Fitzgerald a Bill?

[RobbieJ]

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/report/BUF/7026239

--The Bills are keeping close tabs on University of Pittsburgh WR Larry Fitzgerald eligibility ruling for the draft. They are in need of a talented wideout, and while they pick 13th, might consider doing whatever it takes to move up into the top 10 for a chance to grab Fitzgerald.

[bad radio]

I think that's a bad idea. Fitzgerald is overrated.

[mjg517]

not only overrated, but not necessarily the burner that we need...I would like a faster guy like Roy Williams or Reggie Williams, the ladder of the two we would not need to trade up for.

[DanBeauchesne]

I too agree he is overrated

[buffmaniac]

How is he overrated? The guy is the best WR in the draft. He consistently made big plays even when teams doubled and tripled him. But I doubt we will trade up for him. Look out for us actually trading back in the draft and picking up more picks.

[TheAnswer74]

Ill take him on my team. I personally think he is the next Jerry Rice. Now will he have Jerry Rice's career, no one knows, but he has everything else Rice has. Same type of Body, Speed, Hands, and work ethic.

He isnt the fastest guy in the world, but he will be a star in the NFL because he knows how to get open and how to go get the ball when its thrown his way. He doesnt need speed, because he uses his size and strength to beat the CB.

If people are going to post about potential draft picks, atleast make your own opinion on the kid, not what you read. If you saw this guy play you would want him on the Bills in a heartbeat.

[TheGoodShepherd]

lol yea lets draft another josh reed:judge:

[TheAnswer74]

Originally posted by King Chimp
lol yea lets draft another josh reed:judge:

Was josh Reed second in the Heisman Voting.

[buffmaniac]

I said before that I felt Josh Reed reminded me a lot of Hines Ward. Now we have the offensive coach that turned Ward into a Pro-Bowl player as our head coach. Look out for a breakout season from Reed. Besides for some reason the 3rd year seems to be the year that most WRs have their big seasons. Don't write off Josh Reed yet.

[Woodstock]

I'm no college scout, but Fitzgerald is one of the best college WR prospects I've ever seen. To cite people that are real college scouts: (or at least play them on the Internet)

"Perhaps the best receiving prospect since Randy Moss"

http://www.nflfans.com/draft/2004/showplayer.php?key=Larry%20Fitzgerald**

Having said that, I don't see the Bills trading up for him either. They'd have to give up too much, take on the big salary of a #2 pick, etc. In this case it's hard to imagine the scenario where it all plays out.

I'm not as down on Josh Reed as most seem to be. Three years to develop is a good rule of thumb for NFL WRs. It's only the cream of the crop that can really produce as rookies or second-year guys. Give Reed a full season under Mularkey and I think he'll be a productive player.

[zevo]

Originally posted by King Chimp
lol yea lets draft another josh reed:judge:

wow complete ignorance and stupidity!

anyway, I think Fitz is overrated, I'd rather trade up for Roy williams.

[UK_BillsFan]

I don't know very much about Fitzgerald and the other receivers in this draft as of yet, but it can only be a good thing that Fitzgerald has declared that he will enter this draft as now even if we stay at 13 we are more likely to get a better prospect at receiver than we would have done if he were not in the draft. He will bump all the wr prospects behind him down a notch, sending a better one to us at 13 than would otherwise be there. I'm still not certain we will take a WR, I think we only will if there is a steal available or if we are really high on someone, then we might trade up to get him.

[bad radio]

I saw some stats that showed how the offense directed something like 55% of their plays towards him. I'm not sure of the actual stats, but the point is he got more touches than every other player on the team combined. To me, if you are getting the ball that much, you had better be putting up the numbers he did. There are a lot of WR's in college that could have done as much or more if they were given the opportunities he was given.

[BronxBomber7]

Geeeez, maybe we can get the Mayor of Pittsburgh and the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra and a coulpe of those really attractive yellow bridges that you can see in the outfield of PNC Park!

Is there ANYTHING Donahoe ever looks at that DOESN'T have a God-forsaken Pittsburgh connection???? ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!

