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gibbons
April 27th, 2006, 11:35:24 PM
Comcast Sportsnet in Philthydelphia is reporting Eagles have contacted Bills about possible trade for the 8th pick. They want Ngata/ Bunkley.

35Pete
April 27th, 2006, 11:39:23 PM
Excellent. Now make them pay!

Refer them to the Feely trade as an example of fair compensation. :D

35Pete
April 27th, 2006, 11:39:44 PM
Ohh, link?

Evans 83
April 27th, 2006, 11:42:01 PM
It seems like every team is interested in something new every day.

Merk
April 27th, 2006, 11:46:15 PM
I dont think we will get a trade done w/ them



They are notorious for not being very willing to give up on draft picks

dwightdrane
April 28th, 2006, 12:28:04 AM
if we did a deal with them- draft picks only, what would we get from them?

and yes i could imagine philly trying to man-rape us.

PatQ
April 28th, 2006, 12:31:37 AM
If a trade with PHI was to happen, here's how I see it :
Going along with the scenario that we trade with Chicago (26 (700) for 42+73 (705))... I don't feel good about not having a 2nd round pick... so, here is another scenario involving PHI :

BUF gets : 14 (1100) + 45 (450) = 1550
PHI gets : 8 (1400) + 105 (84) + 134 (39) = 1523

At this point BUF has : 14, 26, 45, 70
@14: Eric Winston, OT
@26: Davin Joseph, OG
@45: John McCargo, DT
@70: Rod Wright, DT

That way, we adress the lines on day 1, and look for sleepers on day 2 with picks 143, 178, 216, 248.

buffan100
April 28th, 2006, 12:38:49 AM
Philly will offer us the #14 pick for the #8. Sounds like a fair trade.

PatQ
April 28th, 2006, 12:43:40 AM
There is a 300 value points differential between 8 & 14... they better come up with something more...

buffan100
April 28th, 2006, 12:48:51 AM
If a trade with PHI was to happen, here's how I see it :
Going along with the scenario that we trade with Chicago (26 (700) for 42+73 (705))... I don't feel good about not having a 2nd round pick... so, here is another scenario involving PHI :

BUF gets : 14 (1100) + 45 (450) = 1550
PHI gets : 8 (1400) + 105 (84) + 134 (39) = 1523

At this point BUF has : 14, 26, 45, 70
@14: Eric Winston, OT
@26: Davin Joseph, OG
@45: John McCargo, DT
@70: Rod Wright, DT

That way, we adress the lines on day 1, and look for sleepers on day 2 with picks 143, 178, 216, 248.

Good draft. We might be reaching for Winston at #14 though. Even with his stick going up. There is still a CHANCE we could get Bunkley or Justice at #14. We'll see

BillsCAfan
April 28th, 2006, 12:58:07 AM
If a trade with PHI was to happen, here's how I see it :
Going along with the scenario that we trade with Chicago (26 (700) for 42+73 (705))... I don't feel good about not having a 2nd round pick... so, here is another scenario involving PHI :

BUF gets : 14 (1100) + 45 (450) = 1550
PHI gets : 8 (1400) + 105 (84) + 134 (39) = 1523

At this point BUF has : 14, 26, 45, 70
@14: Eric Winston, OT
@26: Davin Joseph, OG
@45: John McCargo, DT
@70: Rod Wright, DT

That way, we adress the lines on day 1, and look for sleepers on day 2 with picks 143, 178, 216, 248.

Why would we draft 2 DTs in the top 70?

PatQ
April 28th, 2006, 1:06:42 AM
We need to address the lines... Give the lines some much needed talent...

We lost Adams, Edwards, Bannan... signed Triplett...
With McCargo, Wright, Anderson, Triplett, we have the making of a very good rotation...

PatQ
April 28th, 2006, 1:14:43 AM
Good draft. We might be reaching for Winston at #14 though. Even with his stick going up. There is still a CHANCE we could get Bunkley or Justice at #14. We'll see

I also think that Winston @14 is a bit of a reach, but I really think that the Bills really likes him... if Bunkley is still available @14, he is a no-brainer... and the rest of my 1st day comes like this...

@14 : Bunkley
@26 : Winston
@45 : McCargo
@70 : Charles Spencer, OG

I would be satisfied with something like this, but I really don't mind Winston @14...

BillsCAfan
April 28th, 2006, 1:17:43 AM
I also think that Winston @14 is a bit of a reach, but I really think that the Bills really likes him... if Bunkley is still available @14, he is a no-brainer... and the rest of my 1st day comes like this...

@14 : Bunkley
@26 : Winston
@45 : McCargo
@70 : Charles Spencer, OG

I would be satisfied with something like this, but I really don't mind Winston @14...

picking two DTs in the first 70 would be a waste of a pick, when we need to address the DE, Safety and LB positions as well.

Bunkley
Winston
Hodge/Kiwanuka/Simpson/Bing
Spencer

That would be much better, then you can look to add Harris or Mahelona later in the draft if you want DT depth.

