Bunkley vs. Ngata

[Figurita20]

Here is a link with the combine numbers of every routine ran by the rookies.

http://www.nfldraft**********/ratings/nflcombinebypos.php?draftyear=2006&GenPos=DT&sortorder=ten&order=ASC

They have similar numbers on every category except the 40 time, which if you ask me is not very important for the defensive tackle position.

I thought Bunkley would smoke Ngata ouf of the water in the 10 and 20 yard dash but that was not the case:

10 yard dash: Ngata 1.73 - Bunkley 1.70
20 yard dash: Ngata 2.96 - Bunkely 2.91

Anyway, interesting data nontheless.

[jaymitch84]

If Bunkley is not much of a drop off from Ngata and the Bills become set on a DT, could they consider trading down a few spots to pick up some more later picks (followed by the drafting of Bunkley in the early teens)?

[Figurita20]

Hey jaymitch, does the link work for you?

[jaymitch84]

No.

[FknGvna]

I don't care about the numbers at all, I don't care that Bunkley is cut like a rug. Biggie's doing what all the other DTs are doing with 30 extra pounds. 'cept bench. Bunk beat him there, but only cuz he got short(er) arms.

[treydawg]

And Bunkley was also around .2 faster than 'Biggie' in the 40. Big difference. Just because he does it with 30 more pounds, wtf does that say for production on the field?

[Mainejays]

If we get Ryan Pickett, forget DT and draft Vernon Davis.

[Buffalo1]

What do we need Vernon Davis for WE GOT ROBERT ROYAL. Yesssssssss.

[FknGvna]

His highlights are impressive and dispite the fact being double teamed his entire career, he almost had as many solo tackles as Bunkley.

[BTKMTG]

Ngata is the type of player we could use on the D-line... If not take Huff if he is available

[Hsker4Life]

And Bunkley was also around .2 faster than 'Biggie' in the 40. Big difference. Just because he does it with 30 more pounds, wtf does that say for production on the field?


How often do you see a DT running 40 yards downfield?

[brewman74]

If we get Ryan Pickett, forget DT and draft Vernon Davis.If he is available, i agree. He would be an impact player.

[FknGvna]

Robert Royal is an 'impact' Blocker, Everett will catch the passes.

[GvilleBill]

Robert Royal is an impact Blocker, Everett will catch the passes.
Do you have a link to something that backs that up? All I've seen was the Scouts Inc. one that sure didn't paint him as an impact blocker. I hope that he is a great blocker, otherwise I'm not sold on his signing.

[FknGvna]

Sorry, I was emphasizing the word 'impact.'

[brewman74]

Do you have a link to something that backs that up? All I've seen was the Scouts Inc. one that sure didn't paint him as an impact blocker. I hope that he is a great blocker, otherwise I'm not sold on his signing.Go to google and put in2002 NFL draft. First result should be a SI.com website. Go to round 5 and read the 25th pick. It says he is a good blocker but he is slow.

[Zan186]

Ngata is pretty much gonna be a Perenial Probowl player. I think he could easily be the number 2 talent in the draft.
Bush, yeah in college, but NFL everyone is faster.
Leinhart and Young - QB is hit and miss
Mario Williams - best talent in the draft
Vernon Davis and Ngata are next!

Hawk will be good but not as huge as Ngata

[FknGvna]

1. Haloti Ngata, 6-4, 336, Oregon

There are questions about his consistency and effort but not his strength. Double-teamed on virtually every snap, he alternated between brilliance and what seemed to be complacency. Rarely stopped by one player. 2005 was his most dominant season. First Oregon player since 1962 to earn consensus All-America honors, posting 61 tackles, nine tackles for loss and three sacks. Was recognized with the Pacific-10's defensive co-MVP honors.

2. Brodrick Bunkley, 6-2, 300, Florida State

Explosive interior defender who led nation's defensive linemen in tackles for loss. Came to Florida State as one of the nation's elite talents and emerged only last season as a starter. The defensive tackles he backed up — Travis Johnson and Darnell Dockett — were first- and second-round picks, respectively. Dominated early practices at the Senior Bowl but was inconsistent after that. No doubts about his potential, but some still doubt his skill as a pro.


Wasn't that like 11?!?! What's the difference. Here's the difference:

Double-teamed on virtually every snap=Ngata:)

emerged only last season as a starter,Dominated early practices at the Senior Bowl but was inconsistent after that=Bunkley:(

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-defensive-line-profile_x.htm

[ddpderek]

Ngata - Gotta go with him. I love his speed for a big man. I want him I do not care what anyone says.

[FknGvna]

Ngata - Gotta go with him. I love his speed for a big man. I want him I do not care what anyone says.

No one even comes close.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-positional-rankings.htm

[Mouldsie]

Speed is not as important as agility. Bunkley owned the cone drill.

[FknGvna]

On the field:

Ngata has gotten a ton of hype because of his physical gifts, but he still needs some more consistency on the field. At times, he thinks his raw strength is enough to dominate, and that will not work at the next level. He injured his knee in 2003, and even though he appears to be back at full strength, it will be something that is looked into.http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/prospects/haloti_ngata.html

Off the field:

There isn't a whole lot to not like about Bunkley. He erased the doubt around his lack of bulk after checking in at 300lbs at the Senior Bowl. He has had some durability issues, suffering a severe ankle and knee injuries during his career. Off the football field is where Bunkley's biggest problems lay. He was on the verge of being academically ineligible this season, and doesn't always put in the necessary work to get himself ready to play.http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/prospects/brodrick_bunkley.html