The legalization of marijuana

[Mr.Chimp]

well canadians, looks like its about to go down. Today is the last the govt has to appeal a ruling striking down the weed laws.

You can just tell the govt wants it legalized, or at least decriminilized considering they are waiting to the very last minute.

oh well, im glad they are finally smartening up.

[thegame]

They should make it legal then start taxing the hell out of it. There would be the GST, PST, and WeedST.

Then in 30 years "angry youths" can start a Canadian "Truth" campaign about how "big marajuana" has been killing them for years!

Fight the power!

[Mr.Chimp]

sure tax it, why not.

it will still be better then the street price.

Which is about 3.5 grams for 30 canadian dollars of the chrizzon

[ticatfan3]

The only reason that they are talking about making it legal is to take everyone's mind off all the scandels,and it worked.

[The Spaz]

Wow now people are going to go over their at a young age to smoke weed and drink beer. Canada rules...lol:)!

[Mr.Chimp]

The only reason that they are talking about making it legal is to take everyone's mind off all the scandels,and it worked.


dont get me wrong, i like joe clark and his accusations against the PM are prolly accurate, but they are talking about it because canadians love to smoke bud.

[sahlensguy]

Originally posted by ticatfan3
The only reason that they are talking about making it legal is to take everyone's mind off all the scandels,and it worked.

If it gets legalized, everyone's minds will be taken off alot more than just a scandel! ;)

[bduff54]

i always wonder what they will do about smiking and driving. when i was younger i smoked weed and drove and it was not a good thing to do.

[mighty peace warrior]

It is quite easy to enforce "smoking and driving" in most places it falls under the same law as drinking and driving. it is actually very similar to test for and enforce. The only difference is at the end of the arrest you pee into a cup instead of blowing into a machine.

[ticatfan3]

There was talk of a machine to blow into,but I don't think they will because if they start checking for smoking and driving there will be a lot of prominent people getting busted in this country.;)

[Mr.Chimp]

hahha....who the hell wants to go out after smoking a fatty anyway.

when i smoke, its tv time, or order a pizza time

[Mouldsie]

:rolleyes:

[sahlensguy]

As has been said; Don't knock it 'til you try it, choirboy.

[Mouldsie]

:rolleyes:

I live in Clarence. 'Nuff said.

[ticatfan3]

What is clarence?

[BogusTrumper]

I don't know what Mouldsie is getting at but it's illegal in Clarence and if he tries anything I'm gonna kick his ass.

[Mouldsie]

Thank you BT... :D I appreciate it. Honestly.



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Clarence is a suburb of Buffalo where 90% of the HS population is a stoner. There is a HUGE drug problem at my school and in this community. Everyone here has lots of money and free time with nothing to do... so, they choose drugs. It's a very sad situation. I go to classes (especially in the AM) and half the students are so out of it. They are stoned out of their minds and don't know what is going on, have short attention spans, and act very very odd (lie making up words and blurting them out inb the middle of class or just acting very srange and energetic... then all of a sudden very slow and whiny when the depressive effects kick in and they don't feel like doing anything). I am more than qualified enough to make up my opinions on drug use.

I also used to live in several poor area's (e.g. Buffalo and parts of Jamestown) where drug use was present. Just not as bad as the white, rich, SUV-lovin', goody 2-shoes town I'm in now, ironically. From my experience... drug use is more common by whites and the rich/suburbans but it is kept a secret and is buried along with their other problems instead of left out in the open and discussed freely. Also, parents in suburban towns seem to more about what their children are into, BUT in reality they probably care less (maybe not <i>care</i> less, but their <b>actions</b> make it seem that way --e.g. not punishing their children for abusive or destructive behavior and in some extreme cases even paying for their childrens' habits or buying them drugs/alcohol or throwing them parties in their house!)
"As long as we keep it underwraps people won't care/notice."
It's all about the image and not about the reality.



So, please don't tell me (or imply) that I shouldn't form any opinions -or that my views don't matter as much b/c I'm not a user :)

I could turn it around and say users have no right to make an opinion b/c of course they want to legalize it! They USE it! ;) But I don't.... b/c that is a silly statement.

[Mr.Chimp]

I almost want to agree with mouldsrocks, i really dont think america is ready for legalization.

Canada is though.

[BironsGirl43]

I don't want them to legalize it.. I think it's wrong

[sahlensguy]

Sounds like the current drug policy is a complete failure in at least Clarence.

'Don't knock it 'til you try it", does not imply you need to be a CURRENT user/abuser to have a more than one sided opinion on the matter.

[Mouldsie]

:rolleyes:

The point is I don't need to try it to make my opinion and have it count. Are you telling me to go smoke a joint so my opinion can hold water?

[Mouldsie]

I am with BG.

[EricStratton]

You and me both Moulds.

[sahlensguy]

Basically, yes.

But more importantly I wouldn't recomend doing so.

