Bills Trade News

[Merk]

Its from Insider so I will sum it up

-The Rams are interested in trading up w/ Buffalo or Detroit for Cutler
-Detroit is not real receptive to it b/c they really want Huff
-The Bills are said to be "far" more interested
-Dick Jauron wants to trade up for one of the two players he covets most OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Ohio State OLB A.J. Hawk.
-Marv Levy doesnt want to trade a second-round pick to move up for Ferguson or Hawk.
-Levy is far more receptive to trading down.
-Buffalo isn't as high on Haloti Ngata and Brodrick Bunkley as most are led to believe.
-Of the two though Levy prefers Ngata because of concerns regarding Bunkley's character and ability to adjust to cold winters in Buffalo.
-The coaching staff wants Bunkley because he's a far better fit in the new one-gap penetrating scheme.
-The reason trading down has become so much more attractive for the Bills is because they think they can get a similar value in the low teens as with the eighth pick. They think Ngata or Bunkley should still be on the board at 11

-The Eagles also have contacted the Bills for a potential trade.
-The Eagles want Justice and are afraid of other teams moving ahead of them
-They dont like this trade as much but if they did they would target 3 players Ernie Sims, Winston Justice, and Jimmy Williams.


-They also said that the Bills have really high grades on Cutler and Huff

[Bufsabresnu]

Got to love all the rumors that are floating around now.

[Merk]

Got to love all the rumors that are floating around now.



I agree




If nothing else its pretty entertaining

[Bufsabresnu]

I could actually see us trading down to 11 though. At that spot we should still be able to get either Justice or Bunkley.

[bigvinny]

I could see us taking huff, this guy is a stud, I know it may not be the top need but neither was willis when we took him in he 1st round. Modrak have both had good comments about hic character and leadership qualities.

[str8blazzen]

I agree




If nothing else its pretty entertaining


i like to hear these things thanks

[dwightdrane]

how legit are these rumors about d'brick & hawk?

[Merk]

how legit are these rumors about d'brick & hawk?



Depends on how legit you think ESPN Insider is




I give it 50/50

[IhatethePats]

-The reason trading down has become so much more attractive for the Bills is because they think they can get a similar value in the low teens as with the eighth pick. They think Ngata or Bunkley should still be on the board at 11



This quote is so true...I'd rather move back, D'Brick would be great but the first draft of any new regime is the most important, the more picks the better.

[gmbuffalo]

looks like marv and jauron are not in agreement about much in the draft. dj likes brick and hawk, marv wants to trade down. marv like ngata, jauron likes bunkley. personally, i would take hawk or brick over ngata or bunkley.

[gmbuffalo]

i wonder where modrak stands in all this. we will end up taking huff as a compromise.

[Merk]

i wonder where modrak stands in all this. we will end up taking huff as a compromise.


That might be the deciding factor



I think they all like Huff

[gmbuffalo]

or cutler...

[Dustybottoms]

or cutler...
Id rather hump a piece of splintered balsa wood.Have you guys seen this guy at all or is everyone just like hime because of what they heard on espn radio.I watched him play-NOT impressed.I watched the combine-Not impressed.Ingle Martin-impressive. Brody Croyal-Impressive. Vince Young-Stud

[Bufsabresnu]

I wonder how much is just a smoke screen from OBD.

[JWatts]

I found this on Great Blue North Draft Report

Rams looking to trade up for QB… There were several reports around earlier this evening suggesting that St. Louis, which holds the 11th pick in Saturday’s draft, is talking with Buffalo about trading up to the 8th spot in order to select Vanderbilt QB Jay Cutler. And despite moving back, the Bills would likely still be in position to have a shot at least one of this year’s top DTs, either Brodrick Bunkley of Florida State or Oregon’s Haloti Ngata.


http://www.gbnreport.com/

[D-Rocafella]

Is Bulger in a contract year or is the new staff in St. Louis not high on him. I personally view Bulger as a QB who is in the top half of the leauge. If it is the case that the new staff in St. Louis wants to make the change what chance do you think our offensive staff (which has ties to the Rams) would look into picking up Bulger?

[ddpderek]

I dont think Bulger be a real possibility ...

I love all this info

More and More I think we are taking Huff unless one of the elite guys slip to us.

Also the more I see Vince Young the more I want him and to dump JP off for a 4th rounder lol I know it wont happen but wow that be awesome.

If we draft Cutler I will hate the Bills for atleast a month... as i cant hate them for to long. Seriously tho it be horrible.

If we trade done St. Louis be perfect.

[junglesouljah]

I would be willing to trade both of our 3rd round picks to trade up to get D'Brickashaw Ferguson.(around # 2 or 3 overall) He will be a probowler for the next 10 years and make the life of who ever is our qb alot easier.

