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Bills Addict
November 15th, 2003, 11:44:20 AM
from: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1661233


Stadium to help New York Olympic bid

ESPN.com news services

The New York Jets, who have been playing across the Hudson River in Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J., for 19 years, are expected to announce in the next two months that it will build a $1 billion, retractable-dome stadium on Manhattan's West Side, according to BusinessWeek.


The stadium would be a big boost to New York's bid to host the 2012 Olympics. Under owner Robert Wood "Woody" Johnson IV, an heir to the Johnson & Johnson fortune, the Jets will pay for the bulk of the project, with taxpayers footing a still-undetermined bill for infrastructure, including transportation upgrades, reports the magazine.


The new stadium, which will also serve as a convention center and arena, will be built on a platform to be constructed over Midtown rail yards between Penn Station and the Hudson River on Manhattan's West Side. The NFL would provide some financing through a special loan program for new stadium construction. A proposal for a West Side stadium was first backed publicly by former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani in the late 1990s, when the Yankees were threatening to abandon the Big Apple. Mayor Michael Bloomberg was less enthusiastic at first but, along with Governor George Pataki, he has since embraced the idea, hoping it will help win the Olympic games and even possibly a Super Bowl.


The International Olympics Committee will vote on the site for the 2012 games in 2005.


According to BusinessWeek, city officials have estimated that such a complex could eventually generate $2 billion a year in new tax revenues. Nearly 70 percent of those attending Jets games would use public transportation to get to the stadium, according to economic development officials. Spokespersons for the Jets, Bloomberg, and Pataki declined to comment about an announcement, but BusinessWeek sources say Jets President Jay Cross, hired in 2000 to help get a stadium deal done, has made great strides in recent months. Cross helped the National Basketball Association's Toronto Raptors and Miami Heat build new arenas. A Manhattan stadium announcement could come before the end of the NFL season in January, say sources. The Jets would play their first season in Manhattan in 2009 under the plan, reports BusinessWeek. The team's lease at Giants Stadium in the New Jersey Meadowlands complex expires in 2008. Earlier this year the Jets opted out of participating in a $300 million renovation of that stadium.


Struggling this year with a 3-6 record, the Jets made the AFC playoffs last year, but have made only one Super Bowl appearance -- a dramatic victory in 1969 -- in their 40-year history. Under owner Johnson, the team now hopes a return to Gotham will change the course of history.

FrankieA
November 15th, 2003, 11:52:54 AM
Getting out of there shouldn't be hell after a game, a co-worker of mine who is a New York fan told me it would cost a half a billion dollars to clean up the old yard before a shovel is even put into the ground, plus with the taxpayers paying an "undetermined" amount not yet settled, I'm not sold this will work.

TITUS
November 15th, 2003, 3:48:24 PM
Hmm . . . guess we won't be able to call them the "New Jersey Jets" anymore . . . I like how they said the taxpayers will foot an "undetermined" amount of the bill - they might as well have just said "majority."

FrankieA
November 15th, 2003, 4:21:45 PM
Originally posted by TITUS
Hmm . . . guess we won't be able to call them the "New Jersey Jets" anymore . . . I like how they said the taxpayers will foot an "undetermined" amount of the bill - they might as well have just said "majority."

Perhaps you should have read my post :rolleyes:

kfman87
November 15th, 2003, 4:53:04 PM
Originally posted by TITUS
Hmm . . . guess we won't be able to call them the "New Jersey Jets" anymore . . . I like how they said the taxpayers will foot an "undetermined" amount of the bill - they might as well have just said "majority."


We can still say, "J-E-T-S suck suck suck!!"

John
November 15th, 2003, 10:14:33 PM
Aretractible dome built OVER a railyard . . .

Wow.

Time will tell if they can actually move this forward. I wonder if they would play baseball there too . . .

admarc
November 15th, 2003, 10:23:23 PM
No, they would use for conventions and the Olympics if NY gets the bid, but not baseball. The Yankees and Mets have deals to build new stadiums with the City and State, but both projects are on hold due to the City and States fiscal woes. The West side project is a higher priority for the Mayor, who backs a plan to rebuild the West side, expand the Convention center and ultimately win the Olymbic bid for 2012. The Jets offer to "pay" for the Stadium will help politically, but the main expense will come from the necessity to extend a subway line to the West side. The plan calls for no stadium parking lots, making game day tailgating dificult.

Bills Addict
November 16th, 2003, 4:49:02 AM
Seeing as how most teams who play in old, outdated stadiums (Cards, 49ers, Jets, Saints, Chargers, Cowboys) have plans for new stadiums in the near future, I wonder what the future for the Buffalo Bills at Ralph Wilson Stadium is. Although there were some renovations done to the lower bowl, boxes added, etc., the Ralph is still an outdated stadium that still needs major renovations to be competative with newer stadiums. Whoever becomes the Bills owner once Ralph Wilson passes away is going to demand a major overhaul of the current stadium or a brand new one. If this doesn't happen I have a bad feeling that the Buffalo Bills will be history.

TheBillsDog
November 16th, 2003, 11:26:43 AM
A 1 Billion dollar Stadium.
Takes me back to when the naysayers were crying about subsidizing 23 million for HSBC arena with taxpayer money.
Maybe next time everyone won't think so small.

NoCtUrNaL
November 16th, 2003, 12:38:10 PM
I say the owners should build thier own playpens.

No tax money used, no tax abatements.

Don't like it? See ya.

mark3274
November 16th, 2003, 12:53:06 PM
A new stadium for the bills---would be cool but with western new york in bad shape economically do not know if it could ever happen-- if and its a big if the bills ever did get the chance to build new a retractable dome In my opinion would be the thing to do.... as for the jets well good for them ...

Denverbillsfan
November 16th, 2003, 2:45:18 PM
Originally posted by NoCtUrNaL
I say the owners should build thier own playpens.

No tax money used, no tax abatements.

Don't like it? See ya.

Exactly, I never have understood why taxpayers have to pay for these building especially when they don't get free tickets to see the game. Thats like paying for a home and still having to pay rent to go in. Let the owners or the NFL itself pay for them.

wagoncircler
November 16th, 2003, 7:24:17 PM
I may be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure Erie County has gotten all of the conessions at Rich/Ralph Wilson Stadium since it opened in 1973. Seems like a pretty wise investment.

And if you can spend 1 Billion on a facility that will generate 2 Billion per year, this would seem pretty sound as well.

MR. GIBBERISH
November 17th, 2003, 10:33:54 PM
It ain't gonna happen. NYC is too drained economically.

StraightJ
November 18th, 2003, 10:04:16 PM
I agree. The owners should foot the bill on this. It does sound like it would ne nice, though.
J