2004 BBI Mock Draft

[swami jr]

The San Diego Chargers are now on the clock...

the next five picks:

Raiders
Cardinals
Giants
Redskins
Lions


for rules on the draft, please consult the GM mock draft thread pgs 3-7

[BanditsRock11]

With the first pick in the 2004 NFL draft the San Diego chargers select........Eli Manning from Ole Miss.:applause:

[swami jr]

The Oakland Raiders are now on the clock...

the next five picks:
Cardinals
Giants
Redskins
Lions
Browns

[coastal]

San Diego has withdrawn their pick and substituted Ryan Leaf as their pick. So just, "Knock it off, alright?!"

[unklechucky]

Wow, at this rate I guess ill be picking after work tomorrow. That would be 3:30-4 eastern time Friday.

[unklechucky]

I figured we'd at least be close to my pick(20) by now.

[Wally]

:banghead: I know! Who is next!?!?! :steamin:

[BillsCAfan]

ok, this has officially gotten stupid. I don't care anymore.

[unklechucky]

Originally posted by BillsCAfan
ok, this has officially gotten stupid. I don't care anymore.

Nice attitude.

[gonzo1105]

Raiders fan....seriously if he isn't here tomorrow by like 10 someone should take his place

[BillsCAfan]

Originally posted by unklechucky
Nice attitude.

unklechucky a critic of attitude, now thats good.

You can wait around until April 25th to pick your first rounder pick. Since the Draft began 4 hours ago, we can't find the person who is supposed to pick 2nd.

btw, I like my attitude....and it is nice.

[gonzo1105]

Guys this is suppose to be for picks only........put your thoughts in the other thread

[BillsCAfan]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
Guys this is suppose to be for picks only........put your thoughts in the other thread

I would have no problem with that, except for the fact that there are no picks to go in this thread.

Mod is more than free to go ahead and delete my posts if it helps, I have no problem with that.

[Henry4MVP]

Okay, filling in for Raidersfan to get the ball rolling, Henry and the Raiders select:

Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa

[Henry4MVP]

The Cardinals are now on the (probably looooong) clock.

[swami jr]

Originally posted by Henry4MVP
Okay, filling in for Raidersfan to get the ball rolling, Henry and the Raiders select:

Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa

the raiders are still on the clock. before the draft, the 24 hour window wasn't changed, so for now the Raiders have 24 hours. I'm sorry if you lose interest. I warned that it'll take a number of days. I didn't think it would stall at the second pick either, but the draft is still on and it will continue.

You can post in here, that's fine, just no trade discussions (so it remains private). Official picks and trades will be made in bold.

[coastal]

Chirp, Chirp.............chirp......

[two4trippn]

So with me drafting 11th, I should get my pick PRIOR to the real draft, give or take a day.....

[Dr. Atomic]

Just a note. There was a trade today in the real world, and Cincy and Denver swapped 1st round positions.

[Henry4MVP]

Originally posted by swami jr
the raiders are still on the clock. before the draft, the 24 hour window wasn't changed, so for now the Raiders have 24 hours. I'm sorry if you lose interest. I warned that it'll take a number of days. I didn't think it would stall at the second pick either, but the draft is still on and it will continue.

You can post in here, that's fine, just no trade discussions (so it remains private). Official picks and trades will be made in bold.

Sorry, sorry, sorry. Just tryin' to help out. :D

[swami jr]

Originally posted by Henry4MVP
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Just tryin' to help out. :D

i understand :)

[swami jr]

Originally posted by Dr. Atomic
Just a note. There was a trade today in the real world, and Cincy and Denver swapped 1st round positions.

I guess there's some advantage to taking a long time. We'll adapt to that:

Bengals own pick #24
Bengals now have CB/KR Deltha O'Neal
Broncos own pick #17

[gonzo1105]

Uh huh well I was here earlier and Raiders fan was in here and didn't make his pick......so i think we should make the Raiders pick

[BillsCAfan]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
Uh huh well I was here earlier and Raiders fan was in here and didn't make his pick......so i think we should make the Raiders pick

Henry already did. Raiders got Robert Gallery. The Cardinals have now been on the clock for about 16 hours.

[swami jr]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
Uh huh well I was here earlier and Raiders fan was in here and didn't make his pick......so i think we should make the Raiders pick

Originally posted by BillsCAfan
Henry already did. Raiders got Robert Gallery. The Cardinals have now been on the clock for about 16 hours.

FINE

The Cardinals are on the clock...and have 6 hours to pick...

next 5:
Giants
Redskins
Lions
Browns
Falcons

[wolfpack]

Saw the 24 post and I was ready to roll, then I opened the link, ughhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[coastal]

Is the Minnesota Vikings front office running this thing or what?

[Mouldsie]

sorry guys i have had some trouble recently and haven't been online much

i was responsible for raiders pick (fitz or manning)

[swami jr]

Originally posted by MOULDSROCKS
sorry guys i have had some trouble recently and haven't been online much

i was responsible for raiders pick (fitz or manning)

well, now you can have the Cardinal's pick.

[BillsCAfan]

Wow....didn't this go down the crapshoot quite quick.

Well thanks to all those who tried to set this up, and the ones that actually showed up.

[swami jr]

Still in the draft:

BillsCAfan
gonzo1105
wolfpack
admarc
coastalPT
BLEDSOEROCKS
Unklechucky
CJBS
bad radio
NewDrew4u
WallyTuggs
two4trippn
Dr. Atomic
MOULDSROCKS


On the verge of losing their team:

San Diego-NewDrew4u
Oakland-RaidersFan
Arizona-Bflojohn
Washington-ryguy8161
Detroit-mac60jus
Houston-Double P
NYJ-ThePatsLitterBox
Tampa Bay-35Pete
San Francisco-mattrose992000
Cincinnati-EM BILLSFAN 80
Minnesota-kdipirro
Denver- Blzfan51
St. Louis- Bubblehelmet
Indianapolis-TheMugwump

[swami jr]

Henry4MVP can have a team (Raiders or whoever) if you want.

[matthew94]

Once again, I've been here multiple times since the draft started. It's pretty sad when we have to post three times just to let people know we are still ready to post. But what can you do. Oh well.

It'd almost be better to say 'we're having a mock draft at 8pm saturday, whoever shows up is in it'

[swami jr]

Originally posted by mattrose992000
Once again, I've been here multiple times since the draft started. It's pretty sad when we have to post three times just to let people know we are still ready to post. But what can you do. Oh well.

It'd almost be better to say 'we're having a mock draft at 8pm saturday, whoever shows up is in it'

sorry, sorry, sorry. My fault. Your team is yours.

[matthew94]

I'm not too upset about it :)

sorry if I sounded frustrated. Thanks for your work in trying to make this happen!

[Wally]

:smokin: waiting...

[two4trippn]

Why not set a time limit, say Monday evening sometime if this drags on and have the willing participants divide up the remaining teams with a 2 hour "clock" during daylight hours. Just a thought, something my wife says I lack....

[swami jr]

San Diego
Oakland
Arizona
Washington
Detroit
Houston
NYJ
Tampa Bay
Cincinnati
Minnesota
Denver
St. Louis
Indianapolis

are up for grabs

[Mouldsie]

Sooooo



We have:


Chargers: Manning
Raiders: ? (Fitzgerald was supposed to be the choice but apparently someone gave them Gallery? They are stacked on the OL)


and Arizona is on the clock? Which is now me.... ok give me a few minutes to clear this all up.

[Mouldsie]

The big problem is that this thing took too long to set up, then we decided a time and some people weren't here for it. Plus, it's Spring Break.

[gonzo1105]

Yea first two picks were Eli Manning and Robert Gallery .......just make the pick lol i'm next

[Mouldsie]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
Yea first two picks were Eli Manning and Robert Gallery .......just make the pick lol i'm next

check ur PM's

[unklechucky]

I guess Ill double up and take the Skins, just clue me in when theyre picking and ill do some quick research on them.

[Mouldsie]

the #3 spot is available for trade....

[Mouldsie]

ok since i can't pull off any deals.... give me Kellen Winslow TE Miami. I had him targeted but couldn't trade down.

[gonzo1105]

so is that OFFICIAL?

[Mouldsie]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
so is that OFFICIAL?

yea... teams wouldnt trade with me and it was taking too long.... :D

[gonzo1105]

With the 4th Pick The NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS SELECT:


BEN ROETHLISBERGER QB MIAMI( OH)


We feel Ben will be a very successful QB at the next level and with Kerry Collins impending FA we needed to replace him. We seriously thought about Sean Taylor but decided Roethlisberger was our man

[BillsCAfan]

Washington Redskins ARE NOW ON THE CLOCK!!!!

