anyone catch what Randy Moss did?

[24Impala]

i didn't see it but on some other boards people say he was pretending to moon the crowd, im just wondering if its as bad as the announcers seemed to act like

[Karl]

After he caught the TD he went over to the goal post and pretended to moon the crowd. Was it the wrong thing to do, yes but they will hammer Randy all week for it. But If TO did it would have been harmless fun. Hypocrisy at it's best.

[phishhead220]

i saw it, pretended to moon the crowd

i dislike joe buck. perhaps being a sox fan and witnessing his horrible commentary thorughout the playoffs that i felt was biassed and bad anyway

buck overreacted. a classless act would've been moss actually taking off his pants and actually mooning hte crowd.

moss's was obsecne but eh i could care less i'm sure he'll get fined.

[Karl]

i saw it, pretended to moon the crowd

i dislike joe buck. perhaps being a sox fan and witnessing his horrible commentary thorughout the playoffs that i felt was biassed and bad anyway

buck overreacted. a classless act would've been moss actually taking off his pants and actually mooning hte crowd.

moss's was obsecne but eh i could care less i'm sure he'll get fined.
Buck was about ready to have a heart attack.

[Billsman]

It wasn't as bad as the announcers said it was. Should he have done it? No, But what do expect from Moss?

[Billsman]

Dude needs a hair cut!

[Karl]

But what they don't show is when Moss gets a touchdown at home he gives balls to kids in wheel chairs and other stuff like that.

[TheCrystalBall]

Actually he didnt moon the crowd.

He was pretending to wipe his butt on the goalpost.

Thats why the announcer got mad, I think.

[Billsman]

The announcer said he mooned the crowd on live TV, I missed it when I turned away, damn it.

[MasterPAG]

I'd be pissed if I were a Packer fan, could you imagine a player coming into Ralph Wilson stadium and mooning us and then wiping his a$$ on our goalpost, thats disrespect.

[Karl]

I don't have a problem with it. He didn't go in the crowd and do anything to the fans. The fans talked crap to him all game and he replied. The announcers are blowing this way out of proportion.

[FknGvna]

I'd be pissed if I were a Packer fan, could you imagine a player coming into Ralph Wilson stadium and mooning us and then wiping his a$$ on our goalpost, thats disrespect.


We would keep 'em out of the endzone. Next year only the kickers will be dancing.

[Karl]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050110/i/r3406349935.jpg..

[wagoncircler]

After he caught the TD he went over to the goal post and pretended to moon the crowd. Was it the wrong thing to do, yes but they will hammer Randy all week for it. But If TO did it would have been harmless fun. Hypocrisy at it's best.

Hypocrisy my ass. They're both low-life punks with no class. I hope somebody takes out Moss' knees.

[wagoncircler]

Actually he didnt moon the crowd.

He was pretending to wipe his butt on the goalpost.

Thats why the announcer got mad, I think.

Your as blind as you are dim. He turned his ass to the crowd, bent over and "mimed" taking his pants down. Like Billsman, I had turned away, but I have tivo, so I rewound it and saw the whole thing. He's a good-for-nothing punk.

[Pedrorocks458]

I don't have a problem with it. He didn't go in the crowd and do anything to the fans. The fans talked crap to him all game and he replied. The announcers are blowing this way out of proportion.

He did stand by the bench, point to the scoreboard and yell "Check out the mother@*%^#$# score"

[ScottLaw]

Moss pretended to pull down his pants and acted like he mooned the crowd.

And, Buck overreacted big time.

[TheCrystalBall]

Wagoncirlcer you just dont like him because he's black and has an urban attitude.

I think you know where I am going because sadly, thats the truth of your whole being.


Report that

[shiva2999]

Totally classless!

Randy Moss :moon:---->:drool2: :drool2: :drool2: :drool2: Green Bay fans

[wagoncircler]

Wagoncirlcer you just dont like him because he's black and has an urban attitude.

I think you know where I am going because sadly, thats the truth of your whole being.


Report that


My favorite non-Bill is Ray Lewis. He's as black and urban as a man gets, but he's all about winning and dedicating himself to the game.

I don't like jackasses. That's why I think what I think of you and Moss. :stfu:

[TheCrystalBall]

Yea it was lewd....but totally acceptable.

We dont need comments from people who voted for Strom Thurmond.


OK...so why dont you go cast your vote for Strom again!

:jump:

[wagoncircler]

Yea it was lewd....but totally acceptable.

We dont need comments from people who voted for Strom Thurmond.


OK...why dont you go cast your vote for Strom again!
You're about as smart as a primate. Does your computer have trouble when it rains in your cage?

[TheCrystalBall]

Posted by Strom Thurmond

My favorite non-Bill is Ray Lewis. He's as black and urban as a man gets, but he's all about winning and dedicating himself to the game.


Ahhhhhhh the old "I have black friends so I can't be racist defense!"



HAHAHAHAHAHA

:chillin:

[wagoncircler]

Ahhhhhhh the old "I have black friends so I can't be racist defense!"



HAHAHAHAHAHA

:chillin:


Actually I have more black friends than you could possibly imagine, and none of them are classless punk-ass bitc hes like you.

[TheCrystalBall]

and I am supposed to swallow that???

Sorry but I can't believe someone who stood up and opposed Brown VS board of Education.


Report that

[wagoncircler]

and I am supposed to swallow that???

Sorry but I can't believe someone who stood up and opposed Brown VS board of Education.


Report that


I might have guessed that you were a swallower.

Good night Chimp. The Zoo's closed.

[TheCrystalBall]

Jealousy rears its ugly head again!!!!!!!!



REPORT THAT

[coastal]

I thought it was funny. Selfish and crude, but funny.

Those down home Wisconsin folk need a little controversy in their lives.

[BillsRGreat]

I'd be pissed if I were a Packer fan, could you imagine a player coming into Ralph Wilson stadium and mooning us and then wiping his a$$ on our goalpost, thats disrespect.


that would be messed up; kinda like someone walking into the Ralph, wait, the "Rich" and flipping the entire fan base off... :welcome:

[KBsFury]

:judge: where is the median between class and ability as they were talking about after the game. T.O. who is a wild lil something did the infamous ray lewis dance, and it was all in fun. moss? celebrations make the game fun, but someone should sew his butthole shut and keep feeding him.

[Karl]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050110/capt.wimg10601100122.vikings_packers_wimg106.jpg


http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050110/i/r1811883804.jpg

[TheAnswer74]

Is it Classy to call someone a classless punk?

I love all the hippocrates that post here.

Stop being so sensitive guys.

Another thing, SHould I go look up the huge Jake Plummer thread when he gave the finger to his own fans? Oh, I cant because there isnt one.

Think about that while you talk about who has more Black friends than the other guy.

[TheCrystalBall]

Good post Answer74

[wagoncircler]

You two deserve each other.

[Big Papi]

Is it Classy to call someone a classless punk?

I love all the hippocrates that post here.

Stop being so sensitive guys.

Another thing, SHould I go look up the huge Jake Plummer thread when he gave the finger to his own fans? Oh, I cant because there isnt one.

Think about that while you talk about who has more Black friends than the other guy.

:clapper:

[Karl]

Is it Classy to call someone a classless punk?

I love all the hippocrates that post here.

Stop being so sensitive guys.

Another thing, SHould I go look up the huge Jake Plummer thread when he gave the finger to his own fans? Oh, I cant because there isnt one.

Think about that while you talk about who has more Black friends than the other guy.
Good post.

[gilchristfan]

i saw it, pretended to moon the crowd

i dislike joe buck. perhaps being a sox fan and witnessing his horrible commentary thorughout the playoffs that i felt was biassed and bad anyway

buck overreacted. a classless act would've been moss actually taking off his pants and actually mooning hte crowd.

moss's was obsecne but eh i could care less i'm sure he'll get fined.
It wasn't just Joe Buck, it was afterwards that had me surprised about the reaction. In his postgame interview, he just said he was having a little fun during the game, it was just a touchdown celebration, and if there was heat to take, he'd take it.

Terry Bradshaw said the league should come down hard on him;
Howie Long said based on the mooning and the interview that you equate talent with class;

Even Jimmy Johson came down on him. Maybe they're just oversensitive this year because the NFC sucks so bad.

