Top 50 Pro Prospects For The Nfl Draft ’03

[Billsman]

By Bills Insider Frank Coyle
* underclassmen rated Feb 7th after Senior Bowl
1) Carson Palmer - QB - 6'4" 220 lbs. - USC
Finished playing career with an impressive week at Senior Bowl.

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[jjm19672000]

Looking at Sullivan (43) and Scott (49). Intriguing prospects for our #2.

[Pedrorocks458]

Originally posted by jjm19672000
Looking at Sullivan (43) and Scott (49). Intriguing prospects for our #2.

Sullivan is a 1st rounder. You can have Scott.

[Billsman]

?

[TigerJ]

Coyle rates Scott higher than some. I'd like to know why he thinks he's that good vs the opinions of others.

[Billsman]

Here's the link: http://www.billsinsider.com/Top50Prospects.htm

[shawn]

E.J. Henderson at #6 in my opinion is way too high.

[Billsman]

I'm not greedy, I'll take one of these to go please...
I really like Suggs, he's going to be a good one.

5) * Dewayne White - DE - 6’3” 275 lbs. - Louisville
Fast junior defender has the talent to become a top NFL sack artist.

8) * Terrell Suggs - DE - 6’3” 245 lbs. - Arizona St.
Lightning quick pass rusher has the talent to be a difference maker.

9) Jerome McDougle - DE - 6’1” 265 lbs. - Miami (Fla.)
Speedy upfield pass rusher improved his stock at Senior Bowl.

[jjm19672000]

Originally posted by Billsman
I'm not greedy, I'll take one of these to go please...
I really like Suggs, he's going to be a good one.

5) * Dewayne White - DE - 6’3” 275 lbs. - Louisville
Fast junior defender has the talent to become a top NFL sack artist.

8) * Terrell Suggs - DE - 6’3” 245 lbs. - Arizona St.
Lightning quick pass rusher has the talent to be a difference maker.

9) Jerome McDougle - DE - 6’1” 265 lbs. - Miami (Fla.)
Speedy upfield pass rusher improved his stock at Senior Bowl.

Problem is, Billsman, that we have more of a need at DT.

[jjm19672000]

Originally posted by Pedrorocks458
Sullivan is a 1st rounder. You can have Scott.

And haven't any first-rounders ever fallen to round 2?

[D-Rocafella]

I was thinking about Suggs recently. Most people say he will have to get his weight up to 265-275 to be a solid DE. But then I thought a team like the Texans with the third pick can get him and play him as their OLB who in the 3-4 is just like a DE without lineing up face to face with a OT. He would only have to add like 10 or 15 pounds which is more realistic.

The only thing I can think of why this might not work is his speed. I'm not saying he's slow, but I'm not sure how fast he is and if he is fast enough to be an OLB in the 3-4. If he is then if I'm the Texans I grab him without a moments notice.

[Billsman]

Originally posted by jjm19672000
Problem is, Billsman, that we have more of a need at DT.

DT, DE, OLB, S, Defensive coordinator, special teams coach, new turf, mascott, water boy... ;)

[Pedrorocks458]

Originally posted by jjm19672000
And haven't any first-rounders ever fallen to round 2?

Mid 1st rounders do not fall to the middle of round 2 barring injury concerns.

[jimbo53]

i Say go Terry Pierce we need a LB badly and DT's are usaly hit and miis in draft while drafting a linebacker is usaly more safe. WE need a DT more then a LB but a good starting DT has to be picked in first round and good Linebackers can be found in 2nd round or even later.

[Pedrorocks458]

Originally posted by jimbo53
i Say go Terry Pierce we need a LB badly and DT's are usaly hit and miis in draft while drafting a linebacker is usaly more safe. WE need a DT more then a LB but a good starting DT has to be picked in first round and good Linebackers can be found in 2nd round or even later.

Pierce is also a 1st round player. He is probably the second best LB in the draft, if not the best.

[The Beef]

Fred Smoot, IMO when he came out was a lock for somehwer ein between 15-20, then he kept slippin slippin and slippin to the redskisn, at like what the 47th or 51st pick?? I think everyone knew Smoot defeinetly had 1st round written all over him, but teams were worried ebcause he likes to talk?? He's a corner big deal. But the pointbeing, guys slip. Josh Reed slipped last year (not to the middle of the 2nd round) but he still slippe dotu fo teh 1st round.

Also another case, Darren Howard for the Saints. Seeing as how thats the year we got Erik Flowers and could've had Howard with oru 1st round pick, (a late pick that year tho), but still Howard also slipped to the Saints with like th e41st pick I think.

[Pedrorocks458]

While there are some instances of players slipping from the 1st to mid 2nd, it isn't the general rule. Don't bet on players like Pierce and Sullivan to be there.

[TigerJ]

Coyle's one line summary of Ian Scott doesn't exactly explain why he thinks Scott is so good. I did check elsewhere. Couchscout.com says he runs the 40 in under 5 seconds. Apparently he has a problem with asthma. I'd want to know how much of a problem before I'd consider drafting him.

