cavuto on FOXNEWS. In order to gain any traction, he had to stake out a position against the president.
So, he blamed outsourcing and offshoring on Bush, drew in the Buchananites, the Birchers, angry lunch bucket crowd, and he has focused on that demographic every since.
He's become a populist pundit, rather than a commentator on the financial world.
As long as that works, you'll hear more Bush-bashing, corporate-bashing, Republican-bashing.
He gives the Democrats and unions a pass.
I disagree. He DOES NOT give the dems a pass. He follows principle. He sees horse shit and calls it. And Bush's immigration policy is horse shit.
uppy
May 10th, 2006, 9:42:17 PM
Bush's immigration policy is bullshit,I agree.....but Dobbs is now a demo kiss
ass.
ckg68
May 10th, 2006, 9:49:41 PM
He's a REPUBLICAN,uppy. Oh,and more more thing: Neil's show is on at 4,Lou airs at 6pm.
Nice try.
Jack Cafferty is in much the same mold as Dobbs is...very cantankerous,and I'll never forget the time he ripped Wolf Blitzer up one side and down the other for thinking him an idiot.
uppy
May 10th, 2006, 9:57:34 PM
He's a REPUBLICAN,uppy.
Nice try.
He tools for CNN these days...he drinks the kool-aid now.
sukie
May 11th, 2006, 12:10:10 AM
We lose a good one once in a while. At least now we have LIEBERMAN.
ckg68
May 11th, 2006, 12:38:16 AM
And you can KEEP him!
Victor7
May 11th, 2006, 1:02:07 PM
I'd rather have his ex-girlfriend, the one with the educated ass.
lol !!
Victor7
May 11th, 2006, 1:04:47 PM
Funny Shiva. Victor spent time at my house in Ft. Lauderdale and a few days in Tampa. Meeting him you would NEVER know that he was Mexican. Impeccable perfect English. I mean NO accent! And he would love to work here. Can't get a Visa. Very very bright guy.We talked at length and this is what I inferred.
1.) He is proud of his heritage (as he should be!)
2.) He is a really hard worker.
3.) I think if he lived here he would be PROUD to be a citzen, but would still celebrate his background and culture (as he should).
4.) He would raise his children to be Americans, not meaning that he in any way feels that being Mexican is being less, because I assure you he does NOT feel that way, nor should he.
5.) When in America he respects our culture, as I do when I am in Mexico.
6.) He would not demand that everything be handed to him in spanish.
These are the type of immigrants that we NEED.
Thanks Pete !! ............... poitn 4 might be a bit different, I'd raise them to be prooud and know the history of both nations. Other than that you're right on the mark.
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 1:08:36 PM
"Meeting him you would NEVER know that he was Mexican." - Pete
I don't know if I'd be happy with this statement Victor.
Victor7
May 11th, 2006, 1:11:32 PM
"Meeting him you would NEVER know that he was Mexican." - Pete
I don't know if I'd be happy with this statement Victor.
I think you misinterpreted that statement Shiv, the way I understood that is that my accent wont give away where I'm from.
coastal
May 11th, 2006, 1:16:44 PM
I don't think he misrepresented it at all.
Since when did looking, talking, and walking like a Mexican equate to being a worthless wetback?
Victor7
May 11th, 2006, 1:20:06 PM
I don't think he misrepresented it at all.
Since when did looking, talking, and walking like a Mexican equate to being a worthless wetback?
I dont think thats what Pete said Coastal. I only saw it as a compliment to my english thats all. But I agree with the rest of your post talking, walking and looking Mexican doesnt mean shit about how you are as a person.
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 1:20:21 PM
I think you misinterpreted that statement Shiv, the way I understood that is that my accent wont give away where I'm from.
You're a good Christian Victor. This shows generosity of spirit.
Some who were less generous might take offense that Pete thinks it's a plus that no one would take you for a Mexican.
Victor7
May 11th, 2006, 1:22:32 PM
You're a good Christian Victor. This shows generosity of spirit.
Some who were less generous might take offense that Pete thinks it's a plus that no one would take you for a Mexican.
Thanks for the 1st part :thumbup: and I see what you mean about taking offense, but I dont really think thats what he meant.
Soviet_Canuckastani
May 11th, 2006, 1:57:33 PM
We lose a good one once in a while. At least now we have LIEBERMAN.
You've always had him, he was nothing more than a mole in his time with the Dems.
35Pete
May 11th, 2006, 2:43:55 PM
Victor. You are right by what I meant. You have ZERO accent. And since Americans look hispanic, european, indian, asian, arab, you cannot tell who is and is not an American on looks alone. Know what I mean? Personally I am disgusted with coastal's and Shiva's low-blow repulsive attempt to paint me a racist. The two characters in question love to smear and misrepresent what others say. In other words count on them to lie about others when convenient for them.
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 3:12:01 PM
Pete can point to Victor when he says "Some of my best friends are Mexicans!"
coastal
May 11th, 2006, 3:12:46 PM
Funny Shiva. Victor spent time at my house in Ft. Lauderdale and a few days in Tampa. Meeting him you would NEVER know that he was Mexican. Let's see what being a Mexican means in Pete's world.
Impeccable perfect English. I mean NO accent! translation: He doesn't speak spick.
And he would love to work here. Can't get a Visa. translation:Not like those lazy wetbacks who are sneaking across the borders in droves illegally.
