My Mock Draft version 2.0 (Updated 3/19/06)

[admarc]

Go to post #22 for the latest updated Mock:

Mock 2.0 (http://www.buffalorange.com/showpost.php?p=1197423&postcount=22)

Here's my 2 1/3 + full Bills Mock Draft:

# Team Player POS School

First Round

1 Houston Reggie Bush RB USC

2 New Orleans Matt Leinart QB USC

3 Tennessee D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT Virginia

4 New York Jets Mario Williams DE North Carolina State

5 Green Bay AJ Hawk LB Ohio State

6 San Francisco Michael Huff DB Texas

7 Oakland Vince Young QB Texas

8 Buffalo Vernon Davis TE Maryland

9 Detroit Jay Cutler QB Vanderbilt

10 Cleveland (from Arizona) Haloti Ngata DT Oregon

11 St. Louis Brodrick Bunkley DT Florida State

12 Arizona (from Cleveland) LenDale White RB USC

13 Baltimore DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis

14 Philadelphia Tamba Hali DE Penn State

15 Atlanta Jimmy Williams DB Viginia Tech

16 Miami Winston Justice OT USC

17 Minnesota Santonio Holmes WR Ohio State

18 Dallas Ernie Sims LB Florida State

19 San Diego Tye Hill CB Clemson

20 Kansas City Max Jean-Gilles OG Georgia

21 New England Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota

22 Denver (from Washington) Ashton Youboty CB Ohio State

23 Tampa Bay Chad Greenway LB Iowa

24 Cincinnati Jason Allen DB Tennessee

25 New York Giants DeMeco Ryans LB Alabama

26 Chicago Leonard Pope TE Georgia

27 Carolina Chad Jackson WR Florida

28 Jacksonville Marcedes Lewis TE UCLA

29 Denver Mathias Kiwanuka DE Boston College

30 Indianapolis Antonio Cromartie CB Florida State

31 Seattle Johnathan Joseph CB South Carolina

32 Pittsburgh Sinorice Moss WR Miami

Round Two

33 Houston Eric Winston OT Miami

34 New Orleans Nick Mangold C Ohio State

35 New York Jets Jonathan Scott OT Texas

36 Green Bay Gabe Watson DT Michigan

37 Oakland Rod Wright DT Texas

38 San Francisco Bobby Carpenter LB Ohio State

39 Tennessee Joseph Addai RB 5-11 210 LSU

40 Detroit Manny Lawson DE N.C. State

41 Arizona Marcus McNeil, OT Auburn

42 Buffalo Tatui "Duece" Lutui, OG USC

43 Cleveland Daryn Colledge OT Boise State

44 Baltimore Johnathan Joseph CB South Carolina

45 Philadelphia Thomas Howard LB UTEP

46 St. Louis Kelly Jennings CB Miami

47 Atlanta Kamerion Wimbley DE Florida State

48 Minnesota Darnell Bing SS USC

49 Dallas Ryan O'Callaghan OT California

50 San Diego Davin Joseph OG Oklahoma

51 Miami D'Qwell Jackson LB Maryland

52 New England Will Blackmon CB 6-0 195 Boston College

53 Washington Dominique Byrd TE Southern California

54 Kansas City Martin Nance WR Miami (Ohio)

55 Cincinnati Donte Whitner SS Ohio State

56 New York Giants Richard Marshall CB Fresno State

57 Chicago Charles Spencer OG Pittsburgh

58 Carolina Joe Toledo OT Washington

59 Tampa Bay Guy Whimper OT East Carolina

60 Jacksonville Jerious Norwood RB Mississiippi State

61 Denver Dusty Dvoracek DT Oklahoma

62 Indianapolis Mark Setterstrom OG Minnesota

63 Seattle Daryl Tapp DE Virginia Tech

64 Pittsburgh Ko Simpson FS South Carolina

Third Round

65 Houston Joel Klopfenstein TE Colorado

66 Houston (from New Orleans) Parys Haralson LB Tennessee

67 Green Bay Greg Eslinger C Minnesota

68 San Francisco Ray Edwards* DE Purdue

69 Oakland Claude Wroten DT LSU

70 Buffalo (from Tennessee) John McCargo* DT N.C. State

71 New York Jets Brodie Croyle QB Alabama

72 Arizona Anthony Fasano TE Notre Dame

73 Buffalo Andy Whitworth OT LSU

Fourth Round

104 Mark Anderson DE Alabama

Fifth Round

138 Buffalo Marques Colston WR 6-5 225 Hofstra

Sixth Round