[cherbs7]

Bailey could slip cuz of size concers, and clifton smith from syracuse(not listed) could be perfect for bills.

[jjm19672000]

Originally posted by Pedrorocks458
Mid 1st rounders do not fall to the middle of round 2 barring injury concerns.

This is, of course, you know something Coyle doesn't.

[JoeMama]

Originally posted by jjm19672000
Problem is, Billsman, that we have more of a need at DT.

Actually, we need a DE more than a DT.

People are in love with the concept of tossing a few fat guys in the middle of a line & hoping for immediate results.

Consider that in 2000, when Tennessee's defense was ranked number one in the league, it reached that pinnacle sporting Jason Fisk & Josh Evans as its starters. Those are not household names & both are relatively light for DTs.

Also consider that with speed rushing ends, the 46 was able to click nicely with a ballhawking secondary that honed in on every quarterback mistake under pressure.

The 46 is intended to create havor & force turnovers... but it only works if there is a solid pass rush. If anyone wants Jerry Gray's defense to work, you need a speed rusher who can disrupt the QB.

DE is more important than DT, period.

[jjm19672000]

Originally posted by JoeMama
Actually, we need a DE more than a DT.

People are in love with the concept of tossing a few fat guys in the middle of a line & hoping for immediate results.

Consider that in 2000, when Tennessee's defense was ranked number one in the league, it reached that pinnacle sporting Jason Fisk & Josh Evans as its starters. Those are not household names & both are relatively light for DTs.

Also consider that with speed rushing ends, the 46 was able to click nicely with a ballhawking secondary that honed in on every quarterback mistake under pressure.

The 46 is intended to create havor & force turnovers... but it only works if there is a solid pass rush. If anyone wants Jerry Gray's defense to work, you need a speed rusher who can disrupt the QB.

DE is more important than DT, period.

But we also need some run-stopping presence up the middle, and people to keep Fletcher clean.

[Pedrorocks458]

Originally posted by jjm19672000
This is, of course, you know something Coyle doesn't.

Is Coyle the one who did that list? If he is, then yes I do.

[jjm19672000]

Then why aren't you getting paid for it?

[JoeMama]

Originally posted by jjm19672000
But we also need some run-stopping presence up the middle, and people to keep Fletcher clean.

That's not the way the 46 works.

You don't need fat guys clogging up the middle to open up lanes for the linebackers.

You need defensive ends that can pressure the quarterback into mistakes. Ideally, you want light, fast players to work the field. If we sign players like Spikes, Colvin, or Peterson; the linebackers will be more than adequate with or without a stud next to Pat Williams.

I'm not saying we should settle with mediocrity at the position. But this year we need to focus our limited space on positions that are weaker than defensive tackle. DE, WLB, SLB, & possibly FS.

[Wapiti]

Bailey would be sweet if he fell...

I think a DL of some sort will be there since the draft is so deep at DT and DE.

[Pedrorocks458]

Originally posted by jjm19672000
Then why aren't you getting paid for it?

Where does he work?

[jjm19672000]

Originally posted by JoeMama
That's not the way the 46 works.

You don't need fat guys clogging up the middle to open up lanes for the linebackers.

You need defensive ends that can pressure the quarterback into mistakes. Ideally, you want light, fast players to work the field. If we sign players like Spikes, Colvin, or Peterson; the linebackers will be more than adequate with or without a stud next to Pat Williams.

I'm not saying we should settle with mediocrity at the position. But this year we need to focus our limited space on positions that are weaker than defensive tackle. DE, WLB, SLB, & possibly FS.

I didn't necessarily mean a Gilbert Brown-type player. But there are some big, athletic DTs outr there that are better at playing the run than what we have now.

[Wapiti]

Bailey would be sweet if he fell...

I think a DL of some sort will be there since the draft is so deep at DT and DE.

[jjm19672000]

Originally posted by Pedrorocks458
Where does he work?

I can't remember if he works for a network or magazine, or if he has his own service. All I know is, he gets paid for what he does.

[Pedrorocks458]

Originally posted by jjm19672000
I can't remember if he works for a network or magazine, or if he has his own service. All I know is, he gets paid for what he does.
So does the War Room for TSN, yet they are the laughingstock of the draft community.

[jjm19672000]

Maybe so, but they still get paid, don't they?

[Pedrorocks458]

Originally posted by jjm19672000
Maybe so, but they still get paid, don't they?

That's the whole point, being paid does not mean you're good.

[Mouldsie]

If Price doesn't saty, this kid fits the bill!

45) * Brandon Lloyd - WR - 6’2” 190 lbs. - Illinois
Smooth junior wideout is a playmaker with speed and run after the catch ability

[1968_bills_fan]

I see only two DT as locks in the first round, Kennedy and Joseph. Nearly any of the next 7 DT could fall to the Bills in the second round. They seem to be ranked pretty even by the mock drafts. I hope for Sullivan, D.Robertson or I.Scott will be there fore the Bills. A lot of teams may be looking for speed DE pass rushers, which could push a good DT to the Bills.