Dunkirk NY

[Billsman]

I was born and raised there. I remember watching the Bills in Fredonia and there would only be about 100 fans there back in the 80's. It was a nice city but with the help of HUD the once nice city is all but dead.

[rob on the job]

I was born and raised there. I remember watching the Bills in Fredonia and there would only be about 100 fans there back in the 80's. It was a nice city but with the help of HUD the once nice city is all but dead.

I believe Fredonia officials are ripping down the "Home of Rick Serafin" signs posted at the village limits as we speak.

[35Pete]

I was born and raised there. I remember watching the Bills in Fredonia and there would only be about 100 fans there back in the 80's. It was a nice city but with the help of HUD the once nice city is all but dead.
That's what happens when the Feds start bringing in the undesirables.

[nehemiah]

:scratch: define "undesirables" please.

[sukie]

The homeless bused in from Philly?

[nehemiah]

i think he means all the polish fellas. kielbasa leaves a stench going in and coming out.

[35Pete]

:scratch: define "undesirables" please.
People in housing projects are in general, undesirable. White, black, chinese, catholic, jewish, whatever.

[sukie]

I doubt there are any jews in the projects.

[nehemiah]

People in housing projects are in general, undesirable. White, black, chinese, catholic, jewish, whatever.:scratch:

as a person who grew up in the projects and is currently smarter, more talented, and better looking than you - i can safely say that's :bs: .

[nehemiah]

I doubt there are any jews in the projects.stupid post.

bring something to the table, please. i know you're polish, but sheesh... try to hide that fact every once in a while.

:D

[sukie]

They own the projects.

[35Pete]

:scratch:

as a person who grew up in the projects and is currently smarter, more talented, and better looking than you - i can safely say that's :bs: .
Then perhaps you are undesirable. Do you bathe? Use drugs? Let your kids run roughshod over the neighborhood?

Don't pull the "I know better than you because I am a social worker" crap either. I worked in an inner city ER for many years and have seen the gamut of the social structure as well as their behaviors.

[Billsman]

Train Wreck Capital of the World

http://www.s363.com/images/dkny/wreck1s.jpg (http://www.s363.com/dkny/wreck.html) It has been said that Dunkirk is the train wreck capital of the world. This may or may not be true, but one thing is for sure, there have been a lot of wrecks.

http://www.s363.com/dkny/wreck.html

[sukie]

What "inner city"? just wondering Pete.

[nehemiah]

They own the projects.you should use the term "mud people". if you're gonna post neo-nazi stuff... at least get the terminology correct.

[sukie]

Those would be israili's if I was trying to be derrogatory

[Billsman]

Dunkirk Engineering Company

Geared Locomotive Builders

http://www.s363.com/images/dkny/decad.jpgThe Dunkirk Engineering Company was formed in 1888 when four investors purchased the remaining assets of the Dunkirk Iron Works. The group consisted of Edward Nichols, Charles J. Carney, Charles F. White and P.C. West. Nichols served as president of the firm.

The young company acquired the patents of George D. Gilbert for his Class A and Class B geared locomotive designs. Gilbert was formerly associated with Climax in Corry, PA. The first Gilbert designed locomotive was completed in early 1890.

http://www.s363.com/images/dkny/jwb_s.jpg (http://www.s363.com/images/dkny/jwb.jpg) The Blaisdell Kindling Wood Company, of Bradford Pennsylvania, purchased a thirteen ton class B locomotive in December of 1891. The locomotive was named "J.W. Blausdell No. 2". By 1910 the firm had the locomotive up for sale.
Click on the photo for a larger view.

Competition from nearby Climax and Heisler, and the hard economic times of the 1890's took their toll on the small company. Within five years, production had ended. In all, about fifty locomotives were built.
For a detailed account of the Dunkirk Engineering Company refer to the following text:

"The Geared Locomotives of Dunkirk" By David M. Hoffman, 1979

[nehemiah]

Then perhaps you are undesirable. Do you bathe? Use drugs? Let your kids run roughshod over the neighborhood? i am an extremely desirable person. the ladies love nehemiah. the ladies' moms love nehemiah. people can't get enough of nehemiah. all for a man who grew up in the projects.

does it annoy you that i am so much kewler, smarter, and better looking than you?