169 Buffalo Will Montgomery C 6-3 305 Virginia Tech

Seventh Round

200 Buffalo Scott Ware SS USC

[GvilleBill]

Not bad at all dude. I confess I don't know much about McCargo or Ware. I just don't know if I could live w/ myself if we passed over another stud defender (Bunk), in favor of an alleged offensive phenom (Davis) a la Roy Williams/ Mike Williams. Especially in light of the draft pick we could gain. Granted, Davis is going to be a phenomenal pro. Yet I believe the impact of Bunk on the DT position will be just as great.

[Merk]

You've got D.Tapp twice


Seattle third and Buffalo's 5th


Overall it looks good


Colston would be a steal in the 5th as would Whitworth in the 3rd


I like Ware in the 7th rounder he would be an instant contributer on ST's

[GvilleBill]

Maybe Marv swings some blockbuster like back in the days, and we get to have our cake and eat it too. That would be sweet to have both Davis and Bunk, but the price would be too high:gloomy:

[Jayhawk]

nice one dude

[TheAnswer74]

IMO, I think the Bills should give up their 2 3rd's and get back into the 2nd round and draft Charles Spencer or Devin Joseph if possible.

You get Duece Lutui and Charles Spencer, our OL would be solid. Plug Spencer in at LG and Lutui in at RG.

[admarc]

You've got D.Tapp twice


Seattle third and Buffalo's 5th


Overall it looks good


Colston would be a steal in the 5th as would Whitworth in the 3rd


I like Ware in the 7th rounder he would be an instant contributer on ST's

Thanks for catching that. I'll keep him with Seattle, it was a bit of a stretch to think he would drop to the 4th anyway, but I was thinking because he is undersized he might slip. I'll go with Mark Anderson DE Alabama instead, who is also climbing up draft boards after his solid combine.

BTW, You put Colston on my radar and after seeing him at the combine I'd love to get him.

[admarc]

Not bad at all dude. I confess I don't know much about McCargo or Ware. I just don't know if I could live w/ myself if we passed over another stud defender (Bunk), in favor of an alleged offensive phenom (Davis) a la Roy Williams/ Mike Williams. Especially in light of the draft pick we could gain. Granted, Davis is going to be a phenomenal pro. Yet I believe the impact of Bunk on the DT position will be just as great.

Here's a link to Mike Mayok's D-Lineman breakdown with some clips and analysis about Mccargo. He has him as the #5 DT dt video (http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/nflfilms/demand/s2005/nfln-ta/off/path_to_the_draft_def_tackles_300k.rm)

[D-Rocafella]

The one thing that stuck out to me was the Cowboys drafting Sims. Parcells likes the big LB's because his 3-4 defense needs them to be physical like LT was and Joey Porter is. Sims is a guy who will be drafted by a standerd 4-3 team. His best fit will be a cover 2 scheme where his speed and athleticism will be best utilized.

[admarc]

The one thing that stuck out to me was the Cowboys drafting Sims. Parcells likes the big LB's because his 3-4 defense needs them to be physical like LT was and Joey Porter is. Sims is a guy who will be drafted by a standerd 4-3 team. His best fit will be a cover 2 scheme where his speed and athleticism will be best utilized.

IDK, the 3-4 usually puts a premium on speed. The job of the front three is essentially to tie up blockers so the LBs can fly to the ball and get after the QB. LT was tough, but his greatest attribute was his quickness. Sims opposite Ware would give Parcells the ability to get after the QB from both sides and better disguise the blitz.

