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JWatts
April 28th, 2006, 9:22:02 PM
Per ESPN News Mario Williams agreed to terms with the Texans and will be the #1 pick tomorrow. No link yet as I can't link the TV.

Bills82
April 28th, 2006, 9:25:04 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5552412



Looks like Mario Williams will be taken number one overall by the texas over Reggie Bush!
It's being reported on NFL Total Access.

Bpaup95
April 28th, 2006, 9:25:24 PM
http://nfl.com/

breaking news at the top of the page.

schefter is on nfl network talking about it now

SHINEdown30
April 28th, 2006, 9:28:55 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5552412



Looks like Mario Williams will be taken number one overall by the texas over Reggie Bush!
It's being reported on NFL Total Access.


Its official....Texans take Mario Williams(go to NFL.com)
I can't see why they wouldn't take bush!

Mouldsie
April 28th, 2006, 9:30:06 PM
wow

bill8164
April 28th, 2006, 9:37:17 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2426003

i_luv_bills
April 28th, 2006, 9:37:40 PM
I would rather have Williams myself...

buffan100
April 28th, 2006, 9:37:59 PM
The big Q is who might trade with the Saints for the #2.

Every team in the top 10 should be offering their #1 plus a future #1 and more.

If the Saints moved down, but above us, it could change many mock drafts. OR the Saints could be the ones stealing Brick from us.

str8blazzen
April 28th, 2006, 9:40:21 PM
Texans | Texans reach agreement with M. Williams
Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:16:22 -0700

The NFL Network reports the Houston Texans have reached a contract agreement with North Carolina State DE Mario Williams. He is now expected to be the first pick in the NFL Draft.

BillsCAfan
April 28th, 2006, 9:41:14 PM
I'm shocked. This is going to be interesting.

The bad part of this is that the Jets are very much in the running for Bush. They are going to trade up and grab him.

str8blazzen
April 28th, 2006, 9:42:48 PM
Texans | More on M. Williams' signing
Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:30:55 -0700

John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans have signed North Carolina State DE Mario Williams to an undisclosed contract, meaning he'll be the first player selected in the 2006 NFL Draft. By signing Williams to a contract that will guarantee him almost $22 million this year, the Texans turned their back on USC RB Reggie Bush. Although the Texans said the controversy involving Bush and his parents' living arrangements in San Diego had nothing to do with their decision, they intensified negotiations with Ben Dogra Thursday, April 27, and worked all day Friday, April 28, to complete the deal.

GSWJ23RICHARDSON
April 28th, 2006, 9:44:39 PM
Wow...if M. Williams is a bust this has potential to be one of the worst moves ever...

nukedawg
April 28th, 2006, 9:45:25 PM
The big Q is who might trade with the Saints for the #2.

Every team in the top 10 should be offering their #1 plus a future #1 and more.

If the Saints moved down, but above us, it could change many mock drafts. OR the Saints could be the ones stealing Brick from us.


My guess is the Jets trade up to get Bush

bigvinny
April 28th, 2006, 9:53:53 PM
no way mario will be a bust but I don't see how you pass on reggie bush.

JLB
April 28th, 2006, 9:54:39 PM
Good choice can`t go wrong they were no where with Bush negotiations good decision this could get very interesting. Do the Saints want Bush or use him for some great trade offer.

JWatts
April 28th, 2006, 9:57:11 PM
Per ESPN Bush may go to the Saints

The choice of Williams by the Texans could dramatically alter the landscape of the early segment of the first round. The New Orleans Saints, with the second choice, have indicated they would snap up Bush if he fell to their slot. But the Saints had hinted, in general, that they might entertain trade offers for their pick.


The availability of Bush at the No. 2 spot would almost certainly elicit trade offers.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2426003

JLB
April 28th, 2006, 9:57:51 PM
What do the Saints need most I know they need many but what most of all?Could Bush continue to drop? If so how far any ideas out there?

GSWJ23RICHARDSON
April 28th, 2006, 9:59:23 PM
What do the Saints need most I know they need many but what most of all?Could Bush continue to drop? If so how far any ideas out there?

IMO, not a chance he drops past 2...the saints may trade down, and probably with the Jets, who'll snag bush

JLB
April 28th, 2006, 10:03:49 PM
Saints should take Bush but for a crazy offer who knows.

GSWJ23RICHARDSON
April 28th, 2006, 10:05:25 PM
I will forever be angered if the jets get him...living in predominantly Jets country, they wont stop raving about him, and he's a guy i'd like to like, but as a Jet, I couldn't.

Plus, we'd have to face him 2x a year...

SweetLee8 3PlayaWha?
April 28th, 2006, 10:15:23 PM
This is a tremendous move by the Texans.

Reggie Bush is going to be a good but not spectacular NFL player.

Mario Williams will transform their defense.

rufc05
April 28th, 2006, 10:15:46 PM
I still don't think that they will take williams. I believe this is a precautionary move, in case the talks with bush aren't going well. I think they will still take bush.

