How bad does Keyshawn feel

[Player6600]

They had the mic on him and in the first half he was talking smack about Harrison. Well end of the night 176 yards 2 TD's. How embarassing for Keyshawn. Next time he should keep his mouth shut

[RixBills]

The guy can never learn to keep his big hole shut. He's an idiot and a VERY overrated WR. Can't stand the guy.

[askabry]

Yeah ... I'll be happy to respond to that one. As a Jets fan, I can tell you Keyshawn doesn't give a crap about how stupid he sounds or how much meaningless smack he lays down.

Keyshawn is about K and nothing else. No player in the NFL has a more needlessly self-aggrandized image as K ... and baby that's saying a lot.

The guy has never once delivered on his promise. He should be half the football player of the guy that replaced him. Chrebet had half the talent and size, twice the heart and delivered more first downs in his prime.

Boo-yah, Keyshawn. The entire NFL is laughing at you today. But that's nothing new.

[JerseyBillsFan]

At least he has the hardware that he can always pull out on us Bills fans.

[Player6600]

he won't be happy with it, because on that team he was the second best WR behind Jurevious

[shinsnake]

He's not even half the receiver that his cousin Chad is in Cincy. They call each other every week and talk about their games and Chad is killing him in production, but he always has the trump card. He tells him, "I have the ring and you play for the Bengals." Chad said he told him at one point the Bucs were the Bengals and that he thinks Marvin can get them where the Bucs are now.

Anyway, he is overrated and needs to keep quiet until he actually does something special on the field.

[thegame]

McCardell>Keyshawn
Jurevicious>Keyshawn
Chad>Keyshawn

Harrisson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Keyshawn

Shut up, Keyshawn. You are average.

[bigdog]

Keyshawn is the biggest chump in the NFL. I like it when he runs his mouth because it makes it all the sweeter when he has to shove his foot in it.

[billsfanone]

Originally posted by askabry
Yeah ... I'll be happy to respond to that one. As a Jets fan, I can tell you Keyshawn doesn't give a crap about how stupid he sounds or how much meaningless smack he lays down.

Keyshawn is about K and nothing else. No player in the NFL has a more needlessly self-aggrandized image as K ... and baby that's saying a lot.

The guy has never once delivered on his promise. He should be half the football player of the guy that replaced him. Chrebet had half the talent and size, twice the heart and delivered more first downs in his prime.

Boo-yah, Keyshawn. The entire NFL is laughing at you today. But that's nothing new.

You're a Jets fan?

[Cowboy]

that's what I want to know.

[askabry]

yepper.

Grew up on Long Island (NOT Long-gile-an) as a Mets (saw Koufax at Shea) and Jets fan. Moved here in 75 to go to school, went to a Bills game in 78.

Bills fan, circa 1978. Jets fan, circa 1968.

[Denverbillsfan]

KJ and TO are two peas in a pod.

[The Chosen]

LOSER! :moon:

[RixBills]

Originally posted by JerseyBillsFan
At least he has the hardware that he can always pull out on us Bills fans.

I hate when people bring up the "well he has a ring and he doesn't" thing. Who gives a rats ass if he has a ring. Fact is he's overrated and needs to keep his trap SHUT! He got lucky enough, along with the Scrub Rob Johnson, to be on a TEAM that was good enough to win it all. He "contributed" to the ring, but to say that he's a better WR than most because he has one is ludicrious! (I'm not saying you think he is Jersey, I'm just making a point)

Pulling out the "he has a ring" card is about as equal as saying everyone with a ring is better than any other player at the same position that doesn't have one. Is Brad Johnson a better QB than Manning? NO! Is Keyshawn a better WR than Harrison or Moss just because he has a ring? NO!! Was Mark Rypen a better QB than Kelly or Marino? HELL NO!

[frank grimes]

Key-shawn = More-on

[MrWhite]

"I can be lazy too, look at me! Hi, I'm a worthless employee just like Homer Simpson, give me a promotion!"
- Grimey

[standingbuffalo43]

Originally posted by Denverbillsfan
KJ and TO are two peas in a pod.

no... T.O backs his smack with production...
Key is mediocre at best...
T.O can and has taken complete control of many games & dominated...
keyshawn has never dominated any team...

ever.

