Scouting Report on Mike Nugent

[BillsCAfan]

Mike Nugent has a lot of experience as a kicker, having started all four of his seasons with the Ohio State Buckeyes. He was the recipient of the 2004 Lou Groza award, given to the nation's best kicker. He has a cannon for a leg and consistently makes kicks from 50 yards and beyond. He is now the Buckeyes all-time leading scorer and holds 19 other records including most field goals made from 50 yards. His teammates honored him this year by making him the team’s most valuable player for his 2004 performance. He is the only kicker in Ohio State history to receive this honor. He is also among the best in the country as a kickoff specialist, with just under 62% of his kickoffs being touchbacks as a senior. Mike Nugent is one of the best prospects to come out of college at the kicker position in recent memory. He could be a 3rd round pick on draft day.


Tell me you wouldnt spend a 3rd rounder to get this guy. I would even trade down our 2nd pick and get him. This guy would make our team so much better. Wow, the feeling of a consistent kicking game, I wonder what that would feel like???

[RockyTopBill]

I think Nugent is an excellent upgrade over what we have. With him and Moorman we will have the cornerstones of our special teams for years to come. I think he is worth our 2nd round choice easily. I think we will let Jonas go, get Shelton, and get another FA guard like Garza (atl) for a decent price. We can then draft line with our 3rd round chice and go center or guard. NUGENT is worth at least 2 extra wins a year....guaranteed.

[35Pete]

Don't spend higher than a 4th rounder on a kicker. Good rule of thumb to live by. The difference between a 2nd or 3rd round kicker and a 4th rounder is not that much. Better off getting a stud OL or DL then a kicker in those higher rounds.

[RockyTopBill]

Nugent is the only kicker worth drafting in the draft. There is not really another option in the FA market. Nugent will be gone by the beginning of the 3rd round. We need him.

[ricogarion]

Nugent would look real good in one of those Bills helmets for sure,Only question I have is how soon should they pull the trigger?

[35Pete]

Get an OL or a DE in the second. Don't waste a 2nd rounder on a kicker.

[BillsCAfan]

Get an OL or a DE in the second. Don't waste a 2nd rounder on a kicker.

Yeah, why not spend a 2nd rounder on a player who individually counts for the most points than any other player on the team.

What a concept.

[35Pete]

Because we can get one in FA or with a 4th round pick and the talent level will usually not drop off that much. This reminds me too much with the near sexual obsession with Joey Harrington back in the 2002 draft.

[RockyTopBill]

Name a kicker other than Nugent that is worth drafting? none

Name a FA kicker the Bills can go get? maybe Feely, but Atl will probably resign him.

So I guess we will see another year of Lindell. Lets hope there is no pressure kick more than 30 yards or we are toast.

[BillsCAfan]

Because we can get one in FA or with a 4th round pick and the talent level will usually not drop off that much. This reminds me too much with the near sexual obsession with Joey Harrington back in the 2002 draft.

Joey Harrington didn't do anything in college. No big wins, nothing, and QBs are always overrated.

Nugent is the best kicker in the draft. Plain and simple, and there is absolutely no one you could draft in the 4th or later that will come close to what he can do and the potential he has. There isn't even a kicker in the FA market that is as good.

Nugent has stepped up all his career, and its not hype. This kid has been a starter all for years, and has more school records than ANY kicker on any team in NCAA history, and as a kicker, on a team like Ohio State, was the MVP. Not Holmes, not Hawk, not Ginn, but NUGENT. MVP.

He has made clutch kicks all his career as well, simply watch the Fiesta Bowl. Pressure has no effect. He has it all. He has all the physical talent with all the intagibles.

Look at what Kaeding did this season with SD as a rookie. He was very very solid on a playoff team, except for his last kick which was the most important...but in comparison to Kaeding, Nugent is 5x as better.

This is a special kid. Franchise kicker for the next 15 years. No more missed 28 yarders with playoffs on the line.

Is he worth a 2nd round pick....yes in the later round. Is he worth a 3rd rounder....YOU DAMN RIGHT.

