Trade up, trade down, or stay?

[SMITTY]

Just want to know what the majority of us Bills fans out there would like to see happen. Not that it will, but what do you want to see?

[Range Roamer]

Trade down to Oakland for their other#1. They would be willing to trade up.

[buffmaniac]

why do the raiders want to trade up 8 spots? who are they going to get? even we do offer them our second too, it doesn't make sense when they can get two quality players by keeping the two #1s. This deal WILL not happen.

[Range Roamer]

Dah Raiders are high on getting Jeff Faine and were rummered to wan't to move up to get him.

[blunted]

I would like to see the Bills trade their 1st and 2nd picks with San Diego and get Kwame Harris but that is only because I think that he is going to be an amazing tackle. What they probably SHOULD do is try to trade down a couple of picks and get some extra picks. Donahoe is a very good evaluator of talent and with the more picks the better right?

[gonzo]

I've read where Pittsburgh might be interested in trading up to take Mike Doss (S, Ohio State) before the Colts do. But I'd rather see us keep the pick and take Doss for ourselves...

[askabry]

T R A D E U P !!!

It would take your first and second to get the DL of your dreams (Kevin Williams, Jerome McDougle, William Joseph) (roughly the 11th pick).

It would take the first and third to get the second best OL (Kwame Harris, Eric Steinbach) in the draft (roughly the 15th pick)

It would take the first and fourht to get the a great DE (Haynes) (roughly the 18th pick).

In order to sweeten any one of those deals, I'd gladly throw in a sixth or seventh round.


We need later picks like we need a hole in the head. Put your chips on the table right now and make a run for it.

[BANDITS]

I'm sick of Doss, I thought all talk involving him was over.

Gonzo, we don't need another SS that lacks cover skills.

[Pedrorocks458]

Originally posted by Range Roamer
Trade down to Oakland for their other#1. They would be willing to trade up.

We traded from last to 19th for a 3rd and a 5th. You'd get a 3rd at most.

[Mouldsie]

Pedro, that was embarassing. Stop now.



idk yet, we'll haev to wait and see what happens!

[Flatlander]

Originally posted by askabry
T R A D E U P !!!

It would take your first and second to get the DL of your dreams (Kevin Williams, Jerome McDougle, William Joseph) (roughly the 11th pick).

It would take the first and third to get the second best OL (Kwame Harris, Eric Steinbach) in the draft (roughly the 15th pick)

It would take the first and fourht to get the a great DE (Haynes) (roughly the 18th pick).


With the possible possible exception of Harris, I have seen at least one mock draft with every other one of these players is available at #23. The Bills should stay where they're at and take the best player off the board. If they keep that strategy a player with top 15 value will be available. There's always a run on certain positions as teams try to fill needs in the draft.

[Dex]

If the Bills trade down, they nullify their chances of getting a guy who can step right in and contibute. If they trade up, they nullify the talent base they have built this offseason. Best thing to do is make a pick at # 23. Bills could use another DE for their pass rush or DT to add depth there. Or, maybe a good tight end who can catch??

[buffan100]

The Bills can use ANY extra picks we can get. We are NOT a deep team. We finally have starters that can compete at a playoff level but we are not deep at any position on the roster anymore besides Safety which is weak in starters.

[buffan100]

I correct myself. When Spoon is healthy we have 2 good MLBs.


Please do not call Marcus Jones, McKenzie, Bannan, or Ryan Denney solid backup players.

Or AVP, Sammy Morris, Charles Johnson, or any of our OL backups besides Price.

We need alot of players in Buffalo at a lot of positions to compete for a SB. I'd love to trade down in EVERY round and pick up 7 extra picks.

[askabry]

Originally posted by Flatlander
With the possible possible exception of Harris, I have seen at least one mock draft with every other one of these players is available at #23. ....

I base my words not on one draft, but on the average of what I see. If you look hard enough, you'll find a mock draft that lists Kelley Washington as the 65th best player. If that's the guy you target, perhaps you should wait until the second.

Point I'm making above is that on the whole, the 23rd pick in the draft does not deliver the same sort of quality as players higher in the draft. The goal is to get ONE player of HIGHER value- if you can afford it, move all the way up to 11 to get a premium player.

