Jro
May 28th, 2003, 3:31:55 PM
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Interview is with Shiva... This interview was done weeks ago but im just posting it now... Enjoy!
FoSho: Who out of the last 10 or so presidents would you say is your favorite?
Shiva: Even though I'd have to rank FDR as the greatest president since Lincoln, my favorite would still have to be JFK. He was murdered of course.
FoSho: What is your major problem with Bush as a president?
Shiva: The major one? George Bush is a sociopathic little monster who along with his pirate crew is leading America into fascism as fast as he can get away with it.
There's a bunch of others too. Did you know he used to shove firecrackers down the throats of frogs and blew them to pieces?
And he used to brand other guys asses when he was frat president at Yale? And he deserted from the National Guard. His DUI. The coke. His miserable career as a business man. The fact he was a baseball owner. And on and on. The man's a catastrophe.
FoSho: Do you feel bush wraps religion in his politics? If so, Is that bad?
Shiva: Hmmm, is Bush really nuts, or is he just pretending to be nuts for his nut constituency?
I think he likes to see himself as a believer, but it certainly doesn't mean he's not willing to exploit it politically for all it's worth.
Is it bad? Of course. As I've stated before, the belief in imaginary beings is a sign of mental illness. Personally, I think it's it's kind of bizarre that people would think it's ok to let a guy who believes in the Rapture and Armageddon and The End of Times have his hand on the nuclear trigger.
But hey, maybe that's just me.
FoSho: If you had to geuss, Would you say there will be a women president in this country?
Shiva: Yes, if by some miracle democracy survives this administration.
FoSho: What are your feeling on the conflict between Isreal and Palistine? Which side is more to blame if any?
Shiva: Both sides have suffered horrible atrocities. Both sides have committed horrible atrocities. It needs to stop. Trying to rank each side as to who's been more inhuman only invites each side to try to get even in a never ending cycle of violence. Each side has to be prepared to sacrifice political face for the good of the people.
FoSho: How much do you worry about the environment?
Shiva: I can't imagine why anyone would be against wanting to keep this world as clean, healthy and beautiful as possible.
FoSho: Do you consider yourself someone who belives in alot of conspiracy theories...
Shiva: This is a leading question along the lines of "when did you stop beating your wife?"
However, I'll answer. No, I don't consider myself a conspiracy theory nut at all.
Anyone who has ever done some reading of history and literature knows that behind public actions there are private motivations.
People kill for power and money all the time. Some get away with it. Some don't.
Read "I Claudius" and "Claudius the King" by Robert Graves. It's about Rome from the Emperor Augustus through the Emperors Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius and Nero. A primer in human behaviour.
FoSho: What are some news/political websites you would like the readers to vist?
Shiva: Do yourself a favor as an American.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/
FoSho: What is the last book you've read?
Shiva: I reread "Foucault's Pendulum" by Umberto Eco, who also wrote "The Name Of The Rose".
It's about people's desires to see conspiracies where none exist and yet how these beliefs in none existant conspiracies can lead to the formation of real ones. Brilliant book.
FoSho: Whats your favorite movie?
Shiva: I've seen so many, there's no way I could say I had a favorite. But here are some of my favorites that you may not have seen... Gun Crazy, I Walked With a Zombie, Cat People, The Tenth Victim, Double Indemnity, Captain Blood, Touch Of Evil, The Creature From The Black Lagoon (3D), Them!, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Attack!, Count Yorga, Vampire, The Return of Count Yorga, The Fearless Vampire Killers, The Howling, The Searchers, The Quiet Man, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, The Wild Bunch, Le Mans, Performance, Don't Look Now, Throne of Blood, Yojimbo, Ran, Sonatine, The Seven Samurai, Taboo, Bandit Queen,Belle Epoque, Diva, Eight Million Ways to Die, Reform School Girls, Queen Margot. I'll think of more later...
Thats it for this interview... More to come!