But he will be gone by the 3rd round. I will put 10000 chips on the line for whoever wants to take it. He will be picked in the 2nd round.

[BillsCAfan]

And if its true that the Bills are interested in Vinateri is GREAT news for the prospects of us getting Nugent. This means they see the glaring need to upgrade that position, and are willing to make a great commitment to get a great kicker, which means they will go after Nugent if they can't get Vinetari, which they WON'T.

[Flatlander]

The Bills once had Gary Anderson in camp and then cut him when he missed a bunch of kicks in the preseason. He ends up being one of the best ever. You never know how a kicker is going to do coming out of college. Especially in December and January in Buffalo. If you spend a draft pick on one, you almost have to give the guy the job. I'd rather go the free agent route for a kicker, to see if he can handle the pressures of the NFL. Some teams will never draft a kicker for that reason. I agree with them.

[BillsCAfan]

The Bills once had Gary Anderson in camp and then cut him when he missed a bunch of kicks in the preseason. He ends up being one of the best ever. You never know how a kicker is going to do coming out of college. Especially in December and January in Buffalo. If you spend a draft pick on one, you almost have to give the guy the job. I'd rather go the free agent route for a kicker, to see if he can handle the pressures of the NFL. Some teams will never draft a kicker for that reason. I agree with them.

Kicking in Buffalo.....Nugent has kicked in Ohio for his entire career.

Kicking under pressure......if kicking in the biggest college football game of the year being a HUGE underdog and still going perfect isn't performing under pressure, then I don't know what is.

[FknGvna]

What's wrong with spending a high pick on a kicker. Not all picks are guaranteed, ever heard of first round busts. Some lower draft picks don't even get to see a 53 man roster.

[BillsCAfan]

What's wrong with spending a high pick on a kicker. Not all picks are guaranteed, ever heard of first round busts. Some lower draft picks don't even get to see a 53 man roster.

Thank you. At least someone gets it. People think that by drafting a lineman or te or some other position in the 2nd or 3rd guarantees a starter......which isn't true.

Does this mean that Nugent is a lock to be a franchise kicker? No, but he is the best at his position the draft and in previous drafts in many years. When you can describe someone within those terms, its as close to a lock that he will be a franchise player for you at that position than anything else.

[jaymitch84]

Don't spend higher than a 4th rounder on a kicker. Good rule of thumb to live by. The difference between a 2nd or 3rd round kicker and a 4th rounder is not that much. Better off getting a stud OL or DL then a kicker in those higher rounds.

A stud OL or DL? We got Kelsay in the second round, some stud-like play he's turned up with so far. We got Mike Williams with the 4th overall pick, and it took him a couple years before he started playing like he was supposed to.

Brady, QB of 3 of the last 4 winning Super Bowl teams was drafted in round 6. Good rule of thumb I guess would then be to draft a QB later than round 4 right at all times right? I mean, look at the failures of Akili Smith!

You can say all you want about the history of kickers and their successes and failures, but please, name me one position where players historically play well when drafted high? You can make an argument for just about any position to draft it lower.

So why not use a pick on Nugent? If all this being said about him is true, how could you not want him in a Bills uniform? Do you REALLY want to have Lindell be the guy for another year?

(Anyone like my sweet use of Akili Smith, avoiding the use of Ryan Leaf's name, the most oft-mentioned QB on this board to never wear a Buffalo uniform?)

[FknGvna]

Isn't Donahoes strength is drafting the best available athlete?

[Fogwrestler]

i posted the same article in a thread in the War Room yesterday, and I totally agree with BillsCAFan: we need to draft this guy.

But, as a number of people are currently trying to decide, is he worth a second round pick, or do we risk waiting as late as the third round. I say grab him if we can.

As i've expressed a jillion times at the Range, Lindell sucks, has sucked, did suck, still sucks, will continue to suck.

He just can't kick.

[FknGvna]

Could we trade something with Henry to get AZs 2nd?

