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BillsRGreat
March 11th, 2006, 8:43:18 PM
I'd say we should. Everyone's talking about how good this kid is, and how he may be better than Lienart/Young. If he falls to us, Why not???
:bills:

JLB
March 11th, 2006, 9:02:25 PM
Absolutely but if he does fall to us the offers might be difficult to pass on. The best of both worlds it would be great to add some picks.

fume927
March 11th, 2006, 9:07:47 PM
absolutely not. we drafted a qb in losman 2 years ago in the first round. what you do if see if neone will offer trades for him

Junior
March 11th, 2006, 9:15:06 PM
Sure draft him, play him and when he stinks it up, put Holcomb in, isnt that what we did this year anyway, yeah then we will let Holcomb start the next season, never know what Cutler could do, throw him away, and start all over again.

Christ, just play Losman already and see if the guy can play.

Mouldsie
March 11th, 2006, 10:53:25 PM
no.

BillsRGreat
March 11th, 2006, 11:40:34 PM
Sure draft him, play him and when he stinks it up, put Holcomb in, isnt that what we did this year anyway, yeah then we will let Holcomb start the next season, never know what Cutler could do, throw him away, and start all over again.

Christ, just play Losman already and see if the guy can play.

he can't

fume927
March 12th, 2006, 12:57:08 AM
it is stupid to think that the bills are thinking of bringing in cutler. that would be the biggest waste of a draft pick ever imaginable. there are so many more holes we need to fill that we should see if losman is the real thing before we make some stupid move like that

GvilleBill
March 12th, 2006, 1:08:18 AM
it is stupid to think that the bills are thinking of bringing in cutler. that would be the biggest waste of a draft pick ever imaginable. there are so many more holes we need to fill that we should see if losman is the real thing before we make some stupid move like that
Amen

BillsFan0688
March 12th, 2006, 1:31:24 AM
Absolutely not. We have other holes to fill plus I wouldn't be as sold on Cutler as people want you to be.

Draft a position of need (which isn't QB) or trade down.

B-loCrew
March 12th, 2006, 6:51:49 AM
no.
take a trade down if it is offered, if not take the top player in a need position

Overdue Bills
March 12th, 2006, 8:49:20 AM
No - trade down or if there is no good offer, take Huff.

gmbuffalo
March 12th, 2006, 2:04:35 PM
we do not need cutler. i know kiper is not completely sold on him.

Merk
March 12th, 2006, 2:39:57 PM
no.

GvilleBill
March 12th, 2006, 2:41:02 PM
no thanks
All we are saying... is give JP a chance...

M76
March 12th, 2006, 3:01:14 PM
losman.. what about losman? give the guy a full season or two! its not like we have an all pro team anyway

Scooby77
March 12th, 2006, 5:29:20 PM
Trade up and get Mario Williams or D'Brick, and give Losman a chance.

During the combine, it struck me how many times I heard people say "this guy is comparable to Brett Favre." Hell, they said the exact same thing about JP Losman...so why start again? Let's give Losman a chance. Great arm, very mobile...once a coach stays more than one season and Losman has some stability he may start to shine.

BillsRGreat
March 12th, 2006, 6:07:01 PM
Trade up and get Mario Williams or D'Brick, and give Losman a chance.

During the combine, it struck me how many times I heard people say "this guy is comparable to Brett Favre." Hell, they said the exact same thing about JP Losman...so why start again? Let's give Losman a chance. Great arm, very mobile...once a coach stays more than one season and Losman has some stability he may start to shine.

it is stupid to think that the bills are thinking of bringing in cutler. that would be the biggest waste of a draft pick ever imaginable. there are so many more holes we need to fill that we should see if losman is the real thing before we make some stupid move like that

Wow, this is some real confidence in Losman....
"He may start to shine..." May is an uncertainty, we don't know if this guy is gonna be a bust or not, and from everything i've seen, he hasn't done to much to change my mind.

"see if losman is the real thing before..." Again, your advertising wasting a year to see if this kid develops...

Point being no one is compeltely sold on J.P. Yet if another chance qb is given to us we should pass the chance up?

