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RyDorf
February 11th, 2004, 3:41:07 PM
Today it was made offical that he is entering the draft. Does anyone think that he will go in the first round before 13? Moving someone that would originally be gone, down to 13? If so, who could we get now that we couldn't before?:hmmm:

pigskin
February 11th, 2004, 3:54:57 PM
I am not doubting you but where did you see that? Last I had heard the NFL was appealing and Clarrett hasn't declared yet.

MidnightVoice
February 11th, 2004, 3:59:52 PM
It is on ESPN.com's front page, but at the moment I can't get the link to work :)

billpa
February 11th, 2004, 4:01:51 PM
He won't go that high but it could still push someone to us in the second round.

MidnightVoice
February 11th, 2004, 4:03:45 PM
http://www.foxsports.com/content/view?contentId=2135474

.S. District Judge Shira Scheindlin ruled the NFL would not suffer irreparable harm if Clarett and other underclassmen are allowed to participate in April's draft.

Maurice Clarett's going to be in the draft," his attorney Alan Milstein announced right after the decision.

Scheindlin rejected NFL arguments that she must suspend the effect of last week's ruling in which she concluded that an NFL rule barring eligibility to Clarett and other young athletes violates antitrust laws.

"Contrary to the NFL's argument, most of the rules governing this case were established decades ago," she said, adding that none of her findings were based on novel legal theories.

"Indeed, the legal framework for that decision was laid in a long line of Supreme Court precedent," Scheindlin said.

She said the NFL's concern that younger players might over-train or resort to steroid use to better qualify for the draft "makes no sense" in arguing for a stay since players must announce they are entering the draft by March 1.

dwightdrane
February 11th, 2004, 4:05:41 PM
unless he runs an incredible 40 at the combine or lifes like 1000 pounds or is seen by GM's that he is an awesome kid, do not expect him to go in the top 13. Top 30 maybe? I think top of the 2nd round.

MidnightVoice
February 11th, 2004, 4:05:45 PM
And Mel Kipper says:

Should the court ruling declaring Maurice Clarett eligible for the draft be upheld, the Ohio State sophomore looks like no more than a second-round pick. Clarett had a heck of a freshman year in 2002 (1,237 yards, 5.6 ypc, 16 TDs) but missed three entire games and parts of others with injuries. Durability is a question, as is the fact that he has not played football for more than a year. Clarett has the talent to rate among the top backs available, but talented running backs like Steven Jackson, Kevin Jones and Chris Perry are coming off stellar seasons and still rank ahead of Clarett.

Peacec
February 11th, 2004, 4:12:48 PM
Originally posted by RyDorf
Clarrett offically in the Draft How does this affect the Bills?

It doesn't.

LVBillsfan
February 11th, 2004, 4:33:52 PM
He had one season and he was unable to show it wasn't a fluke. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't go until the later rounds or went undrafted. He is a pretty small back as well. I definitely don't see him affecting us.

pigskin
February 11th, 2004, 4:45:47 PM
Small back?

He is 5-11 - 220.

He is built like a truck.

I wouldn't consider that small.

Travis Henry is 5-9 - 215.

BillsCAfan
February 11th, 2004, 4:49:37 PM
Originally posted by LVBillsfan
He had one season and he was unable to show it wasn't a fluke. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't go until the later rounds or went undrafted. He is a pretty small back as well. I definitely don't see him affecting us.

No way he goes undrafted. He will go in the top 3 rounds. If McGahee can show he is a top quality running back in two years and be projected to go in top 3 picks ....then one year of playing at a high level will lank Clarett at least in the top 96 picks, without a doubt.

dwightdrane
February 11th, 2004, 4:51:16 PM
small back??????? have you ever watched him? if anything he is oversized. helllllo! :wavey:

Merk
February 11th, 2004, 5:17:21 PM
It does have an effect on the Bills draft somewhat(not alot), b/c it might make a team like say Detriot (who is in need of an RB) shy away from picking one in round 1 thinking they can get one in round 2(now that there is a little depth added to the RB spot) From the mock drafts i've seen on this site alot of people are counting on at least one team ahead of us picking Steven Jackson or Kevin Jones. This will alter that a little.

35Pete
February 11th, 2004, 5:46:19 PM
Originally posted by BillsCAfan
No way he goes undrafted. He will go in the top 3 rounds. If McGahee can show he is a top quality running back in two years and be projected to go in top 3 picks ....then one year of playing at a high level will lank Clarett at least in the top 96 picks, without a doubt.

You forgot one problem. The cocky little bastard has a douchb*g of a personality. Strike one!

mighty peace warrior
February 11th, 2004, 5:54:10 PM
someone is going to get a steal in the second round.

Poz51
February 11th, 2004, 6:09:30 PM
It doesn't affect us at all. Clarett will be lucky to go in the 1st Round. Sure he had a good college football season as a freshman. But look at the picture. He's a young guy with offseason problems, an injury-plagued freshman season, has not played football in a year, and when he did play, he had one of the best offensive lines in college. He won't be touched before #13 for sure. I hope and plan on seeing him fail in the NFL.