Although, I think the better move for them is to take williams first and then take bush clone norwood in the second.

JayHall93
April 28th, 2006, 10:20:14 PM
http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=88486

you will see that i selected mario 1 to texans !!!

ddpderek
April 28th, 2006, 10:32:31 PM
I still don't think that they will take williams. I believe this is a precautionary move, in case the talks with bush aren't going well. I think they will still take bush.

Although, I think the better move for them is to take williams first and then take bush clone norwood in the second.


No its done

ddpderek
April 28th, 2006, 10:33:34 PM
http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=88486

you will see that i selected mario 1 to texans !!!


props

FinNasty
April 28th, 2006, 10:35:44 PM
crazyness...

coastal
April 28th, 2006, 10:38:50 PM
http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=88486

you will see that i selected mario 1 to texans !!!
look who I got trading up into the two spot to grab Bush.

ddpderek
April 28th, 2006, 10:47:45 PM
I dont think Bush will be a JET .. I think he wil be a Titan

Think about it ... Chris Brown and Travis Henry not anything special and I have a feeling that they will out bid the a JETS I mean it isnt out of the question.

Bush could be a Saint to as Deuce as injury problems and they be a great attack

Oakland could be a player to

Maybe Clevland but it be a long shot

Bufsabresnu
April 28th, 2006, 10:49:49 PM
This has the ability to change things in the draft. There will be more trade rumors floating around now.

ddpderek
April 28th, 2006, 10:52:12 PM
This has the ability to change things in the draft. There will be more trade rumors floating around now.


For sure I think that either Leinart or Young will be there at 8... do we make that pick and dump one of our QBs for a late pick.

Or do we make a sweet deal and trade done 3 to 4 spots and pick up a 2nd rounder.

SHINEdown30
April 28th, 2006, 10:53:03 PM
No its done

He cant sign a contract until he gets drafted. They could pick Bush because Mario's contract is just a verbally contract.

admarc
April 28th, 2006, 10:54:03 PM
If the Titans end up with Bush, the QB's are going to drop.

BTW, We have a thread open to discuss the draft. Draft Central (http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=88939)

ddpderek
April 28th, 2006, 10:55:09 PM
He cant sign a contract until he gets drafted. They could pick Bush because Mario's contract is just a verbally contract.


Okay but why tease that you look like a crap organization

admarc
April 28th, 2006, 10:55:36 PM
He cant sign a contract until he gets drafted. They could pick Bush because Mario's contract is just a verbally contract.

Not true, the NFL lets teams with the first pick negotiate and sign contracts before the draft. I believe now the Saints can actually begin negotiations once this is finalized.

JWatts
April 28th, 2006, 10:57:25 PM
He cant sign a contract until he gets drafted. They could pick Bush because Mario's contract is just a verbally contract.

Texans can talk to anyone they want and sign them to a contract before the draft as they own the first pick. The Bengals did the same thing when they selected Palmer.

phishhead220
April 28th, 2006, 11:04:20 PM
doesn't the first pick not sign for many weeks after the draft? i recall teams waiting for the signing to dictate how much they'll pay for their picks

ddpderek
April 28th, 2006, 11:05:41 PM
doesn't the first pick not sign for many weeks after the draft? i recall teams waiting for the signing to dictate how much they'll pay for their picks


depends on the year

admarc
April 28th, 2006, 11:08:56 PM
They don't have to sign their first pick before the draft, but they can.

ckg68
April 28th, 2006, 11:13:29 PM
I have to agree: This smells like a bad move by the Texans. And if it goes south,it could condemn them to football hell for years.

Michael Irvin just said on ESPNEWS that he was shocked by the move-considering that Reggie is a multi-tool player AND he can sell tickets. You can't say that about Williams,no matter how good he is.

Ask the average football fan who they want to see when they plunk down their money,and dollars to donuts they will NOT say they want to see that DE clog up the running lanes or sacking the QB. They want to see the offense score TDs.

Merk
April 28th, 2006, 11:15:03 PM
Its pretty much a done deal


ESPN and Sirius NFL Network are reporting that the contract is a done deal.


If the Texans take the whole 15 min I'm going to be pist :)

admarc
April 28th, 2006, 11:27:04 PM
Its pretty much a done deal


ESPN and Sirius NFL Network are reporting that the contract is a done deal.


If the Texans take the whole 15 min I'm going to be pist :)

You know they are. What happens if they pull a Viking ? They sign him to a contract, but forget to hand in the card and the saints scoop him up.

That would be like that Simpson's episode where Bart runs for class president, but everyone forgets to votefor him .

Merk
April 28th, 2006, 11:35:19 PM
I also think that Bush was asking for the Moon thinking the Texans wouldnt dare pass on him b/c of all the hype created by ESPN. They did after all start calling the 49ers Texans game the Reggie Bush Bowl.


I think Bush overplayed his hand and the Texans called his bluff

gilchristfan
April 28th, 2006, 11:48:30 PM
I have to agree: This smells like a bad move by the Texans. And if it goes south,it could condemn them to football hell for years.

