Mosley De La Hoya

[RaidersFan]

The fight is tomarow. I cant wait. I have been looking forward to this fight for a long time now. I want Sugar to win but i dont know if he can pull it off. What do you guys think.

[Hurls]

Golden Boy De la Hoya takes it in a TKO 8th round

[FrankieA]

$54.95, I think I'll pass on this one.

[jimmifli]

Go to a sports bar.

Dela Hoya by decision. Should be a good one!

[BironsGirl43]

That's it

I don't think I want to watch boxing ever again..

:cryn:

[RaidersFan]

Raidersfan Expert Anaylsis

So im sure many of you are thinking De La Hoya got robbed. I think not. Coming into the fight i was expecting Oscar to come out strong and work the jab like he said he was going to do. And sure enough he did both. But another thing i knew was that if oscar was going to come out like that then this was going to be another one of those fights for Oscar. One thing that oscar didnt relize was that he gained speed from the 1st fight with mosley or the fight with trinidad. So with that he got tired a lot quicked.

As we all know Oscar dominated the fight with Felix Trinidad in the first 8 rounds. But then he let up and Trinidad took over and won the fight. Oscar did the same thing but this time he only was winning the first 6 rounds and they were not half as convincing as the rounds with trinidad were.

In the first 6 tonight Oscar was throwing and landing a lot more punches than Mosley. But that doesnt always matter. In those first 6 Mosley still came out with one if not two rounds. The 3rd and 4th. After that Oscar slowed down a lot. He stoped throwin 40 jabs a round. That was a bad move. If he was smart he would have only been throwin 20-25 jabs a round.

Now the last 6 rounds. Oscar came out slow and rugged. While mosley on the other hand was a totally new fighter. He came out aggresive not scared to come in and he was not waiting to only attack on a counter. Oscar still showed some signs of fight in the last rounds. But not enough. Mosley obviously took the last 5 rounds and rounds 3 and 4. Thats 7 rounds. thats how i would have carded the fight rounds 1,2,5,6,7 go to Oscar but rounds 3,4,8-12 go to Mosley

He are the differences and similarities between the Oscar Trinidad fight and the Oscar Mosley 2 fights.

Similarities:
Oscar came out strong in both. Ended slow in both. Both fighters were calm in the beggining and put it all out in the end.

Differences:
Against Felix Oscar totally dominated the first 8. While in the mosley fight he did not dominate. Against Trinidad he quit in the last 4 rounds. He was running away. But against Mosley he still tried a little bit but not enough.

Great fight. Oscar should not call it quits. A fight will come up.

[Henry4MVP]

Not bad analysis, RF. I agree with the decision for Mosely, but I think De La Hoya is being really stupid about the "investigation" thing. I've seen actual robberies in the ring and this wasn't one of 'em.

They should definitely rematch; Shane won't make any money (comparatively) by fighting Miyorga or Forrest. Shane will make it 3-0 if they do scrap. I think he can also beat Miyorga but I'm pretty sure Forrest is in his head. If he could somehow run the table (right, like boxers fight that often) he'd have to be considered an all-time great.

[billsfanone]

I'll start by saying I didn't see the fight...

I think they need to re-evaluate the 10 point system. It's silly.

It would work if they used the full range. Here is what I propose.

A very very close round should be scored 10-10 (not 10-9 in one boxer's favor). Because these add up.

A somewhat convincing round should be scored 10-9.

A somewhat dominating round with no knockdown, or a close round with a knockdown should be scored 10-8 (not 10-9)

A more dominating round with no knockdown, or a somewhat dominating round with a knockdown gets 10-7 (again not 10-9, which is almost always the score if there isn't a knockdown or real damage).

A totally dominating round with no knockdown, or a more dominating round with a knockdown gets 10-6 (that's right).

A dominating round with a knockdown gets 10-5. (not a 10-8, which it gets now).

An so on.

Are you following me?

I don't get how one fighter can totally dominate a round now and it's scored the same as if someone just barely edges him. Those 1 points add up.

