Chapel Hill Terrorism, Did We Miss This?

[anEinherjer]

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/14015547.htm

Some muslim slams into a bunch of people with a Jeep, apparently makes claims about "terrorism", and I don't see one thread around here ripping the administration yet another a-hole? What's going on?

[rob on the job]

That's that solid ACC education coming to the fore.

You know what they say: It's hopeless to fight an Iranian with a UNC degree.

[nehemiah]

"terrorism"? :dunno:

where you getting terrorism from?

[Soviet_Canuckastani]

It's just about as easy to stop these fringe lunatics before the act, as it is to stop Skeeter from strolling into his workplace and shooting the place up, same sh*t, whether his motive was religion, or pissed off at the school, at the end of the day, motive was a disgruntled *****ing moron, just like plenty other folks who aren't muslim, end of story.

[ckg68]

It may have been terrorism...against Duke fans...:)

[nehemiah]

It may have been terrorism...against Duke fans...:)which is justified.

it would have been better if he could have run over himself in the process, though... b/c UNC sucks too.

[anEinherjer]

"terrorism"? :dunno:

where you getting terrorism from?

If you call suicide bombings against innocent civilians a terrorist attack, how is this any different?

If it's NOT terrorism, then what individual acts qualify? Are explosives required? Does someone have to die?

Given this event, I'll have to qualify my statement "there are no terrorists in the US" and change it to "There are no international terrorist organizations active in the US".

[Lucidvizion]

Replace SUV with carbomb and leave the result the same(9 injured), this would be dominating the airwaves.

Not terrorism? Attempting to kill random people for a cause, his being retribution for America's mistreatment of Muslims.... wtf does that make him, an activist?

[nehemiah]

Replace SUV with carbomb and leave the result the same(9 injured), this would be dominating the airwaves.

Not terrorism? Attempting to kill random people for a cause, his being retribution for America's mistreatment of Muslims.... wtf does that make him, an activist?:hmm: attempting to kill random people for a cause - that's the definition of terrorist?

does it have to be a political cause? does it have to be in service on a religious ideology?

sure, he's a criminal (and an idiot)... but he's no terrorist. to call him one diminishes the term and is disrespectful to people killed by terrorists.

[Lucidvizion]

terrorism
n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

If the shoe fits...

[rob on the job]

Replace SUV with carbomb and leave the result the same(9 injured), this would be dominating the airwaves.

Not terrorism? Attempting to kill random people for a cause, his being retribution for America's mistreatment of Muslims.... wtf does that make him, an activist?

Game, set, match, LV.

[anEinherjer]

:hmm: attempting to kill random people for a cause - that's the definition of terrorist?

does it have to be a political cause? does it have to be in service on a religious ideology?

sure, he's a criminal (and an idiot)... but he's no terrorist. to call him one diminishes the term and is disrespectful to people killed by terrorists.

Come on man, if this guy's not a terrorist, who is? What's your definition? You're the one trying to say he isn't (for some reason), the burden's on you to demonstrate why that is.

[nehemiah]

you see "arab ran over white people" and say terrorist.

i see "arab ran over white people" and say bat-shit crazy.

did you read the article, btw?

Taheri-azar, a native of Iran, "allegedly made statements that he acted to avenge the American treatment of Muslims. The ongoing investigation will work to confirm this," said Special Agent Richard Kolko, an FBI spokesman in Washington, The Associated Press reported.

Kolko later told the Observer he didn't specify Taheri-azar's statements to the AP and would only confirm that the FBI is investigating.

there's still some question as to whether or not the guy said that. he may be a terrorist - but (a) he didn't kill anyone and (b) his reasons for hitting the people are still questionable.

[mighty peace warrior]

allegedly...biggest copout ever for people wanting to defend someone. He probalby said it in a taped police interview.

hell you could tell ten of your freinds something and when that appeared in the paper it would be "allegedly". all allegedly means is the reporter didn't hear it with his own ears.

of course he didnt tell reporters exactly what the guy said in any official copacity the thing is under investigation and stuff like that is not releasable until after a trial, or the case is closed.

[nehemiah]

allegedly...biggest copout ever for people wanting to defend someone. He probalby said it in a taped police interview.

hell you could tell ten of your freinds something and when that appeared in the paper it would be "allegedly". all allegedly means is the reporter didn't hear it with his own ears.

of course he didnt tell reporters exactly what the guy said in any official copacity the thing is under investigation and stuff like that is not releasable until after a trial, or the case is closed.i'm sure that Special Agent Richard Kolko from the FBI is looking to defend him.

