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thegame
April 8th, 2003, 12:14:15 AM
This is the first of many position threads. Who is your number 1 first baseman of all time.

For me, it has to be Lou Gehrig.

A career .340 average, 493 home runs, a career .991 fielding percentage, he was the best.

Any other perspectives? Who is your number 1 in today's league? Is it Helton, Thome, Giambi? Other?
Snarf
April 8th, 2003, 9:36:45 AM
Right now I think Thome is the best first basemen in the game, if he don't drop the ball like he did Sunday on that little pop up. I was disappointed to see him leave Cleveland, and then he goes to Philly of all places. Giambi in my mind is the most overrated player. He is very good, don't get me wrong, but he is not the best. He as a defensive player has the range of a coffee table, which is why I think he is overrated. And it don't seem like the A's miss him that much. As for Helton, maybe if he was playing somewhere else where the nation would see more of him then the minute clips on baseball tonight, he would be the number one first basemen. But I have to throw Carlos Delgado in there. Again the guy is a disaster in the field, but one hell of a hitter, and I am expecting him to have a big year after a down year last year. The Jays got some good bats around him, so teams will not be able to pitch around anymore. All in all, Thome is the best, and Philly made a hell of a pick up, Helton is second best.
Henry4MVP
April 8th, 2003, 10:26:32 AM
If you're gonna go all time, the top five go at least something like this:

1. Lou Gehrig
2. Stan Muzial
3. Jimmy Foxx
4. Johnny Mize
5. Willie McCovey

Today, I'd go for Todd Helton being the all-around best, with Jeff Bagwell and Jim Thome not far behind.
thegame
April 8th, 2003, 1:02:12 PM
It's funny, because if we would have had this discussion in 1995, Frank Thomas would be at the top of the list. How he has fallen.

I like that all time list, Henry4MVP, but I'd flip McCovey and Mize around.


As for today:

1. Jim Thome
2. Todd Helton
3. Bagpipes
4. Jason Giambi
5. Carlos Delgado
Henry4MVP
April 8th, 2003, 3:51:40 PM
Thomas in '95? Tell me about it...the man was unstoppable there for a long time. I don't know what happened to my boy, but I'm hoping he can turn it around.
MiamiMasterpiece
April 8th, 2003, 6:43:27 PM
1.) Giambi
2.) Thome
3.) Helton
4.) Bagwell
5.) Delgado
PUCKER
April 9th, 2003, 12:37:58 AM
Giambi
thegame
April 14th, 2003, 11:41:04 AM
Any suggestions for the next "all-time" thread?
EricStratton
April 14th, 2003, 2:13:52 PM
Just work around the diamond.
thegame
April 14th, 2003, 3:40:35 PM
Sounds good to me.

On the 1st baseman...

Who is the most underrated in baseball today?

I'd go with Carlos Delgado. He gets very little cred because of where he plays. Mike Sweeny is another name that comes to mind, but I think Carlos is the better player, and just as disrespected.
mighty peace warrior
April 14th, 2003, 7:01:45 PM
underrated all time.....Eddie Murray
PUCKER
April 14th, 2003, 9:23:33 PM
Tino Martinez
Hurls
April 15th, 2003, 1:41:34 AM
Sweeny more underrated than Delgado. But people are starting to notice
Henry4MVP
April 15th, 2003, 11:13:44 AM
All time underrated? Eddie Murray, and then Rafael Palmeiro.
thegame
April 15th, 2003, 12:49:15 PM
I love Palmiero. He is almost forgotten when people talk about great power hitters over the last decade, but his consistency and defence, in the earlier portion of his career anyway, have made him a player I think will make it to the hall of fame.
MiamiMasterpiece
April 15th, 2003, 5:51:52 PM
I hope he makes it to the hall of fame, i think he'sgreat.

What do you guys think of Konerko, Durazo? Underrated?
Henry4MVP
April 16th, 2003, 10:49:31 AM
Konerko! :thumbup:
The REAL Sabres
April 16th, 2003, 11:09:38 AM
Sean Casey
thegame
April 16th, 2003, 11:12:05 AM
Konerko is great. Last year he hit .304, had 27 homers and 104 RBI's, but went largely unnoticed. He is a main force in the White Sox lineup, and will be key in their hopes to win the AL Central this season, although he is off to a slow start.
John
April 23rd, 2003, 10:25:10 AM
Originally posted by thegame
This is the first of many position threads. Who is your number 1 first baseman of all time.

For me, it has to be Lou Gehrig.

A career .340 average, 493 home runs, a career .991 fielding percentage, he was the best.

Its funny that because of his illness, consecutive games streak and the fact that he played with Ruth, the Iron Horse's stats can sometimes get lost in the mix. His numbers are unbelievable, including 23 career grand slams.

Ruth could not have hit as many homeruns as he did without Gehrig behind him in the lineup.