Is race a factor in the NFL...

[Denverbillsfan]

if not then why does every team have to interview at least one black head coach and if they don't Jesse Jackson gets involved. I personally think that it should be the best man for the job and if you aren't interview a black coach then so be it.

[Sparx]

Originally posted by Denverbillsfan
if not then why does every team have to interview at least one black head coach and if they don't Jesse Jackson gets involved. I personally think that it should be the best man for the job and if you aren't interview a black coach then so be it.

race is a factor in everything in this society, better get used to it because nothing is going to change in our lifetime.

[StraightJ]

"race is a factor in everything in this society, better get used to it because nothing is going to change in our lifetime." I wonder if people made statements like that to MLK Jr when he was a kid? I think people are gettng fed up with the media bais and double standard and issues will soon start to be addressed. While Rush could have picked better examples like Cordell Stuart, I think he had a very valid point. If people don't think race is a factor, they're more than color-blind. Affirmative action came within 1 vote of being ended in college admissions, something that effects far more football players than any NFL move. States like California have propositions that would eliminate race as a factor in deciding where money for the needy goes, and let the decisions be decided on need, regardless of race. Sounds very logical right? But surprisingly, it's always the liberals who want to keep race an issue. To answer the question of the thread, it will be an issue in the league as long as it is an issue in society. Let's just hope the extent that it's an issue in either will die down sooner than later.
J

[2004Draft]

Alas, the poor, oppressed white man. Only other downtrodden white guys are likely to commiserate. The rest of the world's population surely won't.

[MR. GIBBERISH]

Race can be a factor and in a lot of instances it is, but in today's world it is way overemphasized and while society still has a long way to go its better than what Jessie and Al would have us believe and worse than what Rush would have us believe because like almost everything else the truth in this case as well is somewhere in the middle.

[#1Buffalo_fan]

Who cares about race. Rush Limbaugh would be an idiot even if he were black.

[Hurls]

Until the NBA puts in a rule that one white guy must play at least a minute in a game, the whole NFL coaching thing's a sham. It's the best coach, period. If Mr. Miyagi could coach football like he coached Daniel-san, I'd hire him in B-Lo in a sec.

[MR. GIBBERISH]

Originally posted by #1Buffalo_fan
Who cares about race. Rush Limbaugh would be an idiot even if he were black.

That is probably his worst nightmare. I'd love to see it though. He'd have to change a lot of his ideas.

[cobra commander]

Rush told the truth about black qb's like it or not.

[StraightJ]

Originally posted by cobra commander
Rush told the truth about black qb's like it or not.

I agree, but the truth doesnt so much have to do with black qb's, but rather how the media treats black qb's. Even though McNabb had the lowest rating of any starter until recently, the Eagles are one game out of the best record in the NFC. Maybe he was getting too much credit for the Eagles' success in the past.
J

[Hurls]

if you're qualified, i dont care if you're yellow. Oh, wait, Gilbride is white and yellow. Keep running you chicken doo-doo OC

[StraightJ]

Originally posted by hurls
if you're qualified, i dont care if you're yellow.

I think Rush would have agreed with you on that. The media misunderstood what he was saying. Actually, I dont think they did. I think they knew what he said(it was pretty clear in its full context), and tried to make him the next Lt. Mark Furman. It worked.
J

[Hurls]

Originally posted by StraightJ
I think Rush would have agreed with you on that. The media misunderstood what he was saying. Actually, I dont think they did. I think they knew what he said(it was pretty clear in its full context), and tried to make him the next Lt. Mark Furman. It worked.
J

Mark ol' boy. Heck of a donkey. He and the prosecutors are personally responsible for OJ golfing today. And speaking of OJ, see my thread in asylum

[StraightJ]

Originally posted by hurls
Mark ol' boy. Heck of a donkey. He and the prosecutors are personally responsible for OJ golfing today. And speaking of OJ, see my thread in asylum

Old Mark did solve that 25 year old Skakel(sp) murder(the kennedy cousin). I saw the made for TV movie and the guy was hard hitting, and went thru a lot. ...As for OJ threads, I still think I deserve some sort of nomination for my RJ vs OJ thread in the smackdown forum. Someone got it off topic on the knicks playoff game though. :(
J

[Mouldsie]

cmsu is right, both sides of the issue are off-base.

race isn't as bad as some thimk, and it isn't as much of a non-factor as some think.



Some parts of the NFL are run by 80 y/o racist SOB's but not that much. Race could be considered a factor in coahing only b/c idiots and failures like Gilbride always seem to be able to land a job but It might be more of a "your name is more recognizable so you're hired" -I'm not sure
that part was kinda random what whatever, i'm bored.

[matthew94]

I think the NFL policy is bad for the league, bad for teams, and bad for black coaches.

It's sad that the NFL caved so easily to Jessie Jackson, who may be the biggest racist in this country.

It's sad that teams can't flat out get the coach of their choice.

It' sad that black coaches are going to be interviewed when, in some of the cases, they will have no shot at the job. Like the case in Detroit. They knew they wanted steve m. There was no way they were going to hire anyone else. So why interview anyone else? It just makes the black guy being interviewed feel like a pawn.

[Mouldsie]

Teams can get the choice they want.

they just have to now interview black coaches who, (i agree with you) are just being tokens.


the only thing this does is get peoples name sout there, but is it worth it for the coaches?

[StraightJ]

Isnt it degrading to realize you're just a token? I wouldnt enjoy being in that spot.
J

[Hurls]

Greggie's a token dead man walking