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MVP
April 21st, 2006, 10:03:56 PM
Talking Draft with Levy and Modrak
by Chris Brown, Lead Journalist

The Bills held their annual draft luncheon and several topics concerning the club's positional needs and the talent and abilities of various were discussed by General Manager Marv Levy and Assistant General Manager Tom Modrak.

Below are some of the more noteworthy responses from the two members of the Bills' front office as they answered questions from the Western New York media.

Marv Levy's comment highlights from the Bills Draft luncheon
Where they're at in the final evaluation process right now

ML: "We're in the process of fine tuning grades. There are so many elements that go into picking the players besides athletic ability like performance, character assessments and medical condition to name a few. We find we're pretty much through the initial covering of the offense. We have just a few more offensive linemen that we'll be covering. We'll be going heavily into the defensive side of it next week."

Will you have final say on who is selected?
ML: "I'm never going to bring it down to a final say. I think in the 12 years that I coached here I can only remember one time where I said, 'No we're going to take this guy.' And that was Shane Conlan who we took instead of some guy that wound up going to jail."

Do you feel you'll come out of draft with some offensive and defensive linemen?
ML: "I think we will, certainly. That's my guess. I can't tell you exactly who we're going to take or what our strategy is going to be because they're affected by what our opponents, all 31 of them do."

What's your philosophy on addressing the offensive and defensive lines?
ML: "On the defensive line you need depth. You can no longer play with your starting four. You have to play in waves of defensive linemen. I don't care how great a miler somebody might be because if you have four guys each run a 440-yard dash they're going to be faster than the fastest miler."

"On the offensive line the one caution is he isn't going to do it this year very often. The offensive lineman is rarely going to be a quick fix unless he's a Tony Boselli or Anthony Munoz."

How do you approach your pick at 8 knowing there's a possibility that a number of trades could happen in front of you?
ML: "My opinion is don't try to be too smart with all the dealing. We're not going in with the philosophy that we're going to wheel and deal on draft day. Maybe we're more likely to trade down on draft day to be honest with you. On draft day if we're knocked out with somebody that's there then fine."

If you trade down will it be because you want more players that come cheaper?
ML: "It won't be a move to cheapen the price we pay for players if we move down. It would be a move down if at 8 there's no one that really knocks us out any more than a guy we can get four spaces later. That's what would motivate us."

Tom Modrak's comment highlights from the Bills Draft luncheon

Will the new schemes affect their grading of players?
TM: "Somewhat. Initially we talk with the coaches and try to get definitions of what they're looking for. Even now we're still talking about whether or not a guy fits. That's when we really rely on the coaches and they do a great job of helping us identify the traits that they want. That's what is happening right now as much as anything. We try to paint a picture of what it is and see how he fits. There are guys on our board that are down a little bit, but will go up a bit because they fit for us."

Is there offensive line depth in Rounds 2, 3, 4?
TM: "I think it's decent. The difficult part of that question is if there is a good position, like cornerback is this year, but there are other positions that aren't strong at all, like if there are no wide receivers then there will be a run on cornerbacks sooner to fill the void and it will make that list of corners shorter."

"The big guys are going to go. That old axiom is true and teams try to get their offensive and defensive linemen early. There will be a number in those rounds so I could see it (10 coming off the board.)"

Is there anybody besides D'Brickashaw Ferguson on the offensive line that's a top ten value?
TM: "Not at this point. He is the clear top lineman and after him there is a separation."

Is Winston Justice a top 15 or 20 pick?
TM: "I think that's where he'll go. If I was doing my board I'd feel pretty good that he'd go in the top 20."

Are you less likely to take a skill position player if one slips instead of offensive or defensive lineman in light of what happened to your lines last year?
TM: "First, we do need to address the offensive and defensive lines. When we made those picks they were made based on talent and people we liked and for need at the time. I don't know that the process of trying to rebuild your offensive and defensive lines ever ends in terms of adding people to it. You've got four or five on the field all the time and you're always in a rotation situation particularly on the defensive line. That's a fair assumption that we want to get better and add to them."

If Vernon Davis slips to 8, would he be hard for you to pass up?TM: "It would be hard to pass up. He's a talented guy. That's one of those decisions where we'd take the whole 15 minutes. He's a very talented guy that you don't get that often. We have some players (at tight end) now and we're in better shape than we were."

What is your assessment of Brodrick Bunkley?
TM: "He's a high-motor guy who is a three-technique who could be a one (technique). He had great workouts and a very good Senior Bowl. He competed well at the Senior Bowl, had a good career at Florida State. He's athletic and has size. He's quick enough to be a three technique, he's a guy that needs to have some quickness off the ball, but he's stout enough that he can hold up as a one, so that's an advantage for him."

Can Bunkley handle a steady diet of nose tackle in the NFL?
TM: "I don't know if anybody can anymore. At that position you want a rotation going as much as you can. 60 or 65 plays for those big guys are awful tough because they wear down. But he could have his share of regular reps at a good level."