[gunnar_zero]

IDK, the 3-4 usually puts a premium on speed. The job of the front three is essentially to tie up blockers so the LBs can fly to the ball and get after the QB. LT was tough, but his greatest attribute was his quickness. Sims opposite Ware would give Parcells the ability to get after the QB from both sides and better disguise the blitz.


In the middle yes, But usually you will have 1 outside linebacker that is a hybrid DE.

That is why guys like Kenard Lang, Jason Babin and Andre Carter play OLB.

[admarc]

In the middle yes, But usually you will have 1 outside linebacker that is a hybrid DE.

That is why guys like Kenard Lang, Jason Babin and Andre Carter play OLB.

Depends, if you have a pass rushing DE, the linebacker behind him usually needs to be a little more stout at the point (Like Daryl Talley behind Bruce Smith). Even so, Ware is the converted / hybrid DE/LB and he plays strong side. A fast, pass rushing weak outside linebacker like Sims is a good thing to have in a 3-4.

[D-Rocafella]

You do need power to be a LB in the 3-4 and Sims does not have enough of it. With only 3 down linemen there are greater chances that one or more o-linemen can get to the second level.

Teams that play the 3-4 have big linebackers. Guys like Porter, Farrior, Ware, McGinest, Merriman are all beasts. A guy like Sims who goes about 225-230 is not built for the point of attack football he would encounter in that type of system. If the Cowboys get a LB in the 1st it would be a guy like Greenway, or Lawson.

[TigerJ]

John McCargo
Height: 6-1 1/2 | Weight: 302 | 40-Time: 5.11

Official Bio

Strengths:
Very disruptive in the middle...An excellent penetrator...Has outstanding strength...Consistent performer who had at least one tackle for a loss in every game he played as a junior...Uses his hands and arms well...Active and does a good job of shedding blockers...Does a great job of splitting the double team...Very productive with a knack for making plays in the opponents backfield.

Weaknesses:
The big question is whether his production was due to his talent or merely playing on the same line as Mario Williams and Manny Lawson...Missed five games with a broken foot in 2005...Never put up huge sack numbers...Can do a better job versus the run...Does not have great speed...Will be too aggressive and take himself out of plays at times...Was he Ryan Sims to Williams' Julius Peppers?

Notes:
An academic All-ACC performer...Was overshadowed by all the talent he had around him along the defensive line but came through with three great seasons for the Wolfpack...There are questions but you sure can't ignore the production.

That's from Scott Wright:

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/dt/johnmccargo.html

Wright's concern is my concern, that McCargo is the beneficiary of having monster DE Mario Williams on one side, and blazing fast Manny Lawson on the other. Who are you going to double team? Not John McCargo, that's for sure. At least some draft sites rate him a mid-rounder, and I think 3rd is high for him.

[FknGvna]

That draft is the Bomb. We'd get A's across the board. Anderson is a big time sleeper. Hope Whitworth drops that far.

[voicekiller]

getting a tight end at 8 would not help the bills main needs on DL and OL

[admarc]

getting a tight end at 8 would not help the bills main needs on DL and OL

True, but getting solid line prospects like Duece Lutui, John McCargo, Andy Whitworth, Will Montgomery and Mark Anderson in rounds 2-7 would.

Plus you now have added a dynamic playmaker on a team that desperately needs one. He would make the job of the QB and the o-line much easier to pass protect by providing an outlet receiver who could turn a dump off into a large gain and cause the strong side backer to stay in coverage rather than risk blitzing. He could also help in run blocking by extending the offensive line and providing new lanes for McGahee to run through. He is not only a big play threat that will cause major mismatches, but he is also an effective blocker. The guy is the whole package and would instantly make the Bills offense more potent. The Bills have 6 other picks and free agency to address the lines.

[JayHall93]

True, but getting solid line prospects like Duece Lutui, John McCargo, Andy Whitworth, Will Montgomery and Mark Anderson in rounds 2-7 would.