[Mouldsie]

Keyshawn isn't that bad (T.O. is way worse) you guys and he is a great person in the community. He's a nominee for "Man of the year" I think in the NFL (award for charity work).

Also, why wouldn't you expect him to talk smack? It's football! At least he's confident.

He's also one of the toughest WR's in the NFL, you have to respect his ability to block and make catches in traffic.



If I still haven't convinced you that he isn't so bad (especailly now in his career).... after he left for TB that one year in FAcy.... he told Eric Moulds that it was one of the toughest things he's had to do in his career and that Moulds should think long and hard befoer making a decision b/c he'll miss his teamates and fans etc.
E-mo, of course, ended up staying here for less money than Philly (an immediate contender) offered.

[wagoncircler]

Originally posted by MOULDSROCKS
Also, why wouldn't you expect him to talk smack? It's football! At least he's confident.

I DETEST Keyshawn Johnson, and this is exactly why. He represents all that is classless, ignorant and self-serving. You want to talk self-aggrandizing smack, fine--it's annoying, but, whatever. But to talk sh** about other players is complete crap, and to talk about your own teammates (when he was in NY) is as low as it gets.

The culture of the NBA is slowly creeping its way into the NFL, and it will be the death of this game. And that SUCKS.

[StraightJ]

I can understand a player talking smack about the guy's he's facing(ie receiver vs cb, ie moulds vs miami), but I think it is without merit to talk trash about someone you're not competing directly against. This fact is heightened when that guy isnt a big talker, and you are.
J

[Figurita20]

Originally posted by MOULDSROCKS


If I still haven't convinced you that he isn't so bad (especailly now in his career).... after he left for TB that one year in FAcy.... he told Eric Moulds that it was one of the toughest things he's had to do in his career and that Moulds should think long and hard befoer making a decision b/c he'll miss his teamates and fans etc.
E-mo, of course, ended up staying here for less money than Philly (an immediate contender) offered.


I was going to post the same thing, after that advice he gave to Emo I gained a lot of respect for the man.

[Mouldsie]

Fair enough wagon, but I still have to respect him for his toughness (he blocks and goes over the middle like nothing), off-the-field-work, and advice to Moulds.

[standingbuffalo43]

you obviously arent aware of T.Os charity work, mouldsie...

granted, he doesnt have a book deal, but lets face facts...
key couldnt hold T.Os jock...

[Mouldsie]

Originally posted by standingbuffalo43
you obviously arent aware of T.Os charity work, mouldsie...

granted, he doesnt have a book deal, but lets face facts...
key couldnt hold T.Os jock...

not as a player

[sotampacane]

Originally posted by Player6600
he won't be happy with it, because on that team he was the second best WR behind Jurevious

Listen, Key makes an ass of himself over and over again, but there is NO way that Joe Jurevious is better than #19. That comment above is just false. In 3 years with the Bucs, Key averages 80 catches, 1100 yds. Pretty much the same #'s he had with the Jets.

Key gets doubled every time. Jurevicious is often running against LB's and safeties. He's the 3rd receiver and never faces a double team. We all love JJ, but that 'he's the best' is way too much praise.

Look at what happened to the Bucs last night when he went out. The offense had no 'go to' guy. Key goes over the middle and makes very tough catches, and makes others around him better. He may be an ass, but he does play very well.

He is no Marvin Harrison, but Key is still one of the best. And he does have a ring.

[matthew94]

I agree that Johnson is the Bucs best receiver, but I wouldn't say he's a ton better than Joe or Keenan.

I think he's always been a bit overrated. I don't think he's a top 10 receiver in the NFL or ever has been. The other top recievers get doubled too, but they still produce. Moulds, Ward, Harrison, Moss, and Owens are DEFINITELY WAY better than him. I'd rank him on par with guys like David Boston, P. Burress, Peerless, Driver, I. Bruce, T. Brown, etc. Good enough to be a number 1, but not a game breaker.

[pigpen65]

Yeah,, did anybody catch that shot of keyshawn dancing like an idiot right before halftime. What a complete jerk. He got drafted as the first choice so he's always gonna have a chip on his shoulder, but damn..... how many times do you have to be humiliated before you realize that your not as good as you're hype.

[Player6600]

in the playoffs Jurevious was better then Keyshawn Johnson.