I've seen alot more offensive acts by professional football players.

[TheCrystalBall]

Well well Strom Thurmond, it seems most posters here agree with me and not you.

Report that


HAHAHHAHAA

[wagoncircler]

Is it Classy to call someone a classless punk?

I love all the hippocrates that post here.

Stop being so sensitive guys.

Another thing, SHould I go look up the huge Jake Plummer thread when he gave the finger to his own fans? Oh, I cant because there isnt one.

Think about that while you talk about who has more Black friends than the other guy.


Think about kissing my ass.

I also think Jake Plummer and Jeremy Shockey are punks.

I'm not the only one calling Moss a punk. Jason Whitlock is a very classy "urban" man:



http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/050106

Yes, Randy Moss is a coward and a punk and has the leadership skills of a five-year-old Girl Scout placed in charge of Navy Seals. Moss is not a winner. He contaminates and undermines everything with which he comes in contact. Dennis Green, the man who ignored Moss' rap sheet, looked like a genius for drafting the freakish wide receiver when he caught 17 touchdowns, averaged 19 yards per catch and ignited the Vikings to a 15-1 record in his rookie season.

[TheCrystalBall]

Posted by Strom Thurmond

I'm not the only one calling Moss a punk

Sorry but you called Moss a jackass and a punk.

So I guess that makes you a liar too.

Report that

[KBsFury]

true that. i thought about that when ya'll said he cussed at the crowd. good point.

[Big Papi]

Think about kissing my ass. I'm not the only one calling Moss a punk. Jason Whitlock is a very classy "urban" man:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/050106

Knock it off with all this urban bull. Grow up guys, and I'm talking to both sides here. Wagon, I would suggest that you leave this thread and forget about it. Every post you make your foot is getting further and further in your mouth. I don't know you but you're coming off as immature. Same goes for Hyper Chimp.

Mods, maybe this thread should be closed...

[wagoncircler]

I think you'd have to improve yourself ten-fold to rise to the level of jackass and punk, monkey-boy.

REPORT THAT....what a lame-ass saying.

[wagoncircler]

Knock it off with all this urban bull. Grow up guys, and I'm talking to both sides here. Wagon, I would suggest that you leave this thread and forget about it. Every post you make your foot is getting further and further in your mouth. I don't know you but you're coming off as immature. Same goes for Hyper Chimp.

Mods, maybe this thread should be closed...


I would suggest you wipe your face on the place where Moss wiped his backside. I need advice from a guy named Jay DIZZLE like I need a Godfather Part III marathon.

[Big Papi]

Why?

[TheCrystalBall]

You know what's lame....how obviously racist you are.

You'd be a happier man if you just finally admitted it to yourself.

[wagoncircler]

Piss off, monkey boy. Read the article, or have your momma read it to you. Punks are ruining the game. White punks, black punks, it doesn't matter what color. To call someone a punk is to reference their behavior, not the pigment in their skin.

[TheCrystalBall]

Posted by Racist man in denial

I need advice from a guy named Jay DIZZLE like I need a Godfather Part III marathon.

Hey Jay Dizzle....Its no coincidence he decided to focus on your name 'Jay dizzle', which is hip hop inspired.


He is a racist and I think it's obvious.



Sorry, racist man in denial (wagoncircler), but theres a hater in the house, and if you see him point it out.


That's you.

[wagoncircler]

I love Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Dexter Gordon, Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie and I hate, actually I DETEST hip-hop for the same reasons that Bill Cosby does. There was real progress being made in this country, and it was thrown into full reverse by the dumbing-down that is hip-hop culture, which glorifies pimps and sluts and "gangstas". Kids who used to look up to MLK now look up to Snoop Dogg. Great trade off. And the result is morons like you.

[Big Papi]

Just stop it. Really. You're digging a hole.

This has nothing to do with race.

[TheCrystalBall]

Ruining the game....HAHAHAHAHhahahahahahahAHHAHAHAH


Last I checked...NFL teams made money, the NFL gets amazing ratings, any team can win anytime, attendence set records and the TV money is ludicrous.

Ruining the game...sorry but the NFL is on top of the world right now.

Your just too full of hate to see it.

[wagoncircler]

Ruining the game....HAHAHAHAHhahahahahahahAHHAHAHAH


Last I checked...NFL teams made money, anyone can win anytime, attendence set records and the TV money is ludicrous.

Ruining the game...sorry but the NFL is on top of the world right now.

Your just too full of hate to see it.

That's because of the strict control that the NFL keeps on it's players and their conduct and their uniforms.

The NBA was just fine at one time, too. Now it's one step from financial ruin. Too many Allen Iversons, not enough Tim Duncans.

[wagoncircler]

Just stop it. Really. You're digging a hole.

This has nothing to do with race.

Oh? See this:

Wagoncirlcer you just dont like him because he's black and has an urban attitude.

I think you know where I am going because sadly, thats the truth of your whole being.


Report that

[Big Papi]

Yes, I saw it. And I stand by my statement. This has nothing to do with race, you guys took it there. And you shouldn't have.

[xyu]

I think you guys should just stop this now. Moss is a jerk now matter what colour he is.Just as ROMANOWSKI was, and T.O is. I dont think colour has very much to do with why a lot of people call him out for being classless.
If this was an isolated or his first offense we could all shrug it off.
He walked out on his teamates last week.
He tried to run over a female oficer.
I dont know how many times Ive heard that hes turned the corner and will be a leader on that team. its not gonna happen. Hes a very immature human being without a real grip on reality.

Almost the Tyson of football.

[TheAnswer74]

That's because of the strict control that the NFL keeps on it's players and their conduct and their uniforms.

The NBA was just fine at one time, too. Now it's one step from financial ruin. Too many Allen Iversons, not enough Tim Duncans.

Tim Duncan has a Beautiful White wife that has long Blonde hair.

Do you hate him now?

Another thing, I thought Kobe Bryant was a classy guy.

DOnt judge a guy by what they do inside the lines. Unless you know him personally, its unfair to judge him.

SOme people react to being in the public eye differently than others.

I believe there were Rumors that Moulds isnt that classy off the field. Like having many kids by many different women.

Should I mention Travis Henry?

[mjjk73]

billsman i dotn think u need to worry hyper chimp really shouldnt talk about being racist hes calling u racist but he supports maybe one or the biggest actors or racism in his avatar with the million dollar man so i would be more inclined that he is the racist one

[Karl]

Here is a question, If Moss was a Bill would you all defend him?

[xyu]

Here is a question, If Moss was a Bill would you all defend him?

No.

[Big Papi]

I wouldn't. What he did was wrong. Act like you've been there before, Randy.

[BledsoeBlows]

you're both gay

[shiva2999]

LOL!

He's young, he's black and he's rich beyond his wildest dreams.

Plus he hates whitey.

Stickin' it to "the man".

[TheCrystalBall]

I was talking about Wagoncircler.

[BledsoeBlows]

wagoncircler, give it up man, you're a racist. and to put on top of that, you're also an african american jew. You just can't come to grip with the fact that randy moss is a good reciever, and uh, that you suck

[Flutie4EVA]

you're both gay

what he said.

[Big Papi]

you're both gay

What the hell are you talking about? Are you questioning someones sexual preference? I'm pretty sure this is a football forum, not some frat house. Grow up and learn a new word.

[BledsoeBlows]

What the hell are you talking about? Are you questioning someones sexual preference? I'm pretty sure this is a Football Forum, not some frat house. Grow up and learn a new word.

knew it would be a matter of time before that would piss someone off

[Big Papi]

Heh, don't give yourself too much credit. I'm not pissed off. I don't take you seriously. Well, not too seriously.

[BledsoeBlows]

Heh, don't give yourself too much credit. I'm not pissed off. I don't take you seriously. Well, not too seriously.

oh, that one really hurt. i'm gonna go tell my mom :bigcry:

[Big Papi]

Okay.

[BanditsRock11]

He's a good-for-nothing punk.

Good for nothing? Get real.

[BDNS]

If Moss was a Bill, yeah I'd defend him. ****, I'd be dancing up and down if Moss was a Bill.