[unklechucky]

Im assuming Ive got them since I said id pick them up...in that case...........

The Washington Redskins select Sean Taylor S Miami, Fl.

[BillsCAfan]

Off the Board:
Manning
Roethlisberger
Gallery
Fitzgerald
Taylor

Detroit IS NOW ON THE CLOCK

[gonzo1105]

Fitzgerald is still on the board.....

The picks have been Manning, Gallery, Winslow, Roethlisberger, and Taylor

[BillsCAfan]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
Fitzgerald is still on the board.....

The picks have been Manning, Gallery, Winslow, Roethlisberger, and Taylor

I thought Arizona already took Fitzgerald...but whatever.

Manning, Gallery, Winslow, Roethlisberger and Taylor it is.

[two4trippn]

If no one else wants Detroit - I'll take them and select Larry Fitzgerald.

[swami jr]

Browns looking to trade down...

[swami jr]

San Diego
Houston
NYJ
Tampa Bay
Cincinnati
Minnesota
Denver
St. Louis
Indianapolis

are up for grabs

[swami jr]

I won't be on the rest of the day so, the Browns pick DeAngelo Hall, CB Virginia Tech.

The Falcons are on the clock....

[gonzo1105]

I'll take Denver and Indianapolis

[BillsCAfan]

sorry guys, gotta up kinda late, its pretty unpredictable when picks are gonna be picked.


FALCONS CHOOSE ROY WILLIAMS

[wolfpack]

am I up am I up......................................ahhhhhhhhh hhhh only on pick 8, ugu wake me next draft!:drool2:

[coastal]

The Jaguars select DE Udezi.

[matthew94]

Texans looking to trade down...PM me quickly

[gonzo1105]

OFF THE BOARD:

Manning
Gallery
Winslow Jr.
Roethlisberger
Hall
Fitzgerald
Roy Williams
Udeze
Taylor

[matthew94]

Texans have traded #10 to TB Bucs for #15 and #79

[gonzo1105]

Tampa Bay has to confirm this as well

[shenanigan]

Yes, we agreed on the trade

I'm on the clock

[shenanigan]

i pick tommie harris DT

[gonzo1105]

15TH PICK TAMPA BAY SELECTS TOMMIE HARRIS DT OKLAHOMA

[gonzo1105]

<img src='images/smilies/censored.gif'> sorry 10th Pick lol Pittsburgh is now on the clock!!!!!!

[gonzo1105]

Next teams up after Pittsburgh:

New York Jets-CoastalPT
Buffalo- Mouldsrock
Chicago- Gonzo1105
Houston- Mattrose

[matthew94]

So far, as far as I can tell


San Diego...........Eli Manning
Oakland..............Robert Gallery
Arizona...............Kellen Winslow jr.
NYG.....................Ben Roethlessburger
Washington........Sean Taylor
Detroit................Larry Fitzgerald
Cleveland............DeAngelo Hall
Atlanta................Roy Williams
Jacksonville........Keneche Udeze
Tampa Bay.........Tommie Harris
Pittsburgh..........

[two4trippn]

The Pittsburgh Stillers select



Phillip Rivers - QB

[gonzo1105]

New York Jets are on the Clock !!!!!!!

[coastal]

The Jets select reciever M. Williams. Have fun trading down Mouldsie:moon:

[Bubblehelmet]

Hey, I still want the Rams.

[Josh Reed1]

Originally posted by coastalPT
The Jets select reciever M. Williams. Have fun trading down Mouldsie:moon:

Yeah the Jets needed a WR especially trading there 2nd for MCCareins!:flush:

[bad radio]

^ best player available

[gonzo1105]

Alright guys I have a class at 2:10 so if its my pick dont flip i'll be back right after it. Hopefully Moulds will have picked by then.

[bad radio]

Gonzo, what's the word on the thing I asked you about

[Mouldsie]

you bastard

[coastal]

Originally posted by MOULDSROCKS
you bastard

What can I say? Dude is an absolute freak. And your damn skippy. Dude was the best available player in the draft and would give the New York Jets one of the best recieving corps in the NFL.

Not to mention, I stuck it to Mouldsie. Life is good.:nana: :bling:

[Mouldsie]

alright, the Buffalo Bills select: Reggie Williams, WR Washington.




Woulda traded down if SF wasn't gonna grab him.

[gonzo1105]

Bad I'm gonna pass on that trade i can get a good player with 34 and a solid one with my 4th

[gonzo1105]

The Chicago Bears have announced a trade with the Cincinnati Bengals


Bears will receive pick # 24 and Cinci's 2nd rounder for # 14 and a 5th round

[Bubblehelmet]

Bad Radio,
I'm gonna start calling you Paris Hilton b/c your box is always full. Clear some space for a trade proposal.

[matthew94]

Hey Gonzo..who has the Bengals? Can they confirm that trade?

And that would put them on the clock with the number 14 pick.

[bad radio]

Originally posted by Bubblehelmet
Bad Radio,
I'm gonna start calling you Paris Hilton b/c your box is always full. Clear some space for a trade proposal.

:D that's hilarious.

My box is fine, I keep it trimmed and -

Um, I mean, I don't know why you can't get through. I don't think it's I'll get rid of a few things, try me again in a few minutes

**EDIT: should definitely be OK now. It wasn't full to begin with though.

[gonzo1105]

Swami controls the Bengals he should be around soon to confirm and pick

[Mehser]

To All-

When sending/receiving PM's, be aware that any items in your sent items also count against your allowable message limit. If you clear out the Sent PM's (See "Jump to Folder", upper right) you can create more room.

Enjoy your drafting!!!!!!

[bad radio]

Originally posted by Mehser
To All-

When sending/receiving PM's, be aware that any items in your sent items also count against your allowable message limit. If you clear out the Sent PM's (See "Jump to Folder", upper right) you can create more room.

Enjoy your drafting!!!!!!

Right, I understand that, but if my little chart/graph thingy says "30% full" that means I should have plenty of room, right?

[Mehser]

Originally posted by bad radio
Right, I understand that, but if my little chart/graph thingy says "30% full" that means I should have plenty of room, right?

That only measure the inbox, not the sent box.

[swami jr]

sorry, had class.
trade confirmed.
Bengals select Vince Wilfork.
Houston is on the clock...

[gonzo1105]

After houston

San Francisco
Denver
New Orleans
Minnesota


OFF the board:
Manning
Gallery
Winslow Jr
Roethlisberger
Taylor
Fitzgerald
Hall
Roy Williams
Kenechi Udeze
Harris
Rivers
Mike Williams
Reggie Williams
Vince Wilfork

[matthew94]

San Diego...........Eli Manning
Oakland..............Robert Gallery
Arizona...............Kellen Winslow jr.
NYG.....................Ben Roethlessburger
Washington........Sean Taylor
Detroit................Larry Fitzgerald
Cleveland............DeAngelo Hall
Atlanta................Roy Williams
Jacksonville........Keneche Udeze
Tampa Bay.........Tommie Harris
Pittsburgh..........Philip Rivers
NY Jets...............Mike Williams
Buffalo...............Reggie Williams
Cincinnati..........Vince Wilfork
Houston:
WITH THE 15TH PICK IN THE DRAFT, HOUSTON SELECTS DE WILL SMITH

[gonzo1105]

On the Clock: San Francisco( Mattrose)

[matthew94]

WITH THE 16TH PICK IN THE DRAFT, SAN FRANCISCO SELECTS OT SHAWN ANDREWS

[gonzo1105]

WITH THE 17TH PICK THE DENVER BRONCOS SELECT

STEVEN JACKSON RB OREGON STATE


We usually dont feel we need a first round back to be successful but when a talent like Jackson drops right into our laps we really had to take him. Karlos Dansby and D.J Williams were also viable candidates but we couldn't pass him up

[gonzo1105]

ON THE CLOCK: NEW ORLEANS!!! ( Bledsoerocks)

[swami jr]

next five after the Saints:

Vikings
Dolphins
Patriots
Cowboys
Seahawks

San Diego...........Eli Manning
Oakland..............Robert Gallery
Arizona...............Kellen Winslow jr.
NYG.....................Ben Roethlessburger
Washington........Sean Taylor
Detroit................Larry Fitzgerald
Cleveland............DeAngelo Hall
Atlanta................Roy Williams
Jacksonville........Keneche Udeze
Tampa Bay.........Tommie Harris
Pittsburgh..........Philip Rivers
NY Jets...............Mike Williams
Buffalo...............Reggie Williams
Cincinnati..........Vince Wilfork
Houston..............Will Smith
San Francisco.....Shawn Andrews
Denver...............Steven Jackson
New Orleans:

[unklechucky]

Miami is looking to trade down...any offers PM me.