Psychosis
May 28th, 2003, 3:35:13 PM
hey shiva, in your words that guy Judge Reinhold was an *******? Why's that? He looks like a harmless goofy guy on tv. Queen Margot was a good movie!
reeves84
May 28th, 2003, 3:44:21 PM
Shiva - how very polite and restrained of you. I still found it hilarious, but you could have been so much more vicious!
gilchristfan
May 28th, 2003, 3:55:23 PM
I'm impressed with anyonethat cn put I, Claudius on their list of favorite books, and Reform School Girls on their list of favorite movies. Good interview.
BTW- Excellent answer to the Israeli-Palestinian issue.
shiva2999
May 28th, 2003, 5:06:28 PM
What could be better than being the meanest poster?
All the rest of the awards are pathetic popularity contests but being voted meanest poster is a real tribute!
shiva2999
May 28th, 2003, 5:28:30 PM
Originally posted by Dantes
hey shiva, in your words that guy Judge Reinhold was an *******? Why's that? He looks like a harmless goofy guy on tv
He's a complete ******* who just plays a harmless goofy guy. And it's not just me, he has that rep all through town with everyone who's ever worked with him. I typed Judge Reinhold is an ******* into google and here's what I found...
http://www.leisuresuit.net/Webzine/articles/manonthemoon2_judge.shtml
Man on the Moon 2: Here Comes the Judge
by Chris Tyrrell
Following the critical success of Man on the Moon, the Milos Forman-directed chronicle of enigmatic performer Andy Kaufman, producer Danny DeVito realized he had only scratched the surface of recreating the lives of the many brilliant people he had had the pleasure to work with. When he was offered the chance to do a sequel, DeVito knew immediately who his next subject would be. When the words "misunderstood genius" are used, DeVito has said (in recent interviews), two men come to mind. One, clearly, was the late Andy Kaufman, who crossed the line, pushed the boundaries, and turned the act of performing into a surreal spectator sport.
And the second man, of course, was DeVito's Ruthless People costar, Judge Reinhold.
The following is a collection of excerpts from the actual script for "Man on the Moon 2: Here Comes the Judge", which Milos Forman intends to shoot early this spring. A cross-checking of facts has shown that some dates have been rearranged for dramatic effect.
CAST
(in order of appearance)
EDWARD REINHOLD, SR...Joseph Bologna
EDWARD REINHOLD, JR...Kieran Culkin
JUDGE REINHOLD........Chris O'Donnell
PAUL REISER...........Jonathan Silverman
EDDIE MURPHY..........Chris Tucker
BILL PULLMAN..........Keanu Reeves
DANNY DEVITO..........Himself
MEG TILLY.............Jennifer Tilly
BEVERLY D'ANGELO......Olivia D'Abo
CLIFFORD DORFMAN......Paul Giamatti
ACTUAL JUDGE..........Ray Walston
GUY WHO CALLS CASES...Judge Reinhold
ED BEGLEY, JR.........Mike Mills
INT. SUBURBAN HOUSE -- Day
Circa 1966, in the REINHOLD house.
EDWARD REINHOLD, SR.
Eddie? Eddie, are you in your room?
Judge?
EDWARD "JUDGE" REINHOLD, JR.
Just a minute, Dad.
EDWARD
Son, why aren't you outside playing with
the other--
EDWARD opens the door to find a ten-year-old JUDGE,
wearing a pirate's hat, stroking himself violently and
pleasurably.
JUDGE
Dad!
EDWARD
What are you doing?! What is wrong with
you?!
EDWARD exits.
JUDGE
Doesn't anybody knock anymore?
CUT TO:
INT. BATHROOM SET -- DAY
1982. The same scene, years later. JUDGE REINHOLD as
Brad Hamilton in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High," sits
on the toilet, as director Amy Heckerling calls "cut."
PAUL REISER walks up to him, and introduces himself.
PAUL REISER
Hey, good scene. I'm Paul Reiser.