[Mainejays]

1) No way should we trade up, as much as I want D'Brick (I've already asked my wife if we can change our son's name to D'Brickashaw if we draft him). That second rounder is going to be a starter, either Bing, Spencer, Watson, Lutui, whoever, and we have too many holes.

2) No problem trading back with St. Louis. Two reasons - 1) the extra 2nd/3rd rounder we'd get; 2) if they get Cutler, Bulger will most likely be a FA next off season. If JP doesn't work, we can sign Bulger.

3) While I want the Bills to focus on the lines, I'm warming up to Huff with everything I've read/heard about him. If we draft him, though, we've GOT to go OL/DL with our second and both thirds.

[FknGvna]

I think it's a smokescreen. That guy Fitzgerald shocked Everybody, but he's in a new system. I don't think they want a QB, all they have is Jimmy Kennedy.

[1968_bills_fan]

I like Ngata because with him and another first day DT, we would remake our defense into an entirely new personality and all the other players would be better if the opponents offense had their first priority to be neutralizing our DT's. However, trading down and still getting one of the big 2 DT's (and an extra 1st day pick) would be a real coup too. I'm dreaming and hoping that could happen as well.

[jaymitch84]

personally, i would take hawk or brick over ngata or bunkley.

Obviously, but that's not all it is. It's using 2 picks to get hawk or brick or gaining a pick getting ngata or bunkley, which is a far different story.

[BillsfaninVirginia]

Wasn't Dick Jauren in Chicago when the Bears drafted Urlacher? So Ireally belive that DJ wants Hawk and that he would like to trade up to get him, but you know Marv is not going to do that. I guess and hope that the Bills would not do that until draft day, just to be sure D'Brick does not fall to 8.

[Bufsabresnu]

I doubt it very seriously that we trade up in the draft. I can however see us trade down to 11 or so, pick up some other picks and still get a quality player to help one of our lines.

[jaymitch84]

In the scheme of trying to trade up for AJ Hawk (or D'Brick perhaps), I was just messing around with the draft pick value chart, and I was trying to figure out various trades that would make sense for the Bills and Packers (assuming that would be the ideal place to jump to if we wanted one of them). This is the closest thing I could come up with that had equal value (with the difference being 2.5 points in favor of the Bills).

Bills Get:
1st round pick 5
Pick 104 (4th Round)

Packers Get:
1st round pick 8
Pick 70 (3rd Round)
Pick 105 (4th Round)
Pick 134 (5th Round)

Or, another simpler trade, and puts the Packers up 9:

Bills Get:
Pick 5

Packers Get:
Pick 8
Pick 73 (Third)
Pick 105 (Fourth)

In case you were wondering.

[dwightdrane]

In the scheme of trying to trade up for AJ Hawk (or D'Brick perhaps), I was just messing around with the draft pick value chart, and I was trying to figure out various trades that would make sense for the Bills and Packers (assuming that would be the ideal place to jump to if we wanted one of them). This is the closest thing I could come up with that had equal value (with the difference being 2.5 points in favor of the Bills).

Bills Get:
1st round pick 5
Pick 104 (4th Round)

Packers Get:
1st round pick 8
Pick 70 (3rd Round)
Pick 105 (4th Round)
Pick 134 (5th Round)

Or, another simpler trade, and puts the Packers up 9:

Bills Get:
Pick 5

Packers Get:
Pick 8
Pick 73 (Third)
Pick 105 (Fourth)

In case you were wondering.

although i adore hawk. that is a lot of picks to move up 3 spots!

[TRIPLE P]

IMO...Hawk is the ONLY can't miss player in this draft.

I would say he's 100% successful in the NFL.

For the position he'll play he doesn't have a weakness.

[skoorah720]

I agree Hawk is a stud and will be a terror on D. I can definately see the Bills moving down with St. Louis, but they'll definately wait awhile to see how the draft pans out...dont' be surprised if the Bills move down really far with say like Philly possibly to get a 2nd rounder out of the deal

[Merk]

I agree Hawk is a stud and will be a terror on D. I can definately see the Bills moving down with St. Louis, but they'll definately wait awhile to see how the draft pans out...dont' be surprised if the Bills move down really far with say like Philly possibly to get a 2nd rounder out of the deal



I agree any move that is made should be made w/in the 15 mins we are on the clock.



Unless they really blow us away w/ an offer

[1968_bills_fan]

We got a lot of holes. If Huff or Brick or Hawk drop to us by some fluke we should be very very very happy. We should wet our pants. We should savor the though of having them on our team. Next thing is we should trade that draft pick down, but trade down as if we were trading down the #3 or #4 pick in the draft and not #8. The difference between #4 and #8 (if you believe the charts) is an extra 2nd round pick. So we could change or #8 pick to something like 3 high picks- say a mid first round, and two mid second round and maybe promote one of our 3rd rounders to a 2nd round pick. That is instead of a single #8, we could have 4 players from the top 50. I would do it in a heartbeat. And change my pants.