[BanditsRock11]

San Diego stands here awaiting its next awesome pick. :opera:

[Wacky Feet]

San Diego...........Eli Manning
Oakland..............Robert Gallery
Arizona...............Kellen Winslow jr.
NYG.....................Ben Roethlessburger
Washington........Sean Taylor
Detroit................Larry Fitzgerald
Cleveland............DeAngelo Hall
Atlanta................Roy Williams
Jacksonville........Keneche Udeze
Tampa Bay.........Tommie Harris
Pittsburgh..........Philip Rivers
NY Jets...............Mike Williams
Buffalo...............Reggie Williams
Cincinnati..........Vince Wilfork
Houston..............Will Smith
San Francisco.....Shawn Andrews
Denver...............Steven Jackson



With the 18th pick of the draft the New Orleans Saints select:

Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami

[Wacky Feet]

I picked Vilma, it was a tough decision between him and D.J. Williams, but I feel he is better suited for the saints and was a good value at the pick

[Wacky Feet]

Minnesota is looking to trade down, are there any offers?

[Wacky Feet]

Round 1

*denotes underclassman

1.San Diego...........Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2.Oakland..............Robert Gallery OT Iowa
3.Arizona...............Kellen Winslow Jr. TE Miami
4.NYG.....................Ben Roethlessburger* QB Miami (Ohio)
5.Washington........Sean Taylor S Miami
6.Detroit................Larry Fitzgerald* WR Pittsburgh
7.Cleveland............DeAngelo Hall* CB Virginia Tech
8.Atlanta................Roy Williams WR Texas
9.Jacksonville........Keneche Udeze* DE USC
10.Tampa Bay(trade w/ houston).........Tommie Harris* DT Oklahoma
11.Pittsburgh..........Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
12.NY Jets...............Mike Williams* WR USC
13.Buffalo...............Reggie Williams* WR Washington
14.Cincinnati(trade w/ chicago)..........Vince Wilfork* DT Miami
15.Houston(trade w/ tampa)..............Will Smith DE Ohio State
16.San Francisco.....Shawn Andrews* OT Arkansas
17.Denver...............Steven Jackson* RB Oregon State
18.New Orleans............Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami
19.Minnesota................Chris Gamble* CB Ohio State
20.Miami
21.New England
22.Dallas
23.Seattle

With the 19th selection of the first round, the Minnesota Vikings select:

Chris Gamble CB Ohio State

analysis: the reason I picked gamble for the vikings is, he was the next best corner available, and he is from Ohio State. He could start along with another former Ohio State alumni, Antoine Winfield. Imagine that, two ohio state cbs?

[matthew94]

I'm hoping to trade into the 20's

I'm Sanfrancisco picks 46 and 77
I'm also Houston picks 40, 71, 79

If you're interested in trading a pick in the 20's PM me, thanks

[unklechucky]

With the 20th pick, The Miami Dolphins select


Vernon Carey OG University of Miami

[SabreNasty2630]

Im the Bengals....looking to Trade Wilfolk. I just took over them from swami and would like to recieve a pick here in the 1st and also a 2nd and a player possibly, depending what you would like to offer. PM me with offers

[Wacky Feet]

Round 1

*denotes underclassman

1.San Diego...........Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2.Oakland..............Robert Gallery OT Iowa
3.Arizona...............Kellen Winslow Jr. TE Miami
4.NYG.....................Ben Roethlessburger* QB Miami (Ohio)
5.Washington........Sean Taylor S Miami
6.Detroit................Larry Fitzgerald* WR Pittsburgh
7.Cleveland............DeAngelo Hall* CB Virginia Tech
8.Atlanta................Roy Williams WR Texas
9.Jacksonville........Keneche Udeze* DE USC
10.Tampa Bay(trade w/ houston).........Tommie Harris* DT Oklahoma
11.Pittsburgh..........Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
12.NY Jets...............Mike Williams* WR USC
13.Buffalo...............Reggie Williams* WR Washington
14.Cincinnati(trade w/ chicago)..........Vince Wilfork* DT Miami
15.Houston(trade w/ tampa)..............Will Smith DE Ohio State
16.San Francisco.....Shawn Andrews* OT Arkansas
17.Denver...............Steven Jackson* RB Oregon State
18.New Orleans............Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami
19.Minnesota................Chris Gamble* CB Ohio State
20.Miami........................Vernon Carey OG Miami
21.New England
22.Dallas
23.Seattle

[matthew94]

CJBS and Mattrose992000 have made a trade

Mattrose992000 (Houston) gets pick #22 from the Cowboys

CJBS (Dallas) gets pick #40 and pick #79 (previously acquired from TB Bucs) from the Texans

[Dr. Atomic]

I'm going to list the preferential picks for Seattle in advance, so things can move along a little faster. Since New England and Houston (from Dallas) are both ahead of me, I'll list my top 3 players, in order:


1. Randy Starks, DT, Maryland
2. D.J. Williams, OLB, Miami
3. Dunta Robinson, CB, South Carolina

Edited to put Starks as #1 choice. This is torture. Some publications have Starks ranked as high as 17. The Seahawks #1 need is at DT, so if he's anywhere near that good, the Hawks would take him. The problem is that a couple lists this week have Starks dropping rapidly into the mid-second round for reasons that I don't really understand. They do not seem to be related to the combine results, but more to his performances in college.

*shrugs* I'm going to guess that this is one of those temporary irregularities in the draft reports, and go with Starks if he's around at #23.

[gonzo1105]

Guys CJBS wont be on until roughly 5-6 so were at a stale period till then.... Just make sure you back around this time. I wont be here but I have left my picks with Swami for my bears selection. So Matt be prepared around 6 then we can go off Dr.Atomic's list then Swami will make my pick.....so whoever has 25 should also be ready

[SabreNasty2630]

Bengals will also take offers for Corey Dillon

[Bubblehelmet]

MouldsRocks, please check your PMs. Thanks.

[bad radio]

Tennessee has traded it's first round pick (#27) and it's second round pick (#57) to Cincinnati for the rights to Vince Wilfork, Cincinnati's 3rd round pick (#80) and their 2005 3rd round pick. EM BILLSFAN 80 will confirm also.

[SabreNasty2630]

Confirmation on the Trade with BR

[gonzo1105]

Guys i'm gonna have to look into this.......EM billsfan you can not trade Corey Dillon it is in the rules that players can not be traded and i'm pretty sure Swami will chime in sometime. Just warning you that this Wifork to Titans thing might not go through . EM dont you think it looks bad that you trade up to take Wifork at 14 and then trade him for 27?

[bad radio]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
Guys i'm gonna have to look into this.......EM billsfan you can not trade Corey Dillon it is in the rules that players can not be traded and i'm pretty sure Swami will chime in sometime. Just warning you that this Wifork to Titans thing might not go through . EM dont you think it looks bad that you trade up to take Wifork at 14 and then trade him for 27?

Uhh...I may not have been paying attention. Sorry. If the rules are that you can't trade players -

OK, but we're not trading current players. We're trading the rights to sign that player. And what EM is doing is making multiple trades to get more and higher picks.

Do I think that would happen in real life? No. But hey, we always complain about how GM's never do anything exciting during the draft. Now we get to see how real Madden Football-style GM's would do it. :D

[gonzo1105]

Yes i understand that .....hence why i said i'm not sure if it will go through or not. Technically this kind of stuff never happens in the NFL only in the NBA but who knows I dont know if Swami is going to count Wilfork as a current player or not but for Dillon he can't be traded

[matthew94]

The Patriots are still on the clock...

[swami jr]

Originally posted by bad radio
Tennessee has traded it's first round pick (#27) and it's second round pick (#57) to Cincinnati for the rights to Vince Wilfork, Cincinnati's 3rd round pick (#80) and their 2005 3rd round pick. EM BILLSFAN 80 will confirm also.

Originally posted by EM BILLSFAN 80
Confirmation on the Trade with BR

Originally posted by gonzo1105
Guys i'm gonna have to look into this.......EM billsfan you can not trade Corey Dillon it is in the rules that players can not be traded and i'm pretty sure Swami will chime in sometime. Just warning you that this Wifork to Titans thing might not go through . EM dont you think it looks bad that you trade up to take Wifork at 14 and then trade him for 27?

