The Preeminent Power On This Planet

[35Pete]

The preeminent power on this planet is the United States Of America. We are truly the greatest nation on earth. Who would argue? I'll tell you. Non-Americans (read Canadians and Europeans). Who liberated this planet from tryanny? Who is the driving economic force in this world? Who sets the standard for liberty? Who breaks the technology envelope every single year? Please. I'd love to hear your views on this.

[TRIPLE P]

Do your balls feel nice and big right now?

Why in gods name would you want to be the "preminant power on the planet".... everyones gunning for you.... thats why we get blown up.....

Plus we owe money to every other nation in the world.....

Enjoy it pete, the country is gonna come crashing to a halt because of this type of superior talk bullshit.....

[sukie]

Pete... I'll order one for ya buddy!!!
http://www.kucharik.com/USA%20LS.JPG

:army2:

[35Pete]

You know that I am right. You know it. And we are super rich so we can afford it. Stop denying our place in history. And yes.. My balls just grew 4 sizes. They are now the size of melons. :D

[sukie]

Besisdes Pete... What's gonna happen if he USA doesn't pay back the loaned debt?
Ask France! Nothing.

So we have a shitty credit score for seven years... Big Deal

[rob on the job]

.. And yes.. My balls just grew 4 sizes. They are now the size of melons. :D

Suddenly, my hunger pains have ceased.

[35Pete]

The United States of America spends more on the military than the next 11 nations combined, China and Russia included. Who is able to take us on? Really?

[35Pete]

How are we able to do this? Easy. We don't waste money on social programs that people don't deserve anyways. (Hey, if you can't pull your weight then screw you) And we are SUPER RICH. So we can afford the military. No one even comes close to our wealth. Not even Japan.

[sukie]

To much social spending IMO.

[35Pete]

If we were truly a compassionate nation we would cut social spending by 85% and teach the freeloaders how to fend for themselves, via tough love.

[TRIPLE P]

If we were truly a compassionate nation we would cut social spending by 85% and teach the freeloaders how to fend for themselves, via tough love.


The only freeloaders we help are the foreign nations that we "free"

[sukie]

The only freeloaders we help are the foreign nations that we "free"
Like France.

[35Pete]

The only freeloaders we help are the foreign nations that we "free"
Ohh really? You don't think that we have freeloaders in our country? I say cut them off and when they resort to crime jail them. Still cheaper to jail 10% of the population than to provide all the services that they have.

[35Pete]

The trick is to teach them self suffiency via hunger. If they resort to crime then toss them in jail. Between work and school I pulled 100 hour weeks for 4 years. Don't tell me it can't be done. And I graduated with a 3.93 gpa.

[sukie]

Weed out the weak.

[35Pete]

Social darwinism is what we are talking about baby! :rockon:

[nehemiah]

if we are indeed the greatest country in the world - it is only in spite of florida. so don't brag too much, floridians. you're dead weight.

[35Pete]

if we are indeed the greatest country in the world - it is only in spite of florida. so don't brag too much, floridians. you're dead weight.
We are progressive thinkers here down in Florida. You would do well to listen to us.

[sukie]

It's been proven that the dead weight lives near northern urban blight and is the main cause of the decay.

[35Pete]

It's been proven that the dead weight lives near northern urban blight and is the main cause of the decay.
And it has been proven with science!!

Sukie, Am I back or what?

[sukie]

yup...

[uppy]

God Bless this Great Country !

[35Pete]

God Bless this Great Country !
Amen!!!

THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH!!!

[Mouldsie]

wtf kind of thread is this?

[35Pete]

A very cool thread Mouldsie. And a very patriotic one at that.

[35Pete]

Just about when Sukie is about to declare me a pansy ass liberal I start a thread like this. LOL.

[uppy]

Amen!!!

THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH!!!

The Greatest Nation ever.... Todays Rome

[shiva2999]

Tee hee hee.

This thread is yet more proof that Pete has moved waaaaay to the left,

He's almost a social democrat now.

He's sucking sukie and upstart in big time.

[sukie]

Shiva, you can only dream such things. As you were, my Canadian adversary.

[uppy]

Shiva, you can only dream such things. As you were, my Canadian adversary.

Shiva,dreams that one day he too can say...I am American,now kiss my
ring.But the poor soul is from Canada.

God Bless the Good Old U.S.A. !!

[shiva2999]

"Living well is the best revenge."
~George Herbert
English clergyman & metaphysical poet (1593 - 1633)

[ckg68]

This thread is totally reeking of lameness. Either that,or all the chest-thumping is going to leave a lot of your chests red and raw when it's all said and done.

[uppy]

"Living well is the best revenge."
~George Herbert
English clergyman & metaphysical poet (1593 - 1633)

Did George Herbert also say.."Love of Country is ones' greatest love"?