Why not take Cutler, if given the oppurtity, and if J.P. works out, we could trade Cutler in the future, and if JP doesn't work out.. Cutler had some time to learn on the bench before making his mark....

fume927
March 12th, 2006, 10:38:47 PM
why not take cutler you ask?

BECAUSE ITS ****ING WASTING A DRAFT PICK. WE HAVE A PRETTY SHITTY TEAM ALREADY. WE CANT BE THROWING AWAY DRAFT PICKS ON 3 OR 4 YR PROJECTS. WE NEED TO DRAFT FOR NEED. INCASE YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS IT FOLLLOWS LIKE THIS. EVERY POSITION ON THE OLINE, TE, DT, DE, SAFETY.

the thought of drafting cutler is just stupid. i thank god that all the people who want him are not gm

another thing. drafting cutler and starting him right away is also wasting a year because hes gonna need to develop into an nfl qb too. it takes time. no quarterback leads their team too a superbowl win their first year in the league. jp losman is not ben roethlisberger, cutler is not roethlisberger, and the bills are not the steelers

pthree420
March 12th, 2006, 11:59:06 PM
Please no Cutler. I'm Hoping the Jets or Dolphins take this guy. Hes the workout warrior only getting attention because Young and Leinhart arent working out. I hope the Bills stay at 8 or trade down and pick up more draft picks. Best case is d'Brick falling in our laps if the Jets pass on him he could be ours.

brewman74
March 13th, 2006, 12:10:38 AM
Sure draft him, play him and when he stinks it up, put Holcomb in, isnt that what we did this year anyway, yeah then we will let Holcomb start the next season, never know what Cutler could do, throw him away, and start all over again.

Christ, just play Losman already and see if the guy can play.well said. That is just a typical question from this board. Rediculous

treydawg
March 13th, 2006, 12:33:53 AM
Please no Cutler. I'm Hoping the Jets or Dolphins take this guy. Hes the workout warrior only getting attention because Young and Leinhart arent working out. I hope the Bills stay at 8 or trade down and pick up more draft picks. Best case is d'Brick falling in our laps if the Jets pass on him he could be ours.

BINGO!

Hello Kyle Boller

shotgun
March 13th, 2006, 2:30:38 AM
we got a qb in IT WE TRUST !!!

adporter59
March 13th, 2006, 4:39:13 PM
Hell No!!!

CBennett
March 13th, 2006, 5:16:47 PM
Absolutely NOT. #1 I don't call it a "fall" if he goes to #8 I've seen ONLY 1 mock with him going to Jets at the #4 spot and EVERY other mock has him going anywhere from 9-16 with most being 12 or 16 so since ONLY 1 mock had him ahead of #8 I will think that the MAJORITY rules and he will be taken later...and no I don't go after him im still not sold on him and he had a poor senior bowl and the Combine did nothing to "improve" on his disposition. So I say ABSOLUTELY NO! had we NOT taken JP id be thinking differently but right now IMO Cuttler=JP and is no better cause he would just be another unproven rookie..just like JP was. And IMO due to Mularkeys stupidity to just stick with the kid and let him get experience and take his lumps we really don't know much more than B4.

buffan100
March 18th, 2006, 4:23:16 AM
I saw one Mock (CNNSI) with Cuter at #3. With the Jets/Saints out of the QB picture though the Bills might be wise to show some interest in Cutler at #8 so teams #10 and down give us a call.

I think most on the board would agree that Bunkley would be a perfect fit, but not at #8. Regardless of where we moved down to we'd want at least a 3rd rounder for making that move.

kdhammond
March 18th, 2006, 5:30:31 AM
Sure draft him, play him and when he stinks it up, put Holcomb in, isnt that what we did this year anyway, yeah then we will let Holcomb start the next season, never know what Cutler could do, throw him away, and start all over again.

Christ, just play Losman already and see if the guy can play.

Great post! I am sooo tired of listening to people throw out the names of any available QB and say "he must be better than Losman". I am sure some here would want to bring in Harrington and I have already seen people saying the Bills should have traded for Patrick Ramsey. What? Both of those guys had far more time to learn and opportunities to play to prove whether they could perform or not than Losman's 7 starts - but, they have far more appeal to the fickle folks here.

