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cba fan
October 21st, 2002, 7:42:36 PM
Anyone hear Jimmy Johnson comments on CBS before early games sunday?

He stated Wanny will have a big decision when Fieldler gets back as he expects Lucas to win games since he outplayed Fiedler in preseason. He implied Lucas is better than Fiedler and a winner. He could end up correct, but, wow, talk about putting the cart before the horse. He should have waited a few weeks on those comments.

And I was just starting to take Jimmy serious after he stated(I believe before the season) he thought Bledsoe deal was one of the best ever and it has been working well so far.

nukedawg
October 21st, 2002, 8:09:22 PM
Just one more reason I feel JJ was overrated.

nukedawg
October 21st, 2002, 8:09:51 PM
Originally posted by nukedawg
Just one more reason I feel JJ is overrated.

FrankieA
October 21st, 2002, 8:27:42 PM
Jimmy ought to get back to wearing them gay Hawiian shirts and stay on his boat before George Michaels thinks he sold it.

two4trippn
October 21st, 2002, 9:08:47 PM
CRACK KILLS

TypicalBill
October 22nd, 2002, 4:42:33 AM
Originally posted by cba fan
Anyone hear Jimmy Johnson comments on CBS before early games sunday?

He stated Wanny will have a big decision when Fieldler gets back as he expects Lucas to win games since he outplayed Fiedler in preseason. He implied Lucas is better than Fiedler and a winner. He could end up correct, but, wow, talk about putting the cart before the horse. He should have waited a few weeks on those comments.

And I was just starting to take Jimmy serious after he stated(I believe before the season) he thought Bledsoe deal was one of the best ever and it has been working well so far.

I saw that too, what an idiot

jjm19672000
October 22nd, 2002, 7:11:47 AM
Somewhat disrespectful of our defense, don't you think?

Mouldsie
October 22nd, 2002, 9:38:13 PM
I never liked the guy.....

StKittsDave
October 22nd, 2002, 9:49:10 PM
Another Bills hater Ron Meyer said he sees Lucas and the Dolphins doing "exceptional things against Buffalo."

FrankieA
October 22nd, 2002, 10:01:43 PM
And who has Ron Meyer coached in the last decade?

jjm19672000
October 23rd, 2002, 1:15:09 AM
Ron Meyer, the great football expert?

DannyBoy
October 23rd, 2002, 2:11:31 AM
Jimmy Johnson showed the kind of person he is way back in 1988 when he let his U of Miami thugs, thieves and felons run three quarters of the way across the field prior to a game at the Orange Bowl against Notre Dame and stand there and taunt the Irish players. Real low class. Just like the Flutie Flakes Cereal Box incident a few years ago in the locker room after winning the wild card playoff game against Doug Flutie and the Bills. What a low-life.

JoeMama
October 23rd, 2002, 2:29:27 AM
Oh, give me a break.

Jimmy Johnson was just enjoying his first victory against Flutie after so many years. He stomped on the Flutie Flakes like an excited kid who finally beat a hard video game.

Remeber that hail mary touchdown that cost Johnson's Hurricanes a championship? His loss to Flutie & the Bills earlier in 1998? He had no bad intentions in mind when he stomped on the Flutie Flakes. It was just funny symbolism. He finally beat his historical nemesis.

Then Flutie pulled that bitter, holier than thou crap equating Johnson's actions to "stomping on his autistic child". Reminds me of why I hate Flutie so much. Always looking to take the high road to score brownie points with drooling proletariats & bandwagon fans.

JoeMama
October 23rd, 2002, 2:31:06 AM
What a jerk, he's going to end his career with a 9 game losing streak followed by riding the pine. There is divine justice in the world!

Artstfrmrlyknwnasd25
October 23rd, 2002, 2:32:20 AM
Originally posted by DannyBoy
Jimmy Johnson showed the kind of person he is way back in 1988 when he let his U of Miami thugs, thieves and felons run three quarters of the way across the field prior to a game at the Orange Bowl against Notre Dame and stand there and taunt the Irish players. Real low class. Just like the Flutie Flakes Cereal Box incident a few years ago in the locker room after winning the wild card playoff game against Doug Flutie and the Bills. What a low-life.

Get some perspective. Just because someone talks trash doesn't mean they're a low life. I say ***** Notre Dame, they beat up on weaker teams for years and Jimmy was the 1 who got the blame because he ran up the score on those holier than thou catholics. Anyone who defends Notre Dame and Doug Flutie obviously doesn't know how to judge character, one's a College Football bully who always gets more attention than they deserve. The other is a media saavy me 1st QB. I can't stand Flutie either, I feel bad for his kid but Flutie's a dikc.