1968_bills_fan
April 28th, 2006, 8:24:57 AM
picking two DTs in the first 70 would be a waste of a pick, when we need to address the DE, Safety and LB positions as well.

Bunkley
Winston
Hodge/Kiwanuka/Simpson/Bing
Spencer

That would be much better, then you can look to add Harris or Mahelona later in the draft if you want DT depth.

I think drafting two DT's before the first 70 is absolutely needed. We have one DT starter (dismissing Anderson as a backup) and would like to have 3-4 good ones as a rotation. We have a lot of DE's drafted 2nd round and lower and they do not dominate. We should get DT's in the first two rounds and change the personality of the D-line. Also the present DE's and DB's will look a lot better if the pass rush up the middle cuts 2-3 seconds off of the time that passes have to be defended.

PatQ
April 28th, 2006, 9:42:31 AM
I think drafting two DT's before the first 70 is absolutely needed. We have one DT starter (dismissing Anderson as a backup) and would like to have 3-4 good ones as a rotation. We have a lot of DE's drafted 2nd round and lower and they do not dominate. We should get DT's in the first two rounds and change the personality of the D-line. Also the present DE's and DB's will look a lot better if the pass rush up the middle cuts 2-3 seconds off of the time that passes have to be defended.


Agreed 100%:shake:

TRIPLE P
April 28th, 2006, 10:01:14 AM
I think drafting two DT's before the first 70 is absolutely needed. We have one DT starter (dismissing Anderson as a backup) and would like to have 3-4 good ones as a rotation. We have a lot of DE's drafted 2nd round and lower and they do not dominate. We should get DT's in the first two rounds and change the personality of the D-line. Also the present DE's and DB's will look a lot better if the pass rush up the middle cuts 2-3 seconds off of the time that passes have to be defended.


DT is only 1 position of need......

We also need a LB...specifically a MLB....bad.

And the problem is that a DT at 8 would be stupid..... if we can trade down, sure....but a DT is not worth the 8th pick....they are too hit or miss.

skoorah720
April 28th, 2006, 10:32:51 AM
About the Eagles interest...I heard they're interested in Bunkley or Justice. If we want to draft Bunkley then we shouldn't trade with them. I think the Bills will move from the 8th (1400) down to the 11th (1250) pick with St. Louis and also grab their 3rd round (215). Then after that they will move into the 26th spot by giving up our 2nd and one of our 3rds. This way we take Bunkley 11th and then line up to take an OT here. I could see Eric Winston or Marcus McNeill...however I think at least one of these two could be there when we pick 42nd, so the trade with Chicago doesn't make too much sense unless we're looking to take a DE like Lawson or Wimbley or Hali.

ddpderek
April 28th, 2006, 10:41:24 AM
I also think that Winston @14 is a bit of a reach, but I really think that the Bills really likes him... if Bunkley is still available @14, he is a no-brainer... and the rest of my 1st day comes like this...

@14 : Bunkley
@26 : Winston
@45 : McCargo
@70 : Charles Spencer, OG

I would be satisfied with something like this, but I really don't mind Winston @14...


ehhh I dont know if i like this one to much

#14 Justice
#26 Lawson
#45 Watson
#70 Spencer

ddpderek
April 28th, 2006, 10:42:25 AM
Oh and Screw Philly!!!!!

gilchristfan
April 28th, 2006, 10:55:24 AM
Philly will offer us the #14 pick for the #8. Sounds like a fair trade.


:D

That's about right. Their writers are cheap too. From Delaware online this morning:

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060428/SPORTS02/604280344/1035

(about half way down)

...The Eagles have three fourth-round picks this season, but that might not be attractive enough to package with a first-round pick to move up high enough to grab Ngata or Bunkley.

They also have potential trade bait in tackle Hollis Thomas, whom the team has reportedly given permission to seek a trade...

Moving up in the draft for a 4th round or two? Or an 11 year reserve DT?

don't think so.

Might
April 28th, 2006, 12:14:04 PM
Why would we draft 2 DTs in the top 70?

It's not a bad idea. You need a rotation. It's not like Larry Triplett has ever played more than 75% of the defensive snaps in a game.

SCBILLFAN1
April 28th, 2006, 1:48:31 PM
Screw that draft point system. I say we get their 1st and 2nd for our 1st or no trade. I would accept the Rams 1st and 3rd for our 8th, There is no way we trade down and give up any picks. There are 8 great players in this draft (according to scouts). We don't want number 8 but I'll bet there will be a bidding war if Cutler or Davis drops to 8.

CJBS
April 28th, 2006, 4:12:13 PM
I dont want Hodge the Iowa LB's arent super they have given all their potential used up. NEither one is aggresive enough. there is the GUy from Miami McIntosh who's good and the LB from Bama I like. but to get Thomas in a trade we could use that pick on someone else at 14 or then tradde down and get a second round pick again and get Winston in the first and take Bing in Round 2

voicekiller
April 28th, 2006, 4:57:11 PM
sounds like TM wants Bunkley...i dont think we'd trade our pick to let someone else get him just sounds stupid