Originally posted by bad radio
Uhh...I may not have been paying attention. Sorry. If the rules are that you can't trade players -

OK, but we're not trading current players. We're trading the rights to sign that player. And what EM is doing is making multiple trades to get more and higher picks.

Do I think that would happen in real life? No. But hey, we always complain about how GM's never do anything exciting during the draft. Now we get to see how real Madden Football-style GM's would do it. :D

Originally posted by gonzo1105
Yes i understand that .....hence why i said i'm not sure if it will go through or not. Technically this kind of stuff never happens in the NFL only in the NBA but who knows I dont know if Swami is going to count Wilfork as a current player or not but for Dillon he can't be traded

the trade is okay, it is the same as a retro active trading of picks where tennessee traded up and got Vince. can't trade dillon, but you didn't so thats okay.

[swami jr]

I sent a PM to TheMugwump to take over the Patriots, but he has not responded. Overdue Bills (the listed GM) has been inactive and no longer controls the team. The New England Patriots are now up for grabs.

[CJBS]

ill take the Pats if thats OK

[CJBS]

and if thats is okay then I will select RB Kevin Jones Virginia Tech

[wolfpack]

:fabulous1

[matthew94]

That means Houston is on the clock with the 22nd pick (CJBS, could you confirm that trade so I can pick?)

[swami jr]

Houston is on the clock ....

next 5 picks after Houston:

Houston
Seattle
Chicago
Green Bay
St. Louis


1.San Diego..................Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2.Oakland.....................Robert Gallery OT Iowa
3.Arizona......................Kellen Winslow Jr. TE Miami
4.NYG............................Ben Roethlessburger QB Miami (Ohio)
5.Washington...............Sean Taylor S Miami
6.Detroit........................Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
7.Cleveland...................DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech
8.Atlanta.......................Roy Williams WR Texas
9.Jacksonville................Keneche Udeze DE USC
10.Tampa Bay...............Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma
11.Pittsburgh................Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
12.NY Jets.....................Mike Williams WR USC
13.Buffalo......................Reggie Williams WR Washington
14.Tennesee.................Vince Wilfork DT Miami
15.Houston...................Will Smith DE Ohio State
16.San Francisco...........Shawn Andrews OT Arkansas
17.Denver.....................Steven Jackson RB Oregon State
18.New Orleans............Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami
19.Minnesota................Chris Gamble CB Ohio State
20.Miami........................Vernon Carey OG Miami
21.New England............Kevin Jones, HB Virginia Tech
22.Houston:

[matthew94]

WITH THE 22ND PICK HOUSTON SELECTS CB DERRICK STRAIT

[swami jr]

i didn't realize the trade wasn't confirmed, but the draft will go on unless CJBS complains. If CJBS does complain he makes the 22nd selection and we start over from there.

[swami jr]

Seattle is on the clock...

5 picks after Seattle are:

Chicago
Green Bay
St. Louis
Cincinatti
Philadelphia

[matthew94]

***Here is a copy of the PM just to put your mind at ease

Author Message
CJBS

Registered Fanatic

Member ID: 6025
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 76
Buffalo Chips: 190

trade
as the representative of the Dallas Cowboys I will trade you (Houston) pick 22 in round 1 for picks 40 and 79

04-13-2004 08:49 AM
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[swami jr]

Seattle selects Randy Starks

Chicago is on the clock....

[swami jr]

Chicago selects Darnell Dockett

Green Bay is on the clock....


5 after GB:
St. Louis
Cincinnati
Philadelphia
Indianapolis
Kansas City

1.San Diego..................Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2.Oakland.....................Robert Gallery OT Iowa
3.Arizona......................Kellen Winslow Jr. TE Miami
4.NYG............................Ben Roethlessburger QB Miami (Ohio)
5.Washington...............Sean Taylor S Miami
6.Detroit........................Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
7.Cleveland...................DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech
8.Atlanta.......................Roy Williams WR Texas
9.Jacksonville................Keneche Udeze DE USC
10.Tampa Bay...............Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma
11.Pittsburgh................Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
12.NY Jets.....................Mike Williams WR USC
13.Buffalo......................Reggie Williams WR Washington
14.Tennesee.................Vince Wilfork DT Miami
15.Houston...................Will Smith DE Ohio State
16.San Francisco...........Shawn Andrews OT Arkansas
17.Denver.....................Steven Jackson RB Oregon State
18.New Orleans............Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami
19.Minnesota................Chris Gamble CB Ohio State
20.Miami........................Vernon Carey OG Miami
21.New England............Kevin Jones, HB Virginia Tech
22.Houston...................Derrick Strait, CB Oklahoma
23.Seattle......................Randy Starks, DT Maryland
24.Chicago.....................Darnell Dockett, DT Florida State
25.Green Bay:



Originally posted by mattrose992000
***Here is a copy of the PM just to put your mind at ease

Author Message
CJBS

Registered Fanatic

Member ID: 6025
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 76
Buffalo Chips: 190

trade
as the representative of the Dallas Cowboys I will trade you (Houston) pick 22 in round 1 for picks 40 and 79

04-13-2004 08:49 AM
Next Message >

cool :)

[CJBS]

yes trade is cool no complaints Jerry Jones is very happy right now waiting inside the war room. He feels that he will still get who he wants and more now

[gonzo1105]

Alright thanks Swami for making my first selection but if we get to the Colts i'm here for that


Analysis for the Bears pick: Our coach Lovie Smith wants smaller DT's and we felt that Darnell was our number two guy on our board for DT's behind Tommie Harris. Dockett is not much of a run stuffer but can work his way into the backfield.

[Wally]

Green Bay selects Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina with the 25th pick overall.

[gonzo1105]

St. Louis is now on the clock!!!!!!(bubblehelmet)

[swami jr]

since people are doing analysis, I'll comment on the Browns pick.
We are happy to get a player of DeAngelo Hall's callibur, both as a return man and as a player in the defensive backfield. He has shown the ability to make plays and we believe players like him give our team an identity and attitude on defense and special teams. Any time you can make a move to improve two of the three aspects of a team simultaneously it is a very valuable move.

[Wacky Feet]

Round 1

*denotes underclassman

1.San Diego...........Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2.Oakland..............Robert Gallery OT Iowa
3.Arizona...............Kellen Winslow Jr. TE Miami
4.NYG.....................Ben Roethlessburger* QB Miami (Ohio)
5.Washington........Sean Taylor S Miami
6.Detroit................Larry Fitzgerald* WR Pittsburgh
7.Cleveland............DeAngelo Hall* CB Virginia Tech
8.Atlanta................Roy Williams WR Texas
9.Jacksonville........Keneche Udeze* DE USC
10.Tampa Bay(trade w/ houston).........Tommie Harris* DT Oklahoma
11.Pittsburgh..........Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
12.NY Jets...............Mike Williams* WR USC
13.Buffalo...............Reggie Williams* WR Washington
14.Cincinnati(trade w/ chicago)..........Vince Wilfork* DT Miami
15.Houston(trade w/ tampa)..............Will Smith DE Ohio State
16.San Francisco.....Shawn Andrews* OT Arkansas
17.Denver...............Steven Jackson* RB Oregon State
18.New Orleans............Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami
19.Minnesota................Chris Gamble* CB Ohio State
20.Miami........................Vernon Carey OG Miami
21.New England.................Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech
22.Houston..................................Derric k Strait CB Oklahoma
23.Seattle................................Randy Starks DT Maryland
24.Chicago............................Darnell Dockett DT Florida State
25.Green Bay......................Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina
26.St. Louis
27.Cincinnati
28.Philadelphia
29.Indianapolis
30.Kansas City

[SabreNasty2630]

Cincy will trade down again for a 2nd/3rd round pick possibly, make an offer

[Bubblehelmet]

The Rams have accepted a trade from Indy to move down to 29 and pick up Indy's 4th round pick. gonzo1105 will confirm.

(sorry for the delay, I only have the net at work)

[TheMugwump]

Point of order, Indy has no 4th round pick this year.

[gonzo1105]

<img src='images/smilies/censored.gif'> good call mug wasn't paying attention.

[TheMugwump]

de rien...


My pleasure. :cool3:

[gonzo1105]

Well its cool i'm sure with Bubblehelmet but i'll give him a 5th and if he isn't satisfied i'll give him my 3rd. But i really like the player on the board

[gonzo1105]

With the 26th pick The Indianapolis Colts select:


DJ Williams LB Miami

[gonzo1105]

analysis: We know that we have lots of needs on the defensive side of the ball and corner is one of them but we didnt see real good value at that position right now and that Williams very well could be gone at 29. The loss of Marcus Washington also played in the decision

[gonzo1105]

Cincinnat is on the clock!!!!!!(EM Billsfan)

[Dr. Atomic]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
With the 26th pick The Indianapolis Colts select:


DJ Williams LB Miami

Bummer.