JUDGE REINHOLD
Judge Reinhold.
REISER
Judge? So that would make you the
honorable Judge Reinhold?
JUDGE
(laughing)
Oh, I'm not a real judge. My dad
nicknamed me that. He's a lawyer.
REISER
I'm sorry.
JUDGE
Anyway, are you in this movie too?
REISER
No. I just shot a film called "Diner"
out in Baltimore, and now I'm up for the
sidekick role in a new action comedy.
JUDGE
Wow, a sidekick. I've always dreamed of
playing a sidekick. A wisecracking
sidekick?
REISER
This is what I'm saying.
JUDGE
What's the movie called?
REISER
"Beverly Hills Cop." Hey, you should
come to the auditions with me. I mean,
I'm sure they have parts for all kinds
of wisecracking sidekicks.
JUDGE
Really? Wow. All kinds of sidekick
parts!
REISER
I saw you do that scene in the fast food
restaurant, kid. I think you got
something.
JUDGE
I got something, huh?
REISER
I mean, you're WASP-y and bland. But
you could be brilliant.
CUT TO:
EXT. BACKLOT -- DAY
1983. Audio of R.E.M.'s remix of "Axel F. Theme" as
JUDGE REINHOLD sits in a car, holding a banana. EDDIE
MURPHY approaches the car.
EDDIE MURPHY
Say, man, you got my banana?
JUDGE REINHOLD
Sure, Eddie. Sure. Here you go.
JUDGE hands the banana to MURPHY.
MURPHY
Thanks, man.
JUDGE
Hey, Eddie. I just wanted you to know
that you're doing a terrific job in this
movie. I mean, that scene where we were
running, and you had the gun . . . and
then you made that joke . . . that was
powerful stuff.
MURPHY
You're not so bad yourself, man.
JUDGE
Judge. Judge Reinhold.
MURPHY
Your name is Judge?
JUDGE
Yeah.
MURPHY
What are you -- some kinda crazy
mother****er? Judge?
(Whiny white-guy voice)
Excuse me, but my name is Judge
Honkyface.
(Regular voice)
Crazy mother****er.
JUDGE
I'm not a real judge.
CUT TO:
EXT. STREET--DAY
1986. JUDGE REINHOLD wearing a clown mask/wig,
standing with BILL PULLMAN on the set of "Ruthless
People."
BILL PULLMAN
--and someday I'm going to be a leading
man, and I'm gonna play the President of
the United States, and--
DANNY DEVITO enters.
DANNY DEVITO
Yeah, sure you are, Billy. And I'm
gonna grow another foot or two!
(Cackles)
PULLMAN laughs, and both look to JUDGE, who seems to
be in a trance.
DEVITO (Cont'd)
Hey, Judge. I said, I'm gonna grow
another foot or two!
JUDGE
Listen, man, I'm not cut out for this
kidnapping thing.
DEVITO
Wha-?
JUDGE
I'm just a guy that sells speakers!
DEVITO leans over to PULLMAN.
DEVITO
What's he doing?
PULLMAN
Oh, it's a character he does. See, he's
not Judge Reinhold right now. Watch.
(Loudly)
Hey, Judge Reinhold!
JUDGE doesn't respond.
DEVITO
What a nut.
PULLMAN
Sometimes you don't know who you're
talking to. He's a very complex guy.
DEVITO
I guess so. He seems nice, though.
PULLMAN
Yeah. But maybe that's part of the act!
DEVITO
Maybe. Oh well. When it comes to
playing middle-of-the-road, static,
supporting actor parts in light 1980s
comedies, there's no one better than
him.
PULLMAN
Amen.
Both look to JUDGE, who is nervously brushing his
clown hair. He smiles awkwardly back at them.
CUT TO:
INT. JUDGE REINHOLD'S HOUSE -- NIGHT
1988. JUDGE REINHOLD sitting in his house, reading a
script, with MEG TILLY.
