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BogusTrumper
August 9th, 2002, 12:08:57 PM
Wounded Party Ponders, Should It Be Gore in 2004?
By ADAM NAGOURNEY

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/09/politics/09GORE.html?todaysheadlines

Democratic Party leaders said that Al Gore has several
significant obstacles to overcome if he wants his party's
nomination for the 2004 presidential election.

Sir
August 9th, 2002, 12:13:55 PM
He's finished as a political figure.

Stealth01
August 9th, 2002, 2:43:38 PM
Significant Obstacle: He's less exciting than cold oatmeal. At least Bill was a charismatic speaker and had fairly normal views. I disagreed with him, but understood his reasoning. Gore's "Save the trees at all costs" crap, and trying to SUE his way into the presidency, whether justified or not, hurt his image.

Oh, and he's boring. At least a wet noodle is edible.

Halbert
August 12th, 2002, 12:05:09 AM
Gore reminded me of a try-too-hard grade school kid at times. I ended up voting for him simply because he wasn't Junior but man was he aggravating. Somebody tell me WHY he had to repeatedly embellish stories about himself? He has a strong resume, there's no reason to exaggerate like he did - and he didn't stop until late into the campaign. Mind boggling. And his pick a personality routine in the debates would have been comical if we weren't talking about the presidency on the line. He clearly knew far more than Junior so all he needed to do was not be annoying and he couldn't even get that done. Those debates should have been easy wins for him and he turned them into a Saturday Night Live routine.

Too bad because I think his actual qualifications were strong and may have settled well into the job. The guy who wins usually ends up being much more presidential that you think he would be. At first I thought Junior was growing into the job but it appears he may have already reached his limit. Gore appeared to have more upside, assuming he could stop tripping over his own mouth. But I think he's facing long odds to make a run again.

It's just too bad McCain didn't win the nomination. He would have been an interesting and productive president, I think.

jjm19672000
August 29th, 2002, 9:00:44 AM
It will either be Gore or Gephart.

Stealth01
August 29th, 2002, 9:06:43 AM
I agree on McCain. I SO wanted to vote for him this last election. My wife is from Arizona and has met him. She's a pretty skeptical person, but said she was impressed with him. A lot.

I like his stance on many things, but I think he needs to branch out and stop banking his whole campaign on finance reform.

Voltron
August 29th, 2002, 9:16:17 AM
Gore would have been a mess after 9/11. I think Bush handled it better than Gore could have even wished he could. I myself have gotten a little peeved at Bush lately (he is not a Jr. by the way) but I still would vote for him again in a second. Gore is a tax and spend fool. The last thing I want is taxes going up more! It's bad enough the Dems almost control both the houses of congress. I live in NY and we have a carpet bagger as a senator the last thing I want is a wuss in the Whitehouse

Stealth01
August 29th, 2002, 9:24:13 AM
I shudder to think of the nation under Gore's "leadership" on 9-11. He'd probably be good for some parts of the economy, but bold, decisive action is not his forte.

JoeMama
August 29th, 2002, 10:09:19 AM
Gore is a robot and a lousy candidate, but he's still the best the Democrats have to offer. Who else is there? Hillary? Daschle? Gephart? Lame.

My prediction: Bush will be re-elected in a landslide and then Jeb will serve two terms. Love it or hate it, there will be 16 years of the Bush's.

Stealth01
August 29th, 2002, 10:58:24 AM
Gore is to the Dems what Dole was to the Repubs. Neither one showed any personality prior to the election, and Americans won't vote for robots. Too bad Dole kept that sense of humor of his to himself prior to the election, too. Imagine if he'd been doing viagara commercials during the election...Ok, that would have been inappropriate. But imagine if he'd made that admission and shown some personality. He might have had a chance.

BogusTrumper
August 29th, 2002, 11:08:48 AM
Personally, I can do without the Brittany Spears commercial.

Stealth01
August 29th, 2002, 11:15:00 AM
I thought that one was hilarious. Personally, I think Tittany Spears is a skank, but I got the point of the thing. Funny.