[sahlensguy]

BTW MOULDSROCKS, in your opinion, how ARE our current drug laws working in say the Clarence school district? Say on a scale of 1-10?

What would you propose to correct the problem?

[Mouldsie]

Bad..... 1-2

1) The parents need to get involved
2) The school has to get real about it, tehy could bust several hundred people on any given day if they wanted to.
3) The cops have to actually arrest people around here, and not accept bribes, look away etc... we don't want to ruin the future's of these rich white kids so we tend to ignore it all.
4) Education....
5) Rehab....
6) Get some other things to do around here. A LOT of kids smoke pot b/c they are bored or have nothing to do. Rather than light up, I post on the range! lol

[Mr.Chimp]

then you would be in favour of banning alcohol too?

[Player6600]

Statistics have proved that marijuana should not be legalized because it is a gateway drug to I believe about 1% of the population which in estimation is too much. They believe that if you leagalize it then it could raise to as much as 4%. If you think that's a small number just multiply .01 times 300 million.

[BILLSareBACK]

Mouldsrocks, making it legal does not mean that everyone will smoke it. You can go into a liquor store and buy a bottle of 151 proof rum and drink till you cant see no more.But it doesnt mean that everyone is going to do this.Prohibition is a waste of money and you yourself said that everyone is a stoner at school. That means that being illegal has no effect on the availability of pot. What my point is,legalize it and stop wasting money on enforcement. Its not condoning drug use its just practical and makes more sense than the current policy of the U.S.

[BILLSareBACK]

Heres an old movie poster for a film shot during the 1930's about Marijuana. I actually watched this movie and couldnt stop laughing.:D

[Joe Friday]

Drugs, including marijuana will never be legal. Way too much money involved. And yes, a lot of wasted money, time and resources that could be put to better use. I say, at least with pot, legalize it. Take away the black market profit. A lot of the dealers deal pot because it's a high-profit, low-risk profession, at least as the laws concerned. Take away the profit, the risk won't matter.

[Mouldsie]

I would be in favor of decriminalization, never legalization.

[mighty peace warrior]

possesion of less than one ounce here in the people's republic of oregon is a violation..similar to running a stop sign

[sahlensguy]

Originally posted by Player6600
Statistics have proved that marijuana should not be legalized because it is a gateway drug to I believe about 1% of the population which in estimation is too much. They believe that if you leagalize it then it could raise to as much as 4%. If you think that's a small number just multiply .01 times 300 million.

In Holland, where marijuanna has been decriminalized since the 70's, cases of emergency herion and cocaine ODs have declined.

[sahlensguy]

Originally posted by BILLSareBACK
Heres an old movie poster for a film shot during the 1930's about Marijuana. I actually watched this movie and couldnt stop laughing.:D

You laughed, I cried...This movie started the whole marijuanna paranoia to begin with.

[sahlensguy]

Originally posted by MOULDSROCKS
I would be in favor of decriminalization, never legalization.

Hey, it's a start. :D

[sahlensguy]

Originally posted by Joe Friday
Drugs, including marijuana will never be legal.


It may be sooner than you think. There is no more a basis for it being illegal than alcohol or cigarrettes. The only think doing so is the general publics' paranoia and the Law officials feeding off of it for thier own political stature. Voters are begining to take back thier right too. States want the Feds to bud out (pun intended) so to have controll for the own medical marijuanna issues. Feds of course want the control, but the power is shifting. Perhaps in the next decade...

[mighty peace warrior]

I would have no real problem with marijuana being legal to be honest. The stronger drugs should not ever be, because they are not "victimless crimes" as people like to say. Everyday i take reports of people whose identity(credit, bank account info)is stolen to pay for meth. People will do whatever it takes once they are addicted to the strong stuff. I am not sure marijuana is anymore a gateway drug than alcohol.

[sahlensguy]

Also IMO legalization does not mean we 'lost' the war on drugs. Just the opposite, it may be the best weapon against it!

[Player6600]

Originally posted by sahlensguy
In Holland, where marijuanna has been decriminalized since the 70's, cases of emergency herion and cocaine ODs have declined.

I can tell by that quote that you have never been to Amsterdam. Actually they view hard drugs as a serious problem. The gov't has just raised a new campaign against hard drugs. They have a ton of poster boards trying to educate the people. The European culture is also much different.

If you've ever been there you will see on the streets a lot of whacked out people.

[sahlensguy]

Originally posted by Player6600


If you've ever been there you will see on the streets a lot of whacked out people.

Sounds somewhat like New Orleans' French Quarter, aka Bourbon St. Perhaps too many tourists in too small a place, most with the some of the same things in mind to get a clear picture of the effects of thier drug policy?? A revised policy here may immediately help many communities where our current policy has left them to be shamed, not turn them into the freak show of Amsterdam.

Curious to where you found your original stat?

[mighty peace warrior]

Every large city is full of "whacked out people" on the streets.