There is a lot of "the grass is always greener elsewhere" around here. I am shocked that there aren't posts saying how Miami is going to dominate now that they signed LJ Shelton. Hey, if the Bills had traded for Culpepper there would have been many posts complaining that they threw away a 2nd round pick on a guy with no knee, but with Miami picking him up, it was a brilliant move that the Bills were too cheap to make.

I agree with Junior, play Losman for the year and see if he looks like he can be the guy or not. You have to know that playing any young QB is going to be frustrating at times while they learn.

llcheatom
March 23rd, 2006, 9:51:24 AM
are you stupid

voicekiller
March 23rd, 2006, 10:45:07 AM
no way...we need more help in other places DL and OL remain top priority...then saftey...but if hawk falls to us id take him in a heartbeat

Dean in LA
March 23rd, 2006, 4:51:49 PM
If Cutler is available at #8, then trade down.

Jayhawk
March 23rd, 2006, 5:21:43 PM
no.

kdhammond
March 23rd, 2006, 6:58:11 PM
Sure draft him, play him and when he stinks it up, put Holcomb in, isnt that what we did this year anyway, yeah then we will let Holcomb start the next season, never know what Cutler could do, throw him away, and start all over again.

Christ, just play Losman already and see if the guy can play.

Junior: I am on the same page.

Cutler is quite similar to Losman. Both played at lesser schools, both have great arms, both are big, Losman is more athletic (good trait to have with the Bills OL), but Cutler is supposed to be the better leader.

Well, all of these things are hard to quantify, especially leadership ability. Given the similarities, why do people want to give up on Losman after 7 freaking starts and take another guy who will surely take 2-3 years to grow into the job???

Losman's stats in his 2nd year of starting in college were much much better than his first year (surprise, surprise). Why not see if/how much he improves this year?

Oh yeah, Kelly Holcomb the career backup should start because he gives the woeful Bills roster the better chance to nudge out the Jets for 3rd in the division at 7-9.

Get over it folks. This is not a playoff team in 2006, even if Joe Montana were in his prime and QB of this lot. Draft a couple OL in the 1st 3 rounds, put them in and let them take their lumps this year with Losman. See how they grow and see if 2007 could be better. -OR- Play a bunch of experienced vets with no upside and go 6-10 or 7-9 and pretend that is great.

fume927
March 23rd, 2006, 7:51:45 PM
Junior: I am on the same page.

Cutler is quite similar to Losman. Both played at lesser schools, both have great arms, both are big, Losman is more athletic (good trait to have with the Bills OL), but Cutler is supposed to be the better leader.

Well, all of these things are hard to quantify, especially leadership ability. Given the similarities, why do people want to give up on Losman after 7 freaking starts and take another guy who will surely take 2-3 years to grow into the job???

Losman's stats in his 2nd year of starting in college were much much better than his first year (surprise, surprise). Why not see if/how much he improves this year?

Oh yeah, Kelly Holcomb the career backup should start because he gives the woeful Bills roster the better chance to nudge out the Jets for 3rd in the division at 7-9.

Get over it folks. This is not a playoff team in 2006, even if Joe Montana were in his prime and QB of this lot. Draft a couple OL in the 1st 3 rounds, put them in and let them take their lumps this year with Losman. See how they grow and see if 2007 could be better. -OR- Play a bunch of experienced vets with no upside and go 6-10 or 7-9 and pretend that is great.


agreed, but apparently some people on this board think if holcombs the starter then this teams headed to the playoffs next year and starting losman next year is wasting a year.

Jayhawk
March 23rd, 2006, 8:57:55 PM
JP is the man

sdolan11
March 23rd, 2006, 10:04:16 PM
We aren't drafting a QB . . .especially now that we signed Nall . . . period. We are sitting pretty the way I see it . . . a guy that we didn't think could fall - may fall to us(D'Brick, Hawk, Williams), if not . . . trade the pick . . get another 3rd or 4th round pick, and build this team using this draft as a foundation.