[shiva2999]

This thread is totally reeking of lameness. Either that,or all the chest-thumping is going to leave a lot of your chests red and raw when it's all said and done.

It's satire.

Pete the born again lefty is poking fun at the right.

[shiva2999]

Did George Herbert also say.."Love of Country is ones' greatest love"?

I don't know. Did he?

[TRIPLE P]

The Greatest Nation ever.... Todays Rome

Weird you'ed say that:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_rome


Mainstream theories
Influential theories and theorists include:

* Edward Gibbon placed the blame on a loss of civic virtue among the Roman citizens. They gradually outsourced their duties to defend the Empire to barbarian mercenaries who eventually turned on them. Gibbon considered that Christianity had contributed to this, making the populace less interested in the worldly here-and-now and more willing to wait for the rewards of heaven.

* Henri Pirenne published the "Pirenne Thesis" in the 1920s which remains influential to this day. It holds that the Empire continued, in some form, up until the time of the Arab conquests in the 7th century, which disrupted Mediterranean trade routes, leading to a decline in the European economy.

* Historians of Late Antiquity, a field pioneered by Peter Brown, have turned away from the idea that the Roman Empire "fell". They see a "transformation" occurring over centuries, with the roots of Medieval culture contained in Roman culture and focus on the continuities between the classical and Medieval worlds. Thus, it was a gradual process with no clear break.


* Historians such as Arnold J. Toynbee and James Burke argue that the Roman Empire itself was a rotten system from its inception, and that the entire Imperial era was one of steady decay of its institutions. The Romans had no budgetary system. The Empire relied on booty from conquered territories (this source of revenue ending, of course, with the end of Roman territorial expansion) or on a pattern of tax collection that drove small-scale farmers into destitution (and onto a dole that required even more exactions upon those who could not escape taxation), or into dependency upon a landed élite exempt from taxation. Meanwhile the costs of military defense and the pomp of Emperors continued. Financial needs continued to increase, but the means of meeting them steadily eroded.

* The historian Vegetius theorised and has recently been supported by the historian Arthur Ferrill that the Roman Empire declined and as a result fell, due to a combination of increasing contact with barbarians and the subsequent 'barbarization', as well as a surge in decadence and the following lethargy. Hence, resulting in complacency and ill-discipline among the legions, making it primarily a military issue.


* Ludwig von Mises argued that the inflation and the price controls promoted by the later emperors destroyed the economic system of the ancient world, this leading into hyperinflation, deterioration of the imperial economical basis and transfer to barter economy instead of a more advanced monetary economy. The theory assumes the hyperinflation combined with price controls undermined the economic system of the empire, and it simply went into bankruptcy, unable to pay its legions. This is supported by the fact that the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine empire) survived for over a millennium after the fall of the Western empire because of its smaller economic decline.


* Radovan Richta holds that technology drives history. Thus, the invention of the horseshoe in Germany in the 200s AD would alter the military equation of pax romana, or a borrowing of the compass from its inventors in China in the 300s AD would also alter that equation.

[uppy]

Not that I know...just asking.

God Bless the USA !

[uppy]

Thanks for that Post WXP

[TRIPLE P]

Thanks for that Post WXP

NP....kinda creepy right?

[35Pete]

It's satire.

Pete the born again lefty is poking fun at the right.
Actually Shiva I started this thread to get the blood roiling in here. This place has been dead lately!!!

[anEinherjer]

It's only dead because things are quiet now. Just wait, there'll be another disaster or another colossal ****-up that we can bitch about soon enough. :D The only question is who will do the ****ing up so we can decide which side we're on.

[Canisius85]

The United States of America spends more on the military than the next 11 nations combined, China and Russia included. Who is able to take us on? Really?

Then why are we losing the war?

Why did we lose the last one?

Oh yea...it's the media's fault.


Enjoy yourself Pete, as we are in the beginning of the decline of the American empire.

[35Pete]

Then why are we losing the war?

Why did we lose the last one?

Oh yea...it's the media's fault.


Enjoy yourself Pete, as we are in the beginning of the decline of the American empire.
No. Wrong on both counts.

Name one battle that we lost in Viet Nam. Name one.

[Canisius85]

Ripcord base.

[35Pete]

Ooopsss. Forgot about that one. OK, name another! LOL

[rob on the job]

... Enjoy yourself Pete, as we are in the beginning of the decline of the American empire.

You may be correct, historian, but I was around in the late 1960s when they said the same thing about the "American empire."

As Twain said, reports of America's death were exaggerated.

[anEinherjer]

Hey, Rome didn't fall in a day either... :D

[Canisius85]

You may be correct, historian, but I was around in the late 1960s when they said the same thing about the "American empire."

As Twain said, reports of America's death were exaggerated.

Trust me...I hope and pray I'm wrong.
:whitecar:

[sukie]

Rome also didn't have a Haliburton.