Plus you now have added a dynamic playmaker on a team that desperately needs one. He would make the job of the QB and the o-line much easier to pass protect by providing an outlet receiver who could turn a dump off into a large gain and cause the strong side backer to stay in coverage rather than risk blitzing. He could also help in run blocking by extending the offensive line and providing new lanes for McGahee to run through. He is not only a big play threat that will cause major mismatches, but he is also an effective blocker. The guy is the whole package and would instantly make the Bills offense more potent. The Bills have 6 other picks and free agency to address the lines.

That's what everyone said last year trying to justify sco and everett

[admarc]

That's what everyone said last year trying to justify sco and everett

They didn't have a 1st rounder and didn't use a pick on the o-line until round 4 last year. I want the Bills to address the line on the first day, but it doesn't necessarily have to be with that first pick. They have already addressed one of the d-line openings through free agency. They also signed a TE, so this mock may change at the top.

[JayHall93]

im with ya man. we need to finally solidify our o line.

[admarc]

im with ya man. we need to finally solidify our o line.

If they end up using 3 out of their first 4 picks on offensive lineman, I ain't complaining. I think the way the board stacks they will be able to add some quality lineman with those picks.

[admarc]

REVISED MOCK

# Team Player POS School

First Round

1 Houston Reggie Bush RB USC

2 New Orleans Mario Williams DE North Carolina State

3 Tennessee Matt Leinart QB USC

4 New York Jets D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT Virginia

5 Green Bay AJ Hawk LB Ohio State

6 San Francisco Michael Huff DB Texas

7 Oakland Vince Young QB Texas

8 Buffalo Haloti Ngata DT Oregon

9 Detroit Vernon Davis TE Maryland

10 Arizona Jay Cutler QB Vanderbilt

11 St. Louis Chad Greenway LB Iowa

12 Cleveland Brodrick Bunkley DT Florida State

13 Baltimore Jimmy Williams DB Viginia Tech

14 Philadelphia DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis

15 Atlanta Tamba Hali DE Penn State

16 Miami Chad Jackson WR Florida

17 Minnesota LenDale White RB USC

18 Dallas Nick Mangold C Ohio State

19 San Diego Santonio Holmes WR Ohio State

20 Kansas City Winston Justice OT USC

21 New England Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota

22 Denver (from Washington) Tye Hill CB Clemson

23 Tampa Bay Ernie Sims LB Florida State

24 Cincinnati Marcedes Lewis TE UCLA

25 New York Giants DeMeco Ryans LB Alabama

26 Chicago Leonard Pope TE Georgia

27 Carolina Max Jean-Gilles OG Georgia

28 Jacksonville Manny Lawson LB-DE N.C. State

29 Denver Jason Allen DB Tennessee

30 Indianapolis Antonio Cromartie CB Florida State

31 NY Jets (from Seattle) Mathias Kiwanuka DE Boston College


32 Pittsburgh Sinorice Moss WR Miami

Round Two

33 Houston Eric Winston OT Miami

34 New Orleans Ashton Youboty CB Ohio State

35 New York Jets Joseph Addai RB 5-11 210 LSU

36 Green Bay Jonathan Scott OT Texas

37 Oakland Gabe Watson DT Michigan

38 San Francisco Bobby Carpenter LB Ohio State

39 Tennessee D'Qwell Jackson LB Maryland

40 Detroit Thomas Howard LB UTEP

41 Arizona Ko Simpson FS South Carolina

42 Buffalo Tatui "Duece" Lutui, OG USC

43 Cleveland Marcus McNeil, OT Auburn

44 Baltimore Daryn Colledge OT Boise State

45 Philadelphia Johnathan Joseph CB South Carolina

46 St. Louis Kelly Jennings CB Miami

47 Atlanta Charles Spencer OG Pittsburgh

48 Minnesota Darnell Bing SS USC

49 Dallas Kamerion Wimbley LB Florida State

50 San Diego Davin Joseph OG Oklahoma

51 Minnesota (from Miami) Ryan O'Callaghan OT California

52 New England Donte Whitner SS Ohio State

53 Washington Dominique Byrd TE Southern California

54 Kansas City Demetrius Williams WR Oregon

