Should the Bills give Dinkins a shot at QB this year?

Should we take a look to see if we have the next Aaron Brooks?

[junglesouljah]

I see no reason not to. You can't play much worse than AVP did last game, and atleast Dinkins is mobile so he should be able to run for his life behind the bills line.

[bduff54]

for sure, call me racist but i think we need a black QB, they are better athletes. don't take this wrong way but the future is in good young balck QB's. mcnabb, culpepper, brooks. they are just better than immobile white guys like van pelt. i hope that didn't sound racist.:D does he know the offense at all yet?

[junglesouljah]

SI, had an interesting articale on the subject of black athlete's in sport a couple of years ago. If I remember correctly they implied there more black athlete's in sports because they don't have alot of options as far as future career's are concerned, and view sports as a way to sucess. I wish I still had that article.

[bduff54]

i think he should get a shot, travis brown will be no better than van pelt, he is very immobile.

[bduff54]

who's that farrah chick? love that booty:)

[junglesouljah]

bduff54, she's easy on the eyes for sure!! Farrah used to be Destiny's Child but got kicked out, Farrah and Beyonce didn't get along. I heard she's doing a solo project now.

[Justafan]

Originally posted by bduff54
for sure, call me racist but i think we need a black QB, they are better athletes. don't take this wrong way but the future is in good young balck QB's. mcnabb, culpepper, brooks. they are just better than immobile white guys like van pelt. i hope that didn't sound racist.:D does he know the offense at all yet?

Race has got nothing to do w/ QB abilities. Manning, Farve etc. I don't care what race as long as he can play. Everyone should get a chance. Rj's had three and AVP had/has, I'm sure management will look into their options.

[DCBillsFan]

Race has nothing to do with it. Black, white, purple...I don't give a ******, as long as they can play. This season is FUBAR, so why not see what Dinkins can do.

[bduff54]

no race may not have naything to do with playing QB, but i think it does play a role in what kind of QB yo uwant. the majority of the white guys are pocket passers, the lack guys seem to be more mobile.

[Justafan]

the midget was mobile and so was Rob. Everything depends on the system you are running. The WCO should not need a mobile QB but w/ the OL we have we need Carl Lewis:D

[bduff54]

yeah, you don't necessarily have to be a big name to do well, look at warnner, he is from some idaho school or something.

[JerseyBills]

No.Dinkins is just another running back who threw it in college.Just like Bishop,Frost,Smith,Frazier,McNair,et al.The real QBs look to throw it first, not "be an athlete, then throw".The best QBs of all time were pocket passers.It's the only way!

[ricogarion]

When as fans we are considering playing someone at QB who has allready been waived once this season then we know the season has gone down the crapper!We should just bring back Willie Totten!

[Manana]

:o

I restate the position I took before last Sunday's game... why not give Travis Brown a chance and see what he can do, he apparently has some command of the WCO. Dinkins is another RB trying to play QB... none has been successful yet! Tom Brady doesn't appear too mobile either, but I'd sure be happy if Travis Brown showed his possibilities!

[Voltron]

I just read an artical that said Dinkins has been on the practice squad as a D back and another position but not QB AT ALL! Scott Dreisbach who was just signed by Detroit was the Practice Squad QB not Dinkins. He doesn't know the sytem, the plays or his ass from a hole in the ground in this offense. I would recomend some people look at the artical it is in the "Today's News and Media Reports"

[jeffblue19]

actually, Steve Young and Joe Montana always had a lot of rushing yards while running the WCO.

[jeffblue19]

Steve Young actually is 7th on San Fran's all-time rushing list with 609 carries for 3,577 yards (5.8 yard average) and 34 rushing TDs. That's only 16 less rushing TDs than Roger Craig.

[jeffblue19]

Montana's numbers weren't as impressive, but he ran 457 times for 1676 (3.7 yards per carry) in his career.

[Stealth01]

If Dinkins can learn the O and make the decisions, then sure -- give him a try.