[admarc]

Is it really asking so much to have a sporting event on TV on a Sunday afternoon without some kind of moronic, classless act. I am so tired of trying to explain this garbage to my 5 year old who is just actually starting to take an interest and understanding of the game. I guess it at least offers me an opportunity to explain to him how not to act when competing, but it would be nice, once in a while if stars started demonstrating some good old fashioned sportsmanship.

Does this post now make me a gay racist ?

[BDNS]

I don't know, I thought what Moss did was funny. Crass, yeah, but still funny. People are making too big a deal out of this, IMO.

[wagoncircler]

Tim Duncan has a Beautiful White wife that has long Blonde hair.

Do you hate him now?

Another thing, I thought Kobe Bryant was a classy guy.

DOnt judge a guy by what they do inside the lines. Unless you know him personally, its unfair to judge him.

SOme people react to being in the public eye differently than others.

I believe there were Rumors that Moulds isnt that classy off the field. Like having many kids by many different women.

Should I mention Travis Henry?

Oh, I see Answer...who's being judgemental now? I could care less who Tim Duncan's married too. But, apparently the Chimp speaks, and you bend over and take it as Gospel.

I like Shaq, can't stand Kobe.

Reacting to what they do between the lines is all we really have to go on. You don't even know which point you're trying to make. What I'm saying is that Randy Moss is a punk because he walks off the field and gives up on his team, he makes a disgusting ass of himself to the fans, he takes plays off, and other documented instances of piss poor behavior too numerous to mention.

What he does in his personal life, I have no idea, but when he plays the game, he's a disgrace.

[TigerJ]

What I can't figure out is why that didn't get an"excessive celebration penalty. The only conclusion I can draw is that the officials weren't looking or couldn't interpret what they saw.

[wagoncircler]

Is it really asking so much to have a sporting event on TV on a Sunday afternoon without some kind of moronic, classless act. I am so tired of trying to explain this garbage to my 5 year old who is just actually starting to take an interest and understanding of the game. I guess it at least offers me an opportunity to explain to him how not to act when competing, but it would be nice, once in a while if stars started demonstrating some good old fashioned sportsmanship.

Does this post now make me a gay racist ?

Actually admarc, be prepared to be attacked as a gay-bashing racist.

[BanditsRock11]

Yea WAAAAY to big a deal. People really need to get over it. And if your seriously offended by this you need serious and help. And if all this bothers you what goes on in the NFL theres a easy solution....dont watch it, nobody forces you to!

[TheAnswer74]

Is it really asking so much to have a sporting event on TV on a Sunday afternoon without some kind of moronic, classless act. I am so tired of trying to explain this garbage to my 5 year old who is just actually starting to take an interest and understanding of the game. I guess it at least offers me an opportunity to explain to him how not to act when competing, but it would be nice, once in a while if stars started demonstrating some good old fashioned sportsmanship.

Does this post now make me a gay racist ?


Ever take your kid to a hockey game?

But really, what channel can you put on that doesnt have Our brave soldiers being killed, Sex, Violence, People eating Cow testicles, bad language, or classless athletes?

[admarc]

What I can't figure out is why that didn't get an"excessive celebration penalty. The only conclusion I can draw is that the officials weren't looking or couldn't interpret what they saw.

The refs are probably so used to being mooned, they just were glad it was aimed at someone else.

[wagoncircler]

wagoncircler, give it up man, you're a racist. and to put on top of that, you're also an african american jew. You just can't come to grip with the fact that randy moss is a good reciever, and uh, that you suck


Wow, you're a brilliant wordsmith. What's going to happen when your mommy tells you it's bedtime?

[BDNS]

Ever take your kid to a hockey game?

But really, what channel can you put on that doesnt have Our brave soldiers being killed, Sex, Violence, People eating Cow testicles, bad language, or classless athletes?


I agree completely.

Hell, I remember hearing the most vulgar stuff anybody can imagine back in grade school from my peers, and I'd imagine that many of you out there can say the same.

[wagoncircler]

Ever take your kid to a hockey game?

But really, what channel can you put on that doesnt have Our brave soldiers being killed, Sex, Violence, People eating Cow testicles, bad language, or classless athletes?


it's a damn shame that most of that's true, but that doesn't mean we have to join the politically correct pu ssies and not speak out against it.

[shiva2999]

A grand American tradition!

Take THAT world!

[admarc]

Ever take your kid to a hockey game?

But really, what channel can you put on that doesnt have Our brave soldiers being killed, Sex, Violence, People eating Cow testicles, bad language, or classless athletes?

Exactly the point, sports used to be a safe haven, but it's really getting to the point were that's not the case anymore and that is really sad for all kids. They'll have to deal with all that other stuff soon enough. I can't watch any more spongebob and expect to keep my sanity. Sports is something I really would love to share with my kids, and brawls, fights in the stands, cursing, flipping fans the bird, r rated promos and halftime shows and now mooning the crowd after scoring a game clinching TD. It's been a great year for family sports entertainment, can't wait for next year.

I really don't think any of this stuff is going to do damage to my kids, but it's the sneak attack aspect of these things that gets me.

[TheCrystalBall]

Posted by Wagoncircler

that doesn't mean we have to join the politically correct pu ssies and not speak out against it.


OH WAGONCIRCLER.

YOU are so revolutionary!


Speaking out against classless athletes...where can I donate money to you and your most worthy of causes?

Everyone give money to the whiteman is the victim fund. They really need your help!

[admarc]

A grand American tradition!

Take THAT world!

Shiva, how extensive is your archive of naked little boys ?

[TheAnswer74]

A grand American tradition!

Take THAT world!

You classless punk. :moon:
:bigsmile:

[wagoncircler]

OH WAGONCIRCLER.

YOU are so revolutionary!


Speaking out against classless athletes...where can I donate money to you and your most worthy of causes?

Everyone give money to the whiteman is the victim fund. They really need your help!

You really should spend the money on that Hooked on Phonics program. It might help with the reading comprehension that you so sorely lack.

As for your comments admarc, the problem is that idiots like Chimp actually would RATHER kids grew up to be like Randy Moss.

[BDNS]

I dunno, Randy Moss may be a bit of a douche, but I would take him over any player currently on the Bills roster.

[wagoncircler]

I dunno, Randy Moss may be a bit of a douche, but I would take him over any player currently on the Bills roster.

That speaks unfortunate volumes about you.

[BDNS]

That speaks unfortunate volumes about you.


Yes, I know. Why would I possibly want the most dominant player (when healthy) in the NFL on my favorite team? I must be retarded.

[Big Papi]

That speaks unfortunate volumes about you.

Why do you have to be like that. Randy is a hell of a ballplayer, sure he's a d-bag, but his skills are undisputable. His opinion was based off his skills. Why do you have to make this such a personal thing?

[wagoncircler]

Yes, I know. Why would I possibly want the most dominant player (when healthy) in the NFL on my favorite team? I must be retarded.

He's a quitter and a whiner and a crybaby, about whom even staunch punk-supporter Michael Irvin even said "Randy, you're not a great player, you're just a guy who makes great plays, and you'll never be a great player until you figure that out".

[TheAnswer74]

Exactly the point, sports used to be a safe haven, but it's really getting to the point were that's not the case anymore and that is really sad for all kids. They'll have to deal with all that other stuff soon enough. I can't watch any more spongebob and expect to keep my sanity. Sports is something I really would love to share with my kids, and brawls, fights in the stands, cursing, flipping fans the bird, r rated promos and halftime shows and now mooning the crowd after scoring a game clinching TD. It's been a great year for family sports entertainment, can't wait for next year.

I really don't think any of this stuff is going to do damage to my kids, but it's the sneak attack aspect of these things that gets me.

Its Called Money. Our world has sold out because of Greed, and the sad thing is that most of America eats that stuff you just said up.

Howard Stern, Springer, and all the other shows like it.

But hey, I cant sit here and say I dont watch fear factor when they have those hot models or a good Hockey fight.

Its our society, and I geuss Im part of that culture people that Wagon and some others seem not to like.

I guess Im the only one that likes watching Players celebrate during a game or the models on fear factor.

Ide rather my Kid be like Randy Moss than be on a Girls Gone Wild video.

Oh Yeah, I like those commercials they have on too.