[ksl66]

According to the Draft value chart:

1-8(8) Buffalo Bills= 1,400
1-11(11) St. Louis Rams= 1,250

Difference of 150 points

2-14(46) St. Louis Rams= 440
3-13(77) St. Louis Rams= 205
4-12(109) St. Louis Rams= 76
5-11(144) St. Louis Rams= 34

If the Bills are going to trade down I'd like to see them pick up at least the Rams 3rd rounder and possibly even the 5th.

[Flatlander]

The thing about trading down is that the talent level drops off quite a bit not long after we pick. There are a lot of teams that want to move up into the top 10 to get either Ngata or Bunkley. It would be risky to try and drop down and think that they'll still be around.

[Smapdi]

If there is a game changer at 8 (Dbrick, Hawk, Huff, Davis) you stay there and pick them without a doubt. If Cutler and Young are still on the board which means those mentioned early are gone you trade down. I wouldn't mind seeing Winston Justice in a bills uni mid round.

[BillsCAfan]

The thing about trading down is that the talent level drops off quite a bit not long after we pick. There are a lot of teams that want to move up into the top 10 to get either Ngata or Bunkley. It would be risky to try and drop down and think that they'll still be around.

Not really. It depends where you trade down. If we trade with the Rams, and go to #11, thats only 3 spots lower. When we pick, Justice, Ngata and Bunkley might all still be on the board.

Rams come up and pick Culter
Lions will go and pick Huff
Arizona is the wildcard here. If they pick Ngata, we still have a chance at Bunkley or Justice. If they pick Justice, we still have our choice of the top 2 DTs, and so on.

Worst case scenario, someone trades with Lions and Arizona, and takes two of those 3 players, and yet, we'll still have a choice of either Bunkley, Ngata or Jusitce.

The Rams trade would be a great trade for us, and if the Rams really want Cutler, they will have to trade to #8 to be comfortable, cuz the lions, cardinals and even the Bills are all places that would consider Culter. It makes sense for this trade to go through, but we'll see. All 3 QBs can be off the board by the time we pick anyway, so this would all be moot.

[The Beef]

cutler and huff are the two biggest wild cards for the bills, and not because they could be the pick. the bills should be praying huff and cutler both somehow sneak into the top 7. if that happens, you'd have to assume the either d'brickshaw, hawk, or vernon davis would still be on the board at that point. if the bills don't really want davis, he could be had for a fortune at the 8 spot.

barring anything drastic, i expect huff to be the pick. main reason i don't want ngata is that he played a leading role in reggie bush's main piece of work, the oregon highlight reel. bunkley adjusting to winters is a joke. willis is from the u. if you have runningback form south florida, you aren't going to worry about a defensive tackle 'adjusting' to winters. gtf outta here.

[rufc05]

Id rather hump a piece of splintered balsa wood.Have you guys seen this guy at all or is everyone just like hime because of what they heard on espn radio.I watched him play-NOT impressed.I watched the combine-Not impressed.Ingle Martin-impressive. Brody Croyal-Impressive. Vince Young-Stud

I don't like the idea of drafting cutler, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you on croyle and young. Croyle did not have a good senior year at all. I saw him play in person, he looked like horsecrap. Vince Young will be a ryan leaf bust.

[buffan100]

I don't like the idea of drafting cutler, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you on croyle and young. Croyle did not have a good senior year at all. I saw him play in person, he looked like horsecrap. Vince Young will be a ryan leaf bust.

Brodie was #2 in the nation in TD to INT ratio. What game did you see him suck in?

[jaymitch84]

The thing about trading down is that the talent level drops off quite a bit not long after we pick.

According Mel Kiper, this is true. He says there are 8 elite players in this draft. The Bills pick 8th. That means they are in position to get an elite player (whose name is Michael Huff).

[Dustybottoms]

According Mel Kiper, this is true. He says there are 8 elite players in this draft. The Bills pick 8th. That means they are in position to get an elite player (whose name is Michael Huff).
I have a feeling you might be right about this one.He is one hell of an athleet,but its kind of risky drafting a secondary having not seen him against NFL tallent.

[Dustybottoms]

Vince Young will be a ryan leaf bust.
I origonaly thought this also but now im sold on him.But i saw some tape of his work out and some scouting thing (not the combine)he made all the other QBs look realy bad.I was most impressed with his accuracy long ball, out patterns ,and throwing on the run.JMO i think he is gona get it done.Take a close look he is not just a running QB with mediocre throwing skills.