55 Cincinnati Rod Wright DT Texas

56 New York Giants Richard Marshall CB Fresno State

57 Chicago Joe Toledo OT Washington

58 Carolina Jerious Norwood RB Mississiippi State

59 Tampa Bay Guy Whimper OT East Carolina

60 Jacksonville Joel Klopfenstein TE Colorado

61 Denver Dusty Dvoracek DT Oklahoma

62 Indianapolis Mark Setterstrom OG Minnesota

63 Seattle Bernard Pollard SS

64 Pittsburgh Greg Eslinger C Minnesota

Third Round

65 Houston Pat Watkins FS

66 Houston (from New Orleans) Parys Haralson LB Tennessee

67 Green Bay Rob Sims Ohio State OG

68 San Francisco Ray Edwards* DE Purdue

69 Oakland Claude Wroten DT LSU

70 Buffalo (from Tennessee) Andy Whitworth OT LSU

71 New York Jets Brodie Croyle QB Alabama

72 Arizona Anthony Fasano TE Notre Dame

73 Buffalo Anthony Smith FS Syracuse

Fourth Round

104 Mark Anderson DE Alabama

Fifth Round

138 Buffalo Marques Colston WR Hofstra

Sixth Round

169 Buffalo Will Montgomery C 6-3 305 Virginia Tech

Seventh Round

200 Buffalo Matt Lentz G Michigan

[kdhammond]

Here's a link to Mike Mayok's D-Lineman breakdown with some clips and analysis about Mccargo. He has him as the #5 DT dt video (http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/nflfilms/demand/s2005/nfln-ta/off/path_to_the_draft_def_tackles_300k.rm)


Who is Mike Mayock? He might be great, I don't know. I've been following the draft fanatically for 20+ years and the top draft guides (IMHO) are:

GM Jr - author was actually a scout for the Browns. In my opinion, by far the best. He pegged Tom Brady as an early round pick. He likewise named Marc Bulger as the best QB in his class. He is quite contrarian and always has some guys rated highly that NOBODY else does. He is more often right than wrong on these guys.

Draft Insider's Digest (Sporting News)- authors of the Sporting News' War Room, have a pretty extensive staff of full-time draft scouts. Attend (in person) the Senior Bowl, Hula Bowl and Combine.

Pro Football Weekly - Loooong time draft guide, but a step down after the awesome Joel Buschbaum died very early, but their new guy is coming along now after a couple years.

I used to follow Mel Kiper, but since he was hired by ESPN on a year-round basis to cover other sports, he's dropped off my list. He can't possibly devote the amount of time he used to and he has alienated too many NFL front office people to have many "ins".

[admarc]

Who is Mike Mayock? He might be great, I don't know. I've been following the draft fanatically for 20+ years and the top draft guides (IMHO) are:

GM Jr - author was actually a scout for the Browns. In my opinion, by far the best. He pegged Tom Brady as an early round pick. He likewise named Marc Bulger as the best QB in his class. He is quite contrarian and always has some guys rated highly that NOBODY else does. He is more often right than wrong on these guys.

Draft Insider's Digest (Sporting News)- authors of the Sporting News' War Room, have a pretty extensive staff of full-time draft scouts. Attend (in person) the Senior Bowl, Hula Bowl and Combine.

Pro Football Weekly - Loooong time draft guide, but a step down after the awesome Joel Buschbaum died very early, but their new guy is coming along now after a couple years.

I used to follow Mel Kiper, but since he was hired by ESPN on a year-round basis to cover other sports, he's dropped off my list. He can't possibly devote the amount of time he used to and he has alienated too many NFL front office people to have many "ins".

Mike Mayock is the NFL Networks Draft guy.

I agree Buschbaum was great. PFW's preview is not the same. ESPN did a pretty good job with their premier draft mag this year. Sporting News is always pretty solid.

I really like the great blue north draft site as well. IMHO its the best free site out there. No high tech graphics or anything, just thorough draft coverage all year round.