But hey, Im young.

But, Im classless I geuss.

[admarc]

I dunno, Randy Moss may be a bit of a douche, but I would take him over any player currently on the Bills roster.

Again, that's the point. If some scrub, like lets say Travis Brown, did that, no one would care. When the stars of the game, which Moss clearly is, do it, it sends the message if your good, you can and should act like a jerk.

[shiva2999]

Shiva, how extensive is your archive of naked little boys ?

Straight from that den of anarchy, Google image search.

Here's another...

[wagoncircler]

Why do you have to be like that. Randy is a hell of a ballplayer, sure he's a d-bag, but his skills are undisputable. His opinion was based off his skills. Why do you have to make this such a personal thing?


Because he's a disgrace to the league, and because I go to my kid's Pop Warner games and see other kids emulating PUNKS like Randy Moss it makes me want to puke.

Randy Moss is a cancer and he will never be on a team that wins a championship because he cares only about Randy Moss.

[BDNS]

He's a quitter and a whiner and a crybaby, about whom even staunch punk-supporter Michael Irvin even said "Randy, you're not a great player, you're just a guy who makes great plays, and you'll never be a great player until you figure that out".


and so on and so forth, but you know something? NOBODY CAN COVER THE FREAKIN GUY! When he is on the field, he changes the whole game up.

[TheCrystalBall]

I have no problem with kids wanting to be like Randy Moss. In the end he's not a murderer, not a rapist and more importantly not a threat to the community or society. Your an idiot and a racist if you think he is. Spin it anyway you want, but thats the reality of the situation.

Your mad because you never in your life had Randy Moss talent.

All he did was fake moon 70,000 packer fans whose whole lives revolve around cornfields, cheese and lambeau field.


You need to fix your bitter life and realize football is just a game.

[BDNS]

Again, that's the point. If some scrub, like lets say Travis Brown, did that, no one would care. When the stars of the game, which Moss clearly is, do it, it sends the message if your good, you can and should act like a jerk.

I'm not going to argue whether Randy Moss is a cancer to the NFL or not, I'm simply saying that I would take him over any player on the Bills roster. He is the best at his position, period.

[admarc]

Its Called Money. Our world has sold out because of Greed, and the sad thing is that most of America eats that stuff you just said up.

Howard Stern, Springer, and all the other shows like it.

But hey, I cant sit here and say I dont watch fear factor when they have those hot models or a good Hockey fight.

Its our society, and I geuss Im part of that culture people that Wagon and some others seem not to like.

I guess Im the only one that likes watching Players celebrate during a game or the models on fear factor.

Listen, I am not saying get rid of hot models on fear factor, howard stern or Springer. If I want to watch those things, I know what I'm getting and I don't watch it with the kids. The major sports used to be one of the things besides cartoons and G movies you could safely watch with the kids. Now, I am not so sure it's safe anymore.

[BDNS]

And if Donahoe had a chance to trade any Bills player for Randy Moss, and he didn't, he'd be a damn fool.

[TheAnswer74]

I dunno, Randy Moss may be a bit of a douche, but I would take him over any player currently on the Bills roster.

Exactly. Because this is football, not the Race for President.

Oh Boy, Dont let me go there.

[wagoncircler]

and so on and so forth, but you know something? NOBODY CAN COVER THE FREAKIN GUY! When he is on the field, he changes the whole game up.

That's just fine, but he takes up so much cap space at WIDE FRICKIN RECEIVER that Minnesota will never be able to get any better. And he has an adverse effect on the team because of his attitude. He's just not a winner. If he was in a non-team sport it would be one thing, but one WR is not going to win you a SB.

[BDNS]

Listen, I am not saying get rid of hot models on fear factor, howard stern or Springer. If I want to watch those things, I know what I'm getting and I don't watch it with the kids. The major sports used to be one of the things besides cartoons and G movies you could safely watch with the kids. Now, I am not so sure it's safe anymore.

I understand where you're coming from, but does a fake mooning really constitute all this alarm?

[TheAnswer74]

Listen, I am not saying get rid of hot models on fear factor, howard stern or Springer. If I want to watch those things, I know what I'm getting and I don't watch it with the kids. The major sports used to be one of the things besides cartoons and G movies you could safely watch with the kids. Now, I am not so sure it's safe anymore.

Very True.

[TheCrystalBall]

admarc is "not so sure its safe anymore"...HAHAHAHAHAHA


Afraid your kids might emulate the black man on televison?

otherwise, what are you afraid of?

[admarc]

Straight from that den of anarchy, Google image search.

Here's another...

:thumbup: sure it is. :D

[TheAnswer74]

I understand where you're coming from, but does a fake mooning really constitute all this alarm?

No! And I blame Drew Bledsoe. If He didnt choke against the Steelers we would be talking Bills playoffs right now.



:nana:

I just Had to.

[Big Papi]

Because he's a disgrace to the league, and because I go to my kid's Pop Warner games and see other kids emulating PUNKS like Randy Moss it makes me want to puke.

Randy Moss is a cancer and he will never be on a team that wins a championship because he cares only about Randy Moss.

I totally understand your point, but why do you have to take out your anger on other posters, just because they think the guy is a good ball player?

[gilchristfan]

Listen, I am not saying get rid of hot models on fear factor, howard stern or Springer. If I want to watch those things, I know what I'm getting and I don't watch it with the kids. The major sports used to be one of the things besides cartoons and G movies you could safely watch with the kids. Now, I am not so sure it's safe anymore.
So if you're kid says, "what did he do Daddy?" you say, "pretended to show his butt" They'll giggle for 10 seconds, like every other 5 year old. You tell them, "it was rude" You move on.

I have alot harder time explaining the evening news to my kids than an end zone celebration.

[BDNS]

No! And I blame Drew Bledsoe. If He didnt choke against the Steelers we would be talking Bills playoffs right now.



:nana:

I just Had to.

Exactly! Moss pretending to show his ass isn't what kept us out of the playoffs. Bledsoe pretending to be a quarterback is what kept us out of the playoffs.


Hah, this thread didn't even need Spiked for it to turn all Bledsoe on everyone.

[TheAnswer74]

admarc is "not so sure its safe anymore"...HAHAHAHAHAHA


Afraid your kids might emulate the black man on televison?

otherwise, what are you afraid of?

Nah, he isnt Joel Giambra.

[admarc]

I understand where you're coming from, but does a fake mooning really constitute all this alarm?

No, in and of itself. However, as part of a never ending spiral of lowering standards of acceptable behavior, its one more step on down the ladder. Again, I explained it adequately to my kid, but what happens next week when I am not in the room when he's watching and some other player tries to one up Moss. If we can't speak out against things we feel are innapropriate in a forum like this, where can you ?

[wagoncircler]

admarc is "not so sure its safe anymore"...HAHAHAHAHAHA


Afraid your kids might emulate the black man on televison?

otherwise, what are you afraid of?

Not if that black man is James Brown (of Fox Sports) or ESPN's Tom Jackson or Harold Reynolds or Mike Wilbon or Greg Gumbel or any of scores and scores of black men on TV. Just not punks like Moss, Keyshan or TO or for that matter, Jeremy Shockey or Bill Romanowski.


See, since you're a punk, chimp, you just can't see that punkhood isn't about color. It's about stupidity, which comes in all colors shapes and sizes.

[Karl]

So if you're kid says, "what did he do Daddy?" you say, "pretended to show his butt" They'll giggle for 10 seconds, like every other 5 year old. You tell them, "it was rude" You move on.

I have alot harder time explaining the evening news to my kids than an end zone celebration.
:clapper:

[admarc]

So if you're kid says, "what did he do Daddy?" you say, "pretended to show his butt" They'll giggle for 10 seconds, like every other 5 year old. You tell them, "it was rude" You move on.

I have alot harder time explaining the evening news to my kids than an end zone celebration.

Actually what I did when he asked why he did that, is tell him that he is a poor sport. I asked him what he should do when he wins a game and he said, "shake hands and say good game." More than a few "pro's" can learn a thing or two from a 5 year old.