Peacec
February 11th, 2004, 6:11:16 PM
That's the spirit!

:funnyguy:

Mouldsie
February 11th, 2004, 8:18:34 PM
Someone is going to get jipped in the 2nd round.... the kid's slow, overweight, weak (comparitavely speaking), has durability issues, and is real dumb.

mighty peace warrior
February 11th, 2004, 10:24:10 PM
Originally posted by MOULDSROCKS
Someone is going to get jipped in the 2nd round.... the kid's slow, overweight, weak (comparitavely speaking), has durability issues, and is real dumb.

ususaly i think you have good judgement on college ballplayers but i think you are off on Clarett...only time will tell. He was not slow,overweight or weak when he played. In fact he was a good combination of speed and power(with a good line mixed in in fairness)

Saying he has durability issues because he got hurt while playing as a Freshman is dumb. We aren't talking willis mcgahee and his two major knee surguries here.

I don't think you can say he is dumb because of college grades either, assuming you don't personaly know him and have nothing else to go off. He is half way articulate(again i hate to compare him to willis but...) and he had the balls to challenge a system he felt unfair(though i disagree) and it worked.

angneli
February 11th, 2004, 10:30:07 PM
Originally posted by Peacec
It doesn't.

This is totally correct.

itslonganditsgood
February 12th, 2004, 10:21:14 AM
Originally posted by MOULDSROCKS
Someone is going to get jipped in the 2nd round.... the kid's slow, overweight, weak (comparitavely speaking), has durability issues, and is real dumb.


Where do some of you guys get your information? Clarrett ran a 4.5 in the 40. He is a powerhouse. He can not only deke you out of your shoes but he can run you over. I will concur that he might have durabiliy issues but that was from one season. I will also agree that he isn't the smartest guy in the world, but have you ever heard Zach Thomas talk?

bad radio
February 12th, 2004, 10:26:34 AM
When you've already got injury problems and you're 20 years old, that's not a good sign. Especially shoulder injuries. Clarett is going to bomb in the NFL. Whoever takes him, regardless of the round, will be making a huge mistake.

mighty peace warrior
February 12th, 2004, 1:11:59 PM
Originally posted by bad radio
When you've already got injury problems and you're 20 years old, that's not a good sign. Especially shoulder injuries. Clarett is going to bomb in the NFL. Whoever takes him, regardless of the round, will be making a huge mistake.

again rediculous. There is always a good chance an 18 year old playing running back in the Big-10, especially with the number of carries per game he was getting, is going to get injured. How does this make him injury prone? He was injured once!!

this injury prone fat, slow talk is all just hating. You guys don't like him, that doesn't mean he won't make it.

I would be more worried about Mcgahee than Clarett his injury was much more severe than anything Clarett has ever had.

NO way he bombs. He may not be the next HOF back but he will be good.

dogginbox
February 12th, 2004, 1:17:51 PM
the highest he'll go is the 3rd rd even then if he does get drafted, he'll still have to make the team he is drafted by imo i think he's too young mentally and physically

we can only hope someone would be stupid enough to draft him higher than the 3rd rd

bad radio
February 12th, 2004, 1:37:17 PM
Physically, in terms of size and strength, most experts say this is one kid that is ready. But Clarett couldn't make it through an 11 game schedule, and as tough as the Big Ten is, it is nothing compared to what he's going to see in the NFL. You have to be more durable than that.

Maybe he can be a decent backup, but I would not want my team to take him with any sort of plan to make him a starter. He'll never be able to survive 300 - 350 carries a year.

mighty peace warrior
February 12th, 2004, 4:08:22 PM
we shall see. If i am Detroit i pick up a good WR in round one and him in round 2

ColoBillsFan
February 12th, 2004, 4:25:14 PM
Shouldn't affect the Bills' in any way.

bad radio
February 12th, 2004, 4:34:43 PM
Originally posted by mighty peace warrior
we shall see. If i am Detroit i pick up a good WR in round one and him in round 2

Yeah, we'll see.

If I was Detroit, I'd stay the hell away from Clarett. Do you realize what the fans would do if the Lions brought a Buckeye into Spartan/Wolverine land and he flopped? You think we were in a state of mutiny this year, Detroit would look like it just got hit with a New England-style Superbowl celebration. They'd be a lot smarter to take Kevin Jones or Stephen Jackson in the first and get their #2 WR to play across from Charles Johnson later in the draft. Even Chris Perry would be a safer pick.

EvilBigD
February 12th, 2004, 4:56:17 PM
Why would this piece of you know what affect the Bills they only draft charcacter guys, not guys that are characters!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mouldsie
February 15th, 2004, 2:16:21 PM
I don't think he'll be very good. Clarett = William Green.