[mighty peace warrior]

i'm sure that Special Agent Richard Kolko from the FBI is looking to defend him.
the special agent hasnt said anything that defended him, and i am not sure i said he was a terrorist

feel free to show me where i commented either way.

you are getting very shiva like, at avoiding the questions posed to you

[nehemiah]

Come on man, if this guy's not a terrorist, who is? What's your definition? You're the one trying to say he isn't (for some reason), the burden's on you to demonstrate why that is.actually, the burden is on the state to prove it. innocent until proven guilty. at least it used to be, but that's a discussion for another thread.

the only thing you guys are using as proof is made-up. the same person who allegedly heard that he admitted to being a terrorist denies ever saying that. and yet you disbelieve him? why?

what other proof you got?

[mighty peace warrior]

actually, the burden is on the state to prove it. innocent until proven guilty. at least it used to be, but that's a discussion for another thread.

the only thing you guys are using as proof is made-up. the same person who allegedly heard that he admitted to being a terrorist denies ever saying that. and yet you disbelieve him? why?

what other proof you got?
i already told you why he denied saying it...notice he didnt deny hearing it.

as far as innocent until proven guilty that is for the court not public opinion and unless anEin is the judge or jury in this case .....

[nehemiah]

i already told you why he denied saying it...notice he didnt deny hearing it.

as far as innocent until proven guilty that is for the court not public opinion and unless anEin is the judge or jury in this case .....if the FBI guy denied it - he denied it. you can't use what he said earlier as proof of something when he denies he ever said it. the AP lied.

anEin is entitled to his opinion. but he's wrong. he may turn out to be correct, but i doubt it. the guy's an angry nutjob who happens to be iranian.

[mighty peace warrior]

if the FBI guy denied it - he denied it. you can't use what he said earlier as proof of something when he denies he ever said it. the AP lied.

anEin is entitled to his opinion. but he's wrong. he may turn out to be correct, but i doubt it. the guy's an angry nutjob.
he denied saying it, he has to. did he deny hearing it? no

and i doubt a reporter would lie or twist someones words out of context, i mean everything in PR&S is based on what you guys read or see on the news...you all wouldnt be so foolish to base your opinions on people you don't think are honest whould you?

[nehemiah]

and i doubt a reporter would lie or twist someones words out of context, i mean everything in PR&S is based on what you guys read or see on the news...you all wouldnt be so foolish to base your opinions on people you don't think are honest whould you?never.

[anEinherjer]

if the FBI guy denied it - he denied it. you can't use what he said earlier as proof of something when he denies he ever said it. the AP lied.

anEin is entitled to his opinion. but he's wrong. he may turn out to be correct, but i doubt it. the guy's an angry nutjob who happens to be iranian.

Well, I guess according to Nehe there's no such thing as a terrorist.

I mean, that's what you're saying, isn't it? You can't define for me what a terrorist is because you don't believe in the term. Pretty obvious.

Come on man, QUIT DANCING. Assume for a minute that the guy might actually have admitted what is being reported. How is he NOT a terrorist?

[nehemiah]

Well, I guess according to Nehe there's no such thing as a terrorist.

I mean, that's what you're saying, isn't it? You can't define for me what a terrorist is because you don't believe in the term. Pretty obvious.

Come on man, QUIT DANCING. Assume for a minute that the guy might actually have admitted what is being reported. How is he NOT a terrorist?i wouldn't consider him a terrorist. first off, he didn't kill anyone.

yeah, i guess i don't believe in the term. "terrorist" is a bull **** term. it has never been defined to my satisfaction. is there a difference b/t this guy and the US backed death squads who threw a nun out a helicopter?

he's an angry bat-shit crazy iranian. he's a criminal. but he's not a terrorist.

[shiva2999]

My God this is a stupid thread.

[anEinherjer]

Well alright, at least we got somewhere with this thread. Someone bookmark this - Nehe doesn't believe in the term "terrorist".

I would have thought the left would have loved this one: A terrorist attack on US soil - so Bush would have to :stfu: with the nonsense "no attacks since 9/11" canard, but I guess it's more important for some to keep running with their relativism than anything else. Who knew?

[г]

The crazy Persian guy who shot that dude's daughter in Crash must have been a 'terrorist,' then ?

[nehemiah]

Well alright, at least we got somewhere with this thread. Someone bookmark this - Nehe doesn't believe in the term "terrorist".

I would have thought the left would have loved this one: A terrorist attack on US soil - so Bush would have to stfu with the nonsense "no attacks since 9/11" canard, but I guess it's more important for some to keep running with their relativism than anything else. Who knew?someone bookmark this thread under "anEin has decided that every iranian with an SUV is a potential terrorist"... cross file under "SUV maniac equals suicide bomber" (and all soccer-moms scream as they are dragged away to gitmo)

whatever you do, keep this thread as far away from reality as possible. some people just can't handle that type of thing.

[г]

A 'terrorist' running over Americans with an SUV...that's like getting ****ed up the ass with your own dick.

The irony is not lost...

[Stealth01]

If this guy is a terrorist, then every Irishman who gets in a fight with a Brit must be, too.

He is an angry, ****ed up college kid who hurt a bunch of other angry, ****ed up college kids.