[Karl]

That's just fine, but he takes up so much cap space at WIDE FRICKIN RECEIVER that Minnesota will never be able to get any better. And he has an adverse effect on the team because of his attitude. He's just not a winner. If he was in a non-team sport it would be one thing, but one WR is not going to win you a SB.
Actualy I think the Vikings have one of the largest cap space in the leauge.

[shiva2999]

Not if that black man is James Brown (of Fox Sports) or ESPN's Tom Jackson or Harold Reynolds or Mike Wilbon or Greg Gumbel or any of scores and scores of black men on TV. Just not punks like Moss, Keyshan or TO or for that matter, Jeremy Shockey or Bill Romanowski.


See, since you're a punk, chimp, you just can't see that punkhood isn't about color. It's about stupidity, which comes in all colors shapes and sizes.

Is Armstrong Williams a punk for taking $240,000 under the table from the Whitehouse to pimp No Child Left Behind?

[Karl]

I would love to have Moss on the Bills.

[wagoncircler]

I totally understand your point, but why do you have to take out your anger on other posters, just because they think the guy is a good ball player?

Read what Chimp posted above, or continue to ignore it, but don't try do drag me into pretending it's not there. I'll bash a useless waste of space like Chimp when he calls me a racist every time. I said Moss was a punk, not a black punk, just a punk. You seem like a reasonable person, but I take that charge VERY seriously, and I believe it's a sword that cuts two ways. To not saying anything in reply to a charge like that is basically to agree with it.

People who maliciously charge racism where none exists are sick and should be challenged. Their noise dilutes cases of actual racism, and that's sad and dangerous.

[shiva2999]

However, as part of a never ending spiral of lowering standards of acceptable behavior, its one more step on down the ladder.

When was the highpoint of human behaviour?

From what date can we say the slippery slope starts from?

[TheAnswer74]

My superbowl pick is looking strong today. Minn vs. Indy.

I should have put money down on Minn.


Now this is Classless.:lowblow:

[TheAnswer74]

I would love to have Moss on the Bills.

Now your talking.


Hey Karl, Since when is Spiderman a Fag?

[wagoncircler]

When was the highpoint of human behaviour?

From what date can we say the slippery slope starts from?

What day were you born?

[admarc]

When was the highpoint of human behaviour?

From what date can we say the slippery slope starts from?

What's your birth date ? :poke:

[admarc]

What day were you born?

:rofl: Beat me to it

[Karl]

Now your talking.


Hey Karl, Since when is Spiderman a Fag?
http://custurd.b3ta.com/spidermanwillmakeyougay/

[shiva2999]

What's your birth date ? :poke:

Seriously?

Geez, I didn't realize I was THAT good!

[wagoncircler]

:rofl: Beat me to it


Keep fighting the good fight admarc. I've got an early start tomorrow. :thumbup:

[gilchristfan]

Actually what I did when he asked why he did that, is tell him that he is a poor sport. I asked him what he should do when he wins a game and he said, "shake hands and say good game." More than a few "pro's" can learn a thing or two from a 5 year old.
I can understand the good sport - bad sport angle, I really can. But that applies to nearly every end zone celebration, every time 2 players get in each other's face, and definitely every cheap shot.

I'm just amazed that this end zone deal is singled out, especially by the Fox sports gang.

[admarc]

When was the highpoint of human behaviour?

From what date can we say the slippery slope starts from?

Shiva, honestly, I don't think we are in decline, but I think we all still need to fight for what we believe most in to keep it from sliding. Even if we what we all believe in are as diverse as the beliefs of you and I, I believe I benefit as much from your success as you will from mine. Most people agree on what it is that we want. We just disagree on the path to achieve it.

[Karl]

I actually think he planned this to take the attention of the Vikings choking and on himself. That is all you heard this week.

[BDNS]

Seeing as how Bledsoe is such a classy guy, let's see if the Vikings would trade Moss for Bledsoe straight up.


hah...the Vikings' GM would be fired the next day.

[shiva2999]

Shiva, honestly, I don't think we are in decline, but I think we all still need to fight for what we believe most in to keep it from sliding. Even if we what we all believe in are as diverse as the beliefs of you and I, I believe I benefit as much from your success as you will from mine. Most people agree on what it is that we want. We just disagree on the path to achieve it.

I agree.

The point I was trying to make is hyperbole and dire warnings of slippery slopes aren't really ethical ways to make an argument.

[TheAnswer74]

http://custurd.b3ta.com/spidermanwillmakeyougay/

LoL

I never liked Spiderman anyway.

[Mouldsie]

Anyone see the Channel 2 News guys.

I thought he was stupid for doing that but they blew it way out of proportion.

Ed Kilgore "That was the worst and most disgusting thing I have ever witnessed in a sporting event" and "The NFL should fine him immensely and come down on him HARD!" with an angry tone

Gee Ed, even worse than the Pistons-Pacers brawl?

I also thought it was funny when Stu "Gay 70's porn Stache" Boyer was talking about his sick "sexual gyrations"
sexual gyrations? lol -that's all i got





and after reading the 4 pages I would like to add that giving people the bird (Jake Plummer, Bryan Cox, Jeremy Shockey) is much worse than this IMO.

also Moss is not a guy you want on your team if your goal is winning a championship.

BanditsRock11 had perhaps the best post

and the whole "how do I explain this tragedy to my children" post was weak.

[Mouldsie]

and Thank You Moss, for improving the Range's traffic. haha

[Karl]

I think the Vikings have a great shot of geting to the Super Bowl this year, but winning is a different story.

[BDNS]

I've never liked Ed Kilgore.

[Karl]

Some people think Moss should be suspended for this. That is flat out ridicules.

[mighty peace warrior]

this whole thread is stupid, but i guess its better than nothing.

sportsmanship is not akin to racism, that is perhaps the most asinine thing i have heard all day. It is not even close to a valid argument. What people are saying is if you don't like what i like you are a racist...lame judgemental posting but what do you expect from a child? It is not racist to want people to act like they have some class. At the same time pretending to moon a road crowd is not even worth discussing when it comes to crappy behavior on the field.

some people on here seem to think the way to win an argument is to resort to name calling, ohhh you disagree you are a racist or you play with the qbs private parts. the quality of posts seems to drop daily.

[Karl]

Stupid yet entertaining in a weird sort of way.

[Karl]

Would this even be such a big deal if it was someone other than Moss or Owens? I find what Plummer did flipping of the home fans worse than a fake. :moon:

[PUCKER]

Hey Moss...if youre going to moon people,learn to do it the correct way...:moon:

[TheCrystalBall]

Posted by Mouldsrocks

and Thank You Moss, for improving the Range's traffic. haha

You should thank me, it was my comments that got all the debate off the ground.

Face the facts kid.

[RedwardsSpellsByePat]

i saw it, pretended to moon the crowd

i dislike joe buck. perhaps being a sox fan and witnessing his horrible commentary thorughout the playoffs that i felt was biassed and bad anyway

buck overreacted. a classless act would've been moss actually taking off his pants and actually mooning hte crowd.

moss's was obsecne but eh i could care less i'm sure he'll get fined.


Yeah Buck acted like an idiot more than Moss did, I can't stand Joe Buck what makes him qualified to be a commentator. Being the son of a commentator?

Buck still is not as bad as the announcer for CBS during the Bills/Steelers game that called Lindell the "picture of consistency" before his 28 yrd. miss. Had this guy ever watched the Bills?

[mighty peace warrior]

You should thank me, it was my comments that got all the debate off the ground.

Face the facts kid.
there is no debate, you said something stupid and people got sucked in.

and calling someone else a kid?

[TheCrystalBall]

But in the end, the range traffic went up didn't it MPW?

It's all about hits thank you very much.

Chimp has left the building.

[shiva2999]

...the quality of posts seems to drop daily.

I want to personally apologize for myself and the rest of the BBI membership.

Sorry we've been disappointing you lately.

[Denverbillsfan]

Funny but uncalled for. Tice should rip him a new one. You think he would have learned from last week.

[rob on the job]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think what Moss did was beyong a simple mooning.

It looked to me like he simulated wiping his butthole on the Packers goalpost. If true, that is immensely more vulgar than a mooning.

I guess the best way to judge the class of Randy Moss is to remember how Thurman Thomas used to behave when scoring a touchdown. He gave the ball to the referee, took hugs from his teammates, and ran back to the sidelines.