[Bubblehelmet]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
Well its cool i'm sure with Bubblehelmet but i'll give him a 5th and if he isn't satisfied i'll give him my 3rd. But i really like the player on the board

I guess I should've investigated that. I'll take that 3rd round pick. Thanks.

[SabreNasty2630]

The Cincinnati Bengals Select S Sean Jones Georgia

[Bubblehelmet]

Rams looking to trade back again from the 29th pick into the early 2nd round. Looking for a 2nd and a late 3rd or early 4th. I would've sent a PM to someone but I can't figure out who has what team anymore. PM me with any offer.

[gonzo1105]

What team are u looking for

[Bubblehelmet]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
What team are u looking for

Any of the early 2nd round teams, Oak, Arz, NYG, Wash, Det, Cleve.

[wolfpack]

Got a PM that I was up??? If so the Birds select CB from Southern Cal, Will Poole

[SabreNasty2630]

Bengals looking to package other 3rd round pick and 2nd round pick #57 to move up to early 2nd round pick

[gonzo1105]

Philidelphia is on the clock!!!!!(Wolfpack)

[wolfpack]

CB from Southern Cal, Will Poole

[gonzo1105]

St.Louis is on the clock!!!!!!! (Bubblehelmet)

[Henry4MVP]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
St.Louis is on the clock!!!!!!! (Bubblehelmet)

Check your PMs Bubblehelmet. :)

[Bubblehelmet]

St. Louis, in our continuing effort to never make a pick has traded back again. We have received picks #45 and 99 from Oakland. Oakland is now on the clock.

[Henry4MVP]

The Oakland Raiders select OLB Karlos Dansby from Auburn.

[gonzo1105]

Kansas City is now on the clock!!!!(admarc)

[gonzo1105]

1.San Diego...........Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2.Oakland..............Robert Gallery OT Iowa
3.Arizona...............Kellen Winslow Jr. TE Miami
4.NYG.....................Ben Roethlessburger* QB Miami (Ohio)
5.Washington........Sean Taylor S Miami
6.Detroit................Larry Fitzgerald* WR Pittsburgh
7.Cleveland............DeAngelo Hall* CB Virginia Tech
8.Atlanta................Roy Williams WR Texas
9.Jacksonville........Keneche Udeze* DE USC
10.Tampa Bay(trade w/ houston).........Tommie Harris* DT Oklahoma
11.Pittsburgh..........Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
12.NY Jets...............Mike Williams* WR USC
13.Buffalo...............Reggie Williams* WR Washington
14.Cincinnati(trade w/ chicago)..........Vince Wilfork* DT Miami
15.Houston(trade w/ tampa)..............Will Smith DE Ohio State
16.San Francisco.....Shawn Andrews* OT Arkansas
17.Denver...............Steven Jackson* RB Oregon State
18.New Orleans............Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami
19.Minnesota................Chris Gamble* CB Ohio State
20.Miami........................Vernon Carey OG Miami
21.New England.................Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech
22.Houston..................................Derric k Strait CB Oklahoma
23.Seattle................................Randy Starks DT Maryland
24.Chicago............................Darnell Dockett DT Florida State
25.Green Bay......................Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina
26.Indianapolis.................... D.J Williams LB Miami
27.Cincinnati........................Sean Jones S Georgia
28.Philadelphia....................Will Poole CB Southern Cal
29.Oakland..........................Karlos Dansby LB Auburn
30.Kansas City
31.Carolina
32.New England

[Bubblehelmet]

Man, now that I've made all of these trades I hope the pace picks up so I can actually make some of these picks.

[gonzo1105]

Were trying but some guys take their time which isn't a big deal i've felt we have made pretty decent progress.....My personal opinion is we should have started this earlier but we didn't get clearance from a mod so we did the best we could we should get through the 2nd but if people are down for it I guess we could keep goin even after the draft. It would be kind of weird but it would be like your own personal draft instead of goin based on what day the actual draft is

[Henry4MVP]

Originally posted by Bubblehelmet
Man, now that I've made all of these trades I hope the pace picks up so I can actually make some of these picks.

There've been quite a few trades so far. We're gonna have to go back and take a look at some of these things and see where everybody stands, at this rate.

[Henry4MVP]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
Were trying but some guys take their time which isn't a big deal i've felt we have made pretty decent progress.....My personal opinion is we should have started this earlier but we didn't get clearance from a mod so we did the best we could we should get through the 2nd but if people are down for it I guess we could keep goin even after the draft. It would be kind of weird but it would be like your own personal draft instead of goin based on what day the actual draft is

Hope springs eternal, gonzo. :) We're almost done with the first round and once we hit the third/fourth round we should blow through it. I have no problem admitting that my later round picks are going to be complete and total guesswork, and they're gonna go fast.

[Bubblehelmet]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
Were trying but some guys take their time which isn't a big deal i've felt we have made pretty decent progress.....My personal opinion is we should have started this earlier but we didn't get clearance from a mod so we did the best we could we should get through the 2nd but if people are down for it I guess we could keep goin even after the draft. It would be kind of weird but it would be like your own personal draft instead of goin based on what day the actual draft is

I wasn't complaining. I held us up all night last night. I just don't want to trade myself right out of the draft all together.

[Wacky Feet]

this is what round two is looking like. someone correct me if im wrong.





round 2

33.Arizona
34.N.Y.Giants
35.San Diego
36.Detroit
37.Cleveland
38.Atlanta
39.Jacksonville
40.Houston
41.Denver
42.Tennessee
43.Buffalo
44.Pittsburgh
45.St. Louis
46.San Francisco
47.Chicago
48.New Orleans
49.Cincinnati
50.Minnesota
51.Baltimore
52.Dallas
53.Seattle
54.Denver
55.Green Bay
56.New England
57.Cincinnati
58.Philadelphia
59.Indianapolis
60.New Orleans
61.Kansas City
62.Carolina
63.New England

[gonzo1105]

Chicago has Cincinnati's 49th pick via the Wilfork trade

[gonzo1105]

Bubble I never said you were complaining....i'm just saying is we can continue this draft if everyone wants to as a fun thing and i'll still moderate it cause i know a lot of trades and later picks were compiled so I was just saying if people were interested

[matthew94]

#40 belongs to the cowboys. I (Houston) traded it to them earlier. But if he doesn't want it I'd be glad to get it back.

[CJBS]

no I want that pick

[admarc]

KC Chiefs select:

Antwan Odom* DE 6-5 275 4.8 Alabama

sorry if I slowed things up, I was at work in the field. Just as I feared, watched this thing for days waiting for my turn, and then wasn't around.

Anyway, Chiefs need Defense, and Odom has lots of upside, with the frame to bulk up, great spead/size ratio.

[swami jr]

Kansas City is on the clock....(admarc)

1.San Diego................Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2.Oakland...................Robert Gallery OT Iowa
3.Arizona.....................Kellen Winslow Jr. TE Miami
4.NYG..........................Ben Roethlessburger* QB Miami (Ohio)
5.Washington..............Sean Taylor S Miami
6.Detroit......................Larry Fitzgerald* WR Pittsburgh
7.Cleveland.................DeAngelo Hall* CB Virginia Tech
8.Atlanta......................Roy Williams WR Texas
9.Jacksonville...............Keneche Udeze* DE USC
10.Tampa Bay..............Tommie Harris* DT Oklahoma
11.Pittsburgh................Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
12.NY Jets....................Mike Williams* WR USC
13.Buffalo.....................Reggie Williams* WR Washington
14.Tennessee...............Vince Wilfork* DT Miami
15.Houston...................Will Smith DE Ohio State
16.San Francisco...........Shawn Andrews* OT Arkansas
17.Denver.....................Steven Jackson* RB Oregon State
18.New Orleans............Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami
19.Minnesota................Chris Gamble* CB Ohio State
20.Miami........................Vernon Carey OG Miami
21.New England............Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech
22.Houston....................Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma
23.Seattle......................Randy Starks DT Maryland
24.Chicago.....................Darnell Dockett DT Florida State
25.Green Bay.................Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina
26.Indianapolis..............D.J Williams LB Miami
27.Cincinnati..................Sean Jones S Georgia
28.Philadelphia..............Will Poole CB Southern Cal
29.Oakland....................Karlos Dansby LB Auburn
30.Kansas City
31.Carolina
32.New England
33.Arizona
34.N.Y. Giants
35.San Diego
36.Detroit
37.Cleveland
38.Atlanta
39.Jacksonville
40.Dallas
41.Denver
42.Tennessee
43.Buffalo
44.Pittsburgh
45.St. Louis
46.San Francisco
47.Chicago
48.New Orleans
49.Chicago
50.Minnesota
51.Baltimore
52.Dallas
53.Seattle
54.Denver
55.Green Bay
56.New England
57.Tennessee
58.Cincinnati
59.Indianapolis
60.New Orleans
61.Kansas City
62.Carolina
63.New England

[wolfpack]

I did not trade any picks and acording to espn.com Philadelphia has the following picks: 28, 58 (not Cincinnati), 89, 129, 131, 185, 192, 227, 242, and 243.