[Psychosis]

Yes I even heard that Buffalo likes Rod Rutherford. If Travis and Mcgahee weren't on this team, I wouldn't be surprised if TD traded for Curtin Martin. Anyway, I haven't seen Fitz play very much, but there sure is a bunch of hype surrounding him. If we're going to take a receiver in the 1st round, may it be Michael Jenkins. He's the 2nd fastest of the tallest receivers in the draft. What this offense needs is another playmaker with speed. Jenkins provides clutch playmaking abilty.

[BillsCAfan]

NOO!!

I WANT ROY WILLIAMS!

Fitzgerald is projected going 2nd to the Raiders...which I think is dumb. He is overrated. I absolutely do not want to trade up to the #2 spot, have to pay Fitzgerald #2 money, and lose lots of draft picks. We'd probably have to give up our 1st, 2nd and 3rd to do that. NO WAY!!

If we are going to trade up for a player, I rather it be Manning, Williams, or Taylor.

[Max997]

Originally posted by King Chimp
lol yea lets draft another josh reed:judge:


Have you seen Fitz Play????? He is tall and impossible to cover near the goal line

[Max997]

Originally posted by King Chimp
lol yea lets draft another josh reed:judge:


Have you seen Fitz Play????? He is tall and impossible to cover near the goal line. If this is true it would be awesome, he dominated his 2 years in college

[pigpen65]

Originally posted by Max997
Have you seen Fitz Play????? He is tall and impossible to cover near the goal line. If this is true it would be awesome, he dominated his 2 years in college


That's true, but nfl corners won't be so helpless when he gets around the goaline. He's got very good hands, but he's dropped his share of freebies too. His awesome college stats are super inflated by a pass happy offense and a pitiful pittsburgh defense that kept the offense throwing to fitzgerald on at least a quarter of the plays.

[Purple Haze]

U all are buggin'. Larry Fitzgerald is not slow, not slower than Roy Williams, IMO and he's hands down the best receiver in the draft. Not the only high caliber receiver in the draft, but the best. Constant double and triple teams and he STILL made great catches and scored touchdowns.:confused2

[unklechucky]

Randy Moss isnt the speediest either, but some players just make plays and Fitz is one of them.

[truedrew]

It was reported on Boston radio that Fitzgerald is "the best player in the draft" - not just the best WR. Everyone wants him!

[BillsCAfan]

Originally posted by unklechucky
Randy Moss isnt the speediest either, but some players just make plays and Fitz is one of them.

Are you sure? I checked and Moss runs a sub 4.3 40 yard dash, which is one of the fastest at WR in the League.

Fitzgerald runs a 4.55
Williams runs a 4.3+

Williams is also taller and weighs about the same. And I think the intagiable hae to go to Williams. A lot of people are downgrading him because he was in a horrible offense, while if he came out last year he probably would have been the first WR off the board. He more mature now and has worked on his game.

IMO, he is the most polished, talented WR in the draft and is more ready to play at the NFL level than any other WR.

[TheAnswer74]

Im sorry, but Roy Williams is the most overrated player. He is alot like David Terrell when he came out of Michigan.

Roy WIlliams drops too many balls. He doesnt help Texas win the big games.

He didnt do nothing against the best Defenses in the Big 12 Kansas State, OU, Nebraska, and Texas A&M.

He is over hYped.

[orthy]

Originally posted by buffmaniac
I said before that I felt Josh Reed reminded me a lot of Hines Ward. Now we have the offensive coach that turned Ward into a Pro-Bowl player as our head coach. Look out for a breakout season from Reed. Besides for some reason the 3rd year seems to be the year that most WRs have their big seasons. Don't write off Josh Reed yet.

could not agree more....

[orthy]

Originally posted by unklechucky
Randy Moss isnt the speediest either, but some players just make plays and Fitz is one of them.

not true about Moss...He is a burner, along with a classic everything else for that matter...

[TheAnswer74]

Moss is by far the fastest WR in the game. 4.26 i think. Dante Stallworth from NO might be faster, but Moss Plays the game faster then anyone in History.

Just to throw it in there, Willis McGahee claims he can still run at or around his 4.28 speed.

[unklechucky]

I dont go by 40 times because im not holding the clock myself. Santana moss is one of the quickest, but I doubt Randy is in the top 10. Thats not my point, I'm comparing Moss to Fitz in the fact that theyre both natural playmakers. Two players that just have "it". Has anyone seen Fitz run the fade? Unstoppable.