Btw he has 6td's in 2 years

[RedWhite&Drew]

Originally posted by RixBills
I hate when people bring up the "well he has a ring and he doesn't" thing. Who gives a rats ass if he has a ring. Fact is he's overrated and needs to keep his trap SHUT! He got lucky enough, along with the Scrub Rob Johnson, to be on a TEAM that was good enough to win it all. He "contributed" to the ring, but to say that he's a better WR than most because he has one is ludicrious! (I'm not saying you think he is Jersey, I'm just making a point)

Pulling out the "he has a ring" card is about as equal as saying everyone with a ring is better than any other player at the same position that doesn't have one. Is Brad Johnson a better QB than Manning? NO! Is Keyshawn a better WR than Harrison or Moss just because he has a ring? NO!! Was Mark Rypen a better QB than Kelly or Marino? HELL NO!

It doesn't apply as you put it, to comparing players' stats. But, it does apply to Keyshawn in talking smack to other players. The ring is the ultimate goal, whether you're the main reason for it, or not. You can still flash it in someone's face.

[StraightJ]

I'm telling you, Jerry has a lot of wisdom! They both are jerks with little self-control(if any) that happened to be pretty talented. KJ is one of the reasons I wanted an AFC team to beat those punks.
J

[Alternity]

Do you guys remember his comments before the first time he played against the Jets? He said Wayne Chrebet was a flashlight while he (Keyshawn) was a shining star.

Well at the end of the game Keyshawn had 4 yds of receptions (yes that's right... 4) while Chrebet had around 100 and a TD.

That's my favorite Keyshawn moment :)

[sotampacane]

Originally posted by Player6600
in the playoffs Jurevious was better then Keyshawn Johnson.

Btw he has 6td's in 2 years

sigh...if you say so.

Take JJ out of the game and take Keyshawn out of the game and compare results. Without JJ, the Bucs threw for almost 400 yds last monday. Once Keyshawn was out of the game, they had virtually no offense.

I'm done with this. We're never going to agree or change each others minds.

[nyjunc]

Originally posted by askabry
Yeah ... I'll be happy to respond to that one. As a Jets fan, I can tell you Keyshawn doesn't give a crap about how stupid he sounds or how much meaningless smack he lays down.

Keyshawn is about K and nothing else. No player in the NFL has a more needlessly self-aggrandized image as K ... and baby that's saying a lot.

The guy has never once delivered on his promise. He should be half the football player of the guy that replaced him. Chrebet had half the talent and size, twice the heart and delivered more first downs in his prime.

Boo-yah, Keyshawn. The entire NFL is laughing at you today. But that's nothing new.

I disgaree. yes he is a loudmouth and yes he does have some "Meshawn" in him but he was an absolute leader here w/ the Jets and I imagine he is in TB. He was the last true leader we had on O before Chad stepped in last year, he is 10x the player Chrebet is and 100x the leader. We still miss him.

[RixBills]

The guy is way overrated. End of story.

[wagoncircler]

A legend in his own mind. Were it not for Brian Bosworth, Keyshawn would be the biggest buffoon in the history of the NFL.

[Mouldsie]

Originally posted by pigpen65
Yeah,, did anybody catch that shot of keyshawn dancing like an idiot right before halftime. What a complete jerk. He got drafted as the first choice so he's always gonna have a chip on his shoulder, but damn..... how many times do you have to be humiliated before you realize that your not as good as you're hype.

New Rule for 04:
Only the best player in the league at his position is allowed to dance at any point before, during, or after a game.


rofl!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think maybe you're just jealous b/c you don't know how to dance....?

[wagoncircler]

Glad to see you've amused yourself there Mouldsie.

[D-Rocafella]

Keyshawn is a world class a-hole. He talks a big game but hasen't backed it up since his days as a Jet. The sad thing is that he is the 3rd best reciever on his team (behind McCardell, and Jerivicious), and the 4th best offensive weapon (above 2 recievers and Pittman).

Keyshawn didin't win squat. It was guys like Johnson, Pittman, McCardell, Rice, Sapp, Brooks, Barber, and Lynch that won it for him.

[Mouldsie]

Obviously you guys don't respect the fact that he's willing to do the dirty work at the position and the fact that he is double-teamed every play since they can't run the ball. He draws coverages away from Keenan and Joe. A guy with the title "I made you gameless" referring to Moulds/Price should know this!