Let me know if I missed somthing

[admarc]

Originally posted by admarc
KC Chiefs select:

Antwan Odom* DE 6-5 275 4.8 Alabama

sorry if I slowed things up, I was at work in the field. Just as I feared, watched this thing for days waiting for my turn, and then wasn't around.

Anyway, Chiefs need Defense, and Odom has lots of upside, with the frame to bulk up, great spead/size ratio.


Carolina's up

[gonzo1105]

Nickypap has Carolina but I looked ahead and he hasn't been on in a couple days....were gonna need a ruling

[BillsCAfan]

I'll take Carolina if he doesn't show.

[gonzo1105]

Take em if you want ........but you might have to give them back I want to get in the 2nd round tonight

[swami jr]

Originally posted by admarc
Carolina's up

my bad, i was making my post when you posted.

[gonzo1105]

Can we get a ruling there Swami.......shall BillsCA take over for Carolina just at least on this pick cause nicky hasn't been on for awhile

[BillsCAfan]

Alright, well I'll make this pick, and if he shows, then I'll give it back. If not, then I'll keep picking for Carolina.

Carolina selects WR LEE EVANS

[gonzo1105]

New England Patriots are on the clock!!!!!(CJBS)....last pick

[CJBS]

The new england patriots select Michael Bouleware LB FSU

The Patriots believe hes a little small but will ah put on weight to get up to 250 since this is there extra pick in round one, hes not expected to start but learn from the current LB core and contribute a little this season

[matthew94]

The first round is complete!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1.San Diego................Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2.Oakland...................Robert Gallery OT Iowa
3.Arizona.....................Kellen Winslow Jr. TE Miami
4.NYG..........................Ben Roethlessburger* QB Miami (Ohio)
5.Washington..............Sean Taylor S Miami
6.Detroit......................Larry Fitzgerald* WR Pittsburgh
7.Cleveland.................DeAngelo Hall* CB Virginia Tech
8.Atlanta......................Roy Williams WR Texas
9.Jacksonville...............Keneche Udeze* DE USC
10.Tampa Bay..............Tommie Harris* DT Oklahoma
11.Pittsburgh................Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
12.NY Jets....................Mike Williams* WR USC
13.Buffalo.....................Reggie Williams* WR Washington
14.Tennessee...............Vince Wilfork* DT Miami
15.Houston...................Will Smith DE Ohio State
16.San Francisco...........Shawn Andrews* OT Arkansas
17.Denver.....................Steven Jackson* RB Oregon State
18.New Orleans............Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami
19.Minnesota................Chris Gamble* CB Ohio State
20.Miami........................Vernon Carey OG Miami
21.New England............Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech
22.Houston....................Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma
23.Seattle......................Randy Starks DT Maryland
24.Chicago.....................Darnell Dockett DT Florida State
25.Green Bay.................Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina
26.Indianapolis..............D.J Williams LB Miami
27.Cincinnati..................Sean Jones S Georgia
28.Philadelphia..............Will Poole CB Southern Cal
29.Oakland....................Karlos Dansby LB Auburn
30.Kansas City..............Antwan Odom DE Alabama
31.Carolina...................Lee Evens WR Wisconson
32.New England...........Michael Boulware FSU

[gonzo1105]

Round 2!!!!!

33.Arizona
34.N.Y. Giants
35.San Diego
36.Detroit
37.Cleveland
38.Atlanta
39.Jacksonville
40.Dallas
41.Denver
42.Tennessee
43.Buffalo
44.Pittsburgh
45.St. Louis
46.San Francisco
47.Chicago
48.New Orleans
49.Chicago
50.Minnesota
51.Baltimore
52.Dallas
53.Seattle
54.Denver
55.Green Bay
56.New England
57.Tennessee
58.Cincinnati
59.Indianapolis
60.New Orleans
61.Kansas City
62.Carolina
63.New England

[gonzo1105]

Arizona is now on the clock!!!!!!(mouldsrocks)

[swami jr]

Originally posted by mattrose992000
The first round is complete!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1.San Diego................Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2.Oakland...................Robert Gallery OT Iowa
3.Arizona.....................Kellen Winslow Jr. TE Miami
4.NYG..........................Ben Roethlessburger* QB Miami (Ohio)
5.Washington..............Sean Taylor S Miami
6.Detroit......................Larry Fitzgerald* WR Pittsburgh
7.Cleveland.................DeAngelo Hall* CB Virginia Tech
8.Atlanta......................Roy Williams WR Texas
9.Jacksonville...............Keneche Udeze* DE USC
10.Tampa Bay..............Tommie Harris* DT Oklahoma
11.Pittsburgh................Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
12.NY Jets....................Mike Williams* WR USC
13.Buffalo.....................Reggie Williams* WR Washington
14.Tennessee...............Vince Wilfork* DT Miami
15.Houston...................Will Smith DE Ohio State
16.San Francisco...........Shawn Andrews* OT Arkansas
17.Denver.....................Steven Jackson* RB Oregon State
18.New Orleans............Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami
19.Minnesota................Chris Gamble* CB Ohio State
20.Miami........................Vernon Carey OG Miami
21.New England............Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech
22.Houston....................Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma
23.Seattle......................Randy Starks DT Maryland
24.Chicago.....................Darnell Dockett DT Florida State
25.Green Bay.................Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina
26.Indianapolis..............D.J Williams LB Miami
27.Cincinnati..................Sean Jones S Georgia
28.Philadelphia..............Will Poole CB Southern Cal
29.Oakland....................Karlos Dansby LB Auburn
30.Kansas City..............Antwan Odom DE Alabama
31.Carolina...................Lee Evens WR Wisconson
32.New England...........Michael Boulware FSU

Originally posted by CJBS
The new england patriots select Michael Bouleware LB FSU

The Patriots believe hes a little small but will ah put on weight to get up to 250 since this is there extra pick in round one, hes not expected to start but learn from the current LB core and contribute a little this season

Originally posted by gonzo1105
New England Patriots are on the clock!!!!!(CJBS)....last pick

Originally posted by BillsCAfan
Alright, well I'll make this pick, and if he shows, then I'll give it back. If not, then I'll keep picking for Carolina.

Carolina selects WR LEE EVANS

i don't mean to be cruel, but...
I want to give TheMugwump first dibs on Carolina.
If niether TheMugwump nor nickypap show up before noon, those two picks count. Until then, the last two picks are unofficial. After noon, they go into affect.

[gonzo1105]

Hey go for it Swami lol be cruel I was too people it worked!!! lol

[gonzo1105]

I'll give Mug Indy....I actually have trust in him now because i've seen him in here a lot......if you want em i gave away your 3rd round pick and then let one of the other guys keep the other teams cause I dont want to backtrack much you know Swami

[swami jr]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
I'll give Mug Indy....I actually have trust in him now because i've seen him in here a lot......if you want em i gave away your 3rd round pick and then let one of the other guys keep the other teams cause I dont want to backtrack much you know Swami

that'll probably work. we'll keep drafting, and if there are any complaints we'll work them out.

[TheMugwump]

Sold.

So that means we are on to the second round?

[swami jr]

second round:

33.Arizona
34.N.Y. Giants
35.San Diego
36.Detroit
37.Cleveland
38.Atlanta
39.Jacksonville
40.Dallas
41.Denver
42.Tennessee
43.Buffalo
44.Pittsburgh
45.St. Louis
46.San Francisco
47.Chicago
48.New Orleans
49.Chicago
50.Minnesota
51.Baltimore
52.Dallas
53.Seattle
54.Denver
55.Green Bay
56.New England
57.Cincinnati
58.Philadelphia
59.Indianapolis
60.New Orleans
61.Kansas City
62.Carolina
63.New England
Originally posted by wolfpack
I did not trade any picks and acording to espn.com Philadelphia has the following picks: 28, 58 (not Cincinnati), 89, 129, 131, 185, 192, 227, 242, and 243.