[Hurls]

You people are insane. This was one of the biggest robberies of ALL time. As Larry Merchant said, "A clear, cut victory for De la Hoya". What a freakin' joke. It was TOTALLY fixed, so they can now have a 3rd fight, for the biggest payout. Complete Fixation, Boxing is worse than wrestling. All 3 HBO commentators picked Oscar, compu-box picked Oscar. FIXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[Hurls]

Originally posted by RaidersFan
Raidersfan Expert Anaylsis

So im sure many of you are thinking De La Hoya got robbed. I think not. Coming into the fight i was expecting Oscar to come out strong and work the jab like he said he was going to do. And sure enough he did both. But another thing i knew was that if oscar was going to come out like that then this was going to be another one of those fights for Oscar. One thing that oscar didnt relize was that he gained speed from the 1st fight with mosley or the fight with trinidad. So with that he got tired a lot quicked.

As we all know Oscar dominated the fight with Felix Trinidad in the first 8 rounds. But then he let up and Trinidad took over and won the fight. Oscar did the same thing but this time he only was winning the first 6 rounds and they were not half as convincing as the rounds with trinidad were.

In the first 6 tonight Oscar was throwing and landing a lot more punches than Mosley. But that doesnt always matter. In those first 6 Mosley still came out with one if not two rounds. The 3rd and 4th. After that Oscar slowed down a lot. He stoped throwin 40 jabs a round. That was a bad move. If he was smart he would have only been throwin 20-25 jabs a round.

Now the last 6 rounds. Oscar came out slow and rugged. While mosley on the other hand was a totally new fighter. He came out aggresive not scared to come in and he was not waiting to only attack on a counter. Oscar still showed some signs of fight in the last rounds. But not enough. Mosley obviously took the last 5 rounds and rounds 3 and 4. Thats 7 rounds. thats how i would have carded the fight rounds 1,2,5,6,7 go to Oscar but rounds 3,4,8-12 go to Mosley

He are the differences and similarities between the Oscar Trinidad fight and the Oscar Mosley 2 fights.

Similarities:
Oscar came out strong in both. Ended slow in both. Both fighters were calm in the beggining and put it all out in the end.

Differences:
Against Felix Oscar totally dominated the first 8. While in the mosley fight he did not dominate. Against Trinidad he quit in the last 4 rounds. He was running away. But against Mosley he still tried a little bit but not enough.

Great fight. Oscar should not call it quits. A fight will come up.

Don't quit your day job. So, you actually want us to believe you, over, Merchant, Lampley,Lederman, and George Foreman? Even Shane knew he was losing at the end. Admit the fix was in, Mosely's a chump, not a champ

[Henry4MVP]

Originally posted by hurls
Don't quit your day job. So, you actually want us to believe you, over, Merchant, Lampley,Lederman, and George Foreman? Even Shane knew he was losing at the end. Admit the fix was in, Mosely's a chump, not a champ

Garbage. Ring Magazine, Max Kellerman (who's not my fave, but hell...he's a professional) and Brian Kenny and the majority of ringside sportswriters ALL picked Mosely.

Originally posted by hurls
You people are insane. This was one of the biggest robberies of ALL time. As Larry Merchant said, "A clear, cut victory for De la Hoya". What a freakin' joke. It was TOTALLY fixed, so they can now have a 3rd fight, for the biggest payout. Complete Fixation, Boxing is worse than wrestling. All 3 HBO commentators picked Oscar, compu-box picked Oscar. FIXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Who cares? Compubox doesn't denote winners, and George Foreman is almost painful to watch.

I can understand if you thought De La Hoya is the winner; it was an extremely close fight, but how the hell do you figure it was a clear cut win for either fighter?

I do agree that boxing has a lot of problems, but this isn't a good example of a fix at all.

[Hurls]

Because when you're facing the champ, you have to beat him, decisively, which mosely failed to do. total fix, and Brian Kenny's a retarded wannabe

[RaidersFan]

the only people that said that de la hoya won are those 4 guys. every one else said Mosley deserved it.

[D-Rocafella]

Originally posted by hurls
You people are insane. This was one of the biggest robberies of ALL time. As Larry Merchant said, "A clear, cut victory for De la Hoya". What a freakin' joke. It was TOTALLY fixed, so they can now have a 3rd fight, for the biggest payout. Complete Fixation, Boxing is worse than wrestling. All 3 HBO commentators picked Oscar, compu-box picked Oscar. FIXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

If there was a fix then De La Hoya would have been awarded the match. That way the series is 1-1 and the 3rd fight is more comelling. Now Mosely has won both decisons against De La Hoya. Why box again?