[billsrdue2002]

He's going to be gone before the third round. Other than Ray Guy or Sabstian Janokowski, I'd never ever consider a high draft pick for a kicker. But this kid is as special as the aforementioned. He'd be a special addition to our special teams. We need a special kicker, especially if he can perform under pressure and get the job done working outdoors in Ralph's Windtunnel.

[odieman]

Because we can get one in FA or with a 4th round pick and the talent level will usually not drop off that much. This reminds me too much with the near sexual obsession with Joey Harrington back in the 2002 draft.

Exactly! Look how easily Lindell fell into our laps.

[dognipples69]

Don't spend higher than a 4th rounder on a kicker. Good rule of thumb to live by. The difference between a 2nd or 3rd round kicker and a 4th rounder is not that much. Better off getting a stud OL or DL then a kicker in those higher rounds.
I hate how people live and die by where a guy should be picked. Freeney was said to have been a major reach by dungy... and it was only 5 picks or something... pick who your gut instinct is... half these guys dont do ****..

[dognipples69]

how many games do you live and die by the kicker... especially a run oriented attack?

[John]

The "Cult of Nuge" is very much alive on this board. Does anyone have any sense of who else might be interested in him early in the draft? I would guess it would have to be a pretty good team, or they will have too many other wholes. The Jets? Other?

[BillsCAfan]

These teams that pick ahead of us could want Nugent. So Nugent might be gone in the 2nd before we even pick.

Cowboys
Giants
Cardinals
Vikings
Colts (pick after us in 2nd)
Jets (pick after us in 2nd)


If Nugent gets through these teams, we gotta take him. If not, he'll be gone by our pick in the 3rd. One of these teams will draft him.

Niners
Bucs
Titans
Cowboys
Gaints
Cardinals
Vikings

Basically we take him in the 2nd if we get a chance, or we don't get him.

If we trade Henry for Shelton, one of our biggest needs will be taken care of via that trade. Our defense is stacked, and we need a TE, OG, and another WR.

Use our 3rd to pick the best OG or TE available, and sign a WR in free agency.

The kicking position is at this point our biggest need. Our line played just fine last year, and they will play much better this year after a year under McNally. We can live on that consistency. We need a kicker to solidify that position.

[gr8slayer]

I just dont want to use our second on him, anything above that is fine with me.

[SweetLee8 3PlayaWha?]

A stud OL or DL? We got Kelsay in the second round, some stud-like play he's turned up with so far. We got Mike Williams with the 4th overall pick, and it took him a couple years before he started playing like he was supposed to.

Brady, QB of 3 of the last 4 winning Super Bowl teams was drafted in round 6. Good rule of thumb I guess would then be to draft a QB later than round 4 right at all times right? I mean, look at the failures of Akili Smith!

You can say all you want about the history of kickers and their successes and failures, but please, name me one position where players historically play well when drafted high? You can make an argument for just about any position to draft it lower.

So why not use a pick on Nugent? If all this being said about him is true, how could you not want him in a Bills uniform? Do you REALLY want to have Lindell be the guy for another year?

(Anyone like my sweet use of Akili Smith, avoiding the use of Ryan Leaf's name, the most oft-mentioned QB on this board to never wear a Buffalo uniform?)

Excellent post. You said it perfectly. I wouldn't be the least bit upset if we pull the trigger on Nugent. That dude is automatic. He instills complete comfidence when he's lining up compared to Lindell who appears lost and scurred before every attempt.

[BillsCAfan]

Its just an interesting stigma people have against kickers. People don't realize their importance.

If people did, then no one would object to drafting the best kicker in recent draft history, even if its using our 2nd pick.

[SweetLee8 3PlayaWha?]

Its just an interesting stigma people have against kickers. People don't realize their importance.

If people did, then no one would object to drafting the best kicker in recent draft history, even if its using our 2nd pick.

It's pretty shortsighted. Kickers can have such a huge impact on the outcome of a game.

[hello]

Joey Harrington didn't do anything in college. No big wins, nothing, and QBs are always overrated.