Is Haloti Ngata a fit (for Buffalo)?
TM: "Yes. He's a little bit different than Bunkley. Ngata is pretty much a one or two gap, run down plugger, push the pocket kind of guy. Bunkley is more of an edge guy. But Ngata is (a fit.)"

Is Michael Huff a corner or a safety?
TM: "On some boards he probably is a corner. On our board he is a safety, but that doesn't mean he couldn't play corner. At the very least from the safety position he could step up and play the third wideout which would keep you from making a substitution. He's athletic and a bright articulate kid. We had him in for a visit and everything we've been able to get on him it's obvious that he's a guy whose mind is on football. He's a very good athlete who has good speed and ran in the 4.3s."
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l3ills
April 21st, 2006, 10:09:12 PM
sounds like its between Bunkley and Nagata.

coastal
April 21st, 2006, 10:37:50 PM
His most glowing comments came when talking about Huff.

MVP
April 21st, 2006, 10:39:33 PM
So we know Justice is off the list, we know we will have either Davis, Huff, Ngata, or Bunkley.

coastal
April 21st, 2006, 10:40:06 PM
I hate the Bunkley pick at 8.

You can see where he says he's a three technique guy (just like Triplett). He does relent and say he can play the one technique as you now need waves of guys to have a solid dline.

superman
April 21st, 2006, 10:43:56 PM
2 months ago Marv says D-lineman in the first rd have a low success rate. I think Marv and Tom arent that excited about whats going to be there at 8 for them, they seem like they really want to trade down. I been feeling the same way to, the guys who will be left dont do much to excite me.

Stealth01
April 21st, 2006, 10:44:24 PM
And Huff.

BillsCAfan
April 21st, 2006, 10:47:00 PM
My favorite part of press conference was the talk of trading down.

We can trade down, pick up an extra pick in the first day, and still have a shot at either Bunk, Ngata or Justice if we wanted to.

gilchristfan
April 21st, 2006, 10:57:15 PM
His most glowing comments came when talking about Huff.


Boooorring.

We need to draft someone who can beat the crap out of people.

Kuharski
April 21st, 2006, 10:58:59 PM
Geez, they sound like lawyers. Can anyone tell who they like the best. Levy is so good he should be Bush's new press secretary. I would like to hear their comments about the S.I. swimsuit edition concerning which girls they would pick and why!!!!

coastal
April 21st, 2006, 11:04:30 PM
Boooorring.

We need to draft someone who can beat the crap out of people.
I have to disagree with you on some level here Gil.

I totally buy off on the need for some "shock and awe" on the interior of our lines. You know that.

The problem is that Huff is one of those players that I think Marv Levy would fall in love with.

Huff starts as soon as he is drafted and barring injury, keeps on starting until his enshrinement in Canton.

The other player he probably feels the same way about is AJ Hawk.

I will bet all my chips that if Huff or Hawk are still on the board, that we pass on Ngata and Bunkley.

MVP
April 21st, 2006, 11:11:57 PM
I will bet all my chips that if Huff or Hawk are still on the board, that we pass on Ngata and Bunkley.
I don't see how we could pick Hawk (I just don't) Huff is my pick!

CoachC.
April 21st, 2006, 11:23:52 PM
A couple impressions I got from that:

--Barring a MAJOR upset of someone being on the board that they thought would not be at 8 (Brick, for example) - we're trading down.

--If we do trade down, it won't be many spots (4 or 5 at the most).

--I think they're preparing now for life after Nate Clements (maybe this season, maybe soon after).

--They love Huff and they really like Davis. I think they're going to be beating themselves up deciding if taking one of those guys first (if he is there) is worth sacraficing passing on a DL.

--No one even asked about the QB position. I would have liked to know their thoughts on the three guys and/or the next wave.

CoachC.
April 21st, 2006, 11:48:40 PM
I hate the Bunkley pick at 8.

You can see where he says he's a three technique guy (just like Triplett). He does relent and say he can play the one technique as you now need waves of guys to have a solid dline.

Yeah.

Why would we play Bunkley at the one-technique? If he's a pass rushing DT, and that's what we need, then he needs to play the three technique.

The one technique really has to try and keep guys off the MLB. So, if he's occupying guys, then he can't rush the passer. Plus, I really haven't thought of him as a "one" at the NFL level because of his size. Maybe good for college at that spot, but not the NFL.

If they plan on taking this guy to play the 1-technique, it's a waste at #8. He'd have much more value to us as a 3-technique.

Merk
April 21st, 2006, 11:49:41 PM
A couple impressions I got from that:

--They love Huff and they really like Davis. I think they're going to be beating themselves up deciding if taking one of those guys first (if he is there) is worth sacraficing passing on a DL.




Thats what I got from it


I think they love the fact that almost every media outlet has them picking a DT or Justice. This is the only time I have really seen them tip there hand that they might go another way. Its also a good way to raise the value of a pick

gilchristfan
April 22nd, 2006, 12:42:16 AM
I have to disagree with you on some level here Gil.