I must be naive b/c since around 2000 when I really started following football, Keyshawn has never really come off as a selfish player or headcase like Moss, Owens, or Shockey. Only his book, which to me, isn't bad at all. I don't mind recievers wanting the ball to make plays or celebrating a TD, it's the other crap that gets annoying.



I still don't understand how
dancing at halftime = 'jerk'

[wagoncircler]

Is talking smack about your OWN FREAKING TEAMMATES difficult for you to understand?
Somehow, I won't be surprised if it is.
You obviously just have a thing for jaggoffs.

[FrankieA]

Keyshawn, I don't know whats funnier his name or the fact that he believes he can even be compared to Harrison.

[nyjunc]

I think you guys are underestimating Keyshawn. He may be a notch below the Moss', harrison's and Owens' but he is still a top WR in this game and he is a guy who is relentless in pursuit of victory and won't stand for anything less. He is a GREAT blocker, takes up many DTs and makes all the tough catches in traffic. I wish we still had him.

[naeliac]

Originally posted by nyjunc
I think you guys are underestimating Keyshawn. He may be a notch below the Moss', harrison's and Owens' but he is still a top WR in this game and he is a guy who is relentless in pursuit of victory and won't stand for anything less. He is a GREAT blocker, takes up many DTs and makes all the tough catches in traffic. I wish we still had him.

Do you think he is as good as moulds, and he blocks tackles?

[nyjunc]

DT stands for double teams, not D-Tackles(my fault, bad initials to use). I think Moulds is a better deep threat but they are on the same level.

[wagoncircler]

You're delusional. Want the truth? Follow the money. When it came time to renew with Moulds, Buffalo showed him the cash. When it came contract time for the CANCER that is Keyshawn, NY showed him the door.

[BuffaloRanger]

Keyshawn makes fans hate players like him by showboating. Harrison doesn't need to showboat - he lets his actions speak for him. Old School.

[finsrclowns]

moved to "the Rest of the NFL"

[nyjunc]

Originally posted by wagoncircler
You're delusional. Want the truth? Follow the money. When it came time to renew with Moulds, Buffalo showed him the cash. When it came contract time for the CANCER that is Keyshawn, NY showed him the door.

It had nothing to do w/ Key being a cancer, he was the exact opposite. They ddin't pay him b/c our cap wwas very screwed up back then(it's a little better now) and we couldn't afford to pay him what he wanted- see laveraneus Coles.

[wagoncircler]

Keep telling yourself that. Keyshawn wasn't a decisive factor on the Jets--OK. He was the glue that held the team together. The rest of the Jets just HATE Wayne Chrebet and were quietly cheering at Keyshawn's selfless attempt at promoting team unity by courageously scorching a team pariah like Chrebet.
If that's what you believe, then you just love PUNKS and no-account low-lifes like Keyshawn, and that says more about you than anything.
Those communist Tarheel professors have succeeded in warping your brain.

[nyjunc]

Keyshawn was a well respected leader in the locker room. Yeah his antics can be annoying sometimes but he was LOVED here(except by wayne).

[wagoncircler]

Keyshawn is a punk.

[nyjunc]

Keyshawn is a winner!

[wagoncircler]

Keyshawn had as much to do with the Bucs SB victory as their waterboy.

[nyjunc]

Keyshawn had some big cathces in that first half when the game was in doubt, he had a good SB. Whether he was the difference or not is not the question, the guy is a winner. he helped to resurrect us and was a huge part of getting us to the AFC Championship Game(he may have had the best playoff game of any WR in the history of the game against jax in the div rd- he had a TD catch, a TD run, a fumble recovery, an interception and over 120 yds rec). I hated when they traded him but it's hard to argue w/ the players we got back, if not for that trade we never would have chosen Chad.

[wagoncircler]

... set an NFL postseason record with 240 receiving yards in January '99 Wild Card game at Miami.

THIS was the "greatest playoff game by any receiver in the history of the NFL", and it was by Eric Moulds.

Keyshawn couldn't carry Moulds' jock strap, although he probably dreams about exactly that.
When he shuts up long enough.

Keyshawn is a punk.