Nugent is the best kicker in the draft. Plain and simple, and there is absolutely no one you could draft in the 4th or later that will come close to what he can do and the potential he has. There isn't even a kicker in the FA market that is as good.

Nugent has stepped up all his career, and its not hype. This kid has been a starter all for years, and has more school records than ANY kicker on any team in NCAA history, and as a kicker, on a team like Ohio State, was the MVP. Not Holmes, not Hawk, not Ginn, but NUGENT. MVP.

He has made clutch kicks all his career as well, simply watch the Fiesta Bowl. Pressure has no effect. He has it all. He has all the physical talent with all the intagibles.

Look at what Kaeding did this season with SD as a rookie. He was very very solid on a playoff team, except for his last kick which was the most important...but in comparison to Kaeding, Nugent is 5x as better.

This is a special kid. Franchise kicker for the next 15 years. No more missed 28 yarders with playoffs on the line.

Is he worth a 2nd round pick....yes in the later round. Is he worth a 3rd rounder....YOU DAMN RIGHT.

But he will be gone by the 3rd round. I will put 10000 chips on the line for whoever wants to take it. He will be picked in the 2nd round.
I will take you up on that bet, 10,000 chips even though neither one of us has it okay? Administers you got that?

[BillsCAfan]

I will take you up on that bet, 10,000 chips even though neither one of us has it okay? Administers you got that?

Lets do it, I'll cover you up to 10,000 chips by the time the draft comes around.

[John]

These teams that pick ahead of us could want Nugent. So Nugent might be gone in the 2nd before we even pick.

Cowboys
Giants
Cardinals
Vikings
Colts (pick after us in 2nd)
Jets (pick after us in 2nd)


If Nugent gets through these teams, we gotta take him. If not, he'll be gone by our pick in the 3rd. One of these teams will draft him.

Niners
Bucs
Titans
Cowboys
Gaints
Cardinals
Vikings

Basically we take him in the 2nd if we get a chance, or we don't get him.

I would be surprised if the Boys, Jints or Cards took a kicker in the 2nd - they have a lot of other needs. The Vikes are good enough to slot a kicker in the 2nd, but since thet play at least half thier games in a dome, I don't know if they would make it a high priority. Based on this list, Nuge should be on the board for us in the 2nd.

If we pass, the Jets are a possibility and the Colts are a possibility. These are playoff teams that need a kicker and might be willing to try a 2nd rounder, keeping in mind that the Colts also play in a dome. If they both pass in the 2nd, I'm still not sure the Niners Bucs Titans Boys or Jints would use a 3rd on a kicker - these teams still have a lot of needs. But the Vikes are a definate possibility in round 3.

[hello]

Lets do it, I'll cover you up to 10,000 chips by the time the draft comes around.
Okay, pm to confirm

[BuffaloBrawler]

As a huge Buckeye fan, I've seen just about every game in Nugent's college career...and he is as good as it gets. Not only does he have a cannon for a leg (makes 50+ yarders look routine and high % of touchbacks help a ton with field position), but he is so clutch! There is not much more pressure in college football than kicking in front of 105,000 every week in the Shoe. His 55 yarder as the clock expired this past season against Marshall was just unbelievable (and only one example of many).

I find it hard to believe that there is a Buffalo fan out there that wouldn't do just about anything possible to have a clutch kicker on their roster. I would use our 2nd round pick on Nuge in a heartbeat!!

[BillsCAfan]

As a huge Buckeye fan, I've seen just about every game in Nugent's college career...and he is as good as it gets. Not only does he have a cannon for a leg (makes 50+ yarders look routine and high % of touchbacks help a ton with field position), but he is so clutch! There is not much more pressure in college football than kicking in front of 105,000 every week in the Shoe. His 55 yarder as the clock expired this past season against Marshall was just unbelievable (and only one example of many).

I find it hard to believe that there is a Buffalo fan out there that wouldn't do just about anything possible to have a clutch kicker on their roster. I would use our 2nd round pick on Nuge in a heartbeat!!

