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sukie
December 20th, 2005, 12:11:46 PM
Nancy Pelosi: I Was Briefed on NSA Program
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi confessed late Saturday that she signed off on President Bush's decision to have a top intelligence agency conduct "unspecified activities" to gather intelligence on possible terrorists operating inside the U.S. in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.
"I was advised of President Bush's decision to provide authority to the National Security Agency to conduct unspecified activities shortly after he made it and have been provided with updates on several occasions," Pelosi admitted.
The San Francisco Democrat claimed she expressed "strong concerns" about the "unspecified activities" at the time, but offered no evidence to that effect.
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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/18/125959.shtml
nehemiah
December 20th, 2005, 2:52:39 PM
how does "being briefed" get to "OK'd"?
stop lying, nuke.
sukie
December 20th, 2005, 3:04:21 PM
She signed off. there must have been something written. That pig smells guilty by yer standards. Harry Reid signed off too.
nehemiah
December 20th, 2005, 3:12:15 PM
what does "signed off" mean?
is her signature on the executive order?
stop posting newsmax articles - they inevitably suck.
sukie
December 20th, 2005, 3:25:07 PM
Why cuz you don't like them? Only executives sign orders... she admitted she knew. Stop wishing it weren't so.
nehemiah
December 20th, 2005, 3:28:39 PM
Why cuz you don't like them? Only executives sign orders... she admitted she knew. Stop wishing it weren't so.don't be daft. she wasn't allowed to tell anyone. rockefeller had to hand write his letter because he couldn't have one of his aides type it.
you're really rrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaacccccccccchhhhhhhhhi iiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnggggg here, nukiemiah.
try again.
sukie
December 20th, 2005, 3:53:29 PM
Your wining is like nailson a calkboard... so then her silence toward your so called criminal behavior is okay then... she knew anddid nothing... So did Harry Reid (prior to his rant about Osama being dead already). The new, were briefed (as you would say) and they signed off on it. Guilt by association. (strong accenton the first 3 letters)
nehemiah
December 20th, 2005, 3:58:16 PM
Your wining is like nailson a calkboard... so then her silence toward your so called criminal behavior is okay then... she knew anddid nothing... So did Harry Reid (prior to his rant about Osama being dead already). The new, were briefed (as you would say) and they signed off on it. Guilt by association. (strong accenton the first 3 letters)considering that you are already sloshed - let's cut to the chase...
should bush be impeached for this? you spent yesterday in a full throated defense of bush's action and now you're pissed off about it.
you're so pissed off about rockefeller and pelosi and reid that you have forgotten the biggie - king george. what about king george, nukiemiah?
г
December 20th, 2005, 4:00:10 PM
Congressional committees have Republican majorities, right ?
A minority party member on a (supposedly secret) congressional comittee can be held responsible how ?
Why don't they publish the minutes of the comittee and remove all doubt about who exactly authorized what ?
Bellowing4DaBills
December 20th, 2005, 4:00:42 PM
Your wining is like nailson a calkboard... so then her silence toward your so called criminal behavior is okay then... she knew anddid nothing... So did Harry Reid (prior to his rant about Osama being dead already). The new, were briefed (as you would say) and they signed off on it. Guilt by association. (strong accenton the first 3 letters)
Guilt by association ? How about lying in your own goddamn speech and posted on the official White House website...
Secondly, there are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040420-2.html
sukie
December 20th, 2005, 4:05:25 PM
There are constitutionalprovisionsfor foregoing wiretapping during war but it is something like 15 days only. Does this also apply to non citizens that do not full under our constitutional rights?
Bellowing4DaBills
December 20th, 2005, 4:17:10 PM
There are constitutionalprovisionsfor foregoing wiretapping during war but it is something like 15 days only. Does this also apply to non citizens that do not full under our constitutional rights?
did you mean forgoing a warrant before wiretapping ?
Section 1802 of FISA gives the Attorney General the power to have warrantless intercepts for up to one year of communications used exclusively by "foreign powers" (which are defined to include terrorist organizations) and where there is no substantial likelihood that the intercept will acquire the contents of a communication to which a U.S. person is a party.
Both the intelligence committees of the Congress and the special court have to be notified of each of these warrantless intercepts.
The special court can issue warrants for interecepts that meet certain probable cause criteria and can issue a warrant permitting an intercept that already has been started, so long as the application for the warrant is made within 72 hours.
sukie
December 20th, 2005, 4:25:54 PM
No there was this legal analyst from Harvard that specifically stated 15 days only then a warrant would be mandatory. This is not a patriot act thing either.
г
December 20th, 2005, 4:28:05 PM
Even if it does involve "foreign powers," when there's a US citizen on one side of the electronic conversation that's being monitored, that's when law enforcement is treading on thin ice with no warrant.
nehemiah
December 20th, 2005, 4:31:05 PM
No there was this legal analyst from Harvard that specifically stated 15 days only then a warrant would be mandatory. This is not a patriot act thing either.never heard that one. you got a link or you just see it on the TV?
Bellowing4DaBills
December 20th, 2005, 4:33:03 PM
No there was this legal analyst from Harvard that specifically stated 15 days only then a warrant would be mandatory. This is not a patriot act thing either.
I don't know about that one Sukie.
All I know Sukie is that before King George came along, warrants were required for wiretaps on US citizens.
sukie
December 20th, 2005, 4:34:11 PM
It was a wartime provision. Again, does this also apply to non citizens? just curious.
nehemiah
December 20th, 2005, 4:35:52 PM
It was a wartime provision. Again, does this also apply to non citizens? just curious.FISA applies only to American citizens, IIRC.
they spy on embassies all the time.
sukie
December 20th, 2005, 4:53:05 PM
So terrorists need only employ citizens and consor tin that citizens home using their cell phones and computers. Does that kinda gig pay good?
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