Thurman Thomas or Randy Moss? Who would you want your kid to emulate?

[TRIPLE P]

My only question is Why is Randy Moss required to go by others standards of class and sportmanship?

In all honesty I think what he did is dumb. There are better celebrations, TKO celebrates but its fun. Nate Clements celebrates and its fun.

I'm sure many Viking fans thought it was hilarious.

Just because you or I don't like it dosen't really matter to Moss, or in the grand scheme of things dosen't really matter at all.

[HURLS]

I guess the best way to judge the class of Randy Moss is to remember how Thurman Thomas used to behave when scoring a touchdown. He gave the ball to the referee, took hugs from his teammates, and ran back to the sidelines.

Thurman Thomas or Randy Moss? Who would you want your kid to emulate?

If you're talking strictly on-the-field, I agree. But Thurman is far from the perfect role model in football.

[mighty peace warrior]

My only question is Why is Randy Moss required to go by others standards of class and sportmanship?

In all honesty I think what he did is dumb. There are better celebrations, TKO celebrates but its fun. Nate Clements celebrates and its fun.

I'm sure many Viking fans thought it was hilarious.

Just because you or I don't like it dosen't really matter to Moss, or in the grand scheme of things dosen't really matter at all.
nothing anyone discuss here really matters in the grand scheme of things

sportsmanship and class are concepts that has been around a long time, its not someone elses idea...its too bad many younger people such as Randy, and apparently you were not taught it.

[mighty peace warrior]

Is it Classy to call someone a classless punk?

I love all the hippocrates that post here.

Stop being so sensitive guys.

Another thing, SHould I go look up the huge Jake Plummer thread when he gave the finger to his own fans? Oh, I cant because there isnt one.

Think about that while you talk about who has more Black friends than the other guy.
apparently this cut you deep since you keep bringing it up, where is the thread you started about it? just because someone doesnt like something doesnt mean they are going to start a thread. This argument might have been valid had you started a thread and everyone defended Plummer. Because there was no thread it must not have bothered anyone right.

I mean there is no difference between a solo act of frustration and a career filled with temper tantrums and self promotion? oh wait the difference is the color of their skin :shakehead

[mighty peace warrior]

I want to personally apologize for myself and the rest of the BBI membership.

Sorry we've been disappointing you lately.
Are you going to tell me you havent noticed the dumbing down that has occured?

[HURLS]

My only question is Why is Randy Moss required to go by others standards of class and sportmanship?

In all honesty I think what he did is dumb. There are better celebrations, TKO celebrates but its fun. Nate Clements celebrates and its fun.

I'm sure many Viking fans thought it was hilarious.

Just because you or I don't like it dosen't really matter to Moss, or in the grand scheme of things dosen't really matter at all.

Do Not compare Nate to TO. What TO does is celebrate excellent plays in outlandish fashion. What Nate does is ridiculous, and requires nothing more than him making a simple tackle, or blowing his nose and getting "it all out". Clements is a joke.

[mighty peace warrior]

I would love to have Moss on the Bills.
so would i

[mighty peace warrior]

In all honesty I think what he did is dumb. There are better celebrations, TKO celebrates but its fun. Nate Clements celebrates and its fun.
.
nate and Tko arent doing things to try to make fun of or show up the other team

[TRIPLE P]

nothing anyone discuss here really matters in the grand scheme of things

sportsmanship and class are concepts that has been around a long time, its not someone elses idea...its too bad many younger people such as Randy, and apparently you were not taught it.


Apparently me?

Apparently you never learned to not open your mouth about something you don't know about. I've never celebrated a TD or goal like that in my life.

Doing a dance or something to that effect after a TD, goal or whatever is fun and part of the emotion of the game. As long as it dosen't degrade the opponent who cares. It gets the fans fired up, gets the team fired up. When Spikes does his karate kick thing who does it hurt?

And I clearly stated that I thought what Moss did was dumb, but its hardly as bad as beating your wife, not paying child support, or getting a DUI. I think the backlash is blown out of proportion, he looked like an ass, he is percieved like an ass. Whats making it even worse is to continue talking about it.

[TRIPLE P]

Do Not compare Nate to TO. What TO does is celebrate excellent plays in outlandish fashion. What Nate does is ridiculous, and requires nothing more than him making a simple tackle, or blowing his nose and getting "it all out". Clements is a joke.


When? He celebrates when he makes an INT or a fumble recovery.

[HURLS]

I've never liked Ed Kilgore.

Me neither, back when he was on Channel 2 doing Sabre games with Ted Darling.

[HURLS]

When? He celebrates when he makes an INT or a fumble recovery.


He celebrates more than times than shots downed at The Pinto before the game.

[mighty peace warrior]

Apparently me?

Apparently you never learned to not open your mouth about something you don't know about. I've never celebrated a TD or goal like that in my life.

Doing a dance or something to that effect after a TD, goal or whatever is fun and part of the emotion of the game. As long as it dosen't degrade the opponent who cares. It gets the fans fired up, gets the team fired up. When Spikes does his karate kick thing who does it hurt?

And I clearly stated that I thought what Moss did was dumb, but its hardly as bad as beating your wife, not paying child support, or getting a DUI. I think the backlash is blown out of proportion, he looked like an ass, he is percieved like an ass. Whats making it even worse is to continue talking about it.

i can only judge you by the things you post, you seem to think sportsmanship and class are dirty words. Mooning a road crowd standing on a star, things like that are done specificaly to "degrade the opponent". I will say whatever the hell i want, just like you or anyone else.

Doing a prerehearsed dance to show up the team is not part of the emotion of the game, you dont have to be an ass to be emotional.

Who is comparing this to a DUII or beating a child? Only you and the others defending this stuff. Get a clue, people can not like things that aren't crimes. I don't like seeing people pick thier nose, is that a crime? am i allowed to not like it...please give me permission.

Randy Moss, TO and the rest of these goofballs are on television, kids look up to them it wouldnt kill them to act like they have some class.

[mighty peace warrior]

At the same time pretending to moon a road crowd is not even worth discussing when it comes to crappy behavior on the field.
.
APPARENTLY some posters should also learn to read the person they are going to argue withs posts more clearly before going off half cocked

[shiva2999]

Are you going to tell me you havent noticed the dumbing down that has occured?

Not really.

Smart people come and go, idiots are always around.

Just remember, if you consider yourself above average in intelligence and class, that means by definition the majority of the world will be a disappointment to you.

[HURLS]

At least one writer liked it:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/quickie


This guy usually has some funny stuff.

[TRIPLE P]

i can only judge you by the things you post, you seem to think sportsmanship and class are dirty words. Mooning a road crowd standing on a star, things like that are done specificaly to "degrade the opponent". I will say whatever the hell i want, just like you or anyone else.

Doing a prerehearsed dance to show up the team is not part of the emotion of the game, you dont have to be an ass to be emotional.

Who is comparing this to a DUII or beating a child? Only you and the others defending this stuff. Get a clue, people can not like things that aren't crimes. I don't like seeing people pick thier nose, is that a crime? am i allowed to not like it...please give me permission.

Randy Moss, TO and the rest of these goofballs are on television, kids look up to them it wouldnt kill them to act like they have some class.

I have said before that TO is an ass. i think Randy is an ass. I'm not defending it, but celebrating is not the worst thing ever.

And I never said you can't not like things, but just because someone does something you don't like dosen't automatically make it wrong.

And while kids may look up to them that is a choice the kids, and by default thier parents make. It is not TO, Randy or anyone elses responsibility to be a role model. They do a job, just because people like us choose to follow every move dosen't make them accountable to us.

[mighty peace warrior]

I have said before that TO is an ass. i think Randy is an ass. I'm not defending it, but celebrating is not the worst thing ever.

And I never said you can't not like things, but just because someone does something you don't like dosen't automatically make it wrong.

And while kids may look up to them that is a choice the kids, and by default thier parents make. It is not TO, Randy or anyone elses responsibility to be a role model. They do a job, just because people like us choose to follow every move dosen't make them accountable to us.
poor sportsmanship is wrong, showing up your opponent is wrong. you might not agree i don't care

please show me one post on this thread or anyother that implies celebrating is the "worst thing ever" the only people who compare it to murder, duii etc.. are people making excuses for boorish behavior

wether they agree or not, they are role models. and so are you and every other adult. if you act like a jackass expect to get called on it. that is all that is happening here.