I'm a huge Buckeye fan myself. Grew up Akron, and would have gone there if I didn't get into the school I wanted to go to. But yearh, I've seen him play almost every game, and he is just awesome. Most people that say they don't want to spend a 2nd rounder on this guy obviosly haven't see the guy kick. If would be impossible to not want this guy after seeing him kick the way he did in college.

[hello]

I'm a huge Buckeye fan myself. Grew up Akron, and would have gone there if I didn't get into the school I wanted to go to. But yearh, I've seen him play almost every game, and he is just awesome. Most people that say they don't want to spend a 2nd rounder on this guy obviosly haven't see the guy kick. If would be impossible to not want this guy after seeing him kick the way he did in college.
Did you make up an extra name and then post? is it called nuuuge?

[BillsCAfan]

Did you make up an extra name and then post? is it called nuuuge?

Haha, ok. Obviously you don't know squat, if you did, you would know that different names can be tracked to same IPs on this board.....but if you knew that, you wouldn't seem dumb.

[RedwardsSpellsByePat]

I have a feeling nugent might go at the end of the first or early second before we have a chance to draft him. Depth at kicker in the NFL is not great. The Andersons are over the hill, we have Lindell, No one trusts the Gramatica bro's anymore. I think getting this guy at the end of the first if we could trade up would be smart. I have never seen him play, but if he is good as brawler and billsfan say he is I think he should be gone probably by the end of the first like Janikowski. We need a kicker, so many games in the NFL are close, field position is so important. Missing the kicks that Lindell missed last year from inside the 30 killed our teams momemtum and confidence. Where would the Pats be without Vinitieri? Look how the Jets Playoffs were completely decided in the final minutes by their kicker. Even more than Big Sam, JJ, or Shelton, I am starting to think we might need this guy. He sounds like the real deal according to the Buckeye fans who have seen every game of his. I want NUGENT!

[Denverbillsfan]

Will you all please get off of this Nugent tangent. He is a kicker for pete sake, many of you seem to think he will be the saviour of this team. If a kicker is the most important member of your team then that team will be in big trouble. I think there are many other positions that need to be tended to first.

[RockyTopBill]

Will you all please get off of this Nugent tangent. He is a kicker for pete sake, many of you seem to think he will be the saviour of this team. If a kicker is the most important member of your team then that team will be in big trouble. I think there are many other positions that need to be tended to first.

He is not the most important person on the team, but he represents the one glaring weak spot on the team "kicker." Since we are getting Shelton and will probably sign a FA guard (hopefully DeMulling), this makes upgrading the kicker position a must. There is not a good kicker on the free agent market this year and other than The Nuge there is not a good kicker in the draft. I think these guys are so gung ho about the Nuge b/c they understand that a good kicker (the guy who scores the most points on the team) is a necesity.

[Mouldsie]

Nuge is the man.

[Denverbillsfan]

He is not the most important person on the team, but he represents the one glaring weak spot on the team "kicker." Since we are getting Shelton and will probably sign a FA guard (hopefully DeMulling), this makes upgrading the kicker position a must. There is not a good kicker on the free agent market this year and other than The Nuge there is not a good kicker in the draft. I think these guys are so gung ho about the Nuge b/c they understand that a good kicker (the guy who scores the most points on the team) is a necesity.

I understand that we need a kicker but I have been hearing about his guy for the past few months and I am sick of hearing about him. Like a posted in a different thread, when he chokes (which he will do since he is a rookie) everyone will then call for his head on a platter. Who is to say this guy will even be around for the Bills to take as many teams have proven they need a kicker for the upcoming season.

[BillsCAfan]

Will you all please get off of this Nugent tangent. He is a kicker for pete sake, many of you seem to think he will be the saviour of this team. If a kicker is the most important member of your team then that team will be in big trouble. I think there are many other positions that need to be tended to first.

I don't. Our offensive line played better than many NFL teams in the 2nd half of the season, and this was protecting a QB who had less mobility and held the ball a bit long. This will change with Losman, which automatically makes the line better, not to mention McGahee.