[TigerJ]

Mayock calls McCargo a one gap penetrator. I think that's the role Buffalo projects for Larry Tripplett. If that's the case, McCargo would not be a complement for Tripplett.

[admarc]

Mayock calls McCargo a one gap penetrator. I think that's the role Buffalo projects for Larry Tripplett. If that's the case, McCargo would not be a complement for Tripplett.

Yeah, that's why I didn't select him in the revised mock. Post #1 was pre-free agency. Scroll down to post #22 to see the revised mock with the Bills taking Ngata with the first pick, who would be a great compliment to Tripplet.

[voicekiller]

True, but getting solid line prospects like Duece Lutui, John McCargo, Andy Whitworth, Will Montgomery and Mark Anderson in rounds 2-7 would.

Plus you now have added a dynamic playmaker on a team that desperately needs one. He would make the job of the QB and the o-line much easier to pass protect by providing an outlet receiver who could turn a dump off into a large gain and cause the strong side backer to stay in coverage rather than risk blitzing. He could also help in run blocking by extending the offensive line and providing new lanes for McGahee to run through. He is not only a big play threat that will cause major mismatches, but he is also an effective blocker. The guy is the whole package and would instantly make the Bills offense more potent. The Bills have 6 other picks and free agency to address the lines.
true but we need to work on the lines o and d first and foremost

[admarc]

true but we need to work on the lines o and d first and foremost

I guess I need to make this clearer on top of the thread. That comment was for my pre-free agency mock. The new mock I have has the Bills using 6 out of their 8 picks on the o-line and d-line, including the first 3 picks.

1st Round Haloti Ngata DT
2nd Round Duece Lutui OG
3rd Round Andy Whitworth OT
3rd Round Anthony Smith FS
4th Round Mark Anderson DE
Fifth Round Marques Colston WR
Sixth Round Will Montgomery C
Seventh Round Matt Lentz G

[buffan100]

1st Round Haloti Ngata DT
2nd Round Duece Lutui OG
3rd Round Andy Whitworth OT
3rd Round Anthony Smith FS
4th Round Mark Anderson DE
Fifth Round Marques Colston WR
Sixth Round Will Montgomery C
Seventh Round Matt Lentz G

Where's the beef?

That would be a great first 3 picks. Not certain any of the 3 make it to those picks. I believe Whitworth is worth a #2 as a RT.

That would be one heck of a draft.

[admarc]

Where's the beef?

That would be a great first 3 picks. Not certain any of the 3 make it to those picks. I believe Whitworth is worth a #2 as a RT.

That would be one heck of a draft.

If Lutui doesn't make it to the Bills #2, Spencer would.

If Whitworth doesn't make it to the Bills 3rd Colledge, Ryan O'Callaghan or Trublood will be. I believe a quality RT can be found in the 3rd round. The strategy is to find a LG and a DT to start day one. Then find a RT to groom for one year and have as depth. Keep Peters on the Right one more season and Gandy on the left. They also need to get some depth at Center to push Preston and provide a little safety net in case he is not the long term answer. There should be a good developmental Center available early day 2.

The Bills should also look to draft someone to take Vincent's spot at FS in a year or so. Donte Whitner and Anthony Smith would fit the Bill in the 3rd. They would also contribute right away in nickle and dime packages and on special teams.

[jjm19672000]

Both drafts look good, Admarc, but I wouldn't be too surprised to see a LB taken at some point.

[voicekiller]

I guess I need to make this clearer on top of the thread. That comment was for my pre-free agency mock. The new mock I have has the Bills using 6 out of their 8 picks on the o-line and d-line, including the first 3 picks.

1st Round Haloti Ngata DT
2nd Round Duece Lutui OG
3rd Round Andy Whitworth OT
3rd Round Anthony Smith FS
4th Round Mark Anderson DE
Fifth Round Marques Colston WR
Sixth Round Will Montgomery C
Seventh Round Matt Lentz G
nice...id be happy with that...but if hawk is available at 8 i see the bills taking him