Bills will not pick D-line with 23rd pick!

[BuffaloRanger]

This may be going out on a limb but...

The Bills will not pick D-line with their 23rd pick. They will make moves in FA that make it unneccessary. Feel free to disagree. Feel free to call me names.

It could (should) be O-line, FS, or WR. I won't get that specific. I will bring this thread up after the Bills pick and anyone that agrees with me now will have "I told you so" bragging rights.

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[bps21]

Drafting a WR with the first pick would be dumb. Second or Thrid WRs are the EASIEST thing to pick up off FA. Look around...Dyson, Jenkins, Conway...and more after June 1.

Even if we sign a Dlineman in FA like Sam Adams...We're trusting that Marcus Jones will be ready to start at DE?

With the draft as deep as it is at DE and DT...and those being our top needs at this time...I can't see them drafting an O-lineman to play backup when we could get a midseason at latest starter for the Dline.

[BuffaloRanger]

10th best D-lineman vs 3rd best O-lineman? We'll see.

D-line is the obvious pick on 17 March. By draft day things will be different.

[BillsCAfan]

What you forgot is that Pat Williams is in his last year of his contract, and even though we get Sam Adams, Williams could leave after this year, which would put us in the same situation we are in now.

The way I look it is, get Sam Adams to play along side Williams. Then we draft a young stud DT to take pressure of Williams and Adams and to keep them fresh, also allowing the young guy to mature with not too high expectations. If Williams leaves next year, we have a guy coming in to fill in the role...if he doesn't then we have greath depth and a future star when Williams and Adams get into their 30's.

We don't need to get a O-lineman because our line is young and ready to explode into a statment year. The only one that is in question is Ruban Brown, whose play is declining as the years go by. Picking a WR would be dumb because we have Reed who is going to come on big, and extra recievers are easy to find. If we sign a guy like Jenkins, he can play for a while..he's young. Safety I can see....but we can wait till our 2nd round for a safety. Either Doss, Polamalu or Hamlin will be available for our 2nd pick.

[admarc]

With the depth at DT this draft, teams may pass on one in the first, if they think they can get similar quality later. There will undoubtably be runs where they fly off the board, but as long as they stay mostly in a pack we should get a damn good one at 23. There are also a few quality DE's but they aren' as deep and more likely to be scooped up early.

[SquishDaFish]

I would rather see the Bills draft a rookie DT in the first round than to risk signing Sam Adams only to lose Pat Williams in the following year. Pat Williams in my honest opinion is a MUCH better value than Sam Adams. Sign Pat Williams long-term and draft a decent rookie!!!!

[BuffaloRanger]

Decent rookies get you to the playoffs not the superbowl. I don't want the Bills to become Miami (1st rd losers year in and year out). Then there fans can console themselves with the fact that "Hey, at least we made it"

[TigerJ]

Teams don't draft players in round one expecting them to sit on the bench. Who on the line now will sit? Trey Teague? Teams rarely draft centers in round one, and the best centers in this draft rate no better than a second round pick. I'm not so sure there won't be a few more than 2 O-linemen taken ahead of us in round one. Besides, it may well be that the 10th best Dlineman will grade out higher than the third fourth or fifth Olineman. I don't particularly like most of the WR's that might fall to us at 23. The only one with real speed is Kelly Washington, and he's got some flies on him. Free safeties rarely go in round one, and the only one in this crop that rates a first round pick, and then not quite as high as #23 is Rashean Mathis

[SimpleTaSK400]

id rather have 10th best dlineman than 3rd best onlineman in this draft cause he would be better. i dont see why we need another olineman.why do we need one? explain buffaloranger. billscafan has a much better point. dline should be the choice.an olineman wouldnt even start this year so whats the point of drafting one. wait till brown mentions retiring than worry about it. wr? have u been paying attention to the bills roster and their interests? moulds, reed, and either jenkins or dyson seem pretty good to me. fs will be available in 2nd round as there is none worthy of pick 23 in round 1. it should be kenny peterson, chris kelsay or boss bailey.

[Sigma]

The team needs a dline prospect no doubt about that. Who will be available at #23 is still to be determined. If one of the many dline prospects that the Bills are high on are there then TD will go that route. If a highly rated player at another position is available do not be shocked if TD goes that route. With all of the interest on the Dline I forsee us picking something other than that with our 1st pick. Highly rated players at CB, RB will more than likely fall to us because of the huge interest in the Dline this year. The selection of an Olineman is always good as you can never have enough. Rueben is getting up in years and salary cap and Jennings and Sullivan will have contracts coming up. Don't be shocked if a CB is selected with Winfield in a contract year.

[BuffaloRanger]

Originally posted by SimpleTaSK400
id rather have 10th best dlineman than 3rd best onlineman in this draft cause he would be better. i dont see why we need another olineman.why do we need one? explain buffaloranger. billscafan has a much better point. dline should be the choice.an olineman wouldnt even start this year so whats the point of drafting one. wait till brown mentions retiring than worry about it. wr? have u been paying attention to the bills roster and their interests? moulds, reed, and either jenkins or dyson seem pretty good to me. fs will be available in 2nd round as there is none worthy of pick 23 in round 1. it should be kenny peterson, chris kelsay or boss bailey.


Boss being there at 23 is a pipedream!



(I copied this from another thread for you ST400.)