I totally buy off on the need for some "shock and awe" on the interior of our lines. You know that.

The problem is that Huff is one of those players that I think Marv Levy would fall in love with.

Huff starts as soon as he is drafted and barring injury, keeps on starting until his enshrinement in Canton.

The other player he probably feels the same way about is AJ Hawk.

I will bet all my chips that if Huff or Hawk are still on the board, that we pass on Ngata and Bunkley.


I've already said what I feel about safeties in general. I just couldn't pull the trigger on one at No. 8. But that's my personal biases against safeties showing through.

coastal
April 22nd, 2006, 12:52:34 AM
--They love Huff and they really like Davis.
Huff is their guy. If Davis falls to them, which I think is still very likely, they will listen to all comers as far as a trade is concerned...

"We'll use all our time." TM


I don't see them picking Davis if someone offers a trade down with an additional second round pick.


--No one even asked about the QB position. I would have liked to know their thoughts on the three guys and/or the next wave.I know. I just don't see them takinga QB like Croyle this year though, especially considering that they were able to bring in Nall. It was the same as drafting a Croyle in the second.

ThomasVanek
April 22nd, 2006, 2:07:44 AM
It will be either Davis or Huff IMO.

D-Rocafella
April 22nd, 2006, 2:28:03 AM
The smartest thing you can do is put out good reviews on as much players as possible leading up to the draft. So when we pick at nine and guys like Ngata, Bunkley, and Huff are all on the board we can get as much as possible in return for a trade down if tha's what we are looking for. Kinda of like what happened with the Browns and Lions a few years back. The Browns really wanted Winslow but the Lions were ahead of them and they feared the Lions might draft him. So they overpaied to make sure they got there guy. If we put out glowing reccomendations on as much guys as possible then teams might get parinoid as to them thinking we are going to draft there guy so a team that drafts only a few spots behind us is willing to give up their 2nd rounder just to move up a few spots.

B-loCrew
April 22nd, 2006, 3:22:57 AM
I thought it was pretty funny that Marve referred to Leinhart as Max Leinhart, that may show that we are not looking to closely at QB's.

The Beef
April 22nd, 2006, 3:52:11 AM
ha coastal, sorry about the bunkley pick. to me, with all the talk of rotation on the dline, they would pick bunkley if they absolutely had to. since he's high motor, and doesn't look like a willy mamouth in the face like ngata, i'd imagine they think they could get more proudcitve snaps out of bunkley. i may be an idiot.

if vernon davis is on the board, we're trading down. modrak and marv will try to cash in with some extra picks. he may be th eone player at 8 where you can still sell and get a lot of value in return.

don't know why royal, everett and euhus makes everybody comfortable.

nate clements may be traded draft day. i could definetly see him being pawned off for an early to mid second rounder. if we managed to trade out of 8 and get an extra second, and deal nate for a 2, that would be interesting.

B-loCrew
April 22nd, 2006, 4:00:01 AM
I don't know if I agree with tradin Nasty Nate. We have adequate depth at the CB position, but nobody who can step in and fill Nates role. If we trade him we will just have to draft another unproven lower quality DB to fill the void. Unless Nate gets unruly and requests an exorbatent salary figure then I think we should do everything in our power to retain him since he is a key element to building our defense back up to its original prowess.

buffan100
April 22nd, 2006, 5:03:56 AM
Sounds like we'd take a bad deal to move down to #9-#12 (3rd rounder?). figuring a player we'd be OK with at #8 will be there at #9-12 - Bunkley, Ngata, or Huff.

buffan100
April 22nd, 2006, 5:06:12 AM
I know. I just don't see them takinga QB like Croyle this year though, especially considering that they were able to bring in Nall. It was the same as drafting a Croyle in the second.

Nall is not as good as Croyle. This Nall guy is nothing. Stop getting excited. Not sure we'l draft a QB though since cutting any of the 3 would COST us against the 2006 cap.

superman
April 22nd, 2006, 8:33:46 AM
I've already said what I feel about safeties in general. I just couldn't pull the trigger on one at No. 8. But that's my personal biases against safeties showing through.

I agree.

I will admit that I didnt see Huff play this year so I dont know much about him. But a safety at #8???

Dr. Who
April 22nd, 2006, 11:23:14 AM
Would you draft a young Ronnie Lott at 8?

superman
April 22nd, 2006, 12:12:00 PM
Would you draft a young Ronnie Lott at 8?


Oh please, we could play that game all day.

-knowing what you know now would you draft "so and so" with the 8th pick.-

You have no gaurantee this guy will turn out to be Ronnie Lott. Thats what the Cowboys said when they drafted Roy Williams...Roy Williams is good but he's no Ronnie Lott and not worth the 6th pick the Cowboys used on him.

jjm19672000
April 22nd, 2006, 4:00:06 PM
Would you draft a young Ronnie Lott at 8?

Huff is not a young Ronnie Lott before he plays a down for $$$