[buffan100]

There is nothing to drool over at our need postions from picks 6-15 so I don't see the need to trade up. If we had the chance for a Suggs, Charles Rogers, or dominant OL that would be one thing, but after the top few guys there isn't anything worth giving up a top 50 pick plus the #23 for.

If you are dying for a DT or a WR we could pick 2 of the top 50 if we wanted to and one will probably turn out better than the #11 pick.

[askabry]

I couldn't disagree more, because staying at 23 guarentees you won't see any of the top three four DTs, either of the top two DEs (in a weak group of DEs) and of the top three OLmen.

With a first round pick IN THIS YEAR, I'd want the guy that can make the impact for awhile without a doubt. Tom has his value list, and its better than anything I can guess at.

I'd hope he'll look to move up, to truly maximize the value of trading Peerless Price.

[mac60jus]

I think we staty the same or trade down, we dont' want to give up points.

[kdhammond]

Trade down out of the first round to the top of the 2nd. Nobody worth getting excited about at pick 23. You can get an equivalent player at the top of the 2nd and get an extra 2nd or 3rd in addition.

I don't see a cb worth taking in round 1 past Newman and Trufant and neither will be available at 23.

I don't think that DL Peterson, Kelsay, Long, or Haynes are real true 1st round talents.

No LBs past Bailey worth taking there.

No OL worth a #1 that will be available there (please not another Jeff Faine post...)

I don't think that Doss or Polamolu are first rounders nor do they fit a need.

Maybe Travis Taylor or Bryant Johnson at WR, but they are marginal first rounders, too.

IMHO, after about the top 15, there are a whole bunch of roughly equivalent players up to the top 1/3 of the second round.

[TigerJ]

I'm not really in favor of trading up. Buffalo doesn't really have any critical needs for an immediate starter. I think that there will be good players available at the time Buffalo picks at #23. I wouldn't do it ahead of time but if Buffalo's turn to pick comes along and there are a few players Buffalo likes who might be there a few picks later, I could be persuaded to trade down, but I don't feel like the Bills have to do so.

[ryguy8161]

Originally posted by kdhammond
Trade down out of the first round to the top of the 2nd. Nobody worth getting excited about at pick 23. You can get an equivalent player at the top of the 2nd and get an extra 2nd or 3rd in addition.

I don't see a cb worth taking in round 1 past Newman and Trufant and neither will be available at 23.

I don't think that DL Peterson, Kelsay, Long, or Haynes are real true 1st round talents.

No LBs past Bailey worth taking there.

No OL worth a #1 that will be available there (please not another Jeff Faine post...)

I don't think that Doss or Polamolu are first rounders nor do they fit a need.

Maybe Travis Taylor or Bryant Johnson at WR, but they are marginal first rounders, too.

IMHO, after about the top 15, there are a whole bunch of roughly equivalent players up to the top 1/3 of the second round.

I would agree with this but im stil not convinced that Mathis would drop that far who would actually be my #23 pick.:shy:

[ryguy8161]

Originally posted by kdhammond
Trade down out of the first round to the top of the 2nd. Nobody worth getting excited about at pick 23. You can get an equivalent player at the top of the 2nd and get an extra 2nd or 3rd in addition.

I don't see a cb worth taking in round 1 past Newman and Trufant and neither will be available at 23.

I don't think that DL Peterson, Kelsay, Long, or Haynes are real true 1st round talents.

No LBs past Bailey worth taking there.

No OL worth a #1 that will be available there (please not another Jeff Faine post...)

I don't think that Doss or Polamolu are first rounders nor do they fit a need.

Maybe Travis Taylor or Bryant Johnson at WR, but they are marginal first rounders, too.

IMHO, after about the top 15, there are a whole bunch of roughly equivalent players up to the top 1/3 of the second round.

I would agree with this but im stil not convinced that Mathis would drop that far who would actually be my #23 pick.:shy:

[D-Rocafella]

With the only glaring weakness IMO, at FS, and the fact that we could still get our choice of the top FS's in the 2nd round I say stand pat. Just let the draft work out and take what you feel is the best player available.