JUDGE REINHOLD
Goshdarnit. This is impossible.
He throws the script on the coffee table.
MEG TILLY
Judge Reinhold, why do you have to be so
tempestuous?
JUDGE
Well, who's gonna believe that I've
switched bodies with Fred Savage? I
mean, sure, he can act like a grown-up,
because Savage is a pro. He was in that
movie about Nintendo, for heaven's sake!
But I'm a different caliber actor, Meg.
No one's gonna buy me as childlike!
TILLY
But you are childlike, Judge Reinhold!
JUDGE
That's not me. It's a part of me, but
it's not the real me.
TILLY
And who is the real you? Do you even
know anymore?
JUDGE
I mean, I'm a nice guy -- that's it.
Remember when we shot "Off Beat," and I
was playing that cop? Well, that's
Judge Reinhold; only, not the cop part.
But the other stuff is me. It's here.
JUDGE points to his heart.
JUDGE (Cont'd)
And it's here.
JUDGE points to his brain.
JUDGE (Cont'd)
But sometimes . . . I don't know. It's
hard to see where the Judge ends and the
Reinhold begins. You understand?
TILLY
Of course I do.
TILLY grabs his hand and holds it to her chest.
TILLY (Cont'd)
And what do you feel now?
JUDGE
Fine.
TILLY
Then that's all that matters. Right now
-- here with me -- you feel fine.
JUDGE
Yeah. But I always feel fine.
TILLY
Even when you're . . . him?
JUDGE
The Judge? Yes, the Judge always feels
fine too.
TILLY
I think I'm falling in love with you,
you eccentric candle-in-the-wind.
JUDGE
That's good.
CUT TO:
INT. TRAILER -- DAY
1991. BEVERLY D'ANGELO and JUDGE REINHOLD sip coffee,
in a trailer, on the set of "Daddy's Dyin'...Who's Got
the Will?"
JUDGE
But, you know, Beverly, we're lucky.
We've managed to stay in this business
for many years, earning a decent living,
and working with dynamic superstars.
BEVERLY D'ANGELO
Yeah. But this movie's a piece of ****.
JUDGE
Beverly, the quality of the script
shouldn't matter to us! We're actors!
D'ANGELO
I guess it's true, what they say about
you. You're not just acting. You're
trying to start a revolution.
JUDGE
I just think that we're blessed to be
working in this fine industry.
D'ANGELO
This coffee tastes like dirt.
JUDGE
Wow. This is going to be a terrific
movie. And even if it isn't, this is
going to be a terrific experience.
D'ANGELO
Dirt with a little bit of cream and
sugar.
CUT TO:
EXT. STREET -- DAY
June 1998 -- La Brea Avenue. JUDGE REINHOLD drives
his black Mercedes, in the right-turn-only lane, and
suddenly jets into the intersection, trapping CLIFFORD
DORFMAN in his Ford Expedition. JUDGE rushes out to
assess the situation.
JUDGE REINHOLD
Sir, are you OK?
CLIFFORD DORFMAN
What the **** was that?
JUDGE
Are you alright, Sir? I'm so sorry
about that. I don't know where my
mind--
DORFMAN
Yeah, I'm fine. What the **** were you
-- hey, wait a minute! You're that guy
from "Stripes" and "Gremlins"! Judge
Something-or-other.
JUDGE
Reinhold.
DORFMAN
Well, looks like Mr. Celebrity Big Shot
doesn't know how to drive a goddamn car!
JUDGE
Sir, I'll pay for any --
DORFMAN
All you superstars think you can get
away with murder. Well, you just cut
off Clifford Dorfman, and he don't take
kindly to your Box Office Grossin' kind.
JUDGE
Mr. Dorfman, honestly, I'm just a
supporting actor who mistakenly stepped
on the gas at the --
DORFMAN
You may be a genius, but I'll see you in
court!