[Player6600]

I only saw 2 Pitt games this year and Fitzgerald was double, triple teamed the whole game and he was dominant. He has great hands, great speed, and seems like an intelligent well-rounded person.

[MiamiMasterpiece]

I agree with a lot of you. I don't think Fitzgerald will be a star in the NFL, i actually think he might be a bust. I hope not because i do like him and i hate to see people do bad, but thats just how i feel.

[Mouldsie]

Originally posted by bad radio
I saw some stats that showed how the offense directed something like 55% of their plays towards him. I'm not sure of the actual stats, but the point is he got more touches than every other player on the team combined. To me, if you are getting the ball that much, you had better be putting up the numbers he did. There are a lot of WR's in college that could have done as much or more if they were given the opportunities he was given.


MAYBE that means that teams KNEW THE BALL WAS GOING TO HIM and STILL COULD NOT STOP HIM.

Fitzgerald is unbelievable, have you guys seen him play? His hands are simply amazing. He outjumps multiple defenders to grab the ball at the right time. That is instinct. You can't just draft a "fast guy" and teach him the things that he does, like using your body for positioning, timing on jump balls, concentration, seeing the game/play unbfold and just simply knowing the exact right moment to make your move. He'll wait until the last second to adjust and catch the DB's out of position. He has an unbelievable knack for maikng any catch and getting open, espcially in the red zone.... even when the defense knows he's getting the ball. Three guys covering him? Good luck, he'll still make the play 80% of the time.



Trading up to grab him would be sweet, as long as we don't give up Henry to do it.

[Mouldsie]

Originally posted by Purple Haze
U all are buggin'. Larry Fitzgerald is not slow, not slower than Roy Williams, IMO and he's hands down the best receiver in the draft. Not the only high caliber receiver in the draft, but the best. Constant double and triple teams and he STILL made great catches and scored touchdowns.:confused2

Roy is faster. Like 4.35 speed.


Originally posted by unklechucky
Randy Moss isnt the speediest either, but some players just make plays and Fitz is one of them.

Randy's been timed at 4.25


But that doesn't mean Fitzgerald isn't good. I'd take him in a race vs Rice, Brown, Carter and Reed all in their prime. He may even be faster than Moulds who is a legit deep threat. I may even take his hands and (esp. timing of) leaping over the 4 HOFers too.

[Mouldsie]

Anquan Boldin ran a 4.75

[zanthrax54]

Originally posted by TheAnswer74
Ill take him on my team. I personally think he is the next Jerry Rice. Now will he have Jerry Rice's career, no one knows, but he has everything else Rice has. Same type of Body, Speed, Hands, and work ethic.

He isnt the fastest guy in the world, but he will be a star in the NFL because he knows how to get open and how to go get the ball when its thrown his way. He doesnt need speed, because he uses his size and strength to beat the CB.

If people are going to post about potential draft picks, atleast make your own opinion on the kid, not what you read. If you saw this guy play you would want him on the Bills in a heartbeat.

true, why does it always have to be about speed? DOES ANYONE REMEMBER ANDRE REED? Tim Brown? Cris Carter? like The Answer74 said, they were all great, but none were known as being "speen demons" good post:applause:

[shawn]

I’ve been listening to the Roy Williams hype for years. Williams is a very inconsistent player. In my opinion he will be an NFL bust. Larry Fitzgerald is the real deal. People using Roy Williams’ speed to rationalize him being a superior player need this hollow position because viewing game performance clearly confirms Fitzgerald is the better of the two players.

[pigpen65]

Fitzgerald is a very good reciever and will be a good player in the NFL. But with all the hype surrounding him he is a very overrated player. I don't think that he will be a bust in the erik flowers sense of the word, but he is not going to be the next randy moss, marvin harrison, eric moulds, or even keyshawn johnson for that matter. His stats are great but inflated by the number of plays he got. He's had a few highlight reel catches, but that doesn't warrant his current draft hype. and contrary to what many of you are claiming, he was not double and triple teamed on every play. Against the better defenses pitt played his stats were average.