[HURLS]

I like what Dan Patrick said on his show. Joe Buck is embarrassed that Fox's cameras caught what Moss did. This coming from the network running the show, "Who's your Daddy." Gimme a break. That show is more offensive.

[mighty peace warrior]

I like what Dan Patrick said on his show. Joe Buck is embarrassed that Fox's cameras caught what Moss did. This coming from the network running the show, "Who's your Daddy." Gimme a break. That show is more offensive.
i agree there is a lot of crap on TV, too bad football is turning into the same type of entertainment.

lowest commen denominater TV

[rob on the job]

... lowest commen denominater TV

Yes sir. When did the most important thing in life be to get in the face of the other person, to gain dominance, to humiliate and to belittle and to cause a loss of face?

Why have grace and class fallen out of fashion?

Manners and thoughtfulness make for a better world.

[TRIPLE P]

poor sportsmanship is wrong, showing up your opponent is wrong. you might not agree i don't care

please show me one post on this thread or anyother that implies celebrating is the "worst thing ever" the only people who compare it to murder, duii etc.. are people making excuses for boorish behavior

wether they agree or not, they are role models. and so are you and every other adult. if you act like a jackass expect to get called on it. that is all that is happening here.


I can't talk about this anymore because I guess thats my point, it should be a non-issue. I agree with what you say for the most part except for the everyone being role models, but whatever.

I guess I just don't know why its up to other people to "call" people on things when they are just dumb. Randy is stupid an thinks its cool to do that stuff, let him.

[mighty peace warrior]

let me ask you this then, should i as a police officer be a role model to kids?

[rob on the job]

let me ask you this then, should i as a police officer be a role model to kids?

Yes. And so should every other adult out there (regardless of Charles Barkley's disavowal of his responsibilities).

[bduff54]

What is the big deal with what Randy moss did yesterday? People are saying he should be suspended for fake mooning the fans. Those fans abuse the guy verbally all game, he gets a TD and fakes moons them and it turns into the crime of the century? I don't get, if favre did it the commentators would say "look at favre, he just loves to be out there playing this game".

[mighty peace warrior]

don't we already have a huge thread about this?

[HURLS]

http://www.buffalorange.com/showthread.php?t=62980

[bduff54]

my bad, i gotta run, can someone merge it for me please. thanks guys!

[shiva2999]

All the interesting threads get booted from this forum.

Leaves more space for whining about the O line and the kicker.

[HURLS]

All the interesting threads get booted from this forum.

Leaves more space for whining about the O line and the kicker.

Hey, they had to give Spiked his own damn forum!

[TRIPLE P]

let me ask you this then, should i as a police officer be a role model to kids?


I think that you, as a police officer need to be a model citizen because its necessary in order for you to legitimatly enforce the law.

Being a role model for kids is important. I do alot of work with kids through coaching and when I am coaching I act in a responsible way. There are other times when I would not be a good role model for kids like when I go out drinking and swaering and hitting on women.

While it would be nice if everyone was Peyton Manning or Dante Culpepper as far as on field things go it just isn't there responisibility, they don't owe anyone anything.

Mooning the crowd dosen't make Randy Moss less of a football player.

[shiva2999]

Yes sir. When did the most important thing in life be to get in the face of the other person, to gain dominance, to humiliate and to belittle and to cause a loss of face?

1980.

[shiva2999]

let me ask you this then, should i as a police officer be a role model to kids?

You work for the public.

Randy Moss is in the private sector.

[mighty peace warrior]

we all work for each other, i pay Randy Moss's salary as much as you pay mine.

[rob on the job]

... Randy Moss is in the private sector.

In how he is paid, only. What he does definitely qualifies him as a public figure, as the US Supreme Court has interpreted the term in a number of libel cases.

[rob on the job]

1980.

Yeah, most people would agree that the world came to an end when Jimmy Carter was steamrolled by Ronald Reagan. :news:

[mighty peace warrior]

i dont care who you work for, you are an adult then you are a role model. kids see everything

[TRIPLE P]

we all work for each other, i pay Randy Moss's salary as much as you pay mine.


Yeah but we HAVE to pay you.(Money well spent) We CHOOSE to pay Randy.

[mighty peace warrior]

spiked stuff wasn't interesting hence the forum

[mighty peace warrior]

so? what does that have to do with me being a role model? shouldnt i be able to act like a jackass off duty? you dont pay me for my free time?

what about you willis are you a role model?

[HURLS]

LOL, I meant that the forum was for all the whining!

[mighty peace warrior]

i will try merging these, but i seem to always get it backwards

[HURLS]

Does anyone remember John Randle from Minny? He used to lift a leg, pretending he was a dog peeing on the opponent. I never heard of anything come out of that. Tha'ts worse than a fake moon.

And I'll be the 1st to admit I'm not a role model.

[mighty peace warrior]

I think that you, as a police officer need to be a model citizen because its necessary in order for you to legitimatly enforce the law.

Being a role model for kids is important. I do alot of work with kids through coaching and when I am coaching I act in a responsible way. There are other times when I would not be a good role model for kids like when I go out drinking and swaering and hitting on women.

While it would be nice if everyone was Peyton Manning or Dante Culpepper as far as on field things go it just isn't there responisibility, they don't owe anyone anything.

Mooning the crowd dosen't make Randy Moss less of a football player.


i didnt see this before, sorry. why do i have to be a model citizen as long as i dont break the law whats the problem? why can't i be a jerk to all my neighbors and act boorish?

no mooning doesnt make him less of a football player, just less of a quality person.

They don't owe anyone anything that i agree with, i would just prefer if they had some class

[rob on the job]

... Tha'ts worse than a fake moon.

I think Moss was wiping his butt on the goalpost.

That's just as bad as peeing on opponents, etc. Maybe it's worse.

[HURLS]

i will try merging these, but i seem to always get it backwards


You just have to make sure bduff's gets linked to here. Make sure to check it before you finalize it.

[mighty peace warrior]

when you are out drinking and cursing and drooling over women you arent around kids. adult behavior is fine around other adults. you are a role model whenever you are around kids and so is Randy Moss its part of being a grown up

[HURLS]

I think Moss was wiping his butt on the goalpost.

That's just as bad as peeing on opponents, etc. Maybe it's worse.

Depends on if the butt was dried, I'd take a dry butt-wipe over a hot pee-down.

[TRIPLE P]

so? what does that have to do with me being a role model? shouldnt i be able to act like a jackass off duty? you dont pay me for my free time?

what about you willis are you a role model?


From your attitude about this whole situation you obviously have never done anything wrong. You've never said a curse word in front of a kid. You've never flipped someone off while driving. You never did anything dumb with your army buddies back in the day. You've never had to much to drink and made an ass of yourself

If you can't honestly say yes to all those than judge away, but otherwise lay off.


And didn't I already say I coach kids and have for 4 years. I make myself a hypocrite in the process because i tell them things that i don't necessarily agree with or do myself (i.e. smoking weed is bad, but drinking is legal, not that we promote drinking either) because its best for the kids at that age.

[rob on the job]

Depends on if the butt was dried, I'd take a dry butt-wipe over a hot pee-down.

Let's hope to God we never actually are faced with these choices some day, Hurls.

[TRIPLE P]

Depends on if the butt was dried, I'd take a dry butt-wipe over a hot pee-down.


I smell a Range poll ... :D

[mighty peace warrior]

From your attitude about this whole situation you obviously have never done anything wrong. You've never said a curse word in front of a kid. You've never flipped someone off while driving. You never did anything dumb with your army buddies back in the day. You've never had to much to drink and made an ass of yourself

If you can't honestly say yes to all those than judge away, but otherwise lay off.