Let me know if I missed somthing

my mistake, fixed.

[gonzo1105]

Alright then....Arizona is on the clock.....where is that moulds character lol

[Mouldsie]

i was here last night and saw the warning to let others go.... i also tried to get a trade going but it dodn't work.... give me a couple mins

[Mouldsie]

ok i got it all sorted out... I'll take Kevin Jones RB VT

[gonzo1105]

Kevin Jones was already taken @ no. 21

[swami jr]

1.San Diego................Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2.Oakland...................Robert Gallery OT Iowa
3.Arizona.....................Kellen Winslow Jr. TE Miami
4.NYG..........................Ben Roethlessburger QB Miami (Ohio)
5.Washington..............Sean Taylor S Miami
6.Detroit......................Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
7.Cleveland.................DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech
8.Atlanta......................Roy Williams WR Texas
9.Jacksonville...............Keneche Udeze DE USC
10.Tampa Bay..............Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma
11.Pittsburgh................Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
12.NY Jets....................Mike Williams WR USC
13.Buffalo.....................Reggie Williams WR Washington
14.Tennessee...............Vince Wilfork DT Miami
15.Houston...................Will Smith DE Ohio State
16.San Francisco...........Shawn Andrews OT Arkansas
17.Denver.....................Steven Jackson RB Oregon State
18.New Orleans............Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami
19.Minnesota................Chris Gamble CB Ohio State
20.Miami........................Vernon Carey OG Miami
21.New England............Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech
22.Houston....................Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma
23.Seattle......................Randy Starks DT Maryland
24.Chicago.....................Darnell Dockett DT Florida State
25.Green Bay.................Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina
26.Indianapolis..............D.J Williams LB Miami
27.Cincinnati..................Sean Jones S Georgia
28.Philadelphia..............Will Poole CB Southern Cal
29.Oakland....................Karlos Dansby LB Auburn
30.Kansas City..............Antwan Odom DE Alabama
31.Carolina...................Lee Evens WR Wisconson
32.New England...........Michael Boulware FSU
33.Arizona:
34.N.Y. Giants
35.San Diego
36.Detroit
37.Cleveland
38.Atlanta
39.Jacksonville
40.Dallas
41.Denver
42.Tennessee
43.Buffalo
44.Pittsburgh
45.St. Louis
46.San Francisco
47.Chicago
48.New Orleans
49.Chicago
50.Minnesota
51.Baltimore
52.Dallas
53.Seattle
54.Denver
55.Green Bay
56.New England
57.Cincinnati
58.Philadelphia
59.Indianapolis
60.New Orleans
61.Kansas City
62.Carolina
63.New England

[BanditsRock11]

TODAY CARDNAILS!

[wolfpack]

:stupid: :dunce:

[wolfpack]

:homer:

[BillsCAfan]

Who has the cardinals pick?

[wolfpack]

Cardinal select MICHAEL SCIPIONE, QB Western Conn State University, now lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gonzo1105]

MouldsRocks has Arizona's pick he picked earlier but it was someone who was taken...So he probably hasn't come back cause he was in the clear

[BanditsRock11]

Ok i got a PM saying that if the Cardnails don't draft by midnight then its mine, so its past 12am and with the 33rd pick in the NFL draft the Arizona Cardnails select Maurice Clarett from Ohio St. University.

[gonzo1105]

With the 34th pick, The New York Giants select: Jake Grove C Virginia Tech

[gonzo1105]

San Diego is on the clock!!!!!(NewDrew4u

[coastal]

I PM'd NewDrew4u with a trade offer form Jacksonville for this pick. I will be back at 9:00 PM tonight. I offered him my second and third in exchange. I PM'd gonzo with my pick if the trade is accepted so things can move along quickly.

[BanditsRock11]

Sorry no trades here, with the 35th pick the San Diego Chargers select TE Ben Troupe from the University of Flordia.

[gonzo1105]

Detroit is now on the clock!!!!!

[two4trippn]

With their 2nd Round selection the Detroit Lions select:





Chris Perry - RB

[Mouldsie]

doh....

[BillsCAfan]

CLEVELAND IS ON THE CLOCK.....

[bad radio]

Just an update on my availability (mostly so Wolfpack doesn't have a :censor: cow this weekend) since my 2nd round Tennessee pick is coming up - I won't be able to get on here until Monday morning. Don't anyone try taking my place, I already told whoever was running this thing that I couldn't pick on the weekends. Sorry.

[Mehser]

Originally posted by bad radio
Just an update on my availability (mostly so Wolfpack doesn't have a :censor: cow this weekend) since my 2nd round Tennessee pick is coming up - I won't be able to get on here until Monday morning. Don't anyone try taking my place, I already told whoever was running this thing that I couldn't pick on the weekends. Sorry.

Maybe you can PM somebody a preferred list of potential picks so that the pick will not hold up others.

[bad radio]

Originally posted by Mehser
Maybe you can PM somebody a preferred list of potential picks so that the pick will not hold up others.

I can do that. Can I send it to you Mehser?

[gonzo1105]

send it to me ........Bledsoerocks has already asked to do that as well so if you want send it to me so i can organize them

[Wacky Feet]

1.San Diego................Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2.Oakland...................Robert Gallery OT Iowa
3.Arizona.....................Kellen Winslow Jr. TE Miami
4.NYG..........................Ben Roethlessburger QB Miami (Ohio)
5.Washington..............Sean Taylor S Miami
6.Detroit......................Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
7.Cleveland.................DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech
8.Atlanta......................Roy Williams WR Texas
9.Jacksonville...............Keneche Udeze DE USC
10.Tampa Bay..............Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma
11.Pittsburgh................Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
12.NY Jets....................Mike Williams WR USC
13.Buffalo.....................Reggie Williams WR Washington
14.Tennessee...............Vince Wilfork DT Miami
15.Houston...................Will Smith DE Ohio State
16.San Francisco...........Shawn Andrews OT Arkansas
17.Denver.....................Steven Jackson RB Oregon State
18.New Orleans............Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami
19.Minnesota................Chris Gamble CB Ohio State
20.Miami........................Vernon Carey OG Miami
21.New England............Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech
22.Houston....................Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma
23.Seattle......................Randy Starks DT Maryland
24.Chicago.....................Darnell Dockett DT Florida State
25.Green Bay.................Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina
26.Indianapolis..............D.J Williams LB Miami
27.Cincinnati..................Sean Jones S Georgia
28.Philadelphia..............Will Poole CB Southern Cal
29.Oakland....................Karlos Dansby LB Auburn
30.Kansas City..............Antwan Odom DE Alabama
31.Carolina...................Lee Evens WR Wisconson
32.New England...........Michael Boulware FSU
Round 2
33.Arizona.....................Maurice Clarett RB Ohio State
34.N.Y. Giants...............Jake Grove C Virginia Tech
35.San Diego................Ben Troupe TE Florida
36.Detroit......................Chris Perry RB Michigan
37.Cleveland
38.Atlanta
39.Jacksonville
40.Dallas
41.Denver
42.Tennessee
43.Buffalo
44.Pittsburgh
45.St. Louis
46.San Francisco
47.Chicago
48.New Orleans
49.Chicago
50.Minnesota
51.Baltimore
52.Dallas
53.Seattle
54.Denver
55.Green Bay
56.New England
57.Cincinnati
58.Philadelphia
59.Indianapolis
60.New Orleans
61.Kansas City
62.Carolina
63.New England

[swami jr]

The Browns select Michael Clayton, WR LSU

The Atlanta Falcons are on the clock...

[swami jr]

analysis:
The Browns yet again select a WR in the second round. Kevin Johnson, Dennis Northcutt, Quincy Morgan, now Michael Clayton. We are happy this strong reciever fell into our laps. We believe he is capable of dominating nickle backs with his ability to gain position and leaping ability. We lost Kevin Johnson this season, and are fortunate to find a wide reciever with the skills Michael has. We feel we have given our quarterback a solid target to work with, as we plan on using a lot of three WR sets in addition to a power running game. We feel he is a dominating downfield blocker to help out in the running game. He definetally fits the Cleveland blue collar mentality.

[coastal]

Analysis: U r a dumass! Did you mean Rashaun woods from O. State or M. Clayton from LSU? You should forfeit your pick out of stupidity just like Minnesota did last year.