[FezziwigJD]

I'm not necessarily going to comment on which WR we should take, if any. But what I do think we need to remember is that even with Peerless Price the year before last, when we played against teams who threw any decent blitz against us, we still stunk. Remember, we were only 3-5 after the halfway mark, around the time teams seemed to remember to blitz Bledsoe more frequently, and those losses generally looked pretty awful offensively. What does going 3-5 equate to over a full season? 6-10, just like we were this year. I don't think we necessarily need a speed burner as much as we need someone who can freaking get open and catch the ball. Yes, someone with speed is an asset, but the problem this year was more that Reed and Shaw were not the most adept at finding openings in the defense. Jerry Rice was never a burner for the most part, he was fast but relied more on reading the defense than anything else. I'm not writing them off, but I think with Bledsoe in the fold, we need people to be open so he can throw faster. Additionally, better playcalling may help in this department. {{PLEASE CALL MORE SCREENS NEXT YEAR, AND IF BLEDSOE HANDLE SCREENS, FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN}}

[RobbieJ]

with MouldsRocks, this guy is a stud. He adjusts and catches every poorly thrown ball with his hands. Not only that, but he positions himself where he can take it away from the DB. You can't teach that. Also, have you ever heard an interview with him?? He is the most polite, nice 19 yr. olds (guess) I have ever heard. I wouldn't be that polite if I had all this hype sorrounded me. He is very grounded and he has a great head on his shoulders. He is ready for the NFL now! I don't know if he will be one of the all-time greats, but he will most certainly make an instant impact.

That said, I don't think the Bills will get him. :(

[Henry4MVP]

Fitz is the man and Buffalo would be lucky to get him. He's an unbelievable receiver.

[Alluro]

Originally posted by TheAnswer74

Just to throw it in there, Willis McGahee claims he can still run at or around his 4.28 speed.

When did McGahee say this? post surgery? if so, that is great news ! links?

[cahippo]

It doesnt really matter. Moulds WR draft class was considered deep also. And since Moulds wasnt drafted first someone must have been a better, more sure thing. However I dont think anybody would pick differently. So with the WR prospects out there, if Buffalo doesnt get Fitz, then as long as they do there homework and they do pick a WR, we could still come out with the better pick.

[TheAnswer74]

Originally posted by Alluro
When did McGahee say this? post surgery? if so, that is great news ! links?

No Links, it was just a TV interview. He said he ran 4.28 before the injury, and still feels as fast.

[Bills41]

I watched Fitzgerald a lot this year and he is special. That said, I don't know where he will end up in the draft.

[billpa]

I would love if we traded up to get him. I haven't seen many of his games, but that NCAA record for consecutive games with a receiving TD is all I need to know. We need another real scoring threat at receiver in the red zone so teams don't focus only on Moulds.

[MidnightVoice]

I think he is a potentail great receiver, but I don't think we will trade up to get him. And quite honestly, I think Reed will improve dramatically this year (even Jerry rice didn't break out until his third year), and that we have more pressing needs than WR.

[mark1126]

He was totally shut down against Miami and did not show up..anyone see this and have concerns??

[Tigerbenna]

Originally posted by TheAnswer74
Ill take him on my team. I personally think he is the next Jerry Rice. Now will he have Jerry Rice's career, no one knows, but he has everything else Rice has. Same type of Body, Speed, Hands, and work ethic.

He isnt the fastest guy in the world, but he will be a star in the NFL because he knows how to get open and how to go get the ball when its thrown his way. He doesnt need speed, because he uses his size and strength to beat the CB.

If people are going to post about potential draft picks, atleast make your own opinion on the kid, not what you read. If you saw this guy play you would want him on the Bills in a heartbeat.

AMEN brotha....hes sick! Plus if they somehow work travis into a trade, we might be able to keep the 13th pick or some form of another first rounder....WR is definitely the top need

[35Pete]

Let's draft another RB....

[bps21]

There isn't a running back who hhas top 3 talent in this years draft.

I often wonder why people can be surprised we took a chance on McGahee when Henry was coming off ELEVEN FUMBLES that year.

[Smapdi]

I'd rather we draft Jenkins in the 2nd and take a more pressing need in the 1st (could even trade down). Maybe Udeze or a guy like Carney if we trade down.

[2004Draft]

Fitz is a really good receiver. Period. Intangibles. He's got em. I think he will be a solid, possession receiver in the NFL.

But does Buffalo really need to go after a receiver with their 1st pick? And trade away their picks to do it?

No way Jose. Good things will fall to the 13th pick. Patience TD...