He apparently has good athleticism, speed, and a missile launcher for an arm (something that made GW's jaw drop in pre-season).

That's Rob.

He lacks, however, a keen understanding of the O, decision-making abilities based on that, and positive results as a QB.

That's Rob.

IF (and that's a big if) Dinkins can improve his knowledge of the game and make the right decisions, sure give him a shot. If not, he's just another RB.

We should sign Henry Burris or Khari Jones.

[jeffblue19]

Oh yea, i forgot JEff Garcia. In just 3 seasons with the 49ers, he has 175 carries for 878 yards...a 5 yard average. Am i making my case that QBs that can run with the football are good for the WCO?

Garcia is an ex-CFLer. I rest my case. :D

[jeffblue19]

Ok, Rob Johnson has 122 carries for 797 yards, a 6.5 yard average and 4 TDs. Of the 4 though, HE hasn't gotten the job done on an all-around basis. His CAREER stats are enough to make up ONE season. The guy hasn't stayed healthy, and that would be my biggest reason for not keeping him (if i could make the decision and i decided NOT to, THAT would be the biggest reason). My point was that you need a mobile QB though. Dinkins is mobile, but i haven't seen him enough AT ALL to make a decision on whether he can even play the QB position at all. AVP doesn't fit the mobility idea. When the quick pass is'nt there, and you can't afford to throw it away (because you'll get it INTed, then you have to be able to make plays with your feet. That's what made Montana, Young and now Garcia successful.

[JerseyBills]

What made 49er QBs better was the exceptional talent all those teams had and the fact that they all had time to learn the wco.Joe didn't start immediately,Steve sat for what,4 years.Jeff sat and then struggled for a year!And without the running game, Steve ran for his life his last year.
Mobile IS good, but having the other pieces makes your qb running a threat.Not a necessity.

That's the kind of fautly comparison that I'm talkin' about there jeff. RJ hasn't had anywhere near the OL that S.F. had under any of those guys, Montana, Young, or Garcia. It's a inapropriate comparison given the two entirely different sets of circumstances. I'm sure RJ would have been awesome in the Niners offense.

I really don't understand this bashing of RJ in this WCO offense.

We all complain and gripe that it's not the WCO, but then FOR RJ it IS the WCO! Well, which is it? I see an O LOADED w/ problems and issues that don't face a team as a collective once in 30 years on average or more I'm sure. But here it's completely mitigated b/c Rob has this stigma. It's a shame. I would still like to see what Rob can do w/ a solid OL for an entire season. I really think many people would be impressed. Just MO.

But you could put Garcia, Montana, and Young in our O and none of them would have done jack if they had had to play in it in it's current state for their careers. So why is RJ all of a sudden a poor WCO QB when he himself has tried to learn it WITH ALL the other changes going on, and frankly not very effectively, at the same time?

Just curious!

All I'm sayin' is that I think it's too early to write RJ off.

He may very well not be able to do the job, I just don't think what we've seen so far has been all that definitive especially since the WCO master himself, VP, can't seem to do any better! Apparently he didn't need any training in it since he was already very well versed in it.

[timfromjersey]

Sure, give both Brown and Dinkins a chance to play, to see if there is real potential. I mean, is there a better time to look at backups playing in a real game than now, since the season is totally shot? The team isn't even playing hard now. Maybe they will get a little excited with the rookies playing.

I reject the notion that only the black qbs are good running qb's or the best athletes. Why? Farve, Gannon, garcia, Flutie, Johnson and even Fiedler are very good athletes who can run.

That chicks butt is too fat and bulbous for my taste.

[Mad Bomber]

David Dinkins?

He was a crappy NYC mayor; why should he be a good QB? Besides, he's way too old...

Damn, now I'm starting to sound like Rude........:hammerhea

[jjm19672000]

Sure, let's give Dinkins a shot--a mobile QB with a strong arm. Give him time to learn behind Bledsoe and AVP, and who knows, we may have our next great backup.