Michael Irvin just said on ESPNEWS that he was shocked by the move-considering that Reggie is a multi-tool player AND he can sell tickets. You can't say that about Williams,no matter how good he is.

Ask the average football fan who they want to see when they plunk down their money,and dollars to donuts they will NOT say they want to see that DE clog up the running lanes or sacking the QB. They want to see the offense score TDs.

Houston's already 3rd in the league in revenues. They might not need to sell tickets.

As a pure football move.....well...the Julius Peppers/Michael Strahan/Jevon Kearse's/Bruce Smith's don't come around every year, and of course, DE has become the glamour position of the D. It'd be a tough call, but I can see why they did it.

I thought something was strange when they didn't bring in Bush for a visit until recently. I figured they were actually considering Vince Young, or maybe Leinhart.

dasaybz
April 29th, 2006, 12:06:48 AM
What a bunch of ****ing idiots. I am so thankful I am not a fan of that pathetic franchise.

BillsCAfan
April 29th, 2006, 12:28:17 AM
Not true, the NFL lets teams with the first pick negotiate and sign contracts before the draft. I believe now the Saints can actually begin negotiations once this is finalized.

Correct. As soon as Mario Williams signs the contract, which I think he already has, the Saints can start negotiations with a player if they want him at 2. Technically.....although it would never happen, the whole first round could be decided before the day of the draft.

As for the pick, it was the correct move. You already have a good RB and QB, so Bush or Leinart or Young would have been nice a flashy, but why not draft a stud at a position which you have no one? I though picking Bush was bad idea way back in January, but I also said that the Texans should trade down and pick up some great picks, but they didn't. Either way, I think they made the right move.

On ESPN today one of the espn reporters said that Kubiak told Casserly something along the lines of "we are in the division with the colts, we can't out gun them, so why not try to stop them?" I agree with that. If you look at teams that have had success against the Colts, you will see tough defensive teams that have put constant pressure on Manning. Every team that has got into a offensive shootout against them has lost.

Some food for thought.

Circusboy39
April 29th, 2006, 12:31:47 AM
What a bunch of ****ing idiots. I am so thankful I am not a fan of that pathetic franchise.

Don't worry, I believe they all wanted Vince Young anyways...

IhatethePats
April 29th, 2006, 12:33:56 AM
What a bunch of ****ing idiots. I am so thankful I am not a fan of that pathetic franchise.

Well we have an 80 year old Rookie GM...

TheCrystalBall
April 29th, 2006, 1:38:31 AM
Does this mean Vernon Davis or Vince Young could fall to us???

Buffal0B1LLs_fan
April 29th, 2006, 2:17:24 AM
I'm shocked. This is going to be interesting.

The bad part of this is that the Jets are very much in the running for Bush. They are going to trade up and grab him.

I'd much rather the Jets have Bush, then Mario.

BillsCAfan
April 29th, 2006, 2:41:35 AM
I'd much rather the Jets have Bush, then Mario.

I wouldn't.

We've played against DEs in the likes of Taylor, Peppers and Rice, and have faired well.

We are not gonna have that luck with Bush.

Bush is by far the best player in this draft. He is purely remarkable, but the reason why it was a good move by the Texans to go with Mario is because they already have a great RB and a great QB who have yet had the opportunity to full showcase their talents with their line. If the Texans don't go offensive of line with their next two picks, they are morons.

Basically need is the only basis in which I am saying Mario would be the better pick, but as in talent, Bush is a much better RB/KR/WR prospect than Williams is a DE prospect.

Texans needed DE/LB/S/CB/OT/OG

They got their DE, and with the other holes, you don't go out giving 26+ million guranteed to a RB, especially when you got Davis, who is more than capable, and already had a decent deal.

SweetLee8 3PlayaWha?
April 29th, 2006, 4:38:08 AM
What kind of numbers do people expect of Bush as a rookie?

I think something along the lines of 500 yards rushing and 400 yards receiving sounds about right.

He's a poor mans Dave Meggett.

jjm19672000
April 29th, 2006, 6:20:38 AM
In all actuality, is it really a surprise that Houston went with Williams? Think about it. They have their franchise back in D Davis. Yes, they still suck enough to warrant the #1 pick in the draft, and Reggie Bush is the best player. However, at most He is a chang-of-pace back and a third-down back, roles for which you do not spend a first-round pick, let alone the #1 overall. In 1986, we spent a first-round pick on Ronnie Harmon. He turned out to be a subpar runner, but a great receiver. For that kind of role, you spend maybe a third-round at most, but not a first-rounder.

Sammy Avalon
April 29th, 2006, 6:24:06 AM
it's official

shotgun
April 29th, 2006, 6:26:53 AM
Mario milliams and the texans have agree on a 6 year 50 million contrac ...
and the saints said thay will take bush at # 2 and 5 other teams now trying to trade up for bush @ # 2 with the likes of the jets raiders packers .