We don't need a QB, we don't need to draft a RB or WR early, and our line is fine as is, no need to draft anyone in the top 2-3 rounds. Yes, it woudl be nice, but I have minimal complaints about the play of our line. Teague stepped up big time, Williams had his best year, and Villarial was great. Tucker also did an excellent job manning the guard position. The only concern is if Jennings leaves, and that will be fixed during free agency, because do you really want a late 2nd rounder protecting Losman's blindside????

We don't need to draft anybody on defense. The only position that we really need to address is a TE, because Campbell and Euhus both suffered ACL tears.

HOWEVER, on the other side of the coin, we have a kicker who the coaches don't trust to kick anything longer than 40 yards. He had the least made FG over 40 this past year. The fact that there were rumors that TD is looking at Vinitarie shows how much the team is seeking improvement at that position, willing to take the cap hit to release Lindell and pay another guy big money.

Also, if you haven't noticed, kickers account for the most points any other player on the team. No they don't make tackels, they don't catch the ball, and they don't throw it either. This is the stigma against kickers throughout the league that is ignorant, but they are one of the most important part of the team.

Where would the Bills team be if Norwood made the FG, where would the Rams be if it wasnt' for Wilken kicking those clutch FG during their SB runs. Where would Panthers be without Kelsay and his clutch playoff kicks. Where would the Patriots be without Vinitarie, where would the Vikings be if Anderson made that FG against the Falcons that could have sent them to the playoffs. Hell, where would the Bills be if Lindell made a frickin 28 yarder in the Pitt game.

Having a solid franchise clutch kicker in the playoffs will ALWAYS be more valuable to a team than any 2nd string linemen we could muster up in the late 2nd round. We need to win close games to advance to the playoffs next year, ESPECIALLY in our division. And every playoff game will be very close, and every 3 points will count. Do you trust Lindell?? HELL NO. I trust Nugent more than I trust many of the current NFL kickers. Obviously you haven't seen him kick.

So according to the opposition group that is against drafting Nugent, we should get a linemen, only to have our playoff chances or games be blown away by a crappy kicker who the coaches don't rely on, and is losing the teams confidence and confidence in himself. There is a reason why Seattle didn't match the offer. Lindell sucks and we need stability at this position we haven't had since Christie. I am sick and tired of all this lets bring in someone undrafted or free agency, just like we did with Graham, Arians, Hollis, and Lindell, who were mediocre and then left.

[BillsCAfan]

I understand that we need a kicker but I have been hearing about his guy for the past few months and I am sick of hearing about him. Like a posted in a different thread, when he chokes (which he will do since he is a rookie) everyone will then call for his head on a platter. Who is to say this guy will even be around for the Bills to take as many teams have proven they need a kicker for the upcoming season.

Nugent won't choke. He has been groomed for clutch performances. He was the MVP on a very good Ohio State team for god's sake. That MEANS something, and he was voted MVP by his teammates, which also says something.

He has been the best kicker in one of the best programs in NCAA history, and he was part of one of the biggest upsets in NCAA championships, and he was nothing but CLUTCH.

[twosheds]

A Mike Nugent interview at Draftboardinsider.com:

Mike Nugent Interview (http://www.draftboardinsider.com/players/columns_nugent-m.html)

[RockyTopBill]

A Mike Nugent interview at Draftboardinsider.com:

Mike Nugent Interview (http://www.draftboardinsider.com/players/columns_nugent-m.html)

Hey twosheds that is a good article. I hope we are bale to get hi in the draft. It would be a big boost to our team.

[JayHall93]

I think it would be ridiculous to draft a Kicker. Too many FA possibilities. I don't care how good he is .

[Mouldsie]

possibilities like who?

[Fogwrestler]

I think it would be ridiculous to draft a Kicker. Too many FA possibilities. I don't care how good he is .

I honestly don't feel this way. The football unemployment lines are littered with former Bills draft picks who were not kickers and who did not help our team at all.