"Just one more reason I feel JJ was overrated."

2 SB rings and 1 NCAA championship, if he's overrated there is a reason. Plus the U of M team he left Erickson won another Natl. Title and the Dallas team he left Switzer won another SB. Overrated I think not, he was better than any coach in Bills history.

Oh and by the way, he's on Fox.

JoeMama
October 23rd, 2002, 2:37:34 AM
Jimmy Johnson was pretty great. His biggest hindrance in Miami was... Dan Marino & bad drafts. He wanted so bad to set a power running game into place but it simply wasn't happening with Marino at the helm. That line was in place for one reason... to pass protect. If he stuck around one more year after Marino's retirement, you would have seen JJ style football in no time.

It's too bad some of his final drafts yielded "studs" like John Avery, Yatil Green (injuries), Karim Abdul Jabbar, etc.

Artstfrmrlyknwnasd25
October 23rd, 2002, 2:39:35 AM
Originally posted by DannyBoy
Jimmy Johnson showed the kind of person he is way back in 1988 when he let his U of Miami thugs, thieves and felons run three quarters of the way across the field prior to a game at the Orange Bowl against Notre Dame and stand there and taunt the Irish players. Real low class. Just like the Flutie Flakes Cereal Box incident a few years ago in the locker room after winning the wild card playoff game against Doug Flutie and the Bills. What a low-life.

that when Jimmy got to U of M the graduation rate was about 30% but when he left it was 75%. Again screw the Irish they had beaten teams in the past by scores as bad as 92-0 and 142-0. F them I hate that school made up of hypocrites. They were a bully who got their asses handed to them by Miami on a pretty regular basis but the U of M put them in their place.

Again F the Fighting Irish.

JoeMama
October 23rd, 2002, 3:07:55 AM
I get the impression someone on this thread isn't a Fighting Irish fan.

Artstfrmrlyknwnasd25
October 23rd, 2002, 3:45:24 AM
Yeah they suck and they always get preferential treatment by the Bowl Committees because they mean big money.

It's this whole Knute Rockne,"win 1 for the Gipper", Rudy bs. The Irish beat up on other teams for years but as soon as the Canes beat them 58-7 or whatever the score was they were complaining about it being run up. I find it hard to hate College teams since they're all kids but I hate the Irish. I hope they play the Canes in the Fiesta so Miami can run up the score again.

Again F the Fighting Irish.

JoeMama
October 23rd, 2002, 3:49:41 AM
I don't follow college football too closely, but I also get sick of their storied little team. Although, I have to admit. I do like Tryone Willingham.

jjm19672000
October 23rd, 2002, 6:15:46 AM
He'll be in the NFL one day.

DannyBoy
October 25th, 2002, 10:00:55 PM
This wasn't a forum for Notre Dame bashing or Flutie bashing. I was using it to give a couple of examples on the character (or lack thereof) of JJ. A Coach (both college and pro) should show more class than JJ ever did. He may know football but he is a Pr**k. What kind of stat is 25% graduation before and 75% after JJ. It probably means he had the school lower the standards. You wouldn't see Notre Dame do that. Your Notre Dame bashing brothers in the NCAA had to come up with some ridiculous incident (a rich horny old broad that likes young football players) and then lay a recruitment violation on the school. What a joke. The two or three players should have been disciplined, not the school. As far as Flutie, he will start to stink if he keeps messing in his pants. Still doesn't make a case for good ol' Jimmy boy and his classless actions. Oh yeah, he wrote a lovely letter of apology didn't he? Funny how it is always the low-lifes that put Notre Dame down for being above the rest of the pack. Granted there are a few Notre Dame alumni, who use less than ethical methods to advance the football program, but they are few and the school administration “nips it in the bud” when they see it. Your hatred of the school and its Catholic roots are your only argument against Notre Dame.

bigdog
October 25th, 2002, 10:40:24 PM
I don't disagree too often with you joemama but this time i beg to differ, jimmy johnson is a tool. I wouldn't stop to piss on his head if his hair was on fire.

