View Full Version : Draft A QB in the 1st Round?? Shut up already
35Pete
January 29th, 2004, 12:47:43 PM
What a waste of a pick if we draft a QB in the 1st round. Rookie QB's always struggle in their 1st-2nd years. Do you want to wait?
Why not develop a QB using a 3rd round pick? This draft is deep at QB. We have much more pressing needs at WR, DE, OL. Like it or not Drew will be our QB next year, not some wet behind the ears rookie. Rivers is a wasted pick in the 1st. Granted, he is an amazing college QB, but there is no guarantee that he will succeed in the NFL. Also, 1st rounder QB's traditionally carry a high bust potential with them.
I say grab a DE in the first, an OL guy in the second and a QB of the future in the 3rd. If you think that a rookie Qb will start this year than you are dreaming.
bad radio
January 29th, 2004, 1:04:37 PM
if you're drafting a "QB for the Future", why not spend a 1st round pick on a guy that's really good? IMO, no rookie should start at QB ever, today's game is too much of a jump for 99.9% of QBs. I don't even think we should change QBs this year, I think we should see what happens with Drew.
Good QBs are hard to come by and when you have an opportunity to take a guy like, for instance, Phil Rivers it's a much smarter pick than a guy like Schaub or Cody Pickett in the 3rd. Rivers is rated high because he's good; those other guys are rated as 3rd rounders because they have serious question marks. If you're going to take a QB, take one as high as you can, one who might have more potential than a risky later round pick. Every player in the draft is a risk, and no player is guaranteed to make an immediate impact anyway. There are just as many first round busts at the DE position as there are at QB.
freedomfrypizza
January 29th, 2004, 1:18:11 PM
Better to pick Rivers, than to see the Fins pick him.
35Pete
January 29th, 2004, 1:29:57 PM
I disagree that you have to pick a QB with as high a pick as possible. Joe Montana was a 2nd round pick. Tom Brady was a 6th. Servicable QB's are fine in today's NFL. Defense wins championships, not quarterbacks. Where are Peyton Manning's Colts or Steve McNair's Titans right now? How about mcNabb and company. Trent Green?
sfoote
January 29th, 2004, 3:03:40 PM
Yes, we all know defensive ends taken in the 1st round never struggle, they always pan out. And Montana went in the 3rd round.
Damyankee
January 29th, 2004, 3:21:14 PM
I'm High on rivers too, but I think the more prudent thing to do would be to trde down a few spots pick up some extra picks and draft a WR. BTW how many DEs is TD going to draft in the first two rounds during his tenure here? Shobel (sp), Denney, Kelsey
35Pete
January 29th, 2004, 4:45:56 PM
We'll need to draft those damm DE's until TD gets one that works! *ROFL*
Sparx
January 29th, 2004, 4:48:41 PM
Originally posted by 35Pete
I disagree that you have to pick a QB with as high a pick as possible. Joe Montana was a 2nd round pick. Tom Brady was a 6th. Servicable QB's are fine in today's NFL. Defense wins championships, not quarterbacks. Where are Peyton Manning's Colts or Steve McNair's Titans right now? How about mcNabb and company. Trent Green?
they were all in the playoffs, thats where they were. would you seriously take a qb with your first rounder when roy and reggie williams were still available? think about it. bledsoe has the arm, he has the accuracy, now he needs a WR on the other side of moulds.
kdhammond
January 29th, 2004, 6:26:49 PM
Originally posted by 35Pete
I disagree that you have to pick a QB with as high a pick as possible. Joe Montana was a 2nd round pick. Tom Brady was a 6th. Servicable QB's are fine in today's NFL. Defense wins championships, not quarterbacks. Where are Peyton Manning's Colts or Steve McNair's Titans right now? How about mcNabb and company. Trent Green?
I understand your point, but you can also find good players at
any other position beyond the first round, too. If you look around, I am sure we can come up with examples of later round picks who have excelled at every position.
I'd still wager that there are more starting QBs in the NFL that were #1 picks than not. The idea is that QB is probably the most important position on a team. The idea in the draft is that there is a higher probability of finding future stars earlier in the draft than later. So, put the two together and it makes sense to consider committing a #1 to a QB.
That being said, I almost always believe taking the best player available in each round is the way to go.
35Pete
January 29th, 2004, 6:37:50 PM
Well said Mr Sparkle, well said.
35Pete
January 29th, 2004, 6:55:03 PM
I remember 2 yrs ago when everyone was having orgasms over the thought of drafting Joey Harrington. WOW, what an impact player he was last year!! (sarcasm)
coastal
January 29th, 2004, 7:12:57 PM
Hey tool! Our beloved qb has sucked for one and a half years. We better do something.
JayHall93
January 29th, 2004, 8:22:57 PM
Hey, Big guy, relax. The Bills need a strong possibility for a future QB, not a 3rd round project.
1968_bills_fan
January 29th, 2004, 8:53:13 PM
we got a servicable QB now, if the coaches stay within what he does well. Shore up the offensive line and win the battles in the trenches. Then the QB looks better when he is standing vertical rather than horizontal and the running backs keep the LB and DL off of the all-out pass rush. Its a simple game. The SIX guys up front really make a difference. If they are great, you can almost have a smock in the backfield and still win games. :angry:
taskerfan
January 30th, 2004, 6:24:46 AM
if were all concerned about 1st rounders not contributing, try looking at WR. With the iffy 1st round pick last year, i think TD will pick someone who can contribute right away, probably a CB if good value is there, and let AW walk. Spend the cap space on an impact pass rusher, that improves the DL and DB's; two for the price of one.
Damyankee
January 30th, 2004, 8:06:05 AM
Good stategy Taskerfan. Earlier reports indicate this draft is deep at DB. Being vertically challenged myself AW holds a special place in my heart, but we need guys who can create turnovers. plus the money saved by not resigning him could go torwards trying to land someone like Kearse. Although I think we could probably keep AW for a relatively low price. The combo of quality FA DBs this year, plus a deep draft, plus AW's lack of production in the int dept. might work in the Bills' favor.
Telecom
January 30th, 2004, 5:57:17 PM
Gamble or Hall would be a good value pick if none of our designated guys fall to us and no good trade back is available.You would be getting the top CB in the draft. A trade back picking Rivers and having an extra 2nd rounder would be ideal. You could easily find CB or WR help with the extra 2nd. The extra second also gives bargaining chips to move up if someone we like is still on the board.
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