:D

[Billsman]

History of the Brooks Locomotive Works

Horatio G. Brooks

Horatio G. Brooks began his railroad career during the construction of the New York and Erie Railroad. At the time of its completion, in 1851, it was the longest railroad in the world. The six foot gauge railroad connected Piermont on the Hudson with Dunkirk, New York on Lake Erie.
During his career with the Erie, H. G. Brooks worked his way up from a locomotive engineer to superintendent of motive power and machinery for the entire railroad. He was at the controls of the first train to arrive in Dunkirk over the new road when it opened.
Shortly after the opening of the line, the Erie opened a branch from Hornell to Buffalo. It was soon realized that Buffalo, and not Dunkirk, would be the major Lake Erie port for New York State. The Erie soon abandoned its shops and relocated them to Buffalo.This resulted in the loss of what was Dunkirks largest employer.
In 1869, Horatio Brooks came to the rescue. He leased the former Erie shops and founded the Brooks Locomotive Works.
The Brooks Works

The Brooks Locomotive Works was officially formed on November 11, 1869. The initial capital stock of the company was valued at $350,000.00. It was subsequently raised to $500,000.00. The Trustees for the new company were: H.G. Brooks of Dunkirk; M.L. Hinman of Brooklyn; M.R. Simons, J. H. Bacon, and W. O. Chapin of New York City. The first executive officers were: H.G. Brooks, president and superintendent; M. L. Hinman, secretary and treasurer.
The capital allowed Brooks to expand the facility into one of the largest operations of its kind in the state. Soon he was producing seven locomotives per month, compared to one a month when the Erie ran the shops. During the first year of operation, 37 locomotives and 100 freight cars were produced. During the second twelve months of operation, 43 new locomotives were built. Most of the major railroads of the time could be counted as customers. The financial crisis of 1873 caused business to fall off dramatically, but it began to recover within a few years.
By the 1880's the economy had improved and the future looked better for the Brooks Works. In 1883 Brooks locomotives were judged Best in Show at the Chicago Industrial Exposition. The 1000th locomotive was completed February 22, 1884.
The early 1890's brought another financial depression upon the country. In 1891 Brooks built 226 locomotives. In 1894 total production fell to 90 locomotives. Prosperity did not return to the Brooks works until after the turn of the century, when it became part of the American Locomotive Company.
The American Locomotive Company

In 1901 the Brooks Locomotive Works merged with the Schenectady Locomotive Works, and several other locomotive builders, to form the American Locomotive Company. The Dunkirk works grew steadily, and by 1921 employed about 4500 people. The last steam locomotive was produced in 1928. After that, production of steam locomotives in New York state was shifted to the Schenectady works. The plant continued to produce spare parts for locomotives for a few years. Although locomotive production had ended, there was still work to be done in Dunkirk.
ALCO Products

After locomotive production had ended, plant was renamed "ALCO Thermal Products Division". Thermal products such as, heat exchangers, pipe and high pressure vessels were fabricated at the plant. ALCO built custom made products for refineries, power plants and water treatment facilities. Pipe of all types were also manufactured at the plant.
World War II

Like many other plants, the Dunkirk works focused on the war effort. Two models of the "Long Tom" artillery gun were produced. This was a very large piece, and the ability to handle large forgings and do precision machining on a large scale was a requirement. ALCO had a 750 ton press, a 1500 ton crimper and a 25' boring mill to handle these massive chores.
Under terms of the Lend - Lease Act, 900 locomotives were shipped to Russia. Parts for these locomotives were manufactured at the Dunkirk plant.
The End

After World War II, production of custom made products resumed. Unfortunately the trend was to use standardized equipment. The plant never regained its place as the leader in local manufacturing. In 1962 the company decided to sell the facility. The remaining 750 workers were laid off.

[sukie]

Projects where? (and I wasn't trying to be an anti semite especially since my wife is a recovering jew)

[nehemiah]

it's all in good fun, sukiemiah.

i grew up in the sheridan projects.

down the street from (what used to be) linde chemical - at the corner of sheridan dr and sheridan parkside.

[nehemiah]

was dunkirk a major rail hub or what?

[Billsman]

Neh, yes, in the old days. They used to build locomotives, it was a fabulous place to grow up, back when. But now it's not so fabulous.

[Billsman]

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Dunkirk is a city in Chautauqua County, in the Jamestown-Dunkirk-Fredonia metro area.