Artstfrmrlyknwnasd25
October 26th, 2002, 2:19:07 AM
Originally posted by DannyBoy
This wasn't a forum for Notre Dame bashing or Flutie bashing. I was using it to give a couple of examples on the character (or lack thereof) of JJ. A Coach (both college and pro) should show more class than JJ ever did. He may know football but he is a Pr**k. What kind of stat is 25% graduation before and 75% after JJ. It probably means he had the school lower the standards. You wouldn't see Notre Dame do that. Your Notre Dame bashing brothers in the NCAA had to come up with some ridiculous incident (a rich horny old broad that likes young football players) and then lay a recruitment violation on the school. What a joke. The two or three players should have been disciplined, not the school. As far as Flutie, he will start to stink if he keeps messing in his pants. Still doesn't make a case for good ol' Jimmy boy and his classless actions. Oh yeah, he wrote a lovely letter of apology didn't he? Funny how it is always the low-lifes that put Notre Dame down for being above the rest of the pack. Granted there are a few Notre Dame alumni, who use less than ethical methods to advance the football program, but they are few and the school administration “nips it in the bud” when they see it. Your hatred of the school and its Catholic roots are your only argument against Notre Dame.

What you don't know could fill encyclopedias. Jimmy Johnson has a lot of respect for Notre Dame. If you read his book he states how he respects that school. It's just that he was the one who handed them their ass so he was made into some kind of villian by ND because they couldn't handle it. As for you saying "they just lowered their standards" why don't you try dealing in facts instead of things you make up. Maybe if ND didn't have "Catholics vs. Convicts" shirts made up there wouldn't have been so much tension on the field.

I can tell by your name that your a ND defender. Still doesn't excuse the fact that they are treated differently than every other school and get bowl bids they have no business getting. I don't know about the "rich horny old broad" nor do I care, fine ND runs a clean program, still doesn't excuse the fact that excluding 88 they haven't won crap or done much of anything for the last 20 years. When players violate NCAA rules the school pays for it. Your whining about the NCAA's punishment of ND is just sour grapes. Most infractions in College sports are done by the boosters and not the school(Chris Webber case) but only ND shouldn't be punished the way other schools are. Yeah right. Just so I get this straight, anyone who puts down ND is a "low-life" Just a little judgemental Dannyboy.

As for Flutie Flakes, he stomped on them, give me a box I'll piss in them. Anyone who equates his son with a box of cereal has his priorities messed up anyway. "That box sygnifies my son", Please what a bunch of savvy PR crap from the #1 media manipulator in the NFL.

Wow a ND and Bills fan who doesn't like Jimmy Johnson. Gee I wonder how that could happen. Maybe because he handed you your ass on a silver platter almost everytime your teams faced him.

I also could care less about their catholic roots and my hatred stems from them getting things they don't deserve. Why are 18-21 yr old kids from ND anymore deserving of major bowl bids than other 18-21 yr. old kids from other schools. You always hear announcers say "because they're Notre Dame" screw that. My hatred of ND is based on the fact that they are treated like royalty(and I hate the Royal family too)people who get things they don't deserve by either the accident of birth or "because they're Notre Dame" and that means more money. At least my hatred is based on unfair treatment, yours is because your a sore loser who can't handle the fact that 1 man has kept your beloved teams from accomplishing the goals you hoped they would.

And before you start calling people *****s, get some perspective. Doug Flutie is a *****. He stabs teammates in the back when talking to the media. At least Jimmy's honest about it, if he doesn't like you he'll tell you like he did Jerry Jones.

"Oh Danny Boy the pipes, the pipes, are calling"

DannyBoy
October 28th, 2002, 1:04:48 AM
You're just a Notre Dame hater. Fine. But don't try and tell me you're putting out any facts to support your bias. You have said nothing of any substance except you have a hatred for Notre Dame. The incident that happened in 1988 was long before the Catholics vs. the Convict shirts (I cringe at such arrogance). You read Jimmy’s book? Wow. Guess that’s one I won’t be getting around to. So Jimmy Johnson respects Notre Dame. Big deal. He showed his lack of class in that instance and many many more. Respect has nothing to do with class. I wasn't defending Flutie; I was using that incident as another example of JJ and his lack of class. By the way, I have respect for JJ as a football coach; he has proven to be a winner in almost every coaching circumstance he has been in. He probably would have done better with the fins if others in that organization had gotten out of his way. I just cannot stomach him as someone in the public limelight. He is a horse's ass.

P.S. You are pretty naive if you think administrators don't know about the unilateral pay-offs by university alumni at many schools. There are soooo many instances where this has come out in the investigations. E-nuff said on this topic.

Artstfrmrlyknwnasd25
October 28th, 2002, 1:08:30 PM
88 was the Catholics vs. Convicts t-shirt game. At least that's when it got the most publicity.

I'll ask you again, does Notre Dame get preferrential treatment by Bowl committees because they represent more revenue and TV watchers for a Bowl game?