[nyjunc]

Originally posted by wagoncircler
... set an NFL postseason record with 240 receiving yards in January '99 Wild Card game at Miami.

THIS was the "greatest playoff game by any receiver in the history of the NFL", and it was by Eric Moulds.

Keyshawn couldn't carry Moulds' jock strap, although he probably dreams about exactly that.
When he shuts up long enough.

Keyshawn is a punk.

And how did you do in that game? you lost while Key led us to a victory. His hustle on the fumble recovery was a HUGE play, we were up 10-0 and driving when a botched hand off landed in the hands of Donovan Darius who was off to the races until Vinny cut him off the Key ran all the way across field(at least 40 yards) and picked up the looses ball that darius tried to lateral. The jets then scored and went up 17-0. It was a HUGE play, Key may not always fill up the stat sheet but he does alot of little things and his all-around game was the BEST I have ever seen.

[nyjunc]

Keyshawn couldn't carry Moulds' jock strap, although he probably dreams about exactly that.

And Moulds probably dreams one day he'll win a playoff game like Keyshawn's teams have.

[wagoncircler]

Moulds knows that he'll never make a complete fool of himself on national TV while his team is GAGGING on a 21 point lead with 4 minutes left.

Keyshawn is a laughingstock
And a punk..

[nyjunc]

They also would never mic up Moulds b/c he's dull. Keyshawn is a great player and a great personality.

[Hurls]

Originally posted by wagoncircler
... set an NFL postseason record with 240 receiving yards in January '99 Wild Card game at Miami.

THIS was the "greatest playoff game by any receiver in the history of the NFL", and it was by Eric Moulds.

Keyshawn couldn't carry Moulds' jock strap, although he probably dreams about exactly that.
When he shuts up long enough.

Keyshawn is a punk.

What did all these Moulds' exploits get us? A 1st round exit, I love Moulds, but you can't bash a guy that gets the big 1st downers over the middle, and he has a ring to show for it. Whether he was the "water boy" or not.

[bigdog]

Wow some of you guys are sleepwalking through life or something. Moulds vs Meshawn? This comparison is so stupid in principle that I shoudn't even lend it credence.

Meshawn is the biggest loser in football right now just a notch above his equally offensive teammate Sapp. He is a loud mouth moron who more often then not ends up stepping in it. He calls out harrison then watches him put up huge numbers and destroy his team while he (Meshawn) sits on the bench with a little boo boo on his leg.

Where was the leadership from Meshawn when his team was flushing a 21 point lead?

Moulds was injured against the bengals but stayed in for two plays while TH won it before collapsing in pain. That's leadership my friends.

[wagoncircler]

What did all these Moulds' exploits get us? A 1st round exit, I love Moulds, but you can't bash a guy that gets the big 1st downers over the middle, and he has a ring to show for it. Whether he was the "water boy" or not.

What you CAN'T do is compare the two teams and assign credit or blame in those two games.

In that playoff game we had a midget QB and an incompetent coaching staff, (much like we do now). Tampa had (has) a great coach and arguably the best Defense ever to play the game. COMPLETELY different situations.

If you think Keyshawn is a better receiver than Moulds, you're just wrong. You offer any GM in the NFL their choice and 100% of them pick Moulds. Mostly because he's a better player, but also because Keyshawn is a punk.

[Hurls]

I wonder what Tampa fans think. Win a SB with "punks", or have one of the top 3 WR's, Sam Adams, and no SB. I'll take the Super Bowl. Not that I think Keyshawn's better, no way. But in regards to the title of the thread, I'll bet he could care less what happened on TV, let alone feel bad, as he looks down at his ring

[wagoncircler]

You act like TB wouldn't have won that Super Bowl without Johnson, and that's just BS. Better yet, swap the punk for Moulds on that team and TB would have won by 70 points.

[Mouldsie]

Originally posted by wagoncircler
then you just love PUNKS and no-account low-lifes like Keyshawn,

Keyshawn gives away more money than anybody on TB when it comes to charity man. He's a great leader in the community.

[Mouldsie]

BTW Moulds >>>>>>>> Keyshawn



and Keyshawn is not a top-flight WR anymore. No question he's the best in TB and he is clutch and very tough.


He also did not win the playoff game for them.
And We lost with E-mo's effort b/c the rest of the team was overated and blew it.