And didn't I already say I coach kids and have for 4 years. I make myself a hypocrite in the process because i tell them things that i don't necessarily agree with or do myself (i.e. smoking weed is bad, but drinking is legal, not that we promote drinking either) because its best for the kids at that age.
I am not judging Randy Moss, i am judging his behavior. He might be a swell guy i have no idea but he is acting like a jackass

i have done plenty wrong, but i dont go out and act like an ass deliberatly in front of kids or anyone else. no one is saying people have to be perfect, what i am asking is am i the only one who should be responsible to act right infront of kids and show other people respect? if not why does Randy Moss get a free pass? Because he is rich? Because he is black? because he is an entertainer?

Is smoking weed bad for kids? how are you hypocritical to tell them it is, if it is?

[mighty peace warrior]

being a coach for kids isnt why you should be a role model, you are a coach because you choose to be a role model. if you dont teach kids sportsmanship(which by this thread is apparently not important to you) then you arent doing your job as a coach.

[HURLS]

I smell a Range poll ... :D

I could do that in Asylum, but posters who haven't seen this thread would be wondering if the proper authorities should be called about me.

[rob on the job]

I could do that in Asylum, but posters who haven't seen this thread would be wondering if the proper authorities should be called about me.

Go ahead and do it, Hurls. Or I'll wipe my ass all over your post.

[TRIPLE P]

I am not judging Randy Moss, i am judging his behavior. He might be a swell guy i have no idea but he is acting like a jackass

i have done plenty wrong, but i dont go out and act like an ass deliberatly in front of kids or anyone else. no one is saying people have to be perfect, what i am asking is am i the only one who should be responsible to act right infront of kids and show other people respect? if not why does Randy Moss get a free pass? Because he is rich? Because he is black? because he is an entertainer?

Is smoking weed bad for kids? how are you hypocritical to tell them it is, if it is?

I see your point, I guess I just don't care what Randy Moss does. it could be due to the fact that I haven't got kids.

The weed thing makes me a hypocrite cause I'm sure they assume I don't and that wouldn't be correct. (No, not around them or before practice or games)

[TRIPLE P]

being a coach for kids isnt why you should be a role model, you are a coach because you choose to be a role model. if you dont teach kids sportsmanship(which by this thread is apparently not important to you) then you arent doing your job as a coach.


My kids don't do stupid stuff after they score a goal. I don't know why they don't, I never had to tell them not to. If they did they wouldn't be playing in that game anymore but thats because I'm in charge and i don't personally like that stuff.

If Mike Tice had pulled Randy from the game afterword, or for any of the other countless actions he deserved to be displined for over the years thats would be a legitimate solution. But thats not going to happen.

[mighty peace warrior]

i know its not going to happen. what i don't understand is what your issue with people talking about this is. Randy Moss is a professional,and i use the term loosly, playing a kids game on tv. Kids are going to look up to him, and people are going to talk about it when he does something.

I think in the grand scheme of things what he did was minor in comparison to most of the showboating that goes on and even a little funny. If i saw my kid do it i would knock him out. I expect every adult to act like they have some class, i dont see anything wrong with that expectation.

[JerseyBills]

Has the word gotten out yet that the Packers fans surround and MOON THE OPPONENTS BUS after each victory.

[mighty peace warrior]

ok, they are idiots as well

[JerseyBills]

Well, let's have a big discussion about them showing poor judgement and taste, about them showing THEIR OWN KIDS how to be good sports, about being classless, etc.

[mighty peace warrior]

ok, read all of the above posts they apply to them as well. you are looking for something that isnt here. What they did makes them morons, just like Randy Moss

[mighty peace warrior]

arent you going to call me a racist? isnt that your normal post in these type of threads?

[JerseyBills]

I've never called anyone on this board a racist.
This is way overblown.There is wrong on both sides.I just wondered if people knew that the fans in GB did that.

[mighty peace warrior]

i never heard that before, no. it is overblown, but its an interesting topic for conversation

[HURLS]

I've never called anyone on this board a racist.
This is way overblown.There is wrong on both sides.I just wondered if people knew that the fans in GB did that.

Ya, heard that this morning, they're saying that's probably why he did it. To rub it in the fans' faces. He should have waited until the bus, then mooned out the window so they didn't know who it was.

[rob on the job]

This isn't a racial thing.

Stupid behavior on a public stage is an equal-opportunity employer.

It's just that Moss, TO, Romanowski, et al, do these things so often that you have to suspect that it's all a calculated act just to get more publicity. Which is sick.

[JerseyBills]

MPW, I'm not here to fight...why the comment?

[mighty peace warrior]

Ya, heard that this morning, they're saying that's probably why he did it. To rub it in the fans' faces. He should have waited until the bus, then mooned out the window so they didn't know who it was.
probably is where he got it, i have no reason to doubt it.

[TRIPLE P]

then mooned out the window so they didn't know who it was.


Of course they'd know. He'd be the one mooning but you couldn't see behind his thick tuft of ass hair.

[rob on the job]

Of course they'd know. He'd be the one mooning but you couldn't see behind his thick tuft of ass hair.

ROFLMAO!

[HURLS]

lmao

[mighty peace warrior]

MPW, I'm not here to fight...why the comment?
i apologize

[JerseyBills]

What is all the hub-bub about?Our fans are brutal, too.Remember Bryan Cox saying that the fans in Buffalo are a "different breed of people".What were we doing to him to make him salute us...knowing full well he would get a fine.Mooning buses, name calling, baiting. Rod Woodson said fans in some cities would talk **** him to no end about his being multi-racial.The problem is the players, the game and the fans-it's all of us.All of us would laugh if this was a seen from a movie.

[rob on the job]

Jersey is right.

Not only Bryan Cox, but Tim Green, in his book, said Buffalo had the most out-of-controlfans. And then a few weeks ago, some financial analyst with a syndicated radio show -- apparently a Bengals fan -- was talking about how Buffalo had the most obnoxious fans, bar none, in professional sports [based on Bengals games he'd attended in Buffalo].

But unlike Mss, Buffalo fans are smart enough to do their obnoxious acts discretely.

[ckg68]

Obviously,the guy never went to Philadelphia,did he?

Let's see....booing the hell out of Mike Schmidt(only one of the best 3rd basemen to ever play the game)and J.D. Drew among many others..chucking batteries toward former Pirates OF Dave Parker..cheering as former Dallas WR Michael Irvin lay on the Vet's field,not moving,among many other acts. Remember,the Vet was about the only place that had a courtroom in the stadium so as to expedite court cases relating to dumb ass behavior at Eagles games. And this dude thinks Buffalo fans are obnoxious?

[Mouldsie]

Go ahead and do it, Hurls. Or I'll wipe my ass all over your post.
If Hurls doesn't have the cajones, I'll do it.

[Mouldsie]

What is the big deal with what Randy moss did yesterday? People are saying he should be suspended for fake mooning the fans. Those fans abuse the guy verbally all game, he gets a TD and fakes moons them and it turns into the crime of the century? I don't get, if favre did it the commentators would say "look at favre, he just loves to be out there playing this game".
lol

[coastal]

If Moss was a Bill, yeah I'd defend him. ****, I'd be dancing up and down if Moss was a Bill.

rofl!

[HURLS]

If Hurls doesn't have the cajones, I'll do it.


Asking if I had the cajones? Haha, such fodder. You're talking to the idiot who called out the former Admin., and lost.

:rofl:

[honey]

I just could NOT read all those pages, but IMO, it wasn't that big of a deal. He didn't show his ass, just faked it. BFD. :rolleyes: And Philly will probably beat the heck out of them this weekend, so everything will be moot anyway.

My biggest problem with him was the week before when he left the field with 2 seconds left on the clock. THAT was classless.

[Reeves]

Hypocrisy my ass. They're both low-life punks with no class. I hope somebody takes out Moss' knees.
I did not see it , but I am sick of players acting like punks and drawing attention to themselves by acting like drug addicted criminals. Their actions have nothing to do with the game. For the millions he is making he can act like man and take abuse from the fans.Their are handicaps children at every game and he could have given one of those kids a football.That would have been newsworthy.If one of those punks does that on a Bills goal post I hope 73,000 Bills fans moon Moss.

[gr8slayer]

I thought it was funny as hell.

[The REAL Sabres]

Moss' comments on the fine: "$10,000, next time I might shake my dick!"

[Steve0022]

I dont care for celebrations like that but I think Moss was a little justified since Dungy said that the Packers fans moon the away teams bus all the time.