[gonzo1105]

Oh yea I forgot my analysis about the Giants pick

Analysis: Well though Tackle was more of a need for our line, our front office believed that our whole o-line needs retooling so after getting our franchise QB we got a Pro bowl potential center for many years to come in Jake. We love Jake's nastiness in the run game and solid protection in the past.

[gonzo1105]

I believe he chose Michael Clayton WR LSU just messed up the school name lol

[swami jr]

Originally posted by coastalPT
Analysis: U r a dumass! Did you mean Rashaun woods from O. State or M. Clayton from LSU? You should forfeit your pick out of stupidity just like Minnesota did last year.

damn, i didn't think anyone would notice it before i edited it. i had woods for about 5 minutes, then realized i wanted clayton, CAfan hasn't posted yet, so i thought no harm no foul.

[swami jr]

Originally posted by coastalPT
Analysis: U r a dumass! Did you mean Rashaun woods from O. State or M. Clayton from LSU? You should forfeit your pick out of stupidity just like Minnesota did last year.

and you happened to look at it in the two minute span after i changed the pick, and before i changed the analysis, i can only change one post at a time.

[swami jr]

Originally posted by gonzo1105
I believe he chose Michael Clayton WR LSU just messed up the school name lol

oh yeah, that too.

[coastal]

So which pick is it swami?

[swami jr]

Originally posted by coastalPT
So which pick is it swami?

Clayton, I want Clayton, that's why I changed it.

[coastal]

Originally posted by swami jr
oh yeah, that too.

Swami Sr: "Let's go to the podium."

Tags: "The Cleveland Browns Draft Crew is drunk and stoned but we have finally gotten a pick deciphered from the scores of pizza boxes, bong water, and empty beer cans.

The Browns select WR Michael Clayton from LSU."

[swami jr]

Originally posted by coastalPT
Swami Sr: "Let's go to the podium."

Tags: "The Cleveland Browns Draft Crew is drunk and stoned but we have finally gotten a pick deciphered from the scores of pizza boxes, bong water, and empty beer cans.

The Browns select WR Michael Clayton from LSU."

lol, it's not that bad, without the posts following the pick, someone who looked at the board now would be none the wiser. it just so happens at least two people were in the forum before i changed it.

[coastal]

Step 1: Admitting there is a problem is the first step to recovery.

Only 11 more to go swami!:drool: :smokin: :chugga: :fumer:

[wolfpack]

Originally posted by bad radio
Just an update on my availability (mostly so Wolfpack doesn't have a :censor: cow this weekend) since my 2nd round Tennessee pick is coming up - I won't be able to get on here until Monday morning. Don't anyone try taking my place, I already told whoever was running this thing that I couldn't pick on the weekends. Sorry.

Me have a :censor: cow!!!!!!!!!! oops sorry didn't mean to come off that way. Especially now that I too will be outa town this weekend, hehe. gonzo1105 if I don't get to pick I will email you a list.

[gonzo1105]

ok man

[Henry4MVP]

Originally posted by coastalPT
Step 1: Admitting there is a problem is the first step to recovery.

Only 11 more to go swami!:drool: :smokin: :chugga: :fumer:

A little pissy today, aren't we coastal?

I'm guessing your ex-wife just told you (again) how great I am in bed.

[coastal]

You don't know how much I enjoy being your beyotch do you?

[Henry4MVP]

Originally posted by coastalPT
You don't know how much I enjoy being your beyotch do you?

I know you do. I'm just trying to help out! :)

[coastal]

What the hell else are super mods good for anyways?

[Henry4MVP]

Originally posted by coastalPT
What the hell else are super mods good for anyways?

All of them except for me are tireless behind-the-scenes workers. They put a lot of effort into moderating, moving threads, updating the BBI, and a bunch of other stuff. Thank them (and the rest of the moderators and administrators) whenever you get the chance. They bust their asses to make this place great...and the Range rocks.

On the other hand, I'm the exception to the rule. I came here for the punch and pie, and was asked to stay because I'm dead sexy.

Anyways, the Atlanta Falcons are now on the clock.

[BillsCAfan]

Atlanta chooses Marcus Tubbs DT Texas

[Henry4MVP]

The Jacksonville Jaguars are now on the clock.


















...and I'm Rick James, bitch!

[gonzo1105]

1.San Diego................Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2.Oakland...................Robert Gallery OT Iowa
3.Arizona.....................Kellen Winslow Jr. TE Miami
4.NYG..........................Ben Roethlessburger QB Miami (Ohio)
5.Washington..............Sean Taylor S Miami
6.Detroit......................Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
7.Cleveland.................DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech
8.Atlanta......................Roy Williams WR Texas
9.Jacksonville...............Keneche Udeze DE USC
10.Tampa Bay..............Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma
11.Pittsburgh................Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
12.NY Jets....................Mike Williams WR USC
13.Buffalo.....................Reggie Williams WR Washington
14.Tennessee...............Vince Wilfork DT Miami
15.Houston...................Will Smith DE Ohio State
16.San Francisco...........Shawn Andrews OT Arkansas
17.Denver.....................Steven Jackson RB Oregon State
18.New Orleans............Jonathan Vilma ILB Miami
19.Minnesota................Chris Gamble CB Ohio State
20.Miami........................Vernon Carey OG Miami
21.New England............Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech
22.Houston....................Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma
23.Seattle......................Randy Starks DT Maryland
24.Chicago.....................Darnell Dockett DT Florida State
25.Green Bay.................Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina
26.Indianapolis..............D.J Williams LB Miami
27.Cincinnati..................Sean Jones S Georgia
28.Philadelphia..............Will Poole CB Southern Cal
29.Oakland....................Karlos Dansby LB Auburn
30.Kansas City..............Antwan Odom DE Alabama
31.Carolina...................Lee Evens WR Wisconson
32.New England...........Michael Boulware FSU
Round 2
33.Arizona.....................Maurice Clarett RB Ohio State
34.N.Y. Giants...............Jake Grove C Virginia Tech
35.San Diego................Ben Troupe TE Florida
36.Detroit......................Chris Perry RB Michigan
37.Cleveland.................Michael Clayton WR LSU
38.Atlanta.....................Marcus Tubbs DT Texas
39.Jacksonville
40.Dallas
41.Denver
42.Tennessee
43.Buffalo
44.Pittsburgh
45.St. Louis
46.San Francisco
47.Chicago
48.New Orleans
49.Chicago
50.Minnesota
51.Baltimore
52.Dallas
53.Seattle
54.Denver
55.Green Bay
56.New England
57.Cincinnati
58.Philadelphia
59.Indianapolis
60.New Orleans
61.Kansas City
62.Carolina
63.New England

[Mehser]

Originally posted by Henry4MVP
I came here for the punch and pie, and was asked to stay because I'm dead sexy.

Hmmmmmm.

OK. If you think so. I won't bust your dreams too badly.

[Mouldsie]

im back home for the first time since sat april 3rd... no more missed times and such for me

[gonzo1105]

I wish Coastal would get on to make his pick!!!! lol

[coastal]

Originally posted by Henry4MVP
All of them except for me are tireless behind-the-scenes workers. They put a lot of effort into moderating, moving threads, updating the BBI, and a bunch of other stuff. Thank them (and the rest of the moderators and administrators) whenever you get the chance. They bust their asses to make this place great...and the Range rocks.

On the other hand, I'm the exception to the rule. I came here for the punch and pie, and was asked to stay because I'm dead sexy.

Anyways, the Atlanta Falcons are now on the clock.

OK! Settle down sparky! I love the range too. It actually is part of my life as pathetic as that may sound, and I really do appreciate all the hard work the super cops and admins do. That being said, the Jacksonville Jaguars after a nice bender at a beach bar select Rashaun Woods, WR from Oklahoma State. Or LSU depending upon how many bong hits you have had with swami.

By the way Henry, if your girlfriend is sore tonight and not interested, I'm sorry.

[gonzo1105]

Alright Dallas is on the clock!!!!!!(CJBS)

[CJBS]

finally Jones gets a pick in this years draft and choses Greg Jones RB FSU.


Bill is very excited, lost out on a top corner that he had hopped would be here still. will focus efforts in that area but coveted Jones a lot after the Senior Bowl. is very excited about the running game now.

[gonzo1105]

With the 41st pick in this years draft the Denver Broncos select:


Ben Watson TE Georgia


Analysis: Watson is an excellent TE and we felt with a little work can become a dominant tight end in this league. WR was also an option but with Sharpe possibly not coming back we needed to fill this need