[NOTE: This is not the only community in New York named Dunkirk. For links to other places called Dunkirk, NY, see the Duplicate Names box at right.]

The community is in the Eastern Standard time zone.

The latitude of Dunkirk is 42.479N. The longitude is -79.334W.

The estimated population, in 2003, was 12,715.

Income snapshotMedian household incomeLocal $28,313National $41,994Source: 2000 census, U.S. Census BureauFor more census details and comparisons, see our Dunkirk demographic reports (http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/popInfo.php?locIndex=545)
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Dunkirk is on Lake Erie
The community was named for French port city Considered for a brief time as the western terminus for the Erie Canal, a designation that later went to Buffalo.The first train to traverse the full 483 miles of the Erie Railroad arrived here from New York City in 1851

Served as a center for making locomotives until the onset of the diesel engine, when such manufacturing shifted to Schenectady

Crime: The number of violent crimes recorded by the FBI in 2003 was 44. The number of murders and homicides was 1. The violent crime rate was 3.4 per 1,000 people.

Local festivals include:
· Chautauqua County Fair - July 26-31, 2005
Dates often change. Check Dunkirk web sites and events links in the sections below. Historic sites and museums: Dunkirk Historical Museum, Dunkirk Historical Lighthouse
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Support for libraries: Local government funding for the local library system, in fiscal years 2001-2002, was below the national average. (See library links below.)

Quotes:
"Dunkirk is invaluable as offering the only port between Buffalo and Erie. A number of gentlemen in Albany are the principal proprietors of this village and its vicinity; they have expended considerable sums in the erection of a wharf, a road to Fredonia, and other improvements."

-- A Tour from the City of New-York, to Detroit, 1818
William Darby

[sukie]

I grew up on gubment cheese and the vats of peanut butter they gave out. Dad died at 40 1972 and mom quit work shortly after because my brother was a handful. Where you grew up has no bearing on what you become. I never realized I was poor till adulthood looking back. That is why I never use my upbringing as a crutch , ever.

[nehemiah]

Where you grew up has no bearing on what you become.you better tell pete that. he's a bit confused on the matter.

[nehemiah]

when i went to fredonia, i made a few latina friends from dunkirk.

good times, good times.

[sukie]

I'm still waiting for "what inner city" response.

[sukie]

when i went to fredonia, i made a few latina friends from dunkirk.

good times, good times.
What made you think they were latina? mayan features ? You racist you. Hee Hee.

[Billsman]

Almost 200 years ago, pioneer Solomon Chadwick realized things really were better by the bay. After he settled at what is now Dunkirk Harbor, his hospitality to sailors and settlers alike made "Chadwick's Bay" synonymous with all the best that growing region had to offer.

Starting in the mid 1980's, a renaissance commenced in Dunkirk. The genesis for this was multifaceted: Dunkirk's unparalleled location on Lake Erie; public and private investment of $20.4 million including acquisition of key parcels of public and private development, city and private investment in a new 132-room hotel in a key location on the lake, development of a 430-slip marina on Chadwick Bay adjacent to the hotel, and local developer investment in the historic downtown area along Central Avenue.

Today the Chadwick Bay region has a rich heritage and a bright future. With its unique combination of old fashioned values and resources for tomorrow, the Chadwick Bay region offers its seven member communities a great opportunity to lead Northern Chautauqua County into a new century of prosperity.


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Chadwick Bay Area - Dunkirk, NY
Chadwick Bay Communities

Dunkirk
The Town of Dunkirk
Fredonia
Pomfret
Portland
Sheridan
Silver Creek

[35Pete]

I'm still waiting for "what inner city" response.
Buffalo.

[nehemiah]

What made you think they were latina? mayan features ? You racist you. Hee Hee.their spanish-speaking mothers. :rockon:

[nehemiah]

good fishing in dunkirk. right off that pier.

[sukie]

Buffalo.
What hopital?

[35Pete]

What hopital?
Sister's of Charity

[HURLS]

Fredonia is a more picturesque village. No crack dealers on corners, and no need for armed guards in the schools. Dunkirk can be nice in the summer though. Other than that, stay indoors.

[Norwoodsrevenge]

Dunkirk can be nice in the summer though. Other than that, stay indoors.

And out of the hospital!