CUT TO:
INT. COURTROOM -- DAY
1998. CLIFFORD DORFMAN in a neck brace, and JUDGE
REINHOLD, looking sullen in a courtroom. ACTUAL JUDGE
presides.
ACTUAL JUDGE
Call the next case.
GUY WHO CALLS CASES
The People Versus Judge Reinhold!
ACTUAL JUDGE
What?
GUY WHO CALLS CASES
I mean . . . Clifford Dorfman versus
Judge Reinhold.
ACTUAL JUDGE
Mr. Reinhold . . . approach the bench.
JUDGE walks to the bench.
ACTUAL JUDGE
Now, son, you know we hate to see this
happen to one of our own.
JUDGE
Your honor, I'm not a real judge.
ACTUAL JUDGE
You're not? So it's just a witty
nickname?
JUDGE
It's a part of me, your honor. But I
can't explain that now.
ACTUAL JUDGE
Well . . . did you experience road rage,
and slam this Dorfman character's head
repeatedly against the side of his car?
JUDGE
No. But don't get mad at him, just
because he's lying.
ACTUAL JUDGE
Listen. I'm gonna create a diversion,
and I want you to run out that back
door. Right past the bailiff.
JUDGE
Sir?
ACTUAL JUDGE
This case is a sham. And you're a
brilliant supporting actor, who has
never been recognized in your own time.
Your legacy will live on for
generations. And I don't want to be the
******* character in the story of your
life. Besides . . . I . . . I got a
weak spot for "Zandalee." So skidaddle,
Judge Reinhold.
JUDGE
Thank you, actual judge. You're a good
man.
JUDGE runs away.
CUT TO:
INT. FUNERAL HOME -- NIGHT
1999. A gathering, much like a funeral, with all of
JUDGE REINHOLD's friends seated, and dressed in black.
PAUL REISER, EDDIE MURPHY, DANNY DEVITO, BILL PULLMAN,
BEVERLY D'ANGELO, MEG TILLY, and CLIFFORD DORFMAN sit
sadly, wiping their eyes. ED BEGLEY, JR. speaks.
ED BEGLEY, JR.
And so we all must remember the work
that Judge Reinhold has given us -- that
has lifted our spirits; that has changed
the way we view the world; that has
rocked the very foundation that we stand
on. He was an icon. He was light years
ahead of his time. He was not, however,
a real judge. But we celebrate his
filmography as a testament to his
brilliance: one of the few times we have
witnessed lightning caught on celluloid.
His acting career will be missed.
DEVITO walks to the podium and speaks.
DANNY DEVITO
Hey, everybody! I just looked Judge
Reinhold up on the Internet, and guess
what? The son-of-a-bitch's career isn't
dead! He's been acting in movies for
years now.
BILL PULLMAN
Even in the ‘90s?
DEVITO
Yeah. Even in the ‘90s!
PAUL REISER
Are you sure?
DEVITO
Yeah.
(Cackling)
They've just all been ****ty!
All rejoice in a procession of singing and dancing, as
they leave the room. BEGLEY remains. He addresses us
-- the audience.
BEGLEY
I can't be sure this is true. Maybe
Judge Reinhold's career didn't die with
"Beverly Hills Cop II." Maybe he did
work this whole last decade. The thing
you've got to understand -- but the
thing we'll never really understand --
is that Judge Reinhold was and is
something different to every person.
And every time a child is caught
masturbating, while wearing a pirate's
hat -- there's a little bit of Judge
Reinhold that remains alive.
THE END?
iakona
August 5th, 2007, 1:38:02 AM
FoSho: What are some news/political websites you would like the readers to vist?
Shiva: Do yourself a favor as an American.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/
I've been reading there for a good long time. Good call.
ICRockets
August 6th, 2007, 11:57:05 PM
It's sad how right shiva (and some others of us) were about Bush et al in 2003.
Also, I don't think I could sum up my views on the environment any better than that.
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