I like his one on the beach with his "little blue buddy" too.

Voltron
August 29th, 2002, 11:54:45 AM
But Brittney is so wholesome! :)

I think she is hot but man she needs a mute button. Well I guess that is true for MOST but not all women :D

Oh how about her saying she is saving herself for Marriage. What!? She owned a house with one of the Nsync guys! Come on we are not dumb Britt.

shiva2999
August 29th, 2002, 12:47:21 PM
"Gore would have been a mess after 9/11." - voltron

"I shudder to think of the nation under Gore's "leadership" on 9-11." - stealth

This is just mean spirited speculation that's part and parcel of the right's attempt to get people to respect Dubya for something, anything. And there are more people than just me who suspect that if Al Gore were President, 9-11 wouldn't have happened.

Somehow, everyone takes it as an axiom that George has done a great job with the "War" on terrorism.

This great leader...

1. Ignored the work the Clinton administration did on Al Qaeda and ignored their advice (see Time magazine).

2. Ignored the Aug 6 securiy memo and briefing (hey, he was on VACATION!)

3. Sat and read a story about goats to a kindergarten class for 25 minutes after he was told about the secong plane flying into the WTC.

4. Got into his plane and while thousands of Americans immediately rushed to help the victims of the attacks and hightailed it around the country until Dick told him it was safe to come back.

5. Fortunately had plans for the Patriot Act, Homeland Security and the War in Afghanistan ready to go, just in case (was that prescient, or what!)

6. Has never worried about the fact Cipro was handed out to White House staffers on the morning of 9-11 (just a little early on that one). Oh, BTW, how is the Anthrax investigation coming along?

7. Almost immediately referred to the War on Terrorism as a "crusade".

8. Still hasn't come close to catching Osama and Mullah Omar (you do want to catch them, don't you George?). But we do have Jose Padilla and John Walker Lindh where they can't do anymore harm, thank goodness.

9. Bombed the snot out of Afghanistan to make it safe for Karzai and Unocal.

10. Captured a bunch of raggedy assed towel heads and shoved them into cages in Gitmo.

11. Has steadfastly refused an independant commission into 9-11 and has threatened senators and congressmen with lie detectors.

12. Has continued to suck up to the Saudis.

13. And has managed to alienate virtually every other country in the world with his bullsh*t plan to invade Iraq.

Great job George! You're truly the leader of the free world!

honey
August 29th, 2002, 1:02:06 PM
I don't think Shiva likes our president! (understatement of the year!)

Crinoline
August 29th, 2002, 1:22:08 PM
> This is just mean spirited speculation that's part and parcel of the right's attempt to get people to respect Dubya for something, anything. And there are more people than just me who suspect that if Al Gore were President, 9-11 wouldn't have happened.

So your saying only dem/libs are allowed to 'speculate'?

Voltron
August 29th, 2002, 1:45:59 PM
by shiva 4. Got into his plane and while thousands of Americans immediately rushed to help the victims of the attacks and hightailed it around the country until Dick told him it was safe to come back.

That is what the secret service told him to do. It is called keeping the gov't running. Who is to say that plane on it's way to the pentagon was not ment for the capitol or the White house (the one that crashed in PA was)? They were keeping the president safe so he could make the decisions that no one else had the power to make. If this happened in Canada your Prime minister would be doing the same thing!

jjm19672000
August 30th, 2002, 3:33:58 AM
Yeah, let's send the president into the area of at least 3 terrorist targets the same day of the attacks. Typical liberal mentality.

honey
August 30th, 2002, 3:47:00 AM
If I understand this, and I may not, but the Clinton administration had the opportunity to nab Osama and didn't do it. Since they (Clinton Admin) could have done it, why didn't they? (I'm thinking "didn't want to deal with it, too horny in the Oval Office") How can you blame GW for that, Shiva? Maybe, if Clinton would have gotten him, 9/11 wouldn't have happened. (I'm only bringing Clinton up because Shiva did. No disrespect for past presidents intended - altho I had absolutely no respect for that man who 'didn't have sex with that woman').