Career Triple Crowners

[HURLS]

They just showed Man-Ram's info. He has won a batting title, a HR title, and the RBI total. Who else has done that in their career, other than the natural winners.

[Orange Nation]

The Red Sox plan to shop outfielder Manny Ramirez this winter, and have talked about sending Ramirez to the Mets for Carlos Beltran...

The Sox talked to the Mets around the trade deadline about trading Manny for Carlos Beltran, and they are expected to talk more about it during the offseason. So Beltran could play Centerfield if Damon doesn't get resigned. Beltran would be awesome at Fenway. When he played for the Astros last year, playing all his home game at Minute Maid Park, where they have a very short Left field fence(315 feet) during the second half really helped him and he hit 23 HR's in just 90 games with them.

Carlos Delgado on Tuesday became the ninth player in baseball history with nine consecutive seasons of 30 or more homers. According to one report, Delgado may be trying to extend that streak elsewhere next season. In his ESPN Insider column, Peter Gammons suggested that if the Marlins do not make the playoffs the organization's financial losses would force them to trade Delgado. In addition, he mentioned the Marlins would seek to move him to the Mets before they could strike a deal for Boston's Manny Ramirez. Because at that same point Sox are interested in rolling out a lucrative Manny/Beltran deal. Delgado said he heard the report reiterated on ESPN Tuesday night. Asked about that scenario before Wednesday's game, team President David Samson rolled his eyes and snickered.


Carlos Delgado is a career .246 hitter in 73 games at Fenway Park

Carlos Beltran in 19 games bats at .325 at the Fens

[Merk]

The Sox talked to the Mets around the trade deadline about trading Manny for Carlos Beltran, and they are expected to talk more about it during the offseason. So Beltran could play Centerfield if Damon doesn't get resigned. Beltran would be awesome at Fenway. When he played for the Astros last year, playing all his home game at Minute Maid Park, where they have a very short Left field fence(315 feet) during the second half really helped him and he hit 23 HR's in just 90 games with them.



Carlos Delgado is a career .246 hitter in 73 games at Fenway Park

Carlos Beltran in 19 games bats at .325 at the Fens




What the Helll does any of this have to do w/ the question Hurls asked?

[HURLS]

What does any of that have to do with my question?

[HURLS]

LOL, Merk beat me to it

[The REAL Sabres]

Yeah, I was thoroughly confused and thought I might have missed something earlier tonight.

[HURLS]

BTW, if we're going OT, Merk. Yesterdays HR was def. clutch by ARod, so hopefully he continues. I want more of that.

[Merk]

LOL, Merk beat me to it



lolol, Yea by 1 sec


Thats pretty close

[HURLS]

Yeah, I was thoroughly confused and thought I might have missed something earlier tonight.

You didn't. I would have posted it in YOUR Forum if it was important. Oops, I cannot. :D

[Merk]

BTW, if we're going OT, Merk. Yesterdays HR was def. clutch by ARod, so hopefully he continues. I want more of that.




Yea that was clutch



The only other 2 I can remember off hand was the HR off Wickman and the one off Curt to tie the Sox's then Giambi won it later. I also remember some big hits against the Mets and one against the Rays but I cant remember the situations

[HURLS]

lolol, Yea by 1 sec


Thats pretty close

yep, 1 sec is all it takes, ask my ex. :(

[Orange Nation]

What does any of that have to do with my question?

nothing, but no one was replying so I had to say something associated with manny.

[HURLS]

Now that we're completely off topic, the beef I have with ARod is he performs outstanding in games where it's not really "clutch". Minus the games you/I listed. He had that monster game vs. Colon, that was nice. But it seems like he piles on when we don't need it. I would rather him do nothing vs. the weaker teams, and totally killed the Red Sox. But that just hasn't happened.

[Merk]

Now that we're completely off topic, the beef I have with ARod is he performs outstanding in games where it's not really "clutch". Minus the games you/I listed. He had that monster game vs. Colon, that was nice. But it seems like he piles on when we don't need it. I would rather him do nothing vs. the weaker teams, and totally killed the Red Sox. But that just hasn't happened.



I agree, and I think he is coming around though and finally starting to feel good in the pinstripes. Like you said he still has to prove himself in big spots against the Sox's and in the Playoffs.

[HURLS]

So is there any other career TC winners? The only one I could think of is possibly Mattingly, or maybe Eddie Murray? Not sure of either, just tossing names out. Mattingly probably didn't win HR crown, but I thought he may have been close the yr he hit all those GS.

[John]

So is there any other career TC winners? The only one I could think of is possibly Mattingly, or maybe Eddie Murray? Not sure of either, just tossing names out. Mattingly probably didn't win HR crown, but I thought he may have been close the yr he hit all those GS.

Since you are back on topic, Babe Ruth is one answer. He never won a true triple crown, believe it or not . . .

[John]

Come to think of it, Joe Dimagio is another career triple crown guy who never won a true triple crown . . .

[John]

. . . and Mattingly never won a HR crown . . .

[John]

I just looked up Eddie Murray - he never led the league in average. He finished second once, but never led.

[John]

I just tried Willie mays too - he never led the league in RBI - finished 2nd in 1962 with 141 . . .

[John]

Totally unoffical list since 1900:

American League
Actual Triple Crown Winners

Nap Lajoie+ (PHA)
Ty Cobb*+ (DET)
Jimmie Foxx+ (PHA)
Lou Gehrig*+ (NYY)
Ted Williams*+ (BOS)
Mickey Mantle#+ (NYY)
Frank Robinson+ (BAL)
Carl Yastrzemski*+ (BOS)


Lifetime Winners

Alex Rodriguez (TEX)
Babe Ruth*+ (NYY)
Manny Ramirez (BOS)
Joe DiMaggio+ (NYY)


National League

Actual Triple Crown Winners

Heinie Zimmerman (CHC)
Rogers Hornsby+ (STL)
Chuck Klein*+ (PHI)
Joe Medwick+ (STL)


Lifetime Winners

Hank Aaron+ (ATL)
Johnny Mize*+ (NYG)
Andres Galarraga (COL)
Barry Bonds* (SFG)


This was done league by league basis - not across leagues.

[HURLS]

Thanks for the look-up John. The name that jumps out at me is The Big Cat. That I never would have guessed.

[Orange Nation]

I found some that John missed.

Dan Brouthers
Ed Delahanty
Sam Thompson
Hugh Duffy
Paul Hines

[John]

I found some that John missed.

Dan Brouthers
Ed Delahanty
Sam Thompson
Hugh Duffy
Paul Hines


These are the pre 1900 guys - nice list.