I converted my thinking from Dline to Oline in the first round. But this is all dependant on the Bills signing Adams. Some people have blinders on about drafting Dline because all the experts have said how deep the draft was in that position. If it doesn't make sense though, why force it?

Hear me out...

Bills now have McKenzie, Jones, Schobel, Denney, Irons etc at DE. Drafting a DE in the first would be giving up on Denney, a guy TD traded up to get in the 2nd. Where would a 1st rd DE fit in?

At DT the Bills have Big Pat, Adams (hopefully), Bannan, Edwards, Robertson. A first rd DT could be used for depth here in case of injury, but that's about it.

We need a FS not a SS. A 1st rd FS would have too steep a learning curve to start out. Do we really want a rookie playing with Wire (1 year experience). Bills need to sign a FA here.

Offensive line - Bills have Price backing up both OT positions and Pucillo (7th rdr) backing up both OG positions with no back-up center if Conaty walks. That's nothing!

Faine played Center and can play OG. He gives the Bills max flexability. He could provide depth at OG (Sullivan is a FA after this year) or play center allowing Mike Williams to move to LT and Jennings and Teague to fight it out for RT. He could be a franchise center.

A dominant line is a thing of beauty. O-line has been one place the Bills couldn't improve in FA.

Think about this. It makes sense.

[Range Roamer]

I think we should defenitly go D-line. Years like this don't come along to often where you get this many quality Dline men in the drfat. When we start making a run ,(and a deep run at that) in the play offs, we won't get the opportunity to get a high draft pick. Lets get this taken care of this year.

[finsrclowns]

IMO, it's rather simple. If Adams is signed, you may still go d-line, but the urgency isn't as high and you can wait and see who's left and make a value judgement. If he's not signed, you take the best tackle available at 23. Wide receiver will likely (I hope!) be addressed before the draft in FA. Even if Adams is signed I believe the pick will be a guy with a 5000 calorie a day diet, O or D, there just may be more maneuvering, possibly moving down.

[BuffaloRanger]

"A guy with a 5000 calorie a day diet..." :grin:

[Max997]

Ive stated this on numerous threads TD will pick a CB/S early in this draft and it wouldnt surprise me if it was in the first round

I also think TD will trade down but not out of the first round

[Travis20MVP03]

It's not a matter of giving up on Denney, its a matter of not expecting much from a guy who showed nothing last year. Draft a pass rushing DE in the first round.

[SimpleTaSK400]

so ur banking on the fact that jones, adams if signed, denney, and mckenzie will all have productive years this year? resign conaty and pick up a g in the later rounds. sam and pat both might not be around next year, jones could be a bust, denney could be a bust, irons? who cares about him,the fact that u named him means we need a dlineman in 1st round , mckenzie is another risk like jones, schobel is a pass rusher and too small to play run, chidi is a fa, bannan is ok, edwards was starter on 29th ranked run defense who had a very small sack total. thats our dline. we need a dlineman in the 1st round!! peterson! last year only one olineman missed a game and that was williams who missed 2 and versatile marcus price basically backs up everybody. pucillo also plays both gaurd positions. u dont draft in first round to provide depth and if we draft a olineman thats what he would be, a bench player. peterson would start at end and move to dt on 3rd down. its a simple pick, dline! we had a small sack total last year and out oline is young, and will give up sacks cause its bledsoe, the line gave enough time to give bledsoe 4300 yds and they produced a 1400 yd rusher. i think the dline needs alot more work then oline.

[BuffaloRanger]

You can improve the D-line thru FA. Your boy Peterson won't be there at 23. Any drafted DE won't have an impact until at least mid-season. I'm checking on your only 1 player lost to injury stat.

[TigerJ]

Faine is not a first round calliber player, plain and simple. He's a huge reach. IMO the Bills can get him in round two if they want. Also, IMO Denney, if he had shown anything at all, might be worth gambling on, but he didn't. The Bills need something more certain. I'm not of the opinion that the Bills need to target a big time pass rusher. I think they need some beef at left defensive end, someone who can take on a RT and stop the run. I'm not sure if they can target someone in round 1 to do that or not. There aren't a lot of good, big defensive ends. The Bills might use Kenny Peterson that way, if they wanted. I don't know what they're thinking. As far as Denney goes, if he does something in preseason and earns some playing time, he gives Buffalo some options. He can rotate in. He can provide quality depth. He can be trade bait.

[TigerJ]

I think Kenny Peterson has about a 50/50 chance of being available at #23. I've seen more mocks where he is available than not.

[mrprez2016]

We can get defensive lineman in the 2nd round of the draft. The top 2 will be gone way before the 23rd pick and there won't be much drop off between the 23rd and when we pick in the 2nd. However, there are only a few quality offensive lineman that fit our needs (read: Guard, read more: Jeff Faine). Wide receiver would be a stretch in the first round, Rogers and A. Johnson will be long gone, and i predict so will T. Jacobs. If we are really in need of a WR via the draft that will take out 2nd round pick, but i don't see this happening. We need a veteran WR, via Free Agency that will be accomplished. CB maybe in the 2nd round especially if an Andre Woolfolk is there or a good Safety (Doss, not likely or the kid from USC). Either way, I agree with BuffaloRanger that a DL will not be picked with the 23rd unless somone slips way down and TD is salvating about him.