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nehemiah
May 9th, 2006, 9:05:31 AM
is not the republican party. please recall grover norquist's quote about flushing the govt down the toilet. apparently - that was a real action plan? who knew. :dunno:

A $2.7 trillion budget plan pending before the House would raise the federal debt ceiling to nearly $10 trillion, less than two months after Congress last raised the federal government's borrowing limit.

The provision -- buried on page 121 of the 151-page budget blueprint -- serves as a backdrop to congressional action this week. House leaders hope to try once again to pass a budget plan for fiscal 2007, a month after a revolt by House Republican moderates and Appropriations Committee members forced leaders to pull the plan.

Leaders also hope to pass a package of tax-cut extensions that would cost the Treasury $70 billion over the next five years. They would then turn Thursday to a $513 billion defense policy bill that would block President Bush's request to raise health-care fees and co-payments for service members and their families.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/08/AR2006050801425.html

sukie
May 9th, 2006, 9:25:45 AM
I'd like to have that kind of borrowing power.

rob on the job
May 9th, 2006, 9:30:14 AM
Republicans need to do a gut check and get back to the principles of conservatism.

anEinherjer
May 9th, 2006, 9:53:59 AM
Noone's arguing your point Nehe. :D

I do like the spin put on tax cuts - "cost" the treasury some amount. How about spinning it, "If they put these taxes back in place, they'll cost TAXPAYERS 70 billiion over 5 years." The "Treasury-first" mentality is pathetic.

35Pete
May 9th, 2006, 11:36:48 AM
Republicans need to do a gut check and get back to the principles of conservatism.
Stop spending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sukie
May 9th, 2006, 11:40:15 AM
spending cannot be stopped. Controlled maybe. I think the government needs to read less of the media splewl and govern.

anEinherjer
May 9th, 2006, 11:41:46 AM
We can argue about a lot of things Ronald Reagan did. You can claim he was the worst president or the best. But he was spot on when he said this in his first inaugural address:

In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden.

I'd like to see anything more recent be more eloquent than that. Noone on the Republican side seems to remember what their deified leader said.

rob on the job
May 9th, 2006, 11:43:31 AM
... Noone on the Republican side seems to remember what their deified leader said.

Sad but true.

sukie
May 9th, 2006, 11:59:29 AM
Great speech writers. That's all unfortunately.

nehemiah
May 9th, 2006, 12:06:34 PM
doesn't it seem odd that the leader of the govt is ranting about the existence of said govt? didn't stop dude from running a second time, eh?

2nd. worst. president. ever.

anEinherjer
May 9th, 2006, 12:57:13 PM
Yeah ok, nehe. According to you then if you're the leader of something it must be defended or grow at all costs?

Reagan (or his speechwriters - who cares, really, Sukie - where are those speechwriters today??) didn't argue for the abolishment of government, he never would. But there's a huge difference between what Reagan advocated and what we've had infliected on us in the last 20 years.

There's little doubt who'd have been on the side of the Tories 230 years ago this July.

K-Gun
May 9th, 2006, 3:27:02 PM
spending cannot be stopped. Controlled maybe. I think the government needs to read less of the media splewl and govern.

don't worry, this government hardly reads.

anEinherjer
May 9th, 2006, 3:52:52 PM
My question is what's are the Dems planning? More of the same, I'd wager.

www.fairtax.org

sukie
May 9th, 2006, 3:55:19 PM
The Demss are obviously going with the Bush sucks... "There's a better way"
(without a word on what that "way" is) and a promise to vastly lower oil prices with sweeping healthcare reform and taxing big oil and the rich."
Makes no sense... I know, but it's gotta be close.

Mouldsie
May 9th, 2006, 6:15:01 PM
Bush is bad for the economy

sukie
May 9th, 2006, 7:56:19 PM
How? the economy is strong.