Our current kicker has been a major disappointment from the word go. Everyone who said last offseason that they thought Lindell would work out have been proven wrong, as he still cannot figure out how to be sure from inside the 30 yard line, and he is absolutely clueless from much beyond the 40 yard line.

I do not see any FA possibilities that look exceptionally interesting. As far as I can determine, here is the list:


2005 FREE AGENT TRACKER


PLACE KICKERS (in alphabetical order by free agent type):

FA 2004 2005
Player Name Status Team Status
----------- ------ ---- ------
Morten Andersen (UFA) MIN

Gary Anderson (UFA) TEN

Steve Christie (UFA) NYG

Jay Feely (UFA) ATL

Joe Nedney (CUT) (UFA) TEN

Todd Peterson (UFA) SF

Jeff Reed (UFA) PIT

Wade Richey (UFA) BAL

Adam Vinatieri (FFA) NE


Billy Cundiff (RFA) DAL

http://www.ffmastermind.com/freeagent.php


Mike Nugent is the finest kicker to enter the Draft in a long, long time. We'd be crazy not to try to get him, given our current kicking situation.

And if he fails to come through for us, I seriously doubt anyone will be longing to go back to the good old Lindell days. The worst anyone could say is that we should have gone for some other player at some other position, who may or may not have worked out at all.

imho.

[billsrdue2002]

I am a member of the BBI Buffalo Range Hard Core/War Room Nuge Cult.

Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

[CanuckBillfan]

"5. Ohio State's Mike Nugent is the best kicker in the draft, but he may have hurt himself by failing to drive a single kickoff into the end zone. That doesn't mean he won't be a high draft choice. He will, with one special teams coach predicting he goes in the third round -- largely because he's accurate and because six of his 11 kickoffs had hang times of four seconds or more. "Anytime you have a kicker who's 5-feet and the captain of Ohio State University's team there's something special about him," said Detroit special teams coordinator Chuck Priefer, who compared Nugent's leg speed to Jason Hanson, David Akers and Mike Vanderjagt. That's not bad."

He's a great kicker, but he will still have to adjust to the NFL. As I have said before. It's a different ball, different game. He will make some rookie mistakes. The important thing is for the team that gets him to stick with him.

[billsrdue2002]

Count me in as a member of :worship: "the Cult of Nuge" as well as :worship: "the Cult of Matt Jones."

Keep drinking the Kool Aid. :worship:

[Mouldsie]

That kool aid tastes great!

[Karl]

The thing I like most about Nugent is that he actually worked out with his team and contributed instead of showing up to practice and kick the ball around for an hour.

[CanuckBillfan]

The thing I like most about Nugent is that he actually worked out with his team and contributed instead of showing up to practice and kick the ball around for an hour.


He's not the only kicker to do that.

And no one is commenting on the evaluation I pasted. I kept hearing all the NFL isn't any different hype, and I just showed it is. Some crow is served and no one wants any. Go figure.

[Mainejays]

Although if Baas is on the board when we pick, I'd have a hard time passing on him, I think "Nuge" is the right choice. Hopefully we can get a second for Henry and be able to get both Baas and Nugent.

[Karl]

He's not the only kicker to do that.

And no one is commenting on the evaluation I pasted. I kept hearing all the NFL isn't any different hype, and I just showed it is. Some crow is served and no one wants any. Go figure.
I know, I just like that he dose that.

What crow? Maybe if we were talking about a QB adjusting to the NFL, but we are talking about a kicker. There is not that much difference.

[Mainejays]

Anyone who questions the sanity of drafting a "franchise" kicker should ask themselves what would the outcome of SB XXV had been if we had had one. Imagine if we had had Steve Christie in that SB, or Vinateri. Now imagine Lindell kicking for the Pats in their three SB wins instead of Big V. Do you think he would have hit those two game winners? We need the Nuge.

[CanuckBillfan]

I know, I just like that he dose that.

What crow? Maybe if we were talking about a QB adjusting to the NFL, but we are talking about a kicker. There is not that much difference.

There IS a difference. Sheesh. I give up with you people. His combine evaluation is only a small part of that proof.

Couch kickers... :televisio