Very very bright guy.We talked at length and this is what I inferred.translation: Mexicans are idiots... Victor is the exception
1.) He is proud of his heritage (as he should be!)translation: See! I'm not racist.
2.) He is a really hard worker. translation: not like the lazy wetbacks.
3.) I think if he lived here he would be PROUD to be a citzen, but would still celebrate his background and culture (as he should).translation: America rocks as long as you speak American, and I'm really not racist. I mean it. I'm not!
4.) He would raise his children to be Americans, not meaning that he in any way feels that being Mexican is being less, because I assure you he does NOT feel that way, nor should he. translation: Americans are the best and I'm not really a racist. I swear.
5.) When in America he respects our culture, as I do when I am in Mexico.translation:He minds his p's and q's and I wouldn't get caught dead in the toilet of a country.
6.) He would not demand that everything be handed to him in spanish.translation: Now there's a spick who knows his place.
These are the type of immigrants that we NEED.translation: You ever here the one about the spick, the Jew, the negro and the slope?
RabidBillsFan
May 11th, 2006, 3:13:21 PM
Pete can point to Victor when he says "Some of my best friends are Mexicans!"
At least he has best friends.
rob on the job
May 11th, 2006, 3:16:01 PM
Funny, he doesn't LOOK Mexican.
http://spoiledrottendoggies.com/LIL%20BANDITO.jpg
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 3:18:38 PM
At least he has best friends.
Especially when drinking.
RabidBillsFan
May 11th, 2006, 3:20:24 PM
Especially when drinking.
Envy will get you nowhere- and I am a teetotaler.
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 3:42:30 PM
Envy will get you nowhere- and I am a teetotaler.
Try and keep up. We were talking about Pete, not you.
RabidBillsFan
May 11th, 2006, 3:44:32 PM
Try and keep up. We were talking about Pete, not you.
And I'm talking about you, so do try and keep up yourself!
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 3:54:35 PM
And I'm talking about you, so do try and keep up yourself!
So what does your being a tee totaller have to do with me?
35Pete
May 11th, 2006, 4:08:59 PM
Let's see what being a Mexican means in Pete's world.
translation: He doesn't speak spick.
translation:Not like those lazy wetbacks who are sneaking across the borders in droves illegally.
translation: Mexicans are idiots... Victor is the exception
translation: See! I'm not racist.
translation: not like the lazy wetbacks.
translation: America rocks as long as you speak American, and I'm really not racist. I mean it. I'm not!
translation: Americans are the best and I'm not really a racist. I swear.
translation:He minds his p's and q's and I wouldn't get caught dead in the toilet of a country.
translation: Now there's a spick who knows his place.
translation: You ever here the one about the spick, the Jew, the negro and the slope?
The fact that you have the imagination for this prticular kind of stuff speaks volumes of you.
coastal
May 11th, 2006, 4:26:10 PM
The fact that you have the imagination for this prticular kind of stuff speaks volumes of you.
Thanks.
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 4:34:53 PM
Thanks.
That does show some class on Pete's part that he's willing to say something nice to you after you flayed the flesh from his behind.
Kudos Pete!
35Pete
May 11th, 2006, 4:35:56 PM
Flayed my flesh? What kind of circle jerk are you guys running here?
nehemiah
May 11th, 2006, 4:37:51 PM
open the borders.
35Pete
May 11th, 2006, 4:39:44 PM
An ad hominen attack is considered a "flaying" around here. Something that Shiva is embarassingly "proud" of. This is the stuff that he uses to gauge that the left "kicks ass" around here.
It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
coastal
May 11th, 2006, 5:00:40 PM
That does show some class on Pete's part that he's willing to say something nice to you after you flayed the flesh from his behind.
Kudos Pete!
I know.
I feel awful about acting in this manner, but sometimes I just can't help myself.
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 5:03:41 PM
I know.
I feel awful about acting in this manner, but sometimes I just can't help myself.
God will forgive you my son, because your heart is pure.
35Pete
May 11th, 2006, 5:22:10 PM
I know.
I feel awful about acting in this manner, but sometimes I just can't help myself.
That's because your posts, though often clever, are often all sizzle and no steak. Nice punch lines but nothing more.
Just attacking Bush all the time gets quite boring, doesn't it?
Coastal. What DO you stand for?
I mean really. I have no idea what your guiding principles are. Just that you hate republicans. Really.
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 5:37:18 PM
That's because your posts, though often clever, are often all sizzle and no steak. Nice punch lines but nothing more.
Just attacking Bush all the time gets quite boring, doesn't it?
Coastal. What DO you stand for?
I mean really. I have no idea what your guiding principles are. Just that you hate republicans. Really.
Translation?
"My ass is soooooo sore!"
coastal
May 11th, 2006, 5:40:42 PM
That's one of Pete's more endearing qualities...
he's so easy to figure out.
35Pete
May 11th, 2006, 5:50:58 PM
You guys make yourselves look foolish with this nonsense. No one else, just you.
shiva2999
May 11th, 2006, 6:01:54 PM
You guys make yourselves look foolish with this nonsense. No one else, just you.
A String Theory Haiku...
A mind made of strings
Imagines a world begging
To live life in chains
RabidBillsFan
May 11th, 2006, 6:12:42 PM
A String Theory Haiku...
A mind made of strings
Imagines a world begging
To live life in chains
A man,
A plan,
A canal,
Panama.
YAY!! Finger painting is next.
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