Rob's QB rating is higher than Drew's! (this isnt a joke)

[StraightJ]

***Yes folks, you read it correctly, our beloved QB is rated lower than the hated Rob Johnson!(mods, my intent is to mention an ex Bill and a current Bill, not to critique the whole NFL, so please dont move it unless it gets too dumb). Yes, I hear you when you exclaim that he has had much less opportunities than Drew. But who can honestly know that he wouldn't maintain his average or do even better? Don't feel bad, Rob's also a higher rated QB than Quincy Carter, Trent Green, Tom Brady, Tim Couch, Rich Gannon, Jay Fiedler, and Jeff Garcia! Again, I am no RJ fan, although I admit to enjoying poking fun at the hate-filled people who overreacted to his out of context and misquoted comments lately. Here's the rating list, not in it's entirety. Alex Van Pelt is in dead last, if you were curious.
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Player Team G Att Att/G Cmp Pct Yds Yds/G Lng TDs Int Sck SckY Rate
Gus Frerotte MIN 6 64 10.7 38 59.4 690 111.3 72 7 2 5 22 119.9
Doug Pederson GB 7 1 0.1 1 100.0 14 2.0 14 0 0 0 0 118.8
Daunte Culpepper MIN 4 95 23.8 61 64.2 791 188.2 59 7 0 8 38 114.8
Todd Bouman NO 2 9 4.5 5 55.6 62 31.0 19 1 0 0 0 114.1
Trent Dilfer SEA 1 2 2.0 2 100.0 20 20.0 14 0 0 0 0 108.3
Steve McNair TEN 7 205 29.3 130 63.4 1791 245.4 50 12 2 13 73 106.8
Tim Rattay SF 3 20 6.7 13 65.0 161 47.3 37 1 0 2 19 106.5
Tony Banks HOU 2 11 5.5 7 63.6 51 25.5 12 1 0 0 0 104.7
Peyton Manning IND 6 203 33.8 139 68.5 1593 260.5 79 12 5 4 30 101.3
Danny Kanell DEN 1 18 18.0 12 66.7 104 104.0 20 1 0 0 0 100.2
Brad Johnson TB 6 224 37.3 146 65.2 1596 264.5 75 13 6 3 9 94.3
Jake Plummer DEN 5 131 26.2 80 61.1 903 175.0 44 8 3 5 28 92.5
Koy Detmer PHI 6 3 0.5 2 66.7 25 4.2 15 0 0 0 0 92.4
Marc Bulger STL 5 180 36.0 119 66.1 1333 255.0 39 10 7 8 58 90.3
Aaron Brooks NO 7 215 30.7 131 60.9 1508 205.7 69 10 4 12 68 89.8
Mark Brunell JAC 3 82 27.3 54 65.9 484 146.0 65 2 0 9 46 89.7
Billy Volek TEN 3 11 3.7 7 63.6 111 32.7 50 1 1 2 13 89.6
Brett Favre GB 7 224 32.0 151 67.4 1529 212.6 36 13 9 6 41 89.3
Vinny Testaverde NYJ 6 187 31.2 116 62.0 1273 204.2 61 6 2 6 48 88.4
Jon Kitna CIN 6 204 34.0 126 61.8 1438 221.0 82 9 6 15 112 85.4
Matt Hasselbeck SEA 6 174 29.0 101 58.0 1215 187.3 66 8 4 16 91 85.3
Rob Johnson WAS 2 7 3.5 5 71.4 39 12.0 14 0 0 3 15 84.8
Quincy Carter DAL 6 176 29.3 103 58.5 1367 216.8 54 7 5 12 66 84.6
Trent Green KC 7 204 29.1 122 59.8 1562 214.1 67 9 7 10 63 84.2
Drew Bledsoe BUF 7 222 31.7 135 60.8 1595 206.6 54 6 5 20 149 82.3
Jake Delhomme CAR 6 162 27.0 96 59.3 1053 165.2 67 7 5 10 62 80.1
Tim Couch CLE 4 111 27.8 72 64.9 717 167.2 71 4 4 8 48 80.0
Kurt Warner STL 1 54 54.0 34 63.0 342 304.0 37 1 1 6 38 79.4
Tom Brady NE 7 221 31.6 133 60.2 1462 190.7 82 8 7 16 127 78.7
Byron Leftwich JAC 5 119 23.8 71 59.7 947 182.4 84 5 6 7 35 78.0
Patrick Ramsey WAS 7 237 33.9 130 54.9 1633 213.9 48 8 6 22 136 77.2
Tommy Maddox PIT 6 211 35.2 131 62.1 1486 227.7 50 5 8 20 120 75.3
Rich Gannon OAK 7 225 32.1 125 55.6 1274 169.1 46 6 4 17 90 73.5
David Carr HOU 6 195 32.5 114 58.5 1421 226.5 78 5 8 10 62 72.6
Jay Fiedler MIA 6 167 27.8 95 56.9 1115 179.0 57 6 7 8 41 71.8
Jeff Garcia SF 7 211 30.1 116 55.0 1370 188.4 75 8 8 12 51 71.8
Brock Huard IND 1 2 2.0 1 50.0 13 13.0 13 0 0 0 0 70.8
Jeff Blake ARI 6 172 28.7 101 58.7 1142 182.3 71 7 9 8 48 70.4
Kelly Holcomb CLE 4 123 30.8 73 59.3 641 146.8 27 5 5 6 54 69.9
Kerry Collins NYG 6 254 42.3 147 57.9 1507 241.8 77 7 9 11 56 69.5
Drew Brees SD 6 209 34.8 120 57.4 1211 188.7 46 7 8 9 79 69.3
Doug Johnson ATL 6 168 28.0 97 57.7 1158 176.8 63 6 10 16 97 66.0
Shaun King TB 2 7 3.5 4 57.1 24 8.0 11 0 0 1 8 64.0
Charlie Batch PIT 2 6 3.0 3 50.0 25 12.5 11 0 0 0 0 61.1
Chad Hutchinson DAL 1 2 2.0 1 50.0 8 8.0 8 0 0 0 0 60.4
Kyle Boller BAL 6 152 25.3 80 52.6 845 127.3 73 4 7 14 81 58.7
Joey Harrington DET 6 208 34.7 106 51.0 1050 171.7 43 7 10 4 20 56.8
Rohan Davey NE 1 7 7.0 3 42.9 31 31.0 16 0 0 0 0 56.3
Kordell Stewart CHI 5 144 28.8 75 52.1 745 129.4 49 4 7 18 98 56.0
Marques Tuiasosopo OAK 3 34 11.3 19 55.9 259 84.0 35 0 2 1 7 55.9

[TRIPLE P]

so, rob is umemployed

[bv]

http://www.islandcolors.biz/lameass.gif

[The Beef]

One of the most pointless threads I've seen here. What's Rob's career Win/Loss record??

[StraightJ]

Many of us have been unemployed, but it doesnt mean we weren't good workers or people.

BV, you call the thread lame but you didnt mind the threads that said purely negative things about Rob. Isnt that a bit 2 faced? Come on, this was a joke guys.
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[finsrclowns]

Another reason to discount the value of QB rating. By the way, based on QB rating Koy Detmer's 2 for 3 for 25 yards trumps Rob's 5 for 7 for 39 yards. No wonder the Eagles fans are clamoring to see Detmer on the field! If you just project his 2/3 out over a whole season...

[StraightJ]

And who's to say Detmer wouldnt do better than McNabb currently is? ....come on, I wasn't being serious with this. I think a running back(Tomlinson?) actually leads the league. I dont know if there there is a minimum number of attempts like the minimum number of at bats in baseball, but there should be. I thought I made it specific that I didnt think Rob was even near the QB Drew is. FPF, this isnt an attack on Drew lovers, just some good-natured humor to quiet down the Rob haters. Nothing more, nothing less. I thought I was taking this board too seriously.... lol
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[bv]

Let it go dude.. Rob Johnson is out of Buffalo... He is now out of the NFL. Again, I enjoyed seeing Rob sacked 3 times in Buffalo, but I don't hate him as a person. I don't even know him. I'll say something nice about him though, not many Qb's took a beating like he did. Though he could have avoided alot of the shots he took by throwing the ball away, he sure took some huge hits. Just like one of the toughest players Buffalo ever had, Jim Kelly.

A good QB rating doesnt mean youre a good Qb. Qb rating are deceptive jut like other stats in football. For example, taking a sack doesn't harm your QB rating, but throwing an interception does. Then you have to consider other factors like the amount of games played, or how many career TD passes the QB had. Look at the ratings for some of the great QB's, like Kelly, Elway, and Marino. The important stats is Wins and Losses.

[wagoncircler]

Next week Rob will have a better average at bagging groceries without breaking any eggs.

Or should I say SACKing groceries?

[StraightJ]

Don't leave out the Rob did a lot of charity work. From all accounts I've heard, he was a lot more decent than a lot of NFL players are today. I can understand if you want to hate the player, but like on here sometimes, it seems to be getting too personal. I like AVP, but I wouldn't mind an upgrade for our backup spot. :)
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[bortz]

Tried PM'ing you straightj but your mailbox is full and won't accept any more mail.

[Ed]

Am I reading that correctly? Rob has been sacked 3 times and only has 7 pass attempts? Way to go Rob. Man, I was a huge RJ supporter too. Thank god for Drew.

[ANG]

If I'm reading this correct, Drew's thrown for 1595 yards compared to 39 yards, which obviously means Rob's played like maybe one quarter of a game, how anyone can even compare QB ratings based on the difference in time played is beyond me. This has got to be one of the worst stat comparisons I've ever seen.

[TITUS]

Originally posted by StraightJ
Don't leave out the Rob did a lot of charity work. From all accounts I've heard, he was a lot more decent than a lot of NFL players are today. I can understand if you want to hate the player, but like on here sometimes, it seems to be getting too personal. I like AVP, but I wouldn't mind an upgrade for our backup spot. :)
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Big deal . . . Doug Flutie did a lot of charity work, too - I don't hear much of a clamor for him . . . RJ's gone, let's leave him on the same scrap heap as Ferragamo, Collins, etc. . . BTW, how's Flutie's career QB rating? I believe its higher than Rob's . . .

[StraightJ]

I guess a merge is in order. Although I am assuming this Rob stuff will die a nice, quick death now. Do we have any other former players on our schedule this year? lol
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[wagoncircler]

It might die a nice, quick death if you quit starting RJ-worship threads.

[StraightJ]

I just read that RJ's lifetime rating was also higher than Kelly's, Rich Gannon's and a few others, and that is considering all the sacks he took. I'm not a huge RJ fan, but I do find it amazing.
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[wagoncircler]

Try comparing their Won-Loss records.

[CircleTheWagons]

I can't believe Denver is looking to pick up this guy. What really irks me is that he played in ZERO superbowls and has a superbowl ring. Kelly played in 4 and has none.

[wagoncircler]

Your choice of a name is pretty lame, bro.

[JoeMama]

I'd be shocked if Denver signed Rob Johnson.

I think its painfully clear that "the dude" can't handle the west coast offense. Quick decisions ain't his forte'.

Still, he's a good guy and I hope he succeeds at some point.

[Fogwrestler]

rob johnson had the pocket awareness of a gnat

he SUCKED, in the overall, larger sense of the word.

[StraightJ]

Guys, when I started this thread(and the other one, which disappeared without a ridirect, so I thought it was erased, and started another), it was just as a novelty. I believe I even said so at least once, probably more. I just figured stating the simple fact would rile a lot of Rob haters up, and it did. Heck it got moved here, and without a redirect, so apparently it riled up a moderator as well. For whoever told me to stop posting RJ threads, I cant remember when I did it, but it wasnt extremely recently. Furthermore, if people can post numerous threads and a mountain of posts bashing the guy, I figure I can post a neutral or postive thread about him. If anything can be learned by this(besides the hatred some people harbor), it's that the QB rating system needs work.
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[Fogwrestler]

Tampa Bay is considering bringing him back, he was so awesome.

ROB WILL NEVER DIE. at least, not until people stop creating threads about him.

[Psychosis]

For the record he was wanted back by tampa bay after last season. He chose to leave on his own accord. Gruden was quoted as saying he was mad rob left them for washington. This is just to erase the false assumptions that tampa did not want him back.

[MR. GIBBERISH]

enough of your talking about that awful loser.

[wagoncircler]

Rob has the same QB rating as you and I. You have to be an NFL QB to have a passer rating.

[StraightJ]

Originally posted by wagoncircler
Rob has the same QB rating as you and I. You have to be an NFL QB to have a passer rating.

Maybe for the last couple of weeks, but his lifetime rating is higher than yours. :) The announcers in the boys-skins game yesterday said the skins were stupid to get rid of him. It's funny how you guys complain about this RJ thread, but didnt complain to the people who started the countless negative threads about him. I hate the double standard with you guys.
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[wagoncircler]

Originally posted by StraightJ
Maybe for the last couple of weeks, but his lifetime rating is higher than yours. :)

And so it was, that at long last Rob Johnson had something to be proud of.

[Psychosis]

Originally posted by StraightJ
Maybe for the last couple of weeks, but his lifetime rating is higher than yours. :) The announcers in the boys-skins game yesterday said the skins were stupid to get rid of him. It's funny how you guys complain about this RJ thread, but didnt complain to the people who started the countless negative threads about him. I hate the double standard with you guys.
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They hate the threads, bash anyone who has something positive to say, don't bash the thread starters and partake in the thread they hate. Double standard indeed.

[StraightJ]

Originally posted by MacLeod
They hate the threads, bash anyone who has something positive to say, don't bash the thread starters and partake in the thread they hate. Double standard indeed.

Very good point. Notice that one of them started his own RJ thread this week. This board is nuts sometimes. Another thing NOBODY on here mentioned, is that RJ isnt starting this week or anytime in the foreseable future. He is not even the #2, but listed as the #3 QB for this week's showdown with the j e t s. Maybe he will move up with the amazing lack of talent above him, and after watching mirer ruin one of my picks for